Friendly: Nigeria 0-2 Guinea FT - Gbeseiro's post-game thoughts
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Re: Friendly: Nigeria 0-2 Guinea FT
What is funnier than greg's comment is you thinking that you have got the grip on the profile of "Nigerians", I know it helps you get by but for the benefit of your blood pressure, recognize that everyone here is just spouting their own opinion and no one has monopoly otherwise the ebst of us would have risen to become coachesdanfo driver wrote: ↑Mon Jan 08, 2024 4:36 pmStill making excuses for them, huh? Gotta love Nigerians. Even in the most dire of circumstances, they'll still support and help their oppressor with excuses.greg wrote: ↑Mon Jan 08, 2024 4:31 pm My concern in all this is still no Boniface with a muscle injury. Suddenly we've gone from "spoiled with strikers" to having limited options. Watching NFF and the coach blame each other for the 25 (instead 27) player selection is comical at best. I think the language barrier may have been responsible for that. Hard as it is to believe.![]()
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Re: Friendly: Nigeria 0-2 Guinea FT
“A good coach is not one that sees the game but one that can read the game” Mario Zagolo. Nigeria has a piss poor coach…
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“A good coach is not one that sees the game but one that can read the game” Mario Zagolo. Nigeria has a piss poor coach…
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Y'all saw his record in Venezuela and other teams and thought you were getting a coach that reads the game?
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He supposedly played 4-3-3 with Awaziem in midfield.
Osayi Samuel
Omeruo
Ekong
Zaidu
Awaziem
Yusuf
Onyedika
Chukwueze
Simon
Sadiq
Kind of concerning we conceded 2 goals to Guinea with a such a defensive line-up
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Re: Friendly: Nigeria 0-2 Guinea FT
There might be some clues in this line up:
1. He might be setting up for a 4-3-3
2. This might be our second team. ie the first team being Aina, Bassey, Ajayi, Bruno, Onyeka, Iwobi, Aribo, Lookman, Iheanacho, Osimhen.
3. Playing Awaziem in midfield is an acceptance that we’re under-manned in defensive mid which begs the question why we’re not solving for that
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Re: Friendly: Nigeria 0-2 Guinea FT
As a fan, who is clear about the fact that I have no influence on the results or what goes on in the team, all I can say is that this does not bode well for confidence going into the tournament
With a 2-0 defeat, 2 things come to mind
1. The players, regardless of whether its a B team or C team, have not done enough to justify themselves starting. One would think players will use the opportunity to put their hands up and force their way into the starting line up
2. Following from 1, perhaps the players are indeed playing to their (limited) ability and this is all they can give. This then falls on the coaching team and their scouting policies. Have they done enough to get the best players, to get these boys in shape and to select the right team to challenge the big teams in Africa
My expectations are low, but I will be pleasantly surprised and Overjoyed to see the team do well. I really want to be proven wrong here but I think the team is mentally not ready for this. All the best to the team and hope they can turn it around in time for the weekend
With a 2-0 defeat, 2 things come to mind
1. The players, regardless of whether its a B team or C team, have not done enough to justify themselves starting. One would think players will use the opportunity to put their hands up and force their way into the starting line up
2. Following from 1, perhaps the players are indeed playing to their (limited) ability and this is all they can give. This then falls on the coaching team and their scouting policies. Have they done enough to get the best players, to get these boys in shape and to select the right team to challenge the big teams in Africa
My expectations are low, but I will be pleasantly surprised and Overjoyed to see the team do well. I really want to be proven wrong here but I think the team is mentally not ready for this. All the best to the team and hope they can turn it around in time for the weekend
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Gbeseiro's post-game thoughts
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Re: Friendly: Nigeria 0-2 Guinea FT
The reports are that we played a 343 to begin with, so Awaziem was a part of a back 3 and we AGAIN only had 2 central midfielders.
I dont know why Peseiro is obsessed with seeing we are understaffed in midfield.
Its like the man enjoys torture or something.
