Nigeria 2-1 South Africa : FT(Samu, Ekong...VAR)
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Re: Nigeria 2-1 South Africa : FT(Samu, Ekong...VAR)
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Unfortunately, he adds very little offensively...Lolly wrote:Awaziem really played well too.
But his FIRST job is to defend, and that he did well today. Kudos!
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Re: Nigeria 2-1 South Africa : FT(Samu, Ekong...VAR)
txj wrote:Don't get too caught up on positions. Look at the role too. He does play close to Ighalo sometimes...Schillachi wrote:oloye wrote:Yes he did a great job on the guy, but it became frustrating watching him do all the work and no end product. I was almost losing my mind watching him get to vantage position only to cross to no one... In essence he was doing nothing, the ball was ending in a less dangerous area from a dangerous position.marko wrote:I thought Musa ran the south African player ragged and cant understand why he was subbed
A coach has to do something to stop the madness, before everyone lose their minds from expectations that was never there. Haba almost tore all my hair out. He did well, but his final decisions were poor.
How about not starting Musa on the wings..
His delivery is far too inconsistent. BUT...
There is also not enough effort on the other side of the ball to get up there for his delivery...
They need to work together in training. Ighalo can't seem to read what Musa will do. Ighalo should actually be in box 6 when Musa hits box 18. Brown Ideye was good at that. Check Ideye'sgoal against Mali in AFCON 2013 semi-final.
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Like I said before, for a stand in player, he has done what was required of him. I think we will be seeing more of him on that wingLolly wrote:Awaziem really played well too.
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Re: Nigeria 2-1 South Africa : FT(Samu, Ekong...VAR)
Oga Oloye, one question: Was it Musa’s final delivery that was poor or Ighalo and Iwobi sleeping and not reading the pass? The first few chances, Musa pulled it to the far post, Ighalo was hanging back at the D and Iwobi and Chukwueze were nowhere to be found. Later, Musa started pulling the ball to the D, and Ighalo started attacking the box.oloye wrote:Yes he did a great job on the guy, but it became frustrating watching him do all the work and no end product. I was almost losing my mind watching him get to vantage position only to cross to no one... In essence he was doing nothing, the ball was ending in a less dangerous area from a dangerous position.marko wrote:I thought Musa ran the south African player ragged and cant understand why he was subbed
A coach has to do something to stop the madness, before everyone lose their minds from expectations that was never there. Haba almost tore all my hair out. He did well, but his final decisions were poor.
Me I will blame Rohr for his personnel choices and not working with his strikers. Tbh, I think Osimhen or Onyekuru or Musa himself, looking at the way they attack the box, would have scored two or three goals from Musa’s crosses today.
Can you imagine, if Drogba or Aguero were in Ighalo position today? It would have been tap-in all day my brother. So, its not fair to keep blaming Musa, he’s actually more cerebral than most of his teammates. Ighalo need to stop ball watching, attack the box and allow Iwobi to arrive at the D.
Re: Nigeria 2-1 South Africa : FT(Samu, Ekong...VAR)
Absolutely. Ighalo was not on the same wavelength. That is where 2 upfront makes a different; one goes short, the other goes long. If Musa's pass misses the first, the second gets it.marko wrote:I thought the front players were not on the same wave lenghth with Musa, they should have anticipated his runs and put themselves in position to receive, yes Musa final ball was not good but there was one or 2 balls Ighalo could have gotoloye wrote:Yes he did a great job on the guy, but it became frustrating watching him do all the work and no end product. I was almost losing my mind watching him get to vantage position only to cross to no one... In essence he was doing nothing, the ball was ending in a less dangerous area from a dangerous position.marko wrote:I thought Musa ran the south African player ragged and cant understand why he was subbed
A coach has to do something to stop the madness, before everyone lose their minds from expectations that was never there. Haba almost tore all my hair out. He did well, but his final decisions were poor.
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I have to disagree. He is very versatile. Adds more to the offense that Shehu. Crosses and shoots well. Excellent ball control and is a really good CDGotti wrote:Unfortunately, he adds very little offensively...Lolly wrote:Awaziem really played well too.
But his FIRST job is to defend, and that he did well today. Kudos!
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Kpom. I don't know what the coach sees in Ighalo. The guy was a total passenger today. In fact he was worse because he was responsible for the SA goal not being offside.oscar52 wrote:Lucky win. If the 2nd goal had not happen when it did, SA looked the ore likely to score. Bringing on Simon was strange when Kalu, Onyekuru, and Osimhen were there. The sub that should have been made was not Musa but Ighalo who had done almost nothing in the game. The coach dey one kine.
