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I guess for you, it is better to lose and be appreciated by your opponents for being 'tactically sound'?txj wrote:"We often stand in the compound of the fool and point at the ruins where a brave man used to live". Chinua Achebe
You can be brave, while stupid...txj
Seeking affirmation from oyibo? Please rewatch that game again - Uzoho tried to do that a few times but there were no runners for him, Mikel and co just trotted casually into space to receive the balls. Maybe the difference is that Vince would have berated them and Uzoho being junior could not.Kabalega wrote:I told you guys about this during the friendlies ...
Sometimes a goalie can help out a bit.
Enyeama was very excellent at ball distribution and would have quarterbacked a few fast moves to reach Ighalo. Essentially cutting off the slow ones in the MF without fear or favor. He would also explain why.
Uzoho is still immature and also not daring to do such a thing.
Cowards die a thousand times before their death.txj wrote:Some men see the Zulu impi and all they see is a horde of disorderly natives storming the "Bastille"!
Others see Mexico running rampant at those German lines, and all they see is bravery...
You can be brave, while being stupid!
Cellular wrote:Cowards die a thousand times before their death.txj wrote:Some men see the Zulu impi and all they see is a horde of disorderly natives storming the "Bastille"!
Others see Mexico running rampant at those German lines, and all they see is bravery...
You can be brave, while being stupid!
And Waffi pipul go say, "all die na die"!
You couldn't be referring to me on this subject...Go read again what SO wrote and my comments there and u will understand my position.Cellular wrote:I guess for you, it is better to lose and be appreciated by your opponents for being 'tactically sound'?txj wrote:"We often stand in the compound of the fool and point at the ruins where a brave man used to live". Chinua Achebe
You can be brave, while stupid...txj
Dude, there are several ways to play this game...
In fact, in multiple sports, there are several ways to play it.
We play football a certain way. What has been our albatross was our off-field organization not how we play it. It was NEVER our style of play but the ish we do outside that doesn't put us in the best position to win.
They're not confident enough to move the ball quickly into midfield so often take the safe option of passing among themselves.kali wrote:The backline were passing the ball among themselves as if they had all the time in the world.
Word!nanijoe wrote:Well one other thing I have learned is that Oyibo will "talk down" your strengths so you can compete on their own terms..
"Serena only knows how to play with power"
"The Africans don't play with any set shape or formation"
Once you listen to them..Opari
See how that works?
oloye wrote:Yes now see how much our disorganisation is being preyed upon. My brother if oyinbo praise you,look yourself well again...those guys are cunny and never speak the truth. The biggest lesson I have learnt in Europe is double talk.nanijoe wrote:soo what did you like so much about the organization you saw on Saturday? do we always have to meet some one eles's definition of how to do something right?
funny enough both the Croatians and Argentina pretty much came out to say they were worried about our so called disorganization
oloye wrote:If you are an oyinbo coach and you are given an African team to coach and you see the mentality of such around dangerous areas , your first task will be to set them up in conservative way. The lack of organisation is mind boggling. But these are the things that thrill African fans.
I remember when I was doing my coaching course when I first came to UK shortly after quitting the game. We were having these 6 aside games to teach tactics and so on. O received the ball in a defensive area and this guy came charging at me, I simply nutmegged him. The coach stopped the game right there and told me off saying it was not necessary....I simply looked at him wondering why he was unable to admire my soki skill. But I learnt a lesson one of the follies in our attitude towards the game.
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Super Eagles: The Writings On The Wall
Posted By: soccerasson: June 18, 2018In: The Dugout
The signs were ominous but we choose to ignore as we so often do, blinded by passion and deep patriotism, choosing instead to believe that miracles would happen.
Once again . . .they did not and we face reality stark in the face.
The Super Eagles loss to Croatia is not a rude awakening. On the contrary, we should have seen it coming. Correction, we did see it coming
After comfortably seeing out the qualifiers, the warm up games prior to the World Cup proper were truly cause for genuine concern (asides the victory over Argentina)
It wasn’t just that we were losing, it was the manner in which we were losing, looking in many of those games like a team without ideas or direction
Against Poland even though we eventually ran away 1-0 winners over a team which included Robert Lewandowsky in their own backyard, one thing became obvious : The Eagles were having challenges with goal scoring.
We did not register a single shot on target against the Poles and our goal came from a contentious penalty. We then faced Serbia and again we had challenges scoring, totally outclassed by the Serbs in a 2-0 defeat
The game against England provided more insights yet, as we made an average England side look like world champions only putting up a bit of a fight after we were 2 goals down and switched formation. We were poor in midfield, we were dreadful defending set pieces and we were slow out of the blocks.
Against the Czechs in our final warm up game our deficiencies in creating chances and in goal scoring were brought to the fore again as we fell 1-0 looking unimaginative and bereft of ideas
More frightening was that these games were seemingly suggesting a slow tactical response from coach Gernot Rohr as it always took long for him to effect changes that were needed with his tactical responses almost coming too late most times
The truth was bare before us: with Rohr in charge we may have excelled against continental opposition but on the International stage we have been poor and the pre world cup warm up games exposed this.
Pundits & critics alike highlighted these flaws, analyzed and proffered solutions and we all looked on hoping that somehow our German tactician could within a couple of days fix our obvious deficiencies . . . .we hoped for too much.