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Re: Friendly: Nigeria 0-2 Guinea FT - Gbeseiro's post-game thoughts
Good news Kele is already in CIV . Come on SE let's go enjoy the AFCON . Sad we are missing Wilf. This is the player i think would have had a top notch AFCON any ways there is another AFCON in the summer 2025
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Re: Friendly: Nigeria 0-2 Guinea FT
Have you thought of the scenario where the players thought, and executed the match as a meaningless warmup, and not bother giving 50%. How about avoiding injuries? If the players know who the starting 11 for the 1st match, why exert unnecessary effort?akamoke wrote: ↑Tue Jan 09, 2024 9:28 am As a fan, who is clear about the fact that I have no influence on the results or what goes on in the team, all I can say is that this does not bode well for confidence going into the tournament
With a 2-0 defeat, 2 things come to mind
1. The players, regardless of whether its a B team or C team, have not done enough to justify themselves starting. One would think players will use the opportunity to put their hands up and force their way into the starting line up
2. Following from 1, perhaps the players are indeed playing to their (limited) ability and this is all they can give. This then falls on the coaching team and their scouting policies. Have they done enough to get the best players, to get these boys in shape and to select the right team to challenge the big teams in Africa
My expectations are low, but I will be pleasantly surprised and Overjoyed to see the team do well. I really want to be proven wrong here but I think the team is mentally not ready for this. All the best to the team and hope they can turn it around in time for the weekend
Re: Friendly: Nigeria 0-2 Guinea FT - Gbeseiro's post-game thoughts
This Kele move is getting suspicious. He avoids UAE training camp. Excuses given. As per you, he is not in Lagos for the official sendoff. Is this turning out to be an Amokachi 98 WC episode where Amokachi carried a knee injury into the WC?Bigpokey24 wrote: ↑Tue Jan 09, 2024 3:06 pm Good news Kele is already in CIV . Come on SE let's go enjoy the AFCON . Sad we are missing Wilf. This is the player i think would have had a top notch AFCON any ways there is another AFCON in the summer 2025
It would appear the coaching staff/NFF, and Kele hope he would recover from whatever ailment is afflicting him by the quarterfinal.
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Uncle, so Guinea players gave 100% effort and didn't mind being injured?
OJI wrote: ↑Tue Jan 09, 2024 3:48 pmHave you thought of the scenario where the players thought, and executed the match as a meaningless warmup, and not bother giving 50%. How about avoiding injuries? If the players know who the starting 11 for the 1st match, why exert unnecessary effort?akamoke wrote: ↑Tue Jan 09, 2024 9:28 am As a fan, who is clear about the fact that I have no influence on the results or what goes on in the team, all I can say is that this does not bode well for confidence going into the tournament
With a 2-0 defeat, 2 things come to mind
1. The players, regardless of whether its a B team or C team, have not done enough to justify themselves starting. One would think players will use the opportunity to put their hands up and force their way into the starting line up
2. Following from 1, perhaps the players are indeed playing to their (limited) ability and this is all they can give. This then falls on the coaching team and their scouting policies. Have they done enough to get the best players, to get these boys in shape and to select the right team to challenge the big teams in Africa
My expectations are low, but I will be pleasantly surprised and Overjoyed to see the team do well. I really want to be proven wrong here but I think the team is mentally not ready for this. All the best to the team and hope they can turn it around in time for the weekend
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Possibly. Example, one won't exert effort in 50/50 ball situations. Why?1naija wrote: ↑Tue Jan 09, 2024 4:33 pm Uncle, so Guinea players gave 100% effort and didn't mind being injured?
