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one or 2 nice touches, the boy is no doubt a very good player, people should give him a break



I think it is high time we wake up and smell the coffee about this youngster.

As far as i am concerned he is no player that can and turn a game around.
To me he looks like an ordinary English player who just passes the ball around as soon as he gets it.

I have not seen what i saw during the YWC since he arrived in England or in Naija jersey.

Too much noise as been made about him.

SE will not miss him even if he is not called back into the team.

The bobo should go and take a look at the player he was a runners up to in the YWC (Messi).
The bobo is improving everyday plus you look forward to see him play. He is a player you look for his name on a team list but not Obi.

Until he grows or shows me that he can be a world class player, I am not going to be paying much attention to him.

He is nothing like nice looking woman or sisi (young lady) that will make you turn your head around to shadow her again on the street.



Best Assessment on John Mikel Obi.

I am shocked some fellow members talk of One or Two Touches or Passes in a game.

How does that translate to anything or relevant to anything.

Any player on any team on any level WILL MAKE ONE OR TWO GOOD PASSES OR TOUCHES IN A 90 MIn GaME.


What in the world are you talking about? We are talking defense splitting passes that destabilize the opposing defense and put your teammate(s) in a dangerous position to score or provide a scoring opportunity. This is not done by any old player so stop talking bullocks. Players like Zidane, JJ, Figo, Riquelme, Rui Costa are in there to provide one or two of these kind of passes/opportunities for the team and with good forwards ahead of them they'll score one or two goals. As we know soccer is a low scoring game, so these defense splitting opportunities are few and far between, but a player who has an eye for these types of passes is definitely special. And Mikel has a knack for these kinds of balls. Even in the 4-1 massacre Obi set up at least 2 one on one situations which were not converted with a slick pass or a flick of the ball over the defenders head into an attackers path. You guys just expect him to dribble everybody like Messi does, first of all thats not his game, second of all in Chelsea's setup ONLY the wingers do that.

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blueangel wrote:
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one or 2 nice touches, the boy is no doubt a very good player, people should give him a break



I think it is high time we wake up and smell the coffee about this youngster.

As far as i am concerned he is no player that can and turn a game around.
To me he looks like an ordinary English player who just passes the ball around as soon as he gets it.

I have not seen what i saw during the YWC since he arrived in England or in Naija jersey.

Too much noise as been made about him.

SE will not miss him even if he is not called back into the team.

The bobo should go and take a look at the player he was a runners up to in the YWC (Messi).
The bobo is improving everyday plus you look forward to see him play. He is a player you look for his name on a team list but not Obi.

Until he grows or shows me that he can be a world class player, I am not going to be paying much attention to him.

He is nothing like nice looking woman or sisi (young lady) that will make you turn your head around to shadow her again on the street.



Best Assessment on John Mikel Obi.

I am shocked some fellow members talk of One or Two Touches or Passes in a game.

How does that translate to anything or relevant to anything.

Any player on any team on any level WILL MAKE ONE OR TWO GOOD PASSES OR TOUCHES IN A 90 MIn GaME.


What in the world are you talking about? We are talking defense splitting passes that destabilize the opposing defense and put your teammate(s) in a dangerous position to score or provide a scoring opportunity. This is not done by any old player so stop talking bullocks. Players like Zidane, JJ, Figo, Riquelme, Rui Costa are in there to provide one or two of these kind of passes/opportunities for the team and with good forwards ahead of them they'll score one or two goals. As we know soccer is a low scoring game, so these defense splitting opportunities are few and far between, but a player who has an eye for these types of passes is definitely special. And Mikel has a knack for these kinds of balls. Even in the 4-1 massacre Obi set up at least 2 one on one situations which were not converted with a slick pass or a flick of the ball over the defenders head into an attackers path. You guys just expect him to dribble everybody like Messi does, first of all thats not his game, second of all in Chelsea's setup ONLY the wingers do that.

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Another year, another Chelsea - Manchester Community Plate ... I think Obi had a good game this year. A very good game at that - good positioning, good passing ... not doing too much, but doing the simple things well. My only concern (and we do over-analyze all things Mikel Obi related) is that the boy don gain small wait ... he should be careful with that weight.

If this game is a sign of things to come, I want this guy to definitely play as he did today - forceful and hard.

On a side note, I noticed that Patrice Evra was doing abgaro on the field, and I remembered that Osaze showed him that khaki is not leather during the France game ... it is games like this that show me that Odemwingie is and EPL caliber type of player.


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Wow! :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock:
So Maceo was once a staunch Mikel advocate. Or was he being sarcastic?

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Wow! :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock:
So Maceo was once a staunch Mikel advocate. Or was he being sarcastic?