Anyway, we won. Congrats to the boys! On to the semis--Algeria or Ivory Coast.
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Phew men I came out of the game with 12 minutes to play at 1-1. So Naija win? up Naija!!!!!
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Goldleaf wrote:txj wrote:Don't get too caught up on positions. Look at the role too. He does play close to Ighalo sometimes...Schillachi wrote:oloye wrote:Yes he did a great job on the guy, but it became frustrating watching him do all the work and no end product. I was almost losing my mind watching him get to vantage position only to cross to no one... In essence he was doing nothing, the ball was ending in a less dangerous area from a dangerous position.marko wrote:I thought Musa ran the south African player ragged and cant understand why he was subbed
A coach has to do something to stop the madness, before everyone lose their minds from expectations that was never there. Haba almost tore all my hair out. He did well, but his final decisions were poor.
How about not starting Musa on the wings..
His delivery is far too inconsistent. BUT...
There is also not enough effort on the other side of the ball to get up there for his delivery...
They need to work together in training. Ighalo can't seem to read what Musa will do. Ighalo should actually be in box 6 when Musa hits box 18. Brown Ideye was good at that. Check Ideye'sgoal against Mali in AFCON 2013 semi-final.
Thank you my brother...you read my mind as I just noted that below your post. Folks have still not changed on this forum with their emotive and insulting attitude on match days.
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Re: Nigeria 2-1 South Africa : FT(Samu, Ekong...VAR)
Agree. Would like to see Osimhen. Ighalo should have had a couple of tap ins today. Totally ball watched on a couple of chances especially a particular Chukwueze breakaway.Curve whiz wrote:Oga Oloye, one question: Was it Musa’s final delivery that was poor or Ighalo and Iwobi sleeping and not reading the pass? The first few chances, Musa pulled it to the far post, Ighalo was hanging back at the D and Iwobi and Chukwueze were nowhere to be found. Later, Musa started pulling the ball to the D, and Ighalo started attacking the box.oloye wrote:Yes he did a great job on the guy, but it became frustrating watching him do all the work and no end product. I was almost losing my mind watching him get to vantage position only to cross to no one... In essence he was doing nothing, the ball was ending in a less dangerous area from a dangerous position.marko wrote:I thought Musa ran the south African player ragged and cant understand why he was subbed
A coach has to do something to stop the madness, before everyone lose their minds from expectations that was never there. Haba almost tore all my hair out. He did well, but his final decisions were poor.
Me I will blame Rohr for his personnel choices and not working with his strikers. Tbh, I think Osimhen or Onyekuru or Musa himself, looking at the way they attack the box, would have scored two or three goals from Musa’s crosses today.
Can you imagine, if Drogba or Aguero were in Ighalo position today? It would have been tap-in all day my brother. So, its not fair to keep blaming Musa, he’s actually more cerebral than most of his teammates. Ighalo need to stop ball watching, attack the box and allow Iwobi to arrive at the D.
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Rohr, please next time you want to sub Musa out, sub Ighalo and have Musa play centrally.
You will then have 3 players who are interchangeable.
Musa defensively was awesome today. But his offense and final ball today was suspect.
The 3 man midfield of Iwobi-Ndidi-Etebo were fantastic....
Unto recovery for the Semi-final game.
You will then have 3 players who are interchangeable.
Musa defensively was awesome today. But his offense and final ball today was suspect.
The 3 man midfield of Iwobi-Ndidi-Etebo were fantastic....
Unto recovery for the Semi-final game.
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Well done is better than well said!!!
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Very true...Gotti wrote:His decision-making was just subpar...elerineye wrote:His final delivery was very poor...marko wrote:I thought Musa ran the south African player ragged and cant understand why he was subbed
But his running kept the SA defense honest all game. Kudos!
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@Marko, I was thinking the same way honestly. Musa delivery was bad but the absence of our players in the box was even a problem. It was only Ighalo against about 4 defenders. The presence of more players would have aided his decision making.marko wrote:I thought the front players were not on the same wave lenghth with Musa, they should have anticipated his runs and put themselves in position to receive, yes Musa final ball was not good but there was one or 2 balls Ighalo could have gotoloye wrote:Yes he did a great job on the guy, but it became frustrating watching him do all the work and no end product. I was almost losing my mind watching him get to vantage position only to cross to no one... In essence he was doing nothing, the ball was ending in a less dangerous area from a dangerous position.marko wrote:I thought Musa ran the south African player ragged and cant understand why he was subbed
A coach has to do something to stop the madness, before everyone lose their minds from expectations that was never there. Haba almost tore all my hair out. He did well, but his final decisions were poor.
