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1, There have been many great players that have been great coaches. Pep Guidiorla was a Barcelona legend and Spain legend. He is now arguably the best coach in the world.kawawa wrote: ↑Sun Mar 31, 2024 9:10 pm I always think the coach has the right to field his team. I am a big Finidi (the player) fan. That said two things bothered me about the two Finidi games
1) The narrative that he is our best winger ever and at one time the best in the world does not mean he will be a great coach. Some of the best coaches were mediocre players and some of the best players are mediocre coaches.
2) It must feel awful to travel from around the world for two friendly games with at least 10 subs allowed and a coach not really make any effort to use them. We can defend it all we want but the players affected have a right to feel sour. These were friendlies and it was not fair
Friendlies are meant to test new players. I would have played Dessers 180 minutes. Lookman would have gotten a total of 30 minutes. We already know what Lookman can do. I would have played Nwabili for only 45 minutes. Uzoho would have gotten most of the minutes. I would have called up Eletu, Akinsamiro and etc.maceo4 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 31, 2024 11:38 pm You wanted a host of brand new players which makes no sense. We said the coach may want to use the main players to build chemistry. But that doesn’t mean you don’t give players that are newer to the team a few minutes of play in two freaking games to get them feeling more comfortable with the team and not feeling like they wanted their time. I mean these are friendlies after all. If you are not going to give them PT in a friendly is it a do or die qualifier that you will blood them in?
And can you just stop mentioning Ramadan, what don’t you understand that Malis team are all Muslims and played and whooped us. If Sadiq is mad he didn’t get any PT then clearly he wanted to and expected to play. If they can’t play due to Ramadan then why invite them? Don’t you realize how down right stupid that argument is?! Like just stop…
The guy Ohenhen is a complete clown.maceo4 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 31, 2024 11:38 pm You wanted a host of brand new players which makes no sense. We said the coach may want to use the main players to build chemistry. But that doesn’t mean you don’t give players that are newer to the team a few minutes of play in two freaking games to get them feeling more comfortable with the team and not feeling like they wanted their time. I mean these are friendlies after all. If you are not going to give them PT in a friendly is it a do or die qualifier that you will blood them in?
And can you just stop mentioning Ramadan, what don’t you understand that Malis team are all Muslims and played and whooped us. If Sadiq is mad he didn’t get any PT then clearly he wanted to and expected to play. If they can’t play due to Ramadan then why invite them? Don’t you realize how down right stupid that argument is?! Like just stop…
I can't take anything you say seriously anymore. After I saw that post about you supporting Ivory coast. Are you even a Nigerian?vancity eagle wrote: ↑Mon Apr 01, 2024 1:09 amThe guy Ohenhen is a complete clown.maceo4 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 31, 2024 11:38 pm You wanted a host of brand new players which makes no sense. We said the coach may want to use the main players to build chemistry. But that doesn’t mean you don’t give players that are newer to the team a few minutes of play in two freaking games to get them feeling more comfortable with the team and not feeling like they wanted their time. I mean these are friendlies after all. If you are not going to give them PT in a friendly is it a do or die qualifier that you will blood them in?
And can you just stop mentioning Ramadan, what don’t you understand that Malis team are all Muslims and played and whooped us. If Sadiq is mad he didn’t get any PT then clearly he wanted to and expected to play. If they can’t play due to Ramadan then why invite them? Don’t you realize how down right stupid that argument is?! Like just stop…
But it's even worse.
These people are straight up dishonest.
They will lie and lie all to push their agenda of "local coach at all costs"
How can he keep talking about Ramadan with a straight face.
These people are dishonest and the lust for a local coach is all that matters.
They don't care if we fail to qualify for a second consecutive world cup.
That's how twisted they are.
Believe me, he is not ethnically Nigerian. He may have spent part of his life in Nigeria and thus by default has an affinity with the SE. But be rest assured he is not ethnically Nigerian. That is why he anonymously hide spewing his anti Nigerian sentimentsohenhen1 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 01, 2024 1:34 amI can't take anything you say seriously anymore. After I saw that post about you supporting Ivory coast. Are you even a Nigerian?vancity eagle wrote: ↑Mon Apr 01, 2024 1:09 amThe guy Ohenhen is a complete clown.maceo4 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 31, 2024 11:38 pm You wanted a host of brand new players which makes no sense. We said the coach may want to use the main players to build chemistry. But that doesn’t mean you don’t give players that are newer to the team a few minutes of play in two freaking games to get them feeling more comfortable with the team and not feeling like they wanted their time. I mean these are friendlies after all. If you are not going to give them PT in a friendly is it a do or die qualifier that you will blood them in?
