Klinsman just kept it real on USA (ESPN)

[goke313]

Are you serious? Does the USA basketball team not get support at the Olympics?

Real question, If the entire US soccer national team was full of Blacks and Hispanics will it get the same support from the same demographics who supported today's US team at the world cup?

honestly no....

interested in hearing some responses

support...yes
same support...no

[nanijoe]

So who do you think got more support..the USA basketball team to the Olympics or the Soccer team to the World Cup?

Are you serious? Does the USA basketball team not get support at the Olympics?

Real question, If the entire US soccer national team was full of Blacks and Hispanics will it get the same support from the same demographics who supported today's US team at the world cup?

honestly no....

interested in hearing some responses

support...yes
same support...no

[goke313]

US reaction to the loss

http://twitpic.com/20havd

[mate]

Them players are already in the pipeline but they still cannot compeat globally, because soccer is a street sports, academies cannot teach improvisations and the collective unconscious thuggery that the developing nations bring

You couldn't be more right. Even European nations are shooting themselves in the foot with so called academy football. The best players are indeed arrogant, cunning, and confident thugs. You don't learn that being nicely told how to shoot, trap, and position while a smiling fool of a coach draws Xs and Os on a white board...with mom smiling in the background.

Players learn best on beaches, parks, and streets, complementing this with some league competition.

Cheers, Mate

[Mr. Piffington]

US reaction to the loss

http://twitpic.com/20havd

We knew that was coming, didn't we?

They need to quit whining about how "stupid" the sport is. If they don't like it then they shouldn't participate. I'm sure the "sport" will do just fine with out without the US.

[goke313]

So who do you think got more support..the USA basketball team to the Olympics or the Soccer team to the World Cup?

Are you serious? Does the USA basketball team not get support at the Olympics?

Real question, If the entire US soccer national team was full of Blacks and Hispanics will it get the same support from the same demographics who supported today's US team at the world cup?

honestly no....

interested in hearing some responses

support...yes
same support...no

US Soccer team....based on media coverage and 'water cooler talk'

[spurs]

And Lalas needs to show more respect to Ghana. He keeps saying 'this is Ghana', like Ghana have no pedigree on world stage. People like Lalas do not fail to show their ignorance about global footie

Saw that too! That guy is full of himself, and doesn't know what he is talking about. "This is Ghana" indeed. Well his team is going back home!

This is Ghana. Yes, well anyone that knows anything about world football knows that you don't play with Ghana. They are a good side. Its like saying oh this is Egypt. Well you do it at your peril. Lalas and the others think Ghana is Guyana, they don't know who they even played. On paper the Ghanian team is more talented. It has more players at big clubs in Europe and has won more titles than the Americans. Even if Ghana plays Australia, Slovenia, Belguim, Norway, Bulgeria, and Romania, I really expect them to win. As I expect Nigeria to win those games as well. Lalas and co think African teams are like West Indian teams like Jamaica. They don't know they are behind us and the victory was not an upset.

It wasn't an upset Lalas.... to the people who know Ghana was supposed to win.

So much for scouting and knowing your enemy.

[GIN]

Real question, If the entire US soccer national team was full of Blacks and Hispanics will it get the same support from the same demographics who supported today's US team at the world cup?

Olympic Basketball.
Olympic and Professional Boxing.
Track and Field.

[ogasir]

@Maddock, Humility is not in our vocab.
The question now is, who is going to keep it REAL ON NIGERIA?

I don't think I was being arrogant. I am just pointing out that people who do the same thing as Lalas should not be pointing fingers.

@ ogasir stfu yo damn self. Mugu.

Well Maddog. I have noticed a pattern in your posts. You always seem to portray Nigeria as the aggressor and Ghana as the victim, you are not fooling anyone. Everything you accuse Nigeria of, Ghana is equally guilty of.

