UEFA NEEDS TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT ENGLISH FANS
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England fans have been clashing with Wales fans too ahead of the game this afternoon.metalalloy wrote:Bbc is reporting that police is clashing with English fans in Lille tonight. Threw tear ga at them. Not sure how they also escaped suspension...
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If UEFA throw out all the teams with hooligan fans, how many teams left?
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pajimoh wrote:If UEFA throw out all the teams with hooligan fans, how many teams left?
I am not in support of throwing out teams but these fans, or whatever they are, must be dealt with. These uncivilized behaviors are just as annoying as hell. I am sure UEFA is by now really pissed with their antics. No one needs these riff raffs that polute the game.
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Imagine if this was the African cup of nations and what these sanctimonious pricks would have been saying about them
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The propaganda war is getting interesting, unlike most of the football being played at Euro 2016 itself
UK government fears Russian football hooligans had Kremlin links
UK government: we suspect many of those who attacked England supporters are in Russia’s uniformed services, fighting Putin’s ‘hybrid warfare’
https://www.theguardian.com/football/20 ... imir-putin
Senior government officials fear the violence unleashed by Russian hooligans at Euro 2016 was sanctioned by the Kremlin and are investigating links with Vladimir Putin’s regime.
It is understood that a significant number of those involved in savage and highly coordinated attacks on England fans and others in Marseille and Lille have been identified as being in the “uniformed services” in Russia.
The theory is that the sanctioning of hooliganism by Putin is a continuation of what has been described as Russia’s campaign of “hybrid warfare”. Whitehall experts fear the tactic is a ploy to demonstrate Russian strength while building on a narrative inside the country that the rest of the world is lining up against it.
Following the violence in Marseille, fake Twitter accounts were reportedly set up to spread the view that Russian fans had been provoked. A senior Russian parliamentarian tweeted, “Well done lads, keep it up!”
Two England fans, Andrew Bache, 51, from Portsmouth, and Stewart Gray, from Hinckley, Leicestershire, were left in comas fighting for their lives after being attacked with hammers and iron bars by Russian hooligans.
Uefa, the European football authority, threatened to throw Russia out of the competition should there be a repeat of the scenes inside the Stade Vélodrome in Marseille, where their fans tried to storm the English end of the stadium at the end of the England-Russia match.
A Whitehall source told the Observer that social media had been scrutinised to discover the backgrounds of those involved. “It is difficult to prove this was sanctioned by the Kremlin but we can see that a number of them are in the uniformed services in Russia,” the source said. “It looks like a continuation of the hybrid warfare deployed by Putin.”
The head of Britain’s Euro 2016 policing operation, Cheshire’s assistant chief constable Mark Roberts, said the attacks were the most serious and coordinated he had seen in 10 years specialising in football violence. He told how UK police spotters saw some 150 Russia fans “tooling up” with gum shields, fingerless martial arts gloves and bandanas.
A notorious leader of a Russian supporters’ group, Alexander Shprygin, was expelled from France after he was stopped on a bus travelling to Lille from the south of France after the trouble. He was among 43 fans detained. Shprygin, who was accompanying the official Russian delegation at the championships, was pictured alongside Putin at a football fan’s funeral in 2010.
Moscow has denounced the detaining of Russian fans and accused the French authorities’ actions as “further stoking of anti-Russian sentiments”.
On Friday Putin laughed off fan violence at the Euros and urged local authorities in France to treat supporters from all countries equally. He said the violence was a disgrace, but added: “I don’t know how 200 fans could hurt several thousand Englishmen.”
He also said he was willing to reach out to Europe to mend relations following the Ukraine crisis but insisted the west was responsible for the bad blood: “European business wants and is ready to work with our country. European politicians need to reach out to business, to show wisdom, far-sightedness and flexibility,” he said. “We remember how all this started. Russia did not initiate today’s collapse. We hold no grudge and are willing to reach out to our European partners, but obviously this can’t be a one-sided game.”
Uefa has fined Russia €150,000 (£119,000) and imposed a suspended disqualification as punishment for its supporters’ part in the mayhem in Marseille.
UK government fears Russian football hooligans had Kremlin links
UK government: we suspect many of those who attacked England supporters are in Russia’s uniformed services, fighting Putin’s ‘hybrid warfare’
https://www.theguardian.com/football/20 ... imir-putin
Senior government officials fear the violence unleashed by Russian hooligans at Euro 2016 was sanctioned by the Kremlin and are investigating links with Vladimir Putin’s regime.
It is understood that a significant number of those involved in savage and highly coordinated attacks on England fans and others in Marseille and Lille have been identified as being in the “uniformed services” in Russia.
The theory is that the sanctioning of hooliganism by Putin is a continuation of what has been described as Russia’s campaign of “hybrid warfare”. Whitehall experts fear the tactic is a ploy to demonstrate Russian strength while building on a narrative inside the country that the rest of the world is lining up against it.
Following the violence in Marseille, fake Twitter accounts were reportedly set up to spread the view that Russian fans had been provoked. A senior Russian parliamentarian tweeted, “Well done lads, keep it up!”
Two England fans, Andrew Bache, 51, from Portsmouth, and Stewart Gray, from Hinckley, Leicestershire, were left in comas fighting for their lives after being attacked with hammers and iron bars by Russian hooligans.
Uefa, the European football authority, threatened to throw Russia out of the competition should there be a repeat of the scenes inside the Stade Vélodrome in Marseille, where their fans tried to storm the English end of the stadium at the end of the England-Russia match.