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Collins can play!
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Cellular wrote:We have ourselves a Left Back.
Collins can play!
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Agreed!
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They should drill our front men in training, anticipation, making runs, when Musa attacks the defence, Ighalo should be on the last defender back, we can all blame Musa but the way he goes past defences with his pace, Nigeria does not make the best use of it
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Congratulations to the lads. Played very well but surprised Rohr subbed off Musa that was giving their RB so much hassles.
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Re: Nigeria 2-1 South Africa : FT(Samu, Ekong...VAR)
The deliveries were poor, I was taught simple football, put the pass where you should, if the person who is supposed to be there is not there, everyone will see. I did not see any ball go to where it should. Look at the ball Chukwueze squared across the goal, everyone was blaming Ighalo for not being there. Now ask yourself did Musa for all the chances he had square any decent ball like that?Curve whiz wrote:Oga Oloye, one question: Was it Musa’s final delivery that was poor or Ighalo and Iwobi sleeping and not reading the pass? The first few chances, Musa pulled it to the far post, Ighalo was hanging back at the D and Iwobi and Chukwueze were nowhere to be found. Later, Musa started pulling the ball to the D, and Ighalo started attacking the box.oloye wrote:Yes he did a great job on the guy, but it became frustrating watching him do all the work and no end product. I was almost losing my mind watching him get to vantage position only to cross to no one... In essence he was doing nothing, the ball was ending in a less dangerous area from a dangerous position.marko wrote:I thought Musa ran the south African player ragged and cant understand why he was subbed
A coach has to do something to stop the madness, before everyone lose their minds from expectations that was never there. Haba almost tore all my hair out. He did well, but his final decisions were poor.
Me I will blame Rohr for his personnel choices and not working with his strikers. Tbh, I think Osimhen or Onyekuru or Musa himself, looking at the way they attack the box, would have scored two or three goals from Musa’s crosses today.
Can you imagine, if Drogba or Aguero were in Ighalo position today? It would have been tap-in all day my brother. So, its not fair to keep blaming Musa, he’s actually more cerebral than most of his teammates. Ighalo need to stop ball watching, attack the box and allow Iwobi to arrive at the D.
There were two instances he cut back and I was expecting him to go for a curler, I could not believe when he passed back 30 yards, I mean who runs all the way into the box to pass the ball back 30 yards? That is a bad decision, I would rather blast the ball at the keeper than do that. It is about decision making, he could have single handedly kill the Bafana Bafana today.
He tried not to be selfish, I have one word for him once you find yourself in the box, let your striker instinct take over, become selfish
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Re: Nigeria 2-1 South Africa : FT(Samu, Ekong...VAR)
Chukwueze for all his dribbling, should have been the other late-arrival into the box from the right. so if the ball misses Ighalo (making a near or far-post run), and Iwobi coming from central, there should be someing running into the box from the right that gets to it.dhoney wrote:@Marko, I was thinking the same way honestly. Musa delivery was bad but the absence of our players in the box was even a problem. It was only Ighalo against about 4 defenders. The presence of more players would have aided his decision making.marko wrote:I thought the front players were not on the same wave lenghth with Musa, they should have anticipated his runs and put themselves in position to receive, yes Musa final ball was not good but there was one or 2 balls Ighalo could have gotoloye wrote:Yes he did a great job on the guy, but it became frustrating watching him do all the work and no end product. I was almost losing my mind watching him get to vantage position only to cross to no one... In essence he was doing nothing, the ball was ending in a less dangerous area from a dangerous position.marko wrote:I thought Musa ran the south African player ragged and cant understand why he was subbed
A coach has to do something to stop the madness, before everyone lose their minds from expectations that was never there. Haba almost tore all my hair out. He did well, but his final decisions were poor.
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Re: Nigeria 2-1 South Africa : FT(Samu, Ekong...VAR)
while he has problems with his final ball, all of that is not attributable to him. The movement on the other side is also contributory...Cellular wrote:Rohr, please next time you want to sub Musa out, sub Ighalo and have Musa play centrally.
You will then have 3 players who are interchangeable.
Musa defensively was awesome today. But his offense and final ball today was suspect.
The 3 man midfield of Iwobi-Ndidi-Etebo were fantastic....
Unto recovery for the Semi-final game.
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We watched this very boring video, 500 times, of Sacchi doing defensive drills, using sticks and without the ball, with Maldini, Baresi and Albertini. We used to think before then that if the other players are better, you have to lose. After that we learned anything is possible – you can beat better teams by using tactics." Jurgen Klopp