Nah man no sarcasm, I used to defend Mikel to high heavens seeing him as "talent" I expected him to fulfill that talent and expectation and show at the last ANC that he's come far, and the disappointment that I came to realize in that tournament was just too much. I couldn't allow people to keep on overhyping someone who was not ready to up his game to the level that is needed or take responsibility. Obi is comfortable being a sideways players and I just can't support his overhyping anymore. He can have all the talent in the world but as long as he doesn't express it on the field it means absolutely nothing.

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2 years has passed
JMO still has not changed or improved his shooting

it time for Amodu to play him like how he plays for his club

in front of the back 4

and find other options to supply our strikers

it clear SE mid-field needs a hanger and constant pass master /
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2 years on no real improvement, its the same ol....the truth is that we are still searching for a World class midfield player...

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In my opinion, Obi was rather average.He struggled to keep up with the pace of the game. I don't think he's fully fit at the moment.

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In my opinion, Obi was rather average.He struggled to keep up with the pace of the game. I don't think he's fully fit at the moment.


I don't think its fitness, he just had a poor game and needs to work hard to get better.

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Yesterday Manchester and Chelsea played for the Community Plate ... I look game small. Obi missed one glancing header and strung some nice passes. I have to ask one question ~ Is Mikel Obi a scoring threat against really good competition? He can pass, but to score goal I no dey see am.


Ironically, Mikel has always played very well against ManU, but yesterday he was off the pace and overall did not play well. No big deal. Lamps was subbed out at the Camp Nou. Essien barely lasted 60mins during FA Cup finals and Ballack has been yanked a few times as well. If you are off your game, the coach should yank you from the game. He should shake it off, get back to training and get ready for the next game. There will be 60 games to play. As long as he starts over half (assuming he's injury free) and gets picked in most of the big games, he's good to go. Such is the life in a big club.

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i think Mikel looked very tired yesterday .. there was even a time Essien kind of demanded more from him..Maybe Mikel don dey kain him shewen too much.. he played like a player who don gbesh tire the night before

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2drama wrote:
2 years has passed
JMO still has not changed or improved his shooting

it time for Amodu to play him like how he plays for his club

in front of the back 4

and find other options to supply our strikers

it clear SE mid-field needs a hanger and constant pass master /
ball sprayer


it seems so logical doesnt it

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This Obi / Essien Comparison is beginning to get to me and have refuse to partake in any discussion as to which of them played better at the end of every game. I will only partake in such a discussion if we are assessing the whole team and the opposition. That is it the time such an analysis will make sense. There are a lot of people in both teams yesterday who played worse than obi and essien.

I wish all west Africans plying their trade in the EPL all the best. A good footballer can come from any country. Pele is Brazilian, Carlos Valderama is Colombian, George Best in northern Irish, Titi Camara is Guinean, Georgre Weah is Liberian, Roger Milla is Cameroonian a good footballer can come from any country.
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This Obi / Essien Comparison is beginning to get to me and have refuse to partake in any discussion as to which of them played better at the end of every game. I will only partake in such a discussion if we are assessing the whole team and the opposition. That is it the time such an analysis will make sense. There are a lot of people in both teams yesterday who played worse than obi and essien.

I wish all west Africans plying their trade in the EPL all the best. A good footballer can come from any country. Pele is Brazilian, Carlos Valderama is Colombian, George Best in northern Irish, Titi Camara is Guinean, Georgre Weah is Liberian, Roger Milla is Cameroonian a good footballer can come from any country.
Obi is what he is ...Essien is Essien!


I agree with you, Essien is much much much better! In fact he had to be sent in to clean up Obi's mess yesterday!

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This Obi / Essien Comparison is beginning to get to me and have refuse to partake in any discussion as to which of them played better at the end of every game. I will only partake in such a discussion if we are assessing the whole team and the opposition. That is it the time such an analysis will make sense. There are a lot of people in both teams yesterday who played worse than obi and essien.

I wish all west Africans plying their trade in the EPL all the best. A good footballer can come from any country. Pele is Brazilian, Carlos Valderama is Colombian, George Best in northern Irish, Titi Camara is Guinean, Georgre Weah is Liberian, Roger Milla is Cameroonian a good footballer can come from any country.
Obi is what he is ...Essien is Essien!


I agree with you, Essien is much much much better! In fact he had to be sent in to clean up Obi's mess yesterday!


I have not seen Essien between the sticks but I know he can play every single outfied position better than Mikel.... :lol: :lol:

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This Obi / Essien Comparison is beginning to get to me and have refuse to partake in any discussion as to which of them played better at the end of every game. I will only partake in such a discussion if we are assessing the whole team and the opposition. That is it the time such an analysis will make sense. There are a lot of people in both teams yesterday who played worse than obi and essien.