A Whitehall source told the Observer that social media had been scrutinised to discover the backgrounds of those involved. “It is difficult to prove this was sanctioned by the Kremlin but we can see that a number of them are in the uniformed services in Russia,” the source said. “It looks like a continuation of the hybrid warfare deployed by Putin.”
The head of Britain’s Euro 2016 policing operation, Cheshire’s assistant chief constable Mark Roberts, said the attacks were the most serious and coordinated he had seen in 10 years specialising in football violence. He told how UK police spotters saw some 150 Russia fans “tooling up” with gum shields, fingerless martial arts gloves and bandanas.
A notorious leader of a Russian supporters’ group, Alexander Shprygin, was expelled from France after he was stopped on a bus travelling to Lille from the south of France after the trouble. He was among 43 fans detained. Shprygin, who was accompanying the official Russian delegation at the championships, was pictured alongside Putin at a football fan’s funeral in 2010.
Moscow has denounced the detaining of Russian fans and accused the French authorities’ actions as “further stoking of anti-Russian sentiments”.
On Friday Putin laughed off fan violence at the Euros and urged local authorities in France to treat supporters from all countries equally. He said the violence was a disgrace, but added: “I don’t know how 200 fans could hurt several thousand Englishmen.”
He also said he was willing to reach out to Europe to mend relations following the Ukraine crisis but insisted the west was responsible for the bad blood: “European business wants and is ready to work with our country. European politicians need to reach out to business, to show wisdom, far-sightedness and flexibility,” he said. “We remember how all this started. Russia did not initiate today’s collapse. We hold no grudge and are willing to reach out to our European partners, but obviously this can’t be a one-sided game.”
Uefa has fined Russia €150,000 (£119,000) and imposed a suspended disqualification as punishment for its supporters’ part in the mayhem in Marseille.
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The English are shameless........... , they should go home and lick their wounds.Vincent. wrote:The propaganda war is getting interesting, unlike most of the football being played at Euro 2016 itself
UK government fears Russian football hooligans had Kremlin links
UK government: we suspect many of those who attacked England supporters are in Russia’s uniformed services, fighting Putin’s ‘hybrid warfare’
https://www.theguardian.com/football/20 ... imir-putin
Senior government officials fear the violence unleashed by Russian hooligans at Euro 2016 was sanctioned by the Kremlin and are investigating links with Vladimir Putin’s regime.
It is understood that a significant number of those involved in savage and highly coordinated attacks on England fans and others in Marseille and Lille have been identified as being in the “uniformed services” in Russia.
The theory is that the sanctioning of hooliganism by Putin is a continuation of what has been described as Russia’s campaign of “hybrid warfare”. Whitehall experts fear the tactic is a ploy to demonstrate Russian strength while building on a narrative inside the country that the rest of the world is lining up against it.
Following the violence in Marseille, fake Twitter accounts were reportedly set up to spread the view that Russian fans had been provoked. A senior Russian parliamentarian tweeted, “Well done lads, keep it up!”
Two England fans, Andrew Bache, 51, from Portsmouth, and Stewart Gray, from Hinckley, Leicestershire, were left in comas fighting for their lives after being attacked with hammers and iron bars by Russian hooligans.
Uefa, the European football authority, threatened to throw Russia out of the competition should there be a repeat of the scenes inside the Stade Vélodrome in Marseille, where their fans tried to storm the English end of the stadium at the end of the England-Russia match.
A Whitehall source told the Observer that social media had been scrutinised to discover the backgrounds of those involved. “It is difficult to prove this was sanctioned by the Kremlin but we can see that a number of them are in the uniformed services in Russia,” the source said. “It looks like a continuation of the hybrid warfare deployed by Putin.”
The head of Britain’s Euro 2016 policing operation, Cheshire’s assistant chief constable Mark Roberts, said the attacks were the most serious and coordinated he had seen in 10 years specialising in football violence. He told how UK police spotters saw some 150 Russia fans “tooling up” with gum shields, fingerless martial arts gloves and bandanas.
A notorious leader of a Russian supporters’ group, Alexander Shprygin, was expelled from France after he was stopped on a bus travelling to Lille from the south of France after the trouble. He was among 43 fans detained. Shprygin, who was accompanying the official Russian delegation at the championships, was pictured alongside Putin at a football fan’s funeral in 2010.
Moscow has denounced the detaining of Russian fans and accused the French authorities’ actions as “further stoking of anti-Russian sentiments”.
On Friday Putin laughed off fan violence at the Euros and urged local authorities in France to treat supporters from all countries equally. He said the violence was a disgrace, but added: “I don’t know how 200 fans could hurt several thousand Englishmen.”
He also said he was willing to reach out to Europe to mend relations following the Ukraine crisis but insisted the west was responsible for the bad blood: “European business wants and is ready to work with our country. European politicians need to reach out to business, to show wisdom, far-sightedness and flexibility,” he said. “We remember how all this started. Russia did not initiate today’s collapse. We hold no grudge and are willing to reach out to our European partners, but obviously this can’t be a one-sided game.”
Uefa has fined Russia €150,000 (£119,000) and imposed a suspended disqualification as punishment for its supporters’ part in the mayhem in Marseille.
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All too often people dismiss things out of hand because it's Russia and the west. The possibility that it could be true is there. No MP in their right mind, in any country would be proud of hooliganism of its citizens abroad yet in Russia it is condoned.zee wrote:The English are shameless........... , they should go home and lick their wounds.Vincent. wrote:The propaganda war is getting interesting, unlike most of the football being played at Euro 2016 itself
UK government fears Russian football hooligans had Kremlin links
UK government: we suspect many of those who attacked England supporters are in Russia’s uniformed services, fighting Putin’s ‘hybrid warfare’
https://www.theguardian.com/football/20 ... imir-putin
Senior government officials fear the violence unleashed by Russian hooligans at Euro 2016 was sanctioned by the Kremlin and are investigating links with Vladimir Putin’s regime.
