[Man United] New Manager - Jose Mourinho.

[wiseone]

Farewell LVG. May you have a great retirement to your mediterranean villa with your wife, and a long healthy retirement. The best thing he did at Man Utd was this:

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Some of his best moments:

[Kabalega]

Sauce Big mistake on ManU's part.

Louis van Gaal has been sacked as manager of Manchester United, with former Chelsea boss Jose Mourinho set to be named as his replacement.

Van Gaal, 64, leaves after two years of a three-year contract and is discussing severance terms.

The former Netherlands boss is believed to earn around £6.4m a year.

Mourinho's appointment is expected to be confirmed after the 53-year-old Portuguese meets senior United officials on Tuesday.

The club were expected to confirm Van Gaal's departure on Monday, having spoken to the Dutchman, but as of 19:00 BST there was no official announcement.

He arrived at Manchester United's training ground at 08:45 BST on Monday and left shortly before 17:00.

Forty-five minutes after his arrival in the morning, League Managers Association lawyer Paul Gilroy QC also drove into Carrington.

Gilroy is the same employment barrister who acted for David Moyes when he was sacked as manager by United in 2014.

He arrived at about 09:30 and was initially refused entry before being allowed in about 15 minutes later, refusing to answer questions about the reason for his presence.

According to his profile page on the Nine St John Street Chambers website, Gilroy has advised and acted for a number of football clients, including Roy Hodgson, Martin O'Neill, Sir Alex Ferguson, Harry Redknapp, Roy Keane, Roberto Martinez, Sam Allardyce, Brendan Rodgers, Alan Pardew, Nigel Pearson and Steve McClaren.

Van Gaal took control of United after leading the Netherlands to the semi-finals of the 2014 World Cup in Brazil........

[ANC]

Kai, one of the greatest managers of the game. At least, he can keep his head up...he remains a winner.

[Kabalega]

Kai, one of the greatest managers of the game. At least, he can keep his head up...he remains a winner.

Idiots are running ManU. I feel sorry for their fans because they are going to experience what Liverpool has endured the last few decades and maybe worse.

[mcal]

...this might be a big big mistake, but I believe Jose will prove all wrong.
At least the man won a trophy but not champ league tv money. That's what the decision makers are looking at.
Reason the likes of Wenger is still there keeping Arsenal in top 4 for european tv money.

[felarey]

Seriously there should be boundaries within which ambition should drive a man, i dont know what is going on here, but everything sounds and looks immoral. From Jose who it appears has allowed ambition to becloud his sense of decency, to Mendes who worships money and of course the Manchester united management who are treating a seasoned coach without respect with all the murky stuff going on in the background.

The seasoned coach should have respected himself by meeting the agreed minimum target of champions league football by addressing glaring issues in the team's approach to the game for 38 weeks. He should have respected himself by not stubbornly playing Mata on the right wing, Ashley Young as center forward among other interesting decisions week in week out. United is primarily a business and Van Gaal was earning huge money to keep this business afloat. People like you have laughed at and mocked United's boring approach that was left unaddressed for months yet you blame the management for letting go of a top manager whose only emotional display during crucial moments was to sit down there and write some nonsense on his notepad. I can do that for free.

Louis van Gaal must be living in some lala land if he thinks he can get a job and also dictate his own targets. FA cup was his target as he openly declared knowing fully well that United's management were clear that their target is always the EPL and the champions league. He lost his job at West Ham. He should know it. He should enjoy his FA cup glory but just as Van Persie's, Di Maria's, Chicharito's, Evra's, Nani's etc's objectives did not align with his, it is clear his no longer align with United's. There is no room for emotions here. With his result in 2 years he would have been fired at Chelsea, Bayern, Man City, Barca, Real, Juventus - he should expect the same at United. The expectations that he called 'too high' is real. The 76,000 at Old Trafford every match day and millions across the globe expect excellence or at least a top class effort towards excellence and the transfer budget from the management attests to that.

Nothing more to be said, to think the man was picking up 123G a week all this while.

Played with a garbage defence all year.

Playing players out of position.

Disrespecting the likes of Rio, Gary, Scholes etc. Despite not achieving squat.

My only concern in all this is Giggs.

[Lager-back]

It is official. LVG has been fired. Here is what Jose thinks of Man Utd:



...and the Man Utd players' reaction to LVG being sacked:

that last one kai

[balo]

Man U fans should smile now before the season starts. Or smile and laugh well for one season.