And can you just stop mentioning Ramadan, what don’t you understand that Malis team are all Muslims and played and whooped us. If Sadiq is mad he didn’t get any PT then clearly he wanted to and expected to play. If they can’t play due to Ramadan then why invite them? Don’t you realize how down right stupid that argument is?! Like just stop…
But it's even worse.
These people are straight up dishonest.
They will lie and lie all to push their agenda of "local coach at all costs"
How can he keep talking about Ramadan with a straight face.
These people are dishonest and the lust for a local coach is all that matters.
They don't care if we fail to qualify for a second consecutive world cup.
That's how twisted they are.
You are one of the most foolish guys on this forum. In your heart of hearts, you know why Finidi did not start our best players and did not adequately use subs when we were down in a friendly match. Keep burying your head in the sand. Clowns like you are part of the reason Nigeria is the way it is..ohenhen1 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 31, 2024 10:13 pm1, There have been many great players that have been great coaches. Pep Guidiorla was a Barcelona legend and Spain legend. He is now arguably the best coach in the world.kawawa wrote: ↑Sun Mar 31, 2024 9:10 pm I always think the coach has the right to field his team. I am a big Finidi (the player) fan. That said two things bothered me about the two Finidi games
1) The narrative that he is our best winger ever and at one time the best in the world does not mean he will be a great coach. Some of the best coaches were mediocre players and some of the best players are mediocre coaches.
2) It must feel awful to travel from around the world for two friendly games with at least 10 subs allowed and a coach not really make any effort to use them. We can defend it all we want but the players affected have a right to feel sour. These were friendlies and it was not fair
2. Some people on this forum didn't want new players to be called up. They wanted to work on chemistry. I made a lineup of a new 11 that included Uzoho on this site. They rubbished it and said Nwabili should play against Mali. But once the game is over. We now seeing people attacking Finidi for not making enough subs. We don't know what happened in training. Not every one is guaranteed that they will play. But the coach saw them in training. You also had injuries and ramadan.
Umar, Yusuf didn't play because of Ramadan
Uzoho and Ojo are backup goalkeepers should have played to see what we have in the backups. But the coach saw them in training. You also had known WOWO advocating against the involvement of both prior to the game. But now are wondering why they didn't play. 5
I don't know why Bashiru and Tella didn't play. I am not going to speculate. But the coach saw them in training.
So
Nwabili, Taminu, Osayi, Omeruo, Awaziem, Bassey, Ajayi, Collins, Onyemachi, Iwobi, Onyedika, Onyeka, Iwobi, Ndidi, Moses, Dessers, Iheanacho, Lookman.
played.
17 out of 23 players saw game time. The rest trained with the team. Lets be fair and consistent in the criticism.
I am not a clown that speculates about things he doesn't know.Schillachi wrote: ↑Mon Apr 01, 2024 9:17 pmYou are one of the most foolish guys on this forum. In your heart of hearts, you know why Finidi did not start our best players and did not adequately use subs when we were down in a friendly match. Keep burying your head in the sand. Clowns like you are part of the reason Nigeria is the way it is..ohenhen1 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 31, 2024 10:13 pm1, There have been many great players that have been great coaches. Pep Guidiorla was a Barcelona legend and Spain legend. He is now arguably the best coach in the world.kawawa wrote: ↑Sun Mar 31, 2024 9:10 pm I always think the coach has the right to field his team. I am a big Finidi (the player) fan. That said two things bothered me about the two Finidi games
1) The narrative that he is our best winger ever and at one time the best in the world does not mean he will be a great coach. Some of the best coaches were mediocre players and some of the best players are mediocre coaches.
2) It must feel awful to travel from around the world for two friendly games with at least 10 subs allowed and a coach not really make any effort to use them. We can defend it all we want but the players affected have a right to feel sour. These were friendlies and it was not fair
2. Some people on this forum didn't want new players to be called up. They wanted to work on chemistry. I made a lineup of a new 11 that included Uzoho on this site. They rubbished it and said Nwabili should play against Mali. But once the game is over. We now seeing people attacking Finidi for not making enough subs. We don't know what happened in training. Not every one is guaranteed that they will play. But the coach saw them in training. You also had injuries and ramadan.