It is understood that a significant number of those involved in savage and highly coordinated attacks on England fans and others in Marseille and Lille have been identified as being in the “uniformed services” in Russia.
The theory is that the sanctioning of hooliganism by Putin is a continuation of what has been described as Russia’s campaign of “hybrid warfare”. Whitehall experts fear the tactic is a ploy to demonstrate Russian strength while building on a narrative inside the country that the rest of the world is lining up against it.
Following the violence in Marseille, fake Twitter accounts were reportedly set up to spread the view that Russian fans had been provoked. A senior Russian parliamentarian tweeted, “Well done lads, keep it up!”
Two England fans, Andrew Bache, 51, from Portsmouth, and Stewart Gray, from Hinckley, Leicestershire, were left in comas fighting for their lives after being attacked with hammers and iron bars by Russian hooligans.
Uefa, the European football authority, threatened to throw Russia out of the competition should there be a repeat of the scenes inside the Stade Vélodrome in Marseille, where their fans tried to storm the English end of the stadium at the end of the England-Russia match.
A Whitehall source told the Observer that social media had been scrutinised to discover the backgrounds of those involved. “It is difficult to prove this was sanctioned by the Kremlin but we can see that a number of them are in the uniformed services in Russia,” the source said. “It looks like a continuation of the hybrid warfare deployed by Putin.”
The head of Britain’s Euro 2016 policing operation, Cheshire’s assistant chief constable Mark Roberts, said the attacks were the most serious and coordinated he had seen in 10 years specialising in football violence. He told how UK police spotters saw some 150 Russia fans “tooling up” with gum shields, fingerless martial arts gloves and bandanas.
A notorious leader of a Russian supporters’ group, Alexander Shprygin, was expelled from France after he was stopped on a bus travelling to Lille from the south of France after the trouble. He was among 43 fans detained. Shprygin, who was accompanying the official Russian delegation at the championships, was pictured alongside Putin at a football fan’s funeral in 2010.
Moscow has denounced the detaining of Russian fans and accused the French authorities’ actions as “further stoking of anti-Russian sentiments”.
On Friday Putin laughed off fan violence at the Euros and urged local authorities in France to treat supporters from all countries equally. He said the violence was a disgrace, but added: “I don’t know how 200 fans could hurt several thousand Englishmen.”
He also said he was willing to reach out to Europe to mend relations following the Ukraine crisis but insisted the west was responsible for the bad blood: “European business wants and is ready to work with our country. European politicians need to reach out to business, to show wisdom, far-sightedness and flexibility,” he said. “We remember how all this started. Russia did not initiate today’s collapse. We hold no grudge and are willing to reach out to our European partners, but obviously this can’t be a one-sided game.”
Uefa has fined Russia €150,000 (£119,000) and imposed a suspended disqualification as punishment for its supporters’ part in the mayhem in Marseille.
If they are proud of it then they could gave planned it.
For so long there was no Russian participation in Ukraine, well....
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All this crying 'cos they whop a couple of english thugs. ........next time the english weaklings should concentrate on smashing windows & cars and they will be spared of this grieve.pajimoh wrote:All too often people dismiss things out of hand because it's Russia and the west. The possibility that it could be true is there. No MP in their right mind, in any country would be proud of hooliganism of its citizens abroad yet in Russia it is condoned.zee wrote:The English are shameless........... , they should go home and lick their wounds.Vincent. wrote:The propaganda war is getting interesting, unlike most of the football being played at Euro 2016 itself
UK government fears Russian football hooligans had Kremlin links
UK government: we suspect many of those who attacked England supporters are in Russia’s uniformed services, fighting Putin’s ‘hybrid warfare’
https://www.theguardian.com/football/20 ... imir-putin
Senior government officials fear the violence unleashed by Russian hooligans at Euro 2016 was sanctioned by the Kremlin and are investigating links with Vladimir Putin’s regime.
It is understood that a significant number of those involved in savage and highly coordinated attacks on England fans and others in Marseille and Lille have been identified as being in the “uniformed services” in Russia.
The theory is that the sanctioning of hooliganism by Putin is a continuation of what has been described as Russia’s campaign of “hybrid warfare”. Whitehall experts fear the tactic is a ploy to demonstrate Russian strength while building on a narrative inside the country that the rest of the world is lining up against it.
Following the violence in Marseille, fake Twitter accounts were reportedly set up to spread the view that Russian fans had been provoked. A senior Russian parliamentarian tweeted, “Well done lads, keep it up!”
Two England fans, Andrew Bache, 51, from Portsmouth, and Stewart Gray, from Hinckley, Leicestershire, were left in comas fighting for their lives after being attacked with hammers and iron bars by Russian hooligans.
Uefa, the European football authority, threatened to throw Russia out of the competition should there be a repeat of the scenes inside the Stade Vélodrome in Marseille, where their fans tried to storm the English end of the stadium at the end of the England-Russia match.
A Whitehall source told the Observer that social media had been scrutinised to discover the backgrounds of those involved. “It is difficult to prove this was sanctioned by the Kremlin but we can see that a number of them are in the uniformed services in Russia,” the source said. “It looks like a continuation of the hybrid warfare deployed by Putin.”