[Kabalega]

"Van Gaal was apparently informed of his impending departure by his wife when - still at Wembley following the club's FA Cup final win - she read the news on the BBC website on Saturday evening.

"United hold the Dutchman in high regard and had desperately tried to maintain secrecy during their negotiations with Mourinho, hoping Van Gaal would lead his team to a top-four spot in the Premier League.

sauce Idiots are running ManU.

[danfo driver]

"Van Gaal was apparently informed of his impending departure by his wife when - still at Wembley following the club's FA Cup final win - she read the news on the BBC website on Saturday evening.

"United hold the Dutchman in high regard and had desperately tried to maintain secrecy during their negotiations with Mourinho, hoping Van Gaal would lead his team to a top-four spot in the Premier League.

sauce Idiots are running ManU.

Everyone has their own version.

The version I know is that Van Gaal knew as far back as December, when Mourinho accepted the approach.

The Mirror has their own version:

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/ ... ss-8034049


At the end of the day, the cane that was used to flog the first wife has been kept and will also be used to flog the second wife. Va Gaal did not bat an eyelid when Moyes was being humiliated. Mourinho should also accept the same fate when/if it does happen to him.

[Waffiman]

"Van Gaal was apparently informed of his impending departure by his wife when - still at Wembley following the club's FA Cup final win - she read the news on the BBC website on Saturday evening.

"United hold the Dutchman in high regard and had desperately tried to maintain secrecy during their negotiations with Mourinho, hoping Van Gaal would lead his team to a top-four spot in the Premier League.

sauce Idiots are running ManU.

That's from Van Gaal's people. It is truly disgraceful. But Manure, did similar to Moyes.

[Waffiman]

Seriously there should be boundaries within which ambition should drive a man, i dont know what is going on here, but everything sounds and looks immoral. From Jose who it appears has allowed ambition to becloud his sense of decency, to Mendes who worships money and of course the Manchester united management who are treating a seasoned coach without respect with all the murky stuff going on in the background.

My brother, morality and football in the same sentence? This is a club owned by vulture capitalists and run for them by an investment banker. Their only interest is how much they can make. Once there was no CL football and all the money involved, Van Gaal was a goner.

Borinho and them are a marriage of convenience. He will bring them attention and high maintenance drama and possibly CL qualification. They will pay him megabucks and spend top dollar on Mendes’ players (making money for Mendes and Borinho). If there is success on the pitch, everybody is happy. If there isn’t, expect the drama of Borinho’s patented scorched earth policy.

The other people happy about this are the media. My Chelski supporting boss predicted that Borinho will take Manure to mid table next season.

My brother i know, i know , that is why my first attention was on Jose. While one may not be able to control corporate lusts and greed for profit, the individuals caught within it at least should be able to exercise some sense of decency. I cannot fault Mendes, he works within the system to make money, but i can fault Jose and ManU.

I can fault Jose because at the end of the day he should be able to say sorry, i cannot cross this line. I can fault ManU because in order to swim with a pig, they jumped into murky waters to bring themselves to the level of a pig!

Matthew Syed: Shameless Mourinho and his clique not fit to inherit the club that Busby built
The Portuguese may bring success in the short term, but at what cost to United’s reputation?

Matthew Syed | Columnist of the Year May 23 2016, 12:01am, The Times
http://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/m...0 ... cd95fb971d

As the story has started, so it will continue. Speculation was rife last night that the leak which revealed that Louis van Gaal was to be sacked had come directly from the camp of his putative successor. Van Gaal was not even afforded the dignity of enjoying the sweetest moment of his tenure: winning the FA Cup.

But this is the crassness that Manchester United fans must get used to as a new clique readies itself to be installed at the helm of their club. Regardless of the source of the story, it has been clear for years that José Mourinho, the man who has cast such a long shadow over Old Trafford, and his advisers, such as the loathsome Jorge Mendes, have no conception of grace or honour.

In appointing Mourinho, the Manchester United board have taken a vast gamble. The wider context is worth considering, here. The United brand has undergone corrosion of late. The owners, capitalists in tooth and claw, have sweated the club for all it is worth, reaching deals with noodle companies, alcohol brands, casinos and big pharma. They have sucked millions from the club in dividends and debt repayments, although they also had the scope to invest £250 million in deals for new players.

