Re: The Arsenal - Related News and Development for 2017/2018
Posted: Tue Nov 07, 2017 3:49 pm
Lee is not wrong.
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Oh no he did not!! He better watch out for Waffi and his gang. Is Dixon a drunk too? Or fought with Wenger in the past?Tunisian Gooner wrote:Lee is not wrong.
*SIGH***I guess the delusion continues. Bros. please seek help!Nkume wrote:We will meet City again, and the outcome will be different.
SylverEagles wrote:Oh no he did not!! He better watch out for Waffi and his gang. Is Dixon a drunk too? Or fought with Wenger in the past?Tunisian Gooner wrote:Lee is not wrong.
No it is people that say Arsenal are trash and yet expect them to sweep city apart that need help. Our team is very good but limited. I accept this. I will support my team and our players. I still expect us to win things as we have done in the last 4 years. It is people cursing arsenal and expecting real madrid of early 2017 that are crazy.SylverEagles wrote:*SIGH***I guess the delusion continues. Bros. please seek help!Nkume wrote:We will meet City again, and the outcome will be different.
Tunisian Gooner wrote:Lee is not wrong.
Here's a quote from that article above:realtrouble wrote:And this season, de Bruyne has delivered when it matters most. City have played three top six sides this season — Liverpool, Chelsea, and Arsenal. De Bruyne, in those three games, has scored two goals and assisted two goals, being named ‘Man of the Match’, for what it’s worth, in all three fixtures
I guess you turn a blind eye to that quote. And honestly i am tired of this Ozil KDB argument. Here we have 2 players playing in different position in teams differently setup. While KDB plays in his natural position and Ozil is sent out right, people close their eyes to that basic fact. Above all, KDB plays within a platform provided by Fernadinho where as Ozil isn't afforded that luxury.In games against the traditional top six away from home, Arsene Wenger has increasingly set up in a defensive manner, demanding that his players relinquish possession, sit deep, and protect their shape and structure without the ball. That is not Ozil’s strength. So his going missing in these sort of games is not necessarily his fault; the style that he plays with, what he offers the team, the type of player that he is, does not suit that the strategy that Wenger tends to employ.
I guess you turn a blind eye to that quote. And honestly i am tired of this Ozil KDB argument. Here we have 2 players playing in different position in teams differently setup. While KDB plays in his natural position and Ozil is sent out right, people close their eyes to that basic fact. Above all, KDB plays within a platform provided by Fernadinho where as Ozil isn't afforded that luxury.In games against the traditional top six away from home, Arsene Wenger has increasingly set up in a defensive manner, demanding that his players relinquish possession, sit deep, and protect their shape and structure without the ball. That is not Ozil’s strength. So his going missing in these sort of games is not necessarily his fault; the style that he plays with, what he offers the team, the type of player that he is, does not suit that the strategy that Wenger tends to employ.
so u played college football or college soccer football?Nkume wrote:No it is people that say Arsenal are trash and yet expect them to sweep city apart that need help. Our team is very good but limited. I accept this. I will support my team and our players. I still expect us to win things as we have done in the last 4 years. It is people cursing arsenal and expecting real madrid of early 2017 that are crazy.SylverEagles wrote:*SIGH***I guess the delusion continues. Bros. please seek help!Nkume wrote:We will meet City again, and the outcome will be different.
Please tell us the teams that are in the title race this season.Gooner1 wrote:season started end of august.....arsenal out of the title race by the end of oct.......progress
Skylolo wrote:Please tell us the teams that are in the title race this season.Gooner1 wrote:season started end of august.....arsenal out of the title race by the end of oct.......progress
We did not start well, the uncertainty around likes of Sanchez, Ozil and Oxlade did not help at the start of the season. We have now recovered from that looking at the league table.tolahs wrote:Skylolo wrote:Please tell us the teams that are in the title race this season.Gooner1 wrote:season started end of august.....arsenal out of the title race by the end of oct.......progress
We're probably the most rested of the top 6 - yet we're struggling - huge problem. 8/9 starters on Sunday for ManC also started against Napoli - what are our targets?
@Ski with all due respect who do you blame for this Arsenal not start well in the beginning of the season?Skylolo wrote:We did not start well, the uncertainty around likes of Sanchez, Ozil and Oxlade did not help at the start of the season. We have now recovered from that looking at the league table.tolahs wrote:Skylolo wrote:Please tell us the teams that are in the title race this season.Gooner1 wrote:season started end of august.....arsenal out of the title race by the end of oct.......progress
We're probably the most rested of the top 6 - yet we're struggling - huge problem. 8/9 starters on Sunday for ManC also started against Napoli - what are our targets?