The head of Britain’s Euro 2016 policing operation, Cheshire’s assistant chief constable Mark Roberts, said the attacks were the most serious and coordinated he had seen in 10 years specialising in football violence. He told how UK police spotters saw some 150 Russia fans “tooling up” with gum shields, fingerless martial arts gloves and bandanas.
A notorious leader of a Russian supporters’ group, Alexander Shprygin, was expelled from France after he was stopped on a bus travelling to Lille from the south of France after the trouble. He was among 43 fans detained. Shprygin, who was accompanying the official Russian delegation at the championships, was pictured alongside Putin at a football fan’s funeral in 2010.
Moscow has denounced the detaining of Russian fans and accused the French authorities’ actions as “further stoking of anti-Russian sentiments”.
On Friday Putin laughed off fan violence at the Euros and urged local authorities in France to treat supporters from all countries equally. He said the violence was a disgrace, but added: “I don’t know how 200 fans could hurt several thousand Englishmen.”
He also said he was willing to reach out to Europe to mend relations following the Ukraine crisis but insisted the west was responsible for the bad blood: “European business wants and is ready to work with our country. European politicians need to reach out to business, to show wisdom, far-sightedness and flexibility,” he said. “We remember how all this started. Russia did not initiate today’s collapse. We hold no grudge and are willing to reach out to our European partners, but obviously this can’t be a one-sided game.”
Uefa has fined Russia €150,000 (£119,000) and imposed a suspended disqualification as punishment for its supporters’ part in the mayhem in Marseille.
If they are proud of it then they could gave planned it.
For so long there was no Russian participation in Ukraine, well....
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It does not make sense. Why would Putin send Russian thugs to beat up English thugs in France? Why English thugs? Why not Ukrainian, French, German, Croatian, Spanish thugs?pajimoh wrote:All too often people dismiss things out of hand because it's Russia and the west. The possibility that it could be true is there. No MP in their right mind, in any country would be proud of hooliganism of its citizens abroad yet in Russia it is condoned.zee wrote:The English are shameless........... , they should go home and lick their wounds.Vincent. wrote:The propaganda war is getting interesting, unlike most of the football being played at Euro 2016 itself
UK government fears Russian football hooligans had Kremlin links
UK government: we suspect many of those who attacked England supporters are in Russia’s uniformed services, fighting Putin’s ‘hybrid warfare’
https://www.theguardian.com/football/20 ... imir-putin
Senior government officials fear the violence unleashed by Russian hooligans at Euro 2016 was sanctioned by the Kremlin and are investigating links with Vladimir Putin’s regime.
It is understood that a significant number of those involved in savage and highly coordinated attacks on England fans and others in Marseille and Lille have been identified as being in the “uniformed services” in Russia.
The theory is that the sanctioning of hooliganism by Putin is a continuation of what has been described as Russia’s campaign of “hybrid warfare”. Whitehall experts fear the tactic is a ploy to demonstrate Russian strength while building on a narrative inside the country that the rest of the world is lining up against it.
Following the violence in Marseille, fake Twitter accounts were reportedly set up to spread the view that Russian fans had been provoked. A senior Russian parliamentarian tweeted, “Well done lads, keep it up!”
Two England fans, Andrew Bache, 51, from Portsmouth, and Stewart Gray, from Hinckley, Leicestershire, were left in comas fighting for their lives after being attacked with hammers and iron bars by Russian hooligans.
Uefa, the European football authority, threatened to throw Russia out of the competition should there be a repeat of the scenes inside the Stade Vélodrome in Marseille, where their fans tried to storm the English end of the stadium at the end of the England-Russia match.
A Whitehall source told the Observer that social media had been scrutinised to discover the backgrounds of those involved. “It is difficult to prove this was sanctioned by the Kremlin but we can see that a number of them are in the uniformed services in Russia,” the source said. “It looks like a continuation of the hybrid warfare deployed by Putin.”
The head of Britain’s Euro 2016 policing operation, Cheshire’s assistant chief constable Mark Roberts, said the attacks were the most serious and coordinated he had seen in 10 years specialising in football violence. He told how UK police spotters saw some 150 Russia fans “tooling up” with gum shields, fingerless martial arts gloves and bandanas.
A notorious leader of a Russian supporters’ group, Alexander Shprygin, was expelled from France after he was stopped on a bus travelling to Lille from the south of France after the trouble. He was among 43 fans detained. Shprygin, who was accompanying the official Russian delegation at the championships, was pictured alongside Putin at a football fan’s funeral in 2010.
Moscow has denounced the detaining of Russian fans and accused the French authorities’ actions as “further stoking of anti-Russian sentiments”.
On Friday Putin laughed off fan violence at the Euros and urged local authorities in France to treat supporters from all countries equally. He said the violence was a disgrace, but added: “I don’t know how 200 fans could hurt several thousand Englishmen.”
He also said he was willing to reach out to Europe to mend relations following the Ukraine crisis but insisted the west was responsible for the bad blood: “European business wants and is ready to work with our country. European politicians need to reach out to business, to show wisdom, far-sightedness and flexibility,” he said. “We remember how all this started. Russia did not initiate today’s collapse. We hold no grudge and are willing to reach out to our European partners, but obviously this can’t be a one-sided game.”
Uefa has fined Russia €150,000 (£119,000) and imposed a suspended disqualification as punishment for its supporters’ part in the mayhem in Marseille.
If they are proud of it then they could gave planned it.
For so long there was no Russian participation in Ukraine, well....
The MP in question is the Russian equivalent of an extreme right-wing MP for UKIP in Britain or the Front National in France. The official Russian authorities actually condemned the violence (those facts are omitted from the report).