OJI wrote: ↑Tue Jan 09, 2024 3:48 pmHave you thought of the scenario where the players thought, and executed the match as a meaningless warmup, and not bother giving 50%. How about avoiding injuries? If the players know who the starting 11 for the 1st match, why exert unnecessary effort?akamoke wrote: ↑Tue Jan 09, 2024 9:28 am As a fan, who is clear about the fact that I have no influence on the results or what goes on in the team, all I can say is that this does not bode well for confidence going into the tournament
With a 2-0 defeat, 2 things come to mind
1. The players, regardless of whether its a B team or C team, have not done enough to justify themselves starting. One would think players will use the opportunity to put their hands up and force their way into the starting line up
2. Following from 1, perhaps the players are indeed playing to their (limited) ability and this is all they can give. This then falls on the coaching team and their scouting policies. Have they done enough to get the best players, to get these boys in shape and to select the right team to challenge the big teams in Africa
My expectations are low, but I will be pleasantly surprised and Overjoyed to see the team do well. I really want to be proven wrong here but I think the team is mentally not ready for this. All the best to the team and hope they can turn it around in time for the weekend
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Could also possibly be that they just beat us?
OJI wrote: ↑Tue Jan 09, 2024 4:37 pmPossibly. Example, one won't exert effort in 50/50 ball situations. Why?1naija wrote: ↑Tue Jan 09, 2024 4:33 pm Uncle, so Guinea players gave 100% effort and didn't mind being injured?
OJI wrote: ↑Tue Jan 09, 2024 3:48 pmHave you thought of the scenario where the players thought, and executed the match as a meaningless warmup, and not bother giving 50%. How about avoiding injuries? If the players know who the starting 11 for the 1st match, why exert unnecessary effort?akamoke wrote: ↑Tue Jan 09, 2024 9:28 am As a fan, who is clear about the fact that I have no influence on the results or what goes on in the team, all I can say is that this does not bode well for confidence going into the tournament
With a 2-0 defeat, 2 things come to mind
1. The players, regardless of whether its a B team or C team, have not done enough to justify themselves starting. One would think players will use the opportunity to put their hands up and force their way into the starting line up
2. Following from 1, perhaps the players are indeed playing to their (limited) ability and this is all they can give. This then falls on the coaching team and their scouting policies. Have they done enough to get the best players, to get these boys in shape and to select the right team to challenge the big teams in Africa
My expectations are low, but I will be pleasantly surprised and Overjoyed to see the team do well. I really want to be proven wrong here but I think the team is mentally not ready for this. All the best to the team and hope they can turn it around in time for the weekend
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Re: Friendly: Nigeria 0-2 Guinea FT
Why play a 3-man midfield with no creative player? Iwobi, Aribo, or even Onyeka should have started in the 3-man midfield. A balanced 4-3-3 consists of either 2 box to box CMs and a creative AM; or 1 disciplined DM, a box to box CM, and a creative AM. What Peseiro did was play 3 defensive minded midfielders. That team probably struggled to retain possession.
For a 4-4-2 to work, you need 2 real box to box CMs, and one of the CFs to drop deep and play as a defacto attacking midfielder.
For a 4-4-2 to work, you need 2 real box to box CMs, and one of the CFs to drop deep and play as a defacto attacking midfielder.
Re: Friendly: Nigeria 0-2 Guinea FT - Gbeseiro's post-game thoughts
Might just be a coincidence, but this is exactly what happened with Kelechi in the build up to the 2015 U20 World Cup under Manu Garba.OJI wrote: ↑Tue Jan 09, 2024 3:52 pmThis Kele move is getting suspicious. He avoids UAE training camp. Excuses given. As per you, he is not in Lagos for the official sendoff. Is this turning out to be an Amokachi 98 WC episode where Amokachi carried a knee injury into the WC?Bigpokey24 wrote: ↑Tue Jan 09, 2024 3:06 pm Good news Kele is already in CIV . Come on SE let's go enjoy the AFCON . Sad we are missing Wilf. This is the player i think would have had a top notch AFCON any ways there is another AFCON in the summer 2025
It would appear the coaching staff/NFF, and Kele hope he would recover from whatever ailment is afflicting him by the quarterfinal.
The very very last minute culprits were Kelechi, Isaac Success and Moses Simon.
Na injury too.
The rest is history.
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Re: Friendly: Nigeria 0-2 Guinea FT - Gbeseiro's post-game thoughts
Are we ready to speak about our poor preparation for this tournament?
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