But they know that the club requires success to retain their cachet. The problem with David Moyes was simple: poor results. With Van Gaal, the same problem was exemplified by a failure to reach the Champions League, such a crucial component of the club’s global aspirations, and compounded by a style that was altogether too regimented and lacking in flair. It is noteworthy that United’s total of 49 goals in the Premier League this season was the lowest for more than a quarter of a century.

So now, if the leak is to be believed, the United board have thrown their lot in with one of the few managers in football who can credibly claim the mantle “proven winner”. So desperate are the club for a man who can propel them into the Champions League that they have ridden roughshod over the concerns of some directors, who have witnessed the trail of destruction that Mourinho has left in his wake at every club he has touched.

It sets up the most fascinating of social experiments. United have one of the most powerful of histories. The Munich air disaster, the tragedy that brought a nation to a standstill, still resonates down the ages. The Busby Babes, the black and white photos of those young men, so proud to wear the club’s jersey, so tragically lost on a snowy runway, remain icons to a new generation of fans.

Sir Matt Busby, a Scot who understood the importance of community and philosophy, rebuilt the club from the ashes of the runway. He dared to believe that a club, a city, could be rejuvenated. The redemptive climax of the European Cup in 1968 (with players holding the trophy aloft who had themselves been rescued from the stricken jet) is a key reason why United have such a powerful mystique. The history and the present are intertwined.

Sir Alex Ferguson understood these traditions. He was by no means perfect (this column has chronicled his excesses) but he would peer down from his office at the Cliff training ground, aware that his young players were following in historic footsteps, always emphasising a philosophy of attacking football, of youth, of width and, most importantly, the pride in the shirt. “Under his leadership, United was not just a club,” Gary Neville told me. “We felt like part of a living history.”

When Ferguson left, the club faltered. He had been there so long, the club danced so completely to his inimitable beat, that perhaps this was inevitable. The club couldn’t disentangle themselves from the dynamics of his connection to their most basic functions, just as Wilf McGuinness and Frank O’Farrell faltered in the aftermath of Busby. This is one of the problems when an institution is run with absolutism. As one colleague put it: who ever heard of Attila the Second?

Given time, however, United would have rediscovered their mojo. A new manager, sufficiently separated in space and time from Ferguson, would have brought the club back to glory. But in appointing Mourinho, the board have taken a vast gamble. They are confident that the Portuguese will improve short-term results, but what then? I sense no appetite from fans to have a manager, even a moderately successful one, who brings the club into disrepute, as he surely will.

Do we need to list his shameless antics? Do we need to chronicle the stabbing of his finger into the eye of a rival manager, the impugning of ballboys, the allegations of bias against officials (in one case, leading to death threats against a referee), the insinuations of corruption against a rival club?

At Chelsea, the players got sick of him. Like most young men, they were initially intrigued by his vanity and swayed by his ludicrous claim that the world was against them, and that they had to fight to rectify this injustice. But eventually, just like the Real Madrid players — who witnessed him getting banished from the dugout during a Copa del Rey final, storming out of the stadium without collecting his loser’s medal from the King of Spain, and then insulting the referee again in the car park — they became ashamed. The Eva Carneiro incident — wherever the truth may lie — was, in many ways, the final straw.

Given his behaviour, it is almost an afterthought to mention the insistent worry that an astonishing number of Mourinho’s signings have gone through Mendes, who has engorged himself on the expenditure of his star client. According to a story from 2014, Mourinho had made at least 12 purchases through Mendes while at Chelsea, Real Madrid and Inter Milan. It will be interesting to see if the pattern repeats at United.

Where Busby created a dynasty, Mourinho is too immature to understand the concept. The United board are effectively trading the value of a short-term uplift in results on the risk of a man whose narcissistic tendencies shame football, and could contaminate the club’s reputation. For neutrals, the dynamics are going to prove intriguing. My hunch is that United fans will come to rue the appointment of a man who stole the limelight on the very day his predecessor won the FA Cup.

[Waffiman]

According to Matt Huges of The Times, Van Gaal will leave Manure with a pay-off of £4,554,000, plus a £400,000 bonus for winning the FA Cup. Every cloud, they say, has a silver lining.

When I read that purported statement from Van Gaal, after the shabby way he was treated, the first thing that comes to mind is his pay off cheque.

Of course, it pays to be professional. He will get another job in the EPL, if he wants in time.

[tfco]

handled poorly.

i am sure mendes leaked the info to the English press during the FA Cup game.

[Waffiman]

Absolutely shocking, the way LVG was treated by the British press, the man was ridiculed and hounded all season and he could not even enjoy his win. Every person deserves respect in the workplace. LVG deserves better treatment!