[JACKAL]

And Lalas needs to show more respect to Ghana. He keeps saying 'this is Ghana', like Ghana have no pedigree on world stage. People like Lalas do not fail to show their ignorance about global footie

It was indeed on of the stupidest things said and i was surprised Kinsman chimed in support for that sentiment.. They convienently forget all of Ghanas laurels in junior football and the african championships and even the olympics not to talk of all the quality players over the years. I guess they are just begining to see Ghana becuase they have only played 2 senior world cups....

BTW, klinsan is the only one that makes any sence on that panel... lalas is just annoying, the other English guys views is too English centric....

[KB]

I like Klinsmann. He came across as a level headed person with deep knowledge not only of the game but of the way things need to be run.
He oozes confidence and wisdom. Quite a difference from a petulant and 'juvenile' Lalas.

[goke313]

I would not mind Klinsmann coaching our SE...but i doubt he'll accept such a job

[Mudi E]

Real question, If the entire US soccer national team was full of Blacks and Hispanics will it get the same support from the same demographics who supported today's US team at the world cup?

YES...only if they're winninig. The U.S. likes to associate themselves with winners.

[mcal]

Told the US they need to really assess the quality of their players. They are the only country that have the pyramid upside down. Their players get into soccer for college scholarship instead of having a view to play professional footy. He said for them to be successful they need to treat it like basketball and engage the communities of the poor and working class. He also said they need to try things like engaging the Hispanic community in the US.

...black Americans will never embrace soccer, to them "it does not pay as much as basketball, football, or baseball" that is the arguement i have heard most times apart from "it's a boring game" shiit excuse.

[mcal]

I like Klinsmann. He came across as a level headed person with deep knowledge not only of the game but of the way things need to be run.
He oozes confidence and wisdom. Quite a difference from a petulant and 'juvenile' Lalas.

...he have to, he's employed by an American tv station and he lives in America. It's called being diplomatic while getting ur paycheck.

[mcal]

Them players are already in the pipeline but they still cannot compeat globally, because soccer is a street sports, academies cannot teach improvisations and the collective unconscious thuggery that the developing nations bring

You couldn't be more right. Even European nations are shooting themselves in the foot with so called academy football. The best players are indeed arrogant, cunning, and confident thugs. You don't learn that being nicely told how to shoot, trap, and position while a smiling fool of a coach draws Xs and Os on a white board...with mom smiling in the background.

Players learn best on beaches, parks, and streets, complementing this with some league competition.

Cheers, Mate

...i don't think professional sports approach in the USA will ever change from the current process of high school college to pro, the rest of the world can do how the wish the yanks will continue their way, it has worked in other sports and will work for soccer. Remember, this step is taken to give and encourage kids to stay in school.

[maddock]

@Maddock, Humility is not in our vocab.
The question now is, who is going to keep it REAL ON NIGERIA?

I don't think I was being arrogant. I am just pointing out that people who do the same thing as Lalas should not be pointing fingers.

@ ogasir stfu yo damn self. Mugu.

Well Maddog. I have noticed a pattern in your posts. You always seem to portray Nigeria as the aggressor and Ghana as the victim, you are not fooling anyone. Everything you accuse Nigeria of, Ghana is equally guilty of.

I also noticed a pattern of slowness in your understanding ablity when you start making assumptions. Where did I refer specifically to Nigeria? Did I not say CE and are CE not made up of different nationalities as opposed to only Nigerians. Man shut up if it is above your level.

[Man Ataye]

You dey mind peeps..and some were aying england to the semis?? i beg whosai..make we hia...I am stilll waiting to be inpressed.

Klinsman also said ... USA doesn't have players with a quality first touch ... Why didn't he say the same thing about England? England doesn't have a single player, whose first touch is decent.
When you rely on players like Lampard, Gerard, Barry to be your play maker ... and Defoe??? Rooney???

At this stage, if you don't have the basics of soccer (first touch) you have no chance. USA found out, England found out.
Bepanda

[ElHadary]

US is Ghana's wifey