Have you seen a single picture or video of Russian troops, tanks and warplanes invading Ukraine or fighting there after two years of invasion claims? How come we have still not seen visual evidence of this invasion? Not even satellite photos... Anyway, this is not related to footballFor so long there was no Russian participation in Ukraine, well....
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please forgive. I do not want to get into this argument. I should never have replied. When it comes to Russia and the rest of the world some views are entrenched.Vincent. wrote:It does not make sense. Why would Putin send Russian thugs to beat up English thugs in France? Why English thugs? Why not Ukrainian, French, German, Croatian, Spanish thugs?pajimoh wrote:All too often people dismiss things out of hand because it's Russia and the west. The possibility that it could be true is there. No MP in their right mind, in any country would be proud of hooliganism of its citizens abroad yet in Russia it is condoned.zee wrote:The English are shameless........... , they should go home and lick their wounds.Vincent. wrote:The propaganda war is getting interesting, unlike most of the football being played at Euro 2016 itself
UK government fears Russian football hooligans had Kremlin links
UK government: we suspect many of those who attacked England supporters are in Russia’s uniformed services, fighting Putin’s ‘hybrid warfare’
https://www.theguardian.com/football/20 ... imir-putin
Senior government officials fear the violence unleashed by Russian hooligans at Euro 2016 was sanctioned by the Kremlin and are investigating links with Vladimir Putin’s regime.
It is understood that a significant number of those involved in savage and highly coordinated attacks on England fans and others in Marseille and Lille have been identified as being in the “uniformed services” in Russia.
The theory is that the sanctioning of hooliganism by Putin is a continuation of what has been described as Russia’s campaign of “hybrid warfare”. Whitehall experts fear the tactic is a ploy to demonstrate Russian strength while building on a narrative inside the country that the rest of the world is lining up against it.
Following the violence in Marseille, fake Twitter accounts were reportedly set up to spread the view that Russian fans had been provoked. A senior Russian parliamentarian tweeted, “Well done lads, keep it up!”
Two England fans, Andrew Bache, 51, from Portsmouth, and Stewart Gray, from Hinckley, Leicestershire, were left in comas fighting for their lives after being attacked with hammers and iron bars by Russian hooligans.
Uefa, the European football authority, threatened to throw Russia out of the competition should there be a repeat of the scenes inside the Stade Vélodrome in Marseille, where their fans tried to storm the English end of the stadium at the end of the England-Russia match.
A Whitehall source told the Observer that social media had been scrutinised to discover the backgrounds of those involved. “It is difficult to prove this was sanctioned by the Kremlin but we can see that a number of them are in the uniformed services in Russia,” the source said. “It looks like a continuation of the hybrid warfare deployed by Putin.”
The head of Britain’s Euro 2016 policing operation, Cheshire’s assistant chief constable Mark Roberts, said the attacks were the most serious and coordinated he had seen in 10 years specialising in football violence. He told how UK police spotters saw some 150 Russia fans “tooling up” with gum shields, fingerless martial arts gloves and bandanas.
A notorious leader of a Russian supporters’ group, Alexander Shprygin, was expelled from France after he was stopped on a bus travelling to Lille from the south of France after the trouble. He was among 43 fans detained. Shprygin, who was accompanying the official Russian delegation at the championships, was pictured alongside Putin at a football fan’s funeral in 2010.
Moscow has denounced the detaining of Russian fans and accused the French authorities’ actions as “further stoking of anti-Russian sentiments”.
On Friday Putin laughed off fan violence at the Euros and urged local authorities in France to treat supporters from all countries equally. He said the violence was a disgrace, but added: “I don’t know how 200 fans could hurt several thousand Englishmen.”
He also said he was willing to reach out to Europe to mend relations following the Ukraine crisis but insisted the west was responsible for the bad blood: “European business wants and is ready to work with our country. European politicians need to reach out to business, to show wisdom, far-sightedness and flexibility,” he said. “We remember how all this started. Russia did not initiate today’s collapse. We hold no grudge and are willing to reach out to our European partners, but obviously this can’t be a one-sided game.”
Uefa has fined Russia €150,000 (£119,000) and imposed a suspended disqualification as punishment for its supporters’ part in the mayhem in Marseille.
If they are proud of it then they could gave planned it.
For so long there was no Russian participation in Ukraine, well....
The MP in question is the Russian equivalent of an extreme right-wing MP for UKIP in Britain or the Front National in France. The official Russian authorities actually condemned the violence (those facts are omitted from the report).Have you seen a single picture or video of Russian troops, tanks and warplanes invading Ukraine or fighting there after two years of invasion claims? How come we have still not seen visual evidence of this invasion? Not even satellite photos... Anyway, this is not related to footballFor so long there was no Russian participation in Ukraine, well....
I'm not saying the English are on point but cautioning against off the cuff dismissal.
Lets be honest, even if Russia nuke half the world and the fall out kills everyone in Africa some would still hail Putin as a hero.
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No need to apologize. You did nothing wrong. I respect your opinion.pajimoh wrote:please forgive. I do not want to get into this argument. I should never have replied. When it comes to Russia and the rest of the world some views are entrenched.Vincent. wrote:It does not make sense. Why would Putin send Russian thugs to beat up English thugs in France? Why English thugs? Why not Ukrainian, French, German, Croatian, Spanish thugs?pajimoh wrote:All too often people dismiss things out of hand because it's Russia and the west. The possibility that it could be true is there. No MP in their right mind, in any country would be proud of hooliganism of its citizens abroad yet in Russia it is condoned.zee wrote:The English are shameless........... , they should go home and lick their wounds.Vincent. wrote:The propaganda war is getting interesting, unlike most of the football being played at Euro 2016 itself
UK government fears Russian football hooligans had Kremlin links
UK government: we suspect many of those who attacked England supporters are in Russia’s uniformed services, fighting Putin’s ‘hybrid warfare’
https://www.theguardian.com/football/20 ... imir-putin
Senior government officials fear the violence unleashed by Russian hooligans at Euro 2016 was sanctioned by the Kremlin and are investigating links with Vladimir Putin’s regime.