We have played the most difficult fixtures of the top teams this season: Liverpool (Away), Chelsea (Away), Citeh (Away). Yes we can do better but let us not forget the atrocities away refs have committed against us so far this season. Penalties not given at Stoke, Lacazette goal, outright dive at Watford, 2 players offside at Citeh.
Our target is to finish as high up as we can, unfortunately I do not think we can win the league because the team is not strong enough. I personally do not believe 2nd place is beyond this team, especially if something can be added to this team in January. I don't look at Chelsea, Manure, Spurs and Liverpool and think they will be better than us over 38 games.
Yes we are the best rested of the top 6, however we may not Cash in on that advantage until much later in the season. There is a long way to go.... Some good things are happening at Arsenal, look for example how our B team have qualified for the next stage of the Europa league, unearthing some very good young players who can add some depth to the team. Look at the return of Jack Wilshere, Cazorla may return next year....it is not easy for us as it is for Man City and Chelsea, fans should stop complaining and get behind the team.
Chelsea team that won last year was not deep as our current team but take advantage of resting not playing in CL.tolahs wrote:Skylolo wrote:Please tell us the teams that are in the title race this season.Gooner1 wrote:season started end of august.....arsenal out of the title race by the end of oct.......progress
We're probably the most rested of the top 6 - yet we're struggling - huge problem. 8/9 starters on Sunday for ManC also started against Napoli - what are our targets?
This is the problem with many of you, it is not about blame! Who is to blame for Liverpool not winning the league for 20+ years and Spurs for over 50 years? You try your best and leave the rest!kajifu wrote:@Ski with all due respect who do you blame for this Arsenal not start well in the beginning of the season?Skylolo wrote:We did not start well, the uncertainty around likes of Sanchez, Ozil and Oxlade did not help at the start of the season. We have now recovered from that looking at the league table.tolahs wrote:Skylolo wrote:Please tell us the teams that are in the title race this season.Gooner1 wrote:season started end of august.....arsenal out of the title race by the end of oct.......progress
We're probably the most rested of the top 6 - yet we're struggling - huge problem. 8/9 starters on Sunday for ManC also started against Napoli - what are our targets?
We have played the most difficult fixtures of the top teams this season: Liverpool (Away), Chelsea (Away), Citeh (Away). Yes we can do better but let us not forget the atrocities away refs have committed against us so far this season. Penalties not given at Stoke, Lacazette goal, outright dive at Watford, 2 players offside at Citeh.
Our target is to finish as high up as we can, unfortunately I do not think we can win the league because the team is not strong enough. I personally do not believe 2nd place is beyond this team, especially if something can be added to this team in January. I don't look at Chelsea, Manure, Spurs and Liverpool and think they will be better than us over 38 games.
Yes we are the best rested of the top 6, however we may not Cash in on that advantage until much later in the season. There is a long way to go.... Some good things are happening at Arsenal, look for example how our B team have qualified for the next stage of the Europa league, unearthing some very good young players who can add some depth to the team. Look at the return of Jack Wilshere, Cazorla may return next year....it is not easy for us as it is for Man City and Chelsea, fans should stop complaining and get behind the team.
Why is the team not strong enough to compete consider we have the most stable manager with many years at the club and freedom to make his team strong?
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[/quote]Siddonlook11 wrote:this is true ..however we as fans expect that when he is played out of position as a "well paid consummate professional " he plays the "out of position excellently" and the issue with most of us is that he has not done that.
Heck Danny was bought as a striker but has only ever played in the wing position and while the guy cant score to save his life no one ..i repeat no one will ever complain about his effort !!
Oh by the way Walcott is not in the same boat o ..that one na proper Akpa !!
Here's a quote from that article above:I guess you turn a blind eye to that quote. And honestly i am tired of this Ozil KDB argument. Here we have 2 players playing in different position in teams differently setup. While KDB plays in his natural position and Ozil is sent out right, people close their eyes to that basic fact. Above all, KDB plays within a platform provided by Fernadinho where as Ozil isn't afforded that luxury.In games against the traditional top six away from home, Arsene Wenger has increasingly set up in a defensive manner, demanding that his players relinquish possession, sit deep, and protect their shape and structure without the ball. That is not Ozil’s strength. So his going missing in these sort of games is not necessarily his fault; the style that he plays with, what he offers the team, the type of player that he is, does not suit that the strategy that Wenger tends to employ.
Guys chill, Russia is around the corner and let's pray Belgium meets Germany along the way. That will be a better match to analyze the two players. Let's see how KDB compares to Ozil then since both will be played in their natural positions and given the same platform to perform too.