[anikulapo]

According to Matt Huges of The Times, Van Gaal will leave Manure with a pay-off of £4,554,000, plus a £400,000 bonus for winning the FA Cup. Every cloud, they say, has a silver lining.

When I read that purported statement from Van Gaal, after the shabby way he was treated, the first thing that comes to mind is his pay off cheque.

Of course, it pays to be professional. He will get another job in the EPL, if he wants in time.

I would have felt sorry for Van Gaal, but seeing how he treated some of the United players, including Judas, so shabbily as he forced them out ...well he deserves nothing less

[Waffiman]

According to Matt Huges of The Times, Van Gaal will leave Manure with a pay-off of £4,554,000, plus a £400,000 bonus for winning the FA Cup. Every cloud, they say, has a silver lining.

When I read that purported statement from Van Gaal, after the shabby way he was treated, the first thing that comes to mind is his pay off cheque.

Of course, it pays to be professional. He will get another job in the EPL, if he wants in time.

I would have felt sorry for Van Gaal, but seeing how he treated some of the United players, including Judas, so shabbily as he forced them out ...well he deserves nothing less

Just like judas treated Wenger.

I don't feel sorry for LVG, just highlighting the disgraceful behaviour of the protagonists in all of this.

[rasak74]

[rasak74]

Why are peeps so sure that Mourinho will win trophies at Man U
in short order? I think he is more likely NOT to produce immediate
results. It's not like Conte, Guardiola, Klopp and Wenger will be
twiddling their thumbs.

[danfo driver]

Why are peeps so sure that Mourinho will win trophies at Man U
in short order? I think he is more likely NOT to produce immediate
results. It's not like Conte, Guardiola, Klopp and Wenger will be
twiddling their thumbs.

all this slaps you guys are slapping wenger, didnt the mans wife just leave him? Abeg take am easy on the man

[Kabalega]

If JM could not win with the #ChelseaWinning squad what would he have done with a depleted ManU squad that LVG had to deal with all season?

[cic old boy]

the impugning of ballboys,

Borinho’s hypocrisy is on a level of its own.

[cchinukw]

Seriously there should be boundaries within which ambition should drive a man, i dont know what is going on here, but everything sounds and looks immoral. From Jose who it appears has allowed ambition to becloud his sense of decency, to Mendes who worships money and of course the Manchester united management who are treating a seasoned coach without respect with all the murky stuff going on in the background.

My brother, morality and football in the same sentence? This is a club owned by vulture capitalists and run for them by an investment banker. Their only interest is how much they can make. Once there was no CL football and all the money involved, Van Gaal was a goner.

Borinho and them are a marriage of convenience. He will bring them attention and high maintenance drama and possibly CL qualification. They will pay him megabucks and spend top dollar on Mendes’ players (making money for Mendes and Borinho). If there is success on the pitch, everybody is happy. If there isn’t, expect the drama of Borinho’s patented scorched earth policy.

The other people happy about this are the media. My Chelski supporting boss predicted that Borinho will take Manure to mid table next season.

My brother i know, i know , that is why my first attention was on Jose. While one may not be able to control corporate lusts and greed for profit, the individuals caught within it at least should be able to exercise some sense of decency. I cannot fault Mendes, he works within the system to make money, but i can fault Jose and ManU.

I can fault Jose because at the end of the day he should be able to say sorry, i cannot cross this line. I can fault ManU because in order to swim with a pig, they jumped into murky waters to bring themselves to the level of a pig!

Matthew Syed: Shameless Mourinho and his clique not fit to inherit the club that Busby built
The Portuguese may bring success in the short term, but at what cost to United’s reputation?

Matthew Syed | Columnist of the Year May 23 2016, 12:01am, The Times
http://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/m...0 ... cd95fb971d

As the story has started, so it will continue. Speculation was rife last night that the leak which revealed that Louis van Gaal was to be sacked had come directly from the camp of his putative successor. Van Gaal was not even afforded the dignity of enjoying the sweetest moment of his tenure: winning the FA Cup.

But this is the crassness that Manchester United fans must get used to as a new clique readies itself to be installed at the helm of their club. Regardless of the source of the story, it has been clear for years that José Mourinho, the man who has cast such a long shadow over Old Trafford, and his advisers, such as the loathsome Jorge Mendes, have no conception of grace or honour.