It is understood that a significant number of those involved in savage and highly coordinated attacks on England fans and others in Marseille and Lille have been identified as being in the “uniformed services” in Russia.
The theory is that the sanctioning of hooliganism by Putin is a continuation of what has been described as Russia’s campaign of “hybrid warfare”. Whitehall experts fear the tactic is a ploy to demonstrate Russian strength while building on a narrative inside the country that the rest of the world is lining up against it.
Following the violence in Marseille, fake Twitter accounts were reportedly set up to spread the view that Russian fans had been provoked. A senior Russian parliamentarian tweeted, “Well done lads, keep it up!”
Two England fans, Andrew Bache, 51, from Portsmouth, and Stewart Gray, from Hinckley, Leicestershire, were left in comas fighting for their lives after being attacked with hammers and iron bars by Russian hooligans.
Uefa, the European football authority, threatened to throw Russia out of the competition should there be a repeat of the scenes inside the Stade Vélodrome in Marseille, where their fans tried to storm the English end of the stadium at the end of the England-Russia match.
A Whitehall source told the Observer that social media had been scrutinised to discover the backgrounds of those involved. “It is difficult to prove this was sanctioned by the Kremlin but we can see that a number of them are in the uniformed services in Russia,” the source said. “It looks like a continuation of the hybrid warfare deployed by Putin.”
The head of Britain’s Euro 2016 policing operation, Cheshire’s assistant chief constable Mark Roberts, said the attacks were the most serious and coordinated he had seen in 10 years specialising in football violence. He told how UK police spotters saw some 150 Russia fans “tooling up” with gum shields, fingerless martial arts gloves and bandanas.
A notorious leader of a Russian supporters’ group, Alexander Shprygin, was expelled from France after he was stopped on a bus travelling to Lille from the south of France after the trouble. He was among 43 fans detained. Shprygin, who was accompanying the official Russian delegation at the championships, was pictured alongside Putin at a football fan’s funeral in 2010.
Moscow has denounced the detaining of Russian fans and accused the French authorities’ actions as “further stoking of anti-Russian sentiments”.
On Friday Putin laughed off fan violence at the Euros and urged local authorities in France to treat supporters from all countries equally. He said the violence was a disgrace, but added: “I don’t know how 200 fans could hurt several thousand Englishmen.”
He also said he was willing to reach out to Europe to mend relations following the Ukraine crisis but insisted the west was responsible for the bad blood: “European business wants and is ready to work with our country. European politicians need to reach out to business, to show wisdom, far-sightedness and flexibility,” he said. “We remember how all this started. Russia did not initiate today’s collapse. We hold no grudge and are willing to reach out to our European partners, but obviously this can’t be a one-sided game.”
Uefa has fined Russia €150,000 (£119,000) and imposed a suspended disqualification as punishment for its supporters’ part in the mayhem in Marseille.
If they are proud of it then they could gave planned it.
For so long there was no Russian participation in Ukraine, well....
The MP in question is the Russian equivalent of an extreme right-wing MP for UKIP in Britain or the Front National in France. The official Russian authorities actually condemned the violence (those facts are omitted from the report).Have you seen a single picture or video of Russian troops, tanks and warplanes invading Ukraine or fighting there after two years of invasion claims? How come we have still not seen visual evidence of this invasion? Not even satellite photos... Anyway, this is not related to footballFor so long there was no Russian participation in Ukraine, well....
I'm not saying the English are on point but cautioning against off the cuff dismissal.
Lets be honest, even if Russia nuke half the world and the fall out kills everyone in Africa some would still hail Putin as a hero.
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not a nice way to speak of txj, not cool at allanikulapo wrote:Imagine if this was the African cup of nations and what these sanctimonious pricks would have been saying about them
Bloody hypocrites
however his silence on a non-AFCON issue is worrying
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Germany and Ukraine too???
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Some here love Putin more than their own Motherspajimoh wrote:please forgive. I do not want to get into this argument. I should never have replied. When it comes to Russia and the rest of the world some views are entrenched.Vincent. wrote:It does not make sense. Why would Putin send Russian thugs to beat up English thugs in France? Why English thugs? Why not Ukrainian, French, German, Croatian, Spanish thugs?pajimoh wrote:All too often people dismiss things out of hand because it's Russia and the west. The possibility that it could be true is there. No MP in their right mind, in any country would be proud of hooliganism of its citizens abroad yet in Russia it is condoned.zee wrote:The English are shameless........... , they should go home and lick their wounds.Vincent. wrote:The propaganda war is getting interesting, unlike most of the football being played at Euro 2016 itself
UK government fears Russian football hooligans had Kremlin links
UK government: we suspect many of those who attacked England supporters are in Russia’s uniformed services, fighting Putin’s ‘hybrid warfare’
https://www.theguardian.com/football/20 ... imir-putin
Senior government officials fear the violence unleashed by Russian hooligans at Euro 2016 was sanctioned by the Kremlin and are investigating links with Vladimir Putin’s regime.
It is understood that a significant number of those involved in savage and highly coordinated attacks on England fans and others in Marseille and Lille have been identified as being in the “uniformed services” in Russia.