Now those deficiencies are back to haunt us in the world cup proper. Our performance was downright dreadful. Like one major headline wrote “The Croatians strolled past us to victory . . . Uncontested”
We were a team bereft of ideas and creativity often looking lost with the ball and unsure of how best to proceed, a team once revered for its attacking prowess could only manage 2 shots on target
None of our concerns have been fixed and all our flaws have come back to haunt us. Rohr is still slow in response, Iwobi is still wasted on the wings, Mikel should be benched or deployed deeper, the team is still unable to come out of the blocks firing, the uninspired tepidness still exists, the team still cannot score or get adequate shots on targets . . . .it’s all the same nothing has changed
All this despite one of our best ever preparations , with a federation that has come to the table and done all it should do . . . .there is frankly nowhere else to lay the blame than at the feet of the workman in charge of the team and the way he chooses to employ his tools
Qualifying from this group is not impossible yet, maybe our Miracle could still happen otherwise . . . the way we are now, we are staring not just at an embarrassing early return home, but a World Cup that could go down as our worst ever!
Come on now, that is one of Uzoho weaknesses even his GKs and clearances barely cross half field. It’s something he can definitely improve on.Siddonlook11 wrote:Please rewatch that game again - Uzoho tried to do that a few times but there were no runners for him, Mikel and co just trotted casually into space to receive the balls. Maybe the difference is that Vince would have berated them and Uzoho being junior could not.Kabalega wrote:I told you guys about this during the friendlies ...
Sometimes a goalie can help out a bit.
Enyeama was very excellent at ball distribution and would have quarterbacked a few fast moves to reach Ighalo. Essentially cutting off the slow ones in the MF without fear or favor. He would also explain why.
Uzoho is still immature and also not daring to do such a thing.
But the bigger issue is our non existent attacking midfield, its not Ighalo or Uzoho, watch Kelechi start and the same thing happen if we keep the same guys and formation in the midfield.
Ighalo is part of the problem. He does not move to create openings, does not run into space, off the ball movement is pretty much zero... instead he wants the ball played to his feet and he is easily crowded out. He is built but easily goes down...why have a six pack then?cic old boy wrote:How many chances does he get and miss? That is the real question. The problem is that we don't create chances b/c our coach is too conservative.The YeyeMan wrote: Ighalo is part of the problem. He's never been prolific for Nigeria.
Thanks for NOTHING Bros! We don't want English Safety-First-Middle-and-Last football...oloye wrote:If you are an oyinbo coach and you are given an African team to coach and you see the mentality of such around dangerous areas , your first task will be to set them up in conservative way. The lack of organisation is mind boggling. But these are the things that thrill African fans.
I remember when I was doing my coaching course when I first came to UK shortly after quitting the game. We were having these 6 aside games to teach tactics and so on. O received the ball in a defensive area and this guy came charging at me, I simply nutmegged him. The coach stopped the game right there and told me off saying it was not necessary....I simply looked at him wondering why he was unable to admire my soki skill. But I learnt a lesson one of the follies in our attitude towards the game.
He is yet to learn the skills of transition defend to attack... This could be because he is new to the team and he has not built enough match chemistry with the attacking players.maceo4 wrote:
Come on now, that is one of Uzoho weaknesses even his GKs and clearances barely cross half field. It’s something he can definitely improve on.
Ighalo is our best striker. No doubt. He is no Luis Suarez. He is what he is. Even if you play with one upfront, he needs runners from midfield to support play. We all know that Mikel and running don't go together.Riche007 wrote: Ighalo is part of the problem. He does not move to create openings, does not run into space, off the ball movement is pretty much zero... instead he wants the ball played to his feet and he is easily crowded out. He is built but easily goes down...why have a six pack then?
Ultimately, it's on the coach and you need to build a system that leverages the strengths of the players. If Ighalo must play, then he needs a mobile partner...otherwise, Ighalo will still struggle to find the opening in your favorite ashawo joint.
Gotti wrote:Thanks for NOTHING Bros! We don't want English Safety-First-Middle-and-Last football...oloye wrote:If you are an oyinbo coach and you are given an African team to coach and you see the mentality of such around dangerous areas , your first task will be to set them up in conservative way. The lack of organisation is mind boggling. But these are the things that thrill African fans.
I remember when I was doing my coaching course when I first came to UK shortly after quitting the game. We were having these 6 aside games to teach tactics and so on. O received the ball in a defensive area and this guy came charging at me, I simply nutmegged him. The coach stopped the game right there and told me off saying it was not necessary....I simply looked at him wondering why he was unable to admire my soki skill. But I learnt a lesson one of the follies in our attitude towards the game.
There's a GOOD reason that English coaches do not coach the best teams in the English PL (and pretty soon, they might not coach any EPL teams at all). Franz Backenbeur (and I realize Oloye is no Kaiser) dribbled in his own half, as did the entire slew of the Dutch 1974 and 1978 "total football" defenders. Brazilians (and of course latterly Spainards) are all comfortable playing the ball (and with the ball) in their own half of the field. Frankly, I am developing the thesis that the reason that our teams are becoming poorer and poorer (and increasingly lacking in any creativity) is that our players are coming to Old Europe earlier and earlier, and accordingly have all creativity and invention weaned off them by the sorts of "coaches" that was in charge of your UK coaching course. Olodumare helps us!