I wish all west Africans plying their trade in the EPL all the best. A good footballer can come from any country. Pele is Brazilian, Carlos Valderama is Colombian, George Best in northern Irish, Titi Camara is Guinean, Georgre Weah is Liberian, Roger Milla is Cameroonian a good footballer can come from any country.
Obi is what he is ...Essien is Essien!


I agree with you, Essien is much much much better! In fact he had to be sent in to clean up Obi's mess yesterday!


I have not seen Essien between the sticks but I know he can play every single outfied position better than Mikel.... :lol: :lol:


the sad thing is that its so true .. :boo:

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maceo4 wrote:
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This Obi / Essien Comparison is beginning to get to me and have refuse to partake in any discussion as to which of them played better at the end of every game. I will only partake in such a discussion if we are assessing the whole team and the opposition. That is it the time such an analysis will make sense. There are a lot of people in both teams yesterday who played worse than obi and essien.

I wish all west Africans plying their trade in the EPL all the best. A good footballer can come from any country. Pele is Brazilian, Carlos Valderama is Colombian, George Best in northern Irish, Titi Camara is Guinean, Georgre Weah is Liberian, Roger Milla is Cameroonian a good footballer can come from any country.
Obi is what he is ...Essien is Essien!


I agree with you, Essien is much much much better! In fact he had to be sent in to clean up Obi's mess yesterday!


Bobo tok say him no want comparison! You come agree wif am by comparing. Naija :lol:


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maceo4 wrote:
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This Obi / Essien Comparison is beginning to get to me and have refuse to partake in any discussion as to which of them played better at the end of every game. I will only partake in such a discussion if we are assessing the whole team and the opposition. That is it the time such an analysis will make sense. There are a lot of people in both teams yesterday who played worse than obi and essien.

I wish all west Africans plying their trade in the EPL all the best. A good footballer can come from any country. Pele is Brazilian, Carlos Valderama is Colombian, George Best in northern Irish, Titi Camara is Guinean, Georgre Weah is Liberian, Roger Milla is Cameroonian a good footballer can come from any country.
Obi is what he is ...Essien is Essien!


I agree with you, Essien is much much much better! In fact he had to be sent in to clean up Obi's mess yesterday!


Bobo tok say him no want comparison! You come agree wif am by comparing. Naija :lol:


HEHEHEE :thumbs: :thumbs: :thumbs:

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maceo4 wrote:
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This Obi / Essien Comparison is beginning to get to me and have refuse to partake in any discussion as to which of them played better at the end of every game. I will only partake in such a discussion if we are assessing the whole team and the opposition. That is it the time such an analysis will make sense. There are a lot of people in both teams yesterday who played worse than obi and essien.

I wish all west Africans plying their trade in the EPL all the best. A good footballer can come from any country. Pele is Brazilian, Carlos Valderama is Colombian, George Best in northern Irish, Titi Camara is Guinean, Georgre Weah is Liberian, Roger Milla is Cameroonian a good footballer can come from any country.
Obi is what he is ...Essien is Essien!


I agree with you, Essien is much much much better! In fact he had to be sent in to clean up Obi's mess yesterday!


Bobo tok say him no want comparison! You come agree wif am by comparing. Naija :lol:


Na Ghana man so I know what he actually meant to say so I agree with am :thumb:

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He lost the ball in dangerous areas far too many times. On the upside he is finally becoming a man and standing up for himself (unlike Joseph " im sorry Thierry" Yobo :roll: ). football is a mans game and should not be played by scared litlle kids. Obi has finally learnt that he is a man.

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With all the side passes and back passes...People better start waking up...there's hardly anything creative about the boys play.

Atleast he is winning medals and he integral part of a great team. I love JJ but he was not a great Midfielder he wasn't even in premiership top ten foriegn players while the likes of Viera and Keane are comfortable entry.

Let the guy develop his defensive ability but when he plays for Nigeria we make him more offensive
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Sia one - Please whisper to Amoudu how best to use Obi if he 'll listen. I don't care how Chelsea uses him. That's his bread and butter job. SE sure needs the Obi we saw at the U-20 tournament play the same role.

Don't let's fool ourselves, Obi can't play in front of the back 4 for the SE. There are better and stronger enforcers - Ayila, Olofin. Etuhu, Kaita.

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Sia one - Please whisper to Amoudu how best to use Obi if he 'll listen. I don't care how Chelsea uses him. That's his bread and butter job. SE sure needs the Obi we saw at the U-20 tournament play the same role.

Don't let's fool ourselves, Obi can't play in front of the back 4 for the SE. There are better and stronger enforcers - Ayila, Olofin. Etuhu, Kaita.



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