In appointing Mourinho, the Manchester United board have taken a vast gamble. The wider context is worth considering, here. The United brand has undergone corrosion of late. The owners, capitalists in tooth and claw, have sweated the club for all it is worth, reaching deals with noodle companies, alcohol brands, casinos and big pharma. They have sucked millions from the club in dividends and debt repayments, although they also had the scope to invest £250 million in deals for new players.

But they know that the club requires success to retain their cachet. The problem with David Moyes was simple: poor results. With Van Gaal, the same problem was exemplified by a failure to reach the Champions League, such a crucial component of the club’s global aspirations, and compounded by a style that was altogether too regimented and lacking in flair. It is noteworthy that United’s total of 49 goals in the Premier League this season was the lowest for more than a quarter of a century.

So now, if the leak is to be believed, the United board have thrown their lot in with one of the few managers in football who can credibly claim the mantle “proven winner”. So desperate are the club for a man who can propel them into the Champions League that they have ridden roughshod over the concerns of some directors, who have witnessed the trail of destruction that Mourinho has left in his wake at every club he has touched.

It sets up the most fascinating of social experiments. United have one of the most powerful of histories. The Munich air disaster, the tragedy that brought a nation to a standstill, still resonates down the ages. The Busby Babes, the black and white photos of those young men, so proud to wear the club’s jersey, so tragically lost on a snowy runway, remain icons to a new generation of fans.

Sir Matt Busby, a Scot who understood the importance of community and philosophy, rebuilt the club from the ashes of the runway. He dared to believe that a club, a city, could be rejuvenated. The redemptive climax of the European Cup in 1968 (with players holding the trophy aloft who had themselves been rescued from the stricken jet) is a key reason why United have such a powerful mystique. The history and the present are intertwined.

Sir Alex Ferguson understood these traditions. He was by no means perfect (this column has chronicled his excesses) but he would peer down from his office at the Cliff training ground, aware that his young players were following in historic footsteps, always emphasising a philosophy of attacking football, of youth, of width and, most importantly, the pride in the shirt. “Under his leadership, United was not just a club,” Gary Neville told me. “We felt like part of a living history.”

When Ferguson left, the club faltered. He had been there so long, the club danced so completely to his inimitable beat, that perhaps this was inevitable. The club couldn’t disentangle themselves from the dynamics of his connection to their most basic functions, just as Wilf McGuinness and Frank O’Farrell faltered in the aftermath of Busby. This is one of the problems when an institution is run with absolutism. As one colleague put it: who ever heard of Attila the Second?

Given time, however, United would have rediscovered their mojo. A new manager, sufficiently separated in space and time from Ferguson, would have brought the club back to glory. But in appointing Mourinho, the board have taken a vast gamble. They are confident that the Portuguese will improve short-term results, but what then? I sense no appetite from fans to have a manager, even a moderately successful one, who brings the club into disrepute, as he surely will.

Do we need to list his shameless antics? Do we need to chronicle the stabbing of his finger into the eye of a rival manager, the impugning of ballboys, the allegations of bias against officials (in one case, leading to death threats against a referee), the insinuations of corruption against a rival club?

At Chelsea, the players got sick of him. Like most young men, they were initially intrigued by his vanity and swayed by his ludicrous claim that the world was against them, and that they had to fight to rectify this injustice. But eventually, just like the Real Madrid players — who witnessed him getting banished from the dugout during a Copa del Rey final, storming out of the stadium without collecting his loser’s medal from the King of Spain, and then insulting the referee again in the car park — they became ashamed. The Eva Carneiro incident — wherever the truth may lie — was, in many ways, the final straw.

Given his behaviour, it is almost an afterthought to mention the insistent worry that an astonishing number of Mourinho’s signings have gone through Mendes, who has engorged himself on the expenditure of his star client. According to a story from 2014, Mourinho had made at least 12 purchases through Mendes while at Chelsea, Real Madrid and Inter Milan. It will be interesting to see if the pattern repeats at United.

Where Busby created a dynasty, Mourinho is too immature to understand the concept. The United board are effectively trading the value of a short-term uplift in results on the risk of a man whose narcissistic tendencies shame football, and could contaminate the club’s reputation. For neutrals, the dynamics are going to prove intriguing. My hunch is that United fans will come to rue the appointment of a man who stole the limelight on the very day his predecessor won the FA Cup.

I am glad that the British media are now recognising the poisoned chalice that is Mourinho.

The novelty has now worn off.

Even Chelsea is still cast in this braggart's shadow. Tufiakwa!!