The theory is that the sanctioning of hooliganism by Putin is a continuation of what has been described as Russia’s campaign of “hybrid warfare”. Whitehall experts fear the tactic is a ploy to demonstrate Russian strength while building on a narrative inside the country that the rest of the world is lining up against it.
Following the violence in Marseille, fake Twitter accounts were reportedly set up to spread the view that Russian fans had been provoked. A senior Russian parliamentarian tweeted, “Well done lads, keep it up!”
Two England fans, Andrew Bache, 51, from Portsmouth, and Stewart Gray, from Hinckley, Leicestershire, were left in comas fighting for their lives after being attacked with hammers and iron bars by Russian hooligans.
Uefa, the European football authority, threatened to throw Russia out of the competition should there be a repeat of the scenes inside the Stade Vélodrome in Marseille, where their fans tried to storm the English end of the stadium at the end of the England-Russia match.
A Whitehall source told the Observer that social media had been scrutinised to discover the backgrounds of those involved. “It is difficult to prove this was sanctioned by the Kremlin but we can see that a number of them are in the uniformed services in Russia,” the source said. “It looks like a continuation of the hybrid warfare deployed by Putin.”
The head of Britain’s Euro 2016 policing operation, Cheshire’s assistant chief constable Mark Roberts, said the attacks were the most serious and coordinated he had seen in 10 years specialising in football violence. He told how UK police spotters saw some 150 Russia fans “tooling up” with gum shields, fingerless martial arts gloves and bandanas.
A notorious leader of a Russian supporters’ group, Alexander Shprygin, was expelled from France after he was stopped on a bus travelling to Lille from the south of France after the trouble. He was among 43 fans detained. Shprygin, who was accompanying the official Russian delegation at the championships, was pictured alongside Putin at a football fan’s funeral in 2010.
Moscow has denounced the detaining of Russian fans and accused the French authorities’ actions as “further stoking of anti-Russian sentiments”.
On Friday Putin laughed off fan violence at the Euros and urged local authorities in France to treat supporters from all countries equally. He said the violence was a disgrace, but added: “I don’t know how 200 fans could hurt several thousand Englishmen.”
He also said he was willing to reach out to Europe to mend relations following the Ukraine crisis but insisted the west was responsible for the bad blood: “European business wants and is ready to work with our country. European politicians need to reach out to business, to show wisdom, far-sightedness and flexibility,” he said. “We remember how all this started. Russia did not initiate today’s collapse. We hold no grudge and are willing to reach out to our European partners, but obviously this can’t be a one-sided game.”
Uefa has fined Russia €150,000 (£119,000) and imposed a suspended disqualification as punishment for its supporters’ part in the mayhem in Marseille.
If they are proud of it then they could gave planned it.
For so long there was no Russian participation in Ukraine, well....
The MP in question is the Russian equivalent of an extreme right-wing MP for UKIP in Britain or the Front National in France. The official Russian authorities actually condemned the violence (those facts are omitted from the report).Have you seen a single picture or video of Russian troops, tanks and warplanes invading Ukraine or fighting there after two years of invasion claims? How come we have still not seen visual evidence of this invasion? Not even satellite photos... Anyway, this is not related to footballFor so long there was no Russian participation in Ukraine, well....
I'm not saying the English are on point but cautioning against off the cuff dismissal.
Lets be honest, even if Russia nuke half the world and the fall out kills everyone in Africa some would still hail Putin as a hero.
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Got to love those savages.tfco wrote:Germany and Ukraine too???
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pajimoh wrote:If UEFA throw out all the teams with hooligan fans, how many teams left?
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Kai!! how did i ignore this thread?
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This is how to know cowards! They thought they will just show up, act like savages and nothing will happen. Look at the *kindpeople* running around begging for sympathy!Vincent. wrote:The propaganda war is getting interesting, unlike most of the football being played at Euro 2016 itself
UK government fears Russian football hooligans had Kremlin links
UK government: we suspect many of those who attacked England supporters are in Russia’s uniformed services, fighting Putin’s ‘hybrid warfare’
https://www.theguardian.com/football/20 ... imir-putin
Senior government officials fear the violence unleashed by Russian hooligans at Euro 2016 was sanctioned by the Kremlin and are investigating links with Vladimir Putin’s regime.
It is understood that a significant number of those involved in savage and highly coordinated attacks on England fans and others in Marseille and Lille have been identified as being in the “uniformed services” in Russia.
The theory is that the sanctioning of hooliganism by Putin is a continuation of what has been described as Russia’s campaign of “hybrid warfare”. Whitehall experts fear the tactic is a ploy to demonstrate Russian strength while building on a narrative inside the country that the rest of the world is lining up against it.
Following the violence in Marseille, fake Twitter accounts were reportedly set up to spread the view that Russian fans had been provoked. A senior Russian parliamentarian tweeted, “Well done lads, keep it up!”
Two England fans, Andrew Bache, 51, from Portsmouth, and Stewart Gray, from Hinckley, Leicestershire, were left in comas fighting for their lives after being attacked with hammers and iron bars by Russian hooligans.
Uefa, the European football authority, threatened to throw Russia out of the competition should there be a repeat of the scenes inside the Stade Vélodrome in Marseille, where their fans tried to storm the English end of the stadium at the end of the England-Russia match.
A Whitehall source told the Observer that social media had been scrutinised to discover the backgrounds of those involved. “It is difficult to prove this was sanctioned by the Kremlin but we can see that a number of them are in the uniformed services in Russia,” the source said. “It looks like a continuation of the hybrid warfare deployed by Putin.”