TBH, i find it difficult to believe you're serious - one has to wonder where your ceiling is? at what point do you go i've had enough of this cos right now, intentionally or not you've become an enabler of mediocrity. Not a PR officer(@arsenal) could get away with the defense you're putting up.Skylolo wrote:We did not start well, the uncertainty around likes of Sanchez, Ozil and Oxlade did not help at the start of the season. We have now recovered from that looking at the league table.tolahs wrote:Skylolo wrote:Please tell us the teams that are in the title race this season.Gooner1 wrote:season started end of august.....arsenal out of the title race by the end of oct.......progress
We're probably the most rested of the top 6 - yet we're struggling - huge problem. 8/9 starters on Sunday for ManC also started against Napoli - what are our targets?
We have played the most difficult fixtures of the top teams this season: Liverpool (Away), Chelsea (Away), Citeh (Away). Yes we can do better but let us not forget the atrocities away refs have committed against us so far this season. Penalties not given at Stoke, Lacazette goal, outright dive at Watford, 2 players offside at Citeh.
Our target is to finish as high up as we can, unfortunately I do not think we can win the league because the team is not strong enough. I personally do not believe 2nd place is beyond this team, especially if something can be added to this team in January. I don't look at Chelsea, Manure, Spurs and Liverpool and think they will be better than us over 38 games.
Yes we are the best rested of the top 6, however we may not Cash in on that advantage until much later in the season. There is a long way to go.... Some good things are happening at Arsenal, look for example how our B team have qualified for the next stage of the Europa league, unearthing some very good young players who can add some depth to the team. Look at the return of Jack Wilshere, Cazorla may return next year....it is not easy for us as it is for Man City and Chelsea, fans should stop complaining and get behind the team.
Chelsea used the time to put in productive coaching sessions - made Moses an awesome wingback, took Hazard away from the wings so his tracking back issues disappeared - Pedro who'd been begging Valencia to come get him the previous season when Chelsea were a mess was reborn.kajifu wrote:Chelsea team that won last year was not deep as our current team but take advantage of resting not playing in CL.tolahs wrote:Skylolo wrote:Please tell us the teams that are in the title race this season.Gooner1 wrote:season started end of august.....arsenal out of the title race by the end of oct.......progress
We're probably the most rested of the top 6 - yet we're struggling - huge problem. 8/9 starters on Sunday for ManC also started against Napoli - what are our targets?
Leicester same and yet Arsenal will not take advantage of missing CL to make a statement at EPL crown.
[/quote]platinum wrote:I don't necessarily agree with the position argument however he leads the league in chances created, is that not enough? The issue most fans seem to have with Ozil is this perceived lack of effort. England is the wrong place for the German, the league where effort is valued the most.
When you call him 'well paid', you're joking around obviously...his mates at other clubs earn far more. Have you not seen that he and Alexis want to leave and go earn more?
Siddonlook11 wrote:this is true ..however we as fans expect that when he is played out of position as a "well paid consummate professional " he plays the "out of position excellently" and the issue with most of us is that he has not done that.
Heck Danny was bought as a striker but has only ever played in the wing position and while the guy cant score to save his life no one ..i repeat no one will ever complain about his effort !!
Oh by the way Walcott is not in the same boat o ..that one na proper Akpa !!
Here's a quote from that article above:I guess you turn a blind eye to that quote. And honestly i am tired of this Ozil KDB argument. Here we have 2 players playing in different position in teams differently setup. While KDB plays in his natural position and Ozil is sent out right, people close their eyes to that basic fact. Above all, KDB plays within a platform provided by Fernadinho where as Ozil isn't afforded that luxury.In games against the traditional top six away from home, Arsene Wenger has increasingly set up in a defensive manner, demanding that his players relinquish possession, sit deep, and protect their shape and structure without the ball. That is not Ozil’s strength. So his going missing in these sort of games is not necessarily his fault; the style that he plays with, what he offers the team, the type of player that he is, does not suit that the strategy that Wenger tends to employ.
Guys chill, Russia is around the corner and let's pray Belgium meets Germany along the way. That will be a better match to analyze the two players. Let's see how KDB compares to Ozil then since both will be played in their natural positions and given the same platform to perform too.
[/quote]I watched ManC away to Napoli - KDB was subbed late & was tired - on sunday he logged more km than most of our team - it's a serious problem - The way he went for the 1st goal was putting a marker on the pitch - not Ozil or any of our guys played like they wanted it enough. I've seen Ozil play with hustle & hunger for Germany.