Umar, Yusuf didn't play because of Ramadan
Uzoho and Ojo are backup goalkeepers should have played to see what we have in the backups. But the coach saw them in training. You also had known WOWO advocating against the involvement of both prior to the game. But now are wondering why they didn't play. 5
I don't know why Bashiru and Tella didn't play. I am not going to speculate. But the coach saw them in training.
So
Nwabili, Taminu, Osayi, Omeruo, Awaziem, Bassey, Ajayi, Collins, Onyemachi, Iwobi, Onyedika, Onyeka, Iwobi, Ndidi, Moses, Dessers, Iheanacho, Lookman.
played.
17 out of 23 players saw game time. The rest trained with the team. Lets be fair and consistent in the criticism.
Dude regarding your first point. I wrote in pretty plain English. I never said there are no great players that make great coaches. I said SOME dont and also SOME mediocre players also make great coaches so not sure what the point you are making is.ohenhen1 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 31, 2024 10:13 pm1, There have been many great players that have been great coaches. Pep Guidiorla was a Barcelona legend and Spain legend. He is now arguably the best coach in the world.kawawa wrote: ↑Sun Mar 31, 2024 9:10 pm I always think the coach has the right to field his team. I am a big Finidi (the player) fan. That said two things bothered me about the two Finidi games
1) The narrative that he is our best winger ever and at one time the best in the world does not mean he will be a great coach. Some of the best coaches were mediocre players and some of the best players are mediocre coaches.
2) It must feel awful to travel from around the world for two friendly games with at least 10 subs allowed and a coach not really make any effort to use them. We can defend it all we want but the players affected have a right to feel sour. These were friendlies and it was not fair
2. Some people on this forum didn't want new players to be called up. They wanted to work on chemistry. I made a lineup of a new 11 that included Uzoho on this site. They rubbished it and said Nwabili should play against Mali. But once the game is over. We now seeing people attacking Finidi for not making enough subs. We don't know what happened in training. Not every one is guaranteed that they will play. But the coach saw them in training. You also had injuries and ramadan.
Umar, Yusuf didn't play because of Ramadan
Uzoho and Ojo are backup goalkeepers should have played to see what we have in the backups. But the coach saw them in training. You also had known WOWO advocating against the involvement of both prior to the game. But now are wondering why they didn't play. 5
I don't know why Bashiru and Tella didn't play. I am not going to speculate. But the coach saw them in training.
So
Nwabili, Taminu, Osayi, Omeruo, Awaziem, Bassey, Ajayi, Collins, Onyemachi, Iwobi, Onyedika, Onyeka, Iwobi, Ndidi, Moses, Dessers, Iheanacho, Lookman.
played.
17 out of 23 players saw game time. The rest trained with the team. Lets be fair and consistent in the criticism.
Stop disgracing yourself with this nonsense. I was Finidi's biggest supporter before the friendly and after the Ghana match. Even gave him the benefit of the doubt for this questionable starting lineup for the Ghana match. But his lineup for the Mali match, his substitutions and lack of, during the Mali match, coupled with the previous history that he was fighting with one of the SE players for the jersey of an opponent player, has shown me enough that he lacks integrity.
generation of players. His playing CV will command instant respect from the players. During his playing career Finidi won/achieved more than every single currently active Nigerian player (even more than Osimhen). Finidi is one of only 2 Nigerians in history to play in 2 Champions League finals. So a coaching position is supposed to be for flexing your ego ?wiseone wrote: ↑Wed Jun 05, 2024 2:28 am To some extent I think Finidi is ideal for the mentality of the modern “show us your medals”generation of players. His playing CV will command instant respect from the players. During his playing career Finidi won/achieved more than every single currently active Nigerian player (even more than Osimhen). Finidi is one of only 2 Nigerians in history to play in 2 Champions League finals.
If he gets backchat from a player, he can genuinely ask him “I won the Champions League, played in 2 successive Champions League finals, and played for one of the greatest teams of all time. What the **** have you won?”
Who is supposed to start when Iwobi is not there ?ohenhen1 wrote: ↑Wed Jun 05, 2024 3:04 am The same Dele Bashiru they said Finidi didn't like, didn't give any playing time in the friendlies is now projected to start against South Africa. He said in an interview this is his first time in NIgeria. Watched some of his games for his clubsid in Turkey. The guy has improved a lot. Didn't' know he was fast.