The head of Britain’s Euro 2016 policing operation, Cheshire’s assistant chief constable Mark Roberts, said the attacks were the most serious and coordinated he had seen in 10 years specialising in football violence. He told how UK police spotters saw some 150 Russia fans “tooling up” with gum shields, fingerless martial arts gloves and bandanas.
A notorious leader of a Russian supporters’ group, Alexander Shprygin, was expelled from France after he was stopped on a bus travelling to Lille from the south of France after the trouble. He was among 43 fans detained. Shprygin, who was accompanying the official Russian delegation at the championships, was pictured alongside Putin at a football fan’s funeral in 2010.
Moscow has denounced the detaining of Russian fans and accused the French authorities’ actions as “further stoking of anti-Russian sentiments”.
On Friday Putin laughed off fan violence at the Euros and urged local authorities in France to treat supporters from all countries equally. He said the violence was a disgrace, but added: “I don’t know how 200 fans could hurt several thousand Englishmen.”
He also said he was willing to reach out to Europe to mend relations following the Ukraine crisis but insisted the west was responsible for the bad blood: “European business wants and is ready to work with our country. European politicians need to reach out to business, to show wisdom, far-sightedness and flexibility,” he said. “We remember how all this started. Russia did not initiate today’s collapse. We hold no grudge and are willing to reach out to our European partners, but obviously this can’t be a one-sided game.”
Uefa has fined Russia €150,000 (£119,000) and imposed a suspended disqualification as punishment for its supporters’ part in the mayhem in Marseille.
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zee wrote:All this crying 'cos they whop a couple of english thugs. ........next time the english weaklings should concentrate on smashing windows & cars and they will be spared of this grieve.pajimoh wrote:All too often people dismiss things out of hand because it's Russia and the west. The possibility that it could be true is there. No MP in their right mind, in any country would be proud of hooliganism of its citizens abroad yet in Russia it is condoned.zee wrote:The English are shameless........... , they should go home and lick their wounds.Vincent. wrote:The propaganda war is getting interesting, unlike most of the football being played at Euro 2016 itself
UK government fears Russian football hooligans had Kremlin links
UK government: we suspect many of those who attacked England supporters are in Russia’s uniformed services, fighting Putin’s ‘hybrid warfare’
https://www.theguardian.com/football/20 ... imir-putin
Senior government officials fear the violence unleashed by Russian hooligans at Euro 2016 was sanctioned by the Kremlin and are investigating links with Vladimir Putin’s regime.
It is understood that a significant number of those involved in savage and highly coordinated attacks on England fans and others in Marseille and Lille have been identified as being in the “uniformed services” in Russia.
The theory is that the sanctioning of hooliganism by Putin is a continuation of what has been described as Russia’s campaign of “hybrid warfare”. Whitehall experts fear the tactic is a ploy to demonstrate Russian strength while building on a narrative inside the country that the rest of the world is lining up against it.
Following the violence in Marseille, fake Twitter accounts were reportedly set up to spread the view that Russian fans had been provoked. A senior Russian parliamentarian tweeted, “Well done lads, keep it up!”
Two England fans, Andrew Bache, 51, from Portsmouth, and Stewart Gray, from Hinckley, Leicestershire, were left in comas fighting for their lives after being attacked with hammers and iron bars by Russian hooligans.
Uefa, the European football authority, threatened to throw Russia out of the competition should there be a repeat of the scenes inside the Stade Vélodrome in Marseille, where their fans tried to storm the English end of the stadium at the end of the England-Russia match.
A Whitehall source told the Observer that social media had been scrutinised to discover the backgrounds of those involved. “It is difficult to prove this was sanctioned by the Kremlin but we can see that a number of them are in the uniformed services in Russia,” the source said. “It looks like a continuation of the hybrid warfare deployed by Putin.”
The head of Britain’s Euro 2016 policing operation, Cheshire’s assistant chief constable Mark Roberts, said the attacks were the most serious and coordinated he had seen in 10 years specialising in football violence. He told how UK police spotters saw some 150 Russia fans “tooling up” with gum shields, fingerless martial arts gloves and bandanas.
A notorious leader of a Russian supporters’ group, Alexander Shprygin, was expelled from France after he was stopped on a bus travelling to Lille from the south of France after the trouble. He was among 43 fans detained. Shprygin, who was accompanying the official Russian delegation at the championships, was pictured alongside Putin at a football fan’s funeral in 2010.
Moscow has denounced the detaining of Russian fans and accused the French authorities’ actions as “further stoking of anti-Russian sentiments”.
On Friday Putin laughed off fan violence at the Euros and urged local authorities in France to treat supporters from all countries equally. He said the violence was a disgrace, but added: “I don’t know how 200 fans could hurt several thousand Englishmen.”
He also said he was willing to reach out to Europe to mend relations following the Ukraine crisis but insisted the west was responsible for the bad blood: “European business wants and is ready to work with our country. European politicians need to reach out to business, to show wisdom, far-sightedness and flexibility,” he said. “We remember how all this started. Russia did not initiate today’s collapse. We hold no grudge and are willing to reach out to our European partners, but obviously this can’t be a one-sided game.”
Uefa has fined Russia €150,000 (£119,000) and imposed a suspended disqualification as punishment for its supporters’ part in the mayhem in Marseille.
If they are proud of it then they could gave planned it.
For so long there was no Russian participation in Ukraine, well....
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What do you expect?tfco wrote:not a nice way to speak of txj, not cool at allanikulapo wrote:Imagine if this was the African cup of nations and what these sanctimonious pricks would have been saying about them
Bloody hypocrites
however his silence on a non-AFCON issue is worrying
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