Super Eagles Faro camp in disarray

Naija fan · Post by **Naija fan** » Fri Jan 16, 2004 7:31 pm

This story reads like the writer is making it up as they write.

RudeBoy · Post by **RudeBoy** » Fri Jan 16, 2004 7:31 pm

Yeah Whatever!!

Can we now look forward in eager anticipation to the ANC!!! Go Eagles Go!

Post by **Waffiman** » Fri Jan 16, 2004 7:32 pm

RudeBoy wrote:Yeah Whatever!!

Can we now looked forward in eager anticipation to the ANC!!! Go Eagles Go!

No worry, you go soon dey cry.

RudeBoy · Post by **RudeBoy** » Fri Jan 16, 2004 7:36 pm

Waffi, It won't be the first or last time I'd cry for the Eagles! Still doesn't mean I don't or won't support them! But I get the vibe here that quite a few of you actually want Nigeria to fail!

shaq · Post by **shaq** » Fri Jan 16, 2004 7:37 pm

omey2k4 wrote:The most insulted players are the homebased players,they do alll the dirty work only for the pros to come withtheir ego and spoile everything up.

That is why these home-based can't wait to go abroad, even if it is China or Dubai. They then come back after half a season and behave like big boiz (blowing fake grammar even when they don't speak English in that country).

Gotti · Post by **Gotti** » Fri Jan 16, 2004 7:39 pm

RudeBoy wrote:Waffi, It won't be the first or last time I'd cry for the Eagles! Still doesn't mean I don't or won't support them! But I get the vibe here that quite a few of you actually want Nigeria to fail!

RUDEBOY:
Trust me, it is more than a "vibe"!

Gotti · Post by **Gotti** » Fri Jan 16, 2004 7:42 pm

Sir V wrote:
Gotti wrote:
oluwaseye the 1st. wrote:The story is more of garbage than facts.
JUNK Journalism -- with a capital "J"!
Gooti,

I am sure it was Ade Oheikere!

SIR V:
I would not be shocked if it was!

Vincent. · Post by **Vincent.** » Fri Jan 16, 2004 7:43 pm

RudeBoy wrote:Waffi, It won't be the first or last time I'd cry for the Eagles! Still doesn't mean I don't or won't support them! But I get the vibe here that quite a few of you actually want Nigeria to fail!

If failure is what it will take for us to get our acts toghether, then so be it.

Its a Goal · Post by **Its a Goal** » Fri Jan 16, 2004 7:43 pm

IK, this is "news" just dropped the credibility of your site big time. To be taken serious, you have to produce concrete and tangible facts, not rumours and inuendos. Provide names of players revolting, provide names of your sources or at least position within the team.

ofilis · Post by **ofilis** » Fri Jan 16, 2004 8:45 pm

Its a Goal wrote:IK, this is "news" just dropped the credibility of your site big time. To be taken serious, you have to produce concrete and tangible facts, not rumours and inuendos. Provide names of players revolting, provide names of your sources or at least position within the team.

Its a Goal:
I think it is apparent that the story of Eagles' camp being in "Disarray" is concocted. When journalists want to "Do you in”, they often resort to nameless sources and analysts.

RudeBoy · Post by **RudeBoy** » Fri Jan 16, 2004 8:48 pm

Vincent. wrote:
RudeBoy wrote:Waffi, It won't be the first or last time I'd cry for the Eagles! Still doesn't mean I don't or won't support them! But I get the vibe here that quite a few of you actually want Nigeria to fail!
If failure is what it will take for us to get our acts toghether, then so be it.

I can't believe you actually want the Eagles to fail!

Its a Goal · Post by **Its a Goal** » Fri Jan 16, 2004 8:56 pm

[color=brown]ofilis[/color] wrote:
[color=brown]Its a Goal[/color] wrote:IK, this is "news" just dropped the credibility of your site big time. To be taken serious, you have to produce concrete and tangible facts, not rumours and inuendos. Provide names of players revolting, provide names of your sources or at least position within the team.
Its a Goal:
I think it is apparent that the story of Eagles' camp being in "Disarray" is concocted. When journalists want to "Do you in”, they often resort to nameless sources and analysts.

But the thing is that is a brand new website which I think IK is partly responsible for. It is suppose to rival KON in content and authencity of stories they carry. This "news" just destroyed any credibility they were trying to build with fans.

sunshinestar · Post by **sunshinestar** » Fri Jan 16, 2004 10:01 pm

Gotti wrote:
oluwaseye the 1st. wrote:The story is more of garbage than facts.
JUNK Journalism -- with a capital "J"!

With the way some guys argue here they are worse than junk journalists!

wawa · Post by **wawa** » Fri Jan 16, 2004 10:29 pm

Ikwereman, it really sounds like your story was written on the beach in Tahiti. Forgive me but it sounds like heresay. If you are really sending your posts from Tahiti (i would sure envy you) beware of those tall drinks served with fruit garnishes. They sure can mess with your analytical skills.

Vincent. · Post by **Vincent.** » Fri Jan 16, 2004 10:31 pm

RudeBoy wrote:
Vincent. wrote:
RudeBoy wrote:Waffi, It won't be the first or last time I'd cry for the Eagles! Still doesn't mean I don't or won't support them! But I get the vibe here that quite a few of you actually want Nigeria to fail!
If failure is what it will take for us to get our acts toghether, then so be it.
I can't believe you actually want the Eagles to fail!

As I said before, if failure is the only thing that will wake us up, then it would be a good thing.

Failure to prepare is preparation to fail. We have not prepared well, so I will not be surprised by anything.

We had this same discussion before the World Cup in Japan, but we have not learned our lesson from that failure because people are continue to claim that we did not fail because we used the World Cup to "build a foundation," which has since been eroded by the lightest of rain showers.

It is this attirude that prevents the entire country from making progress.

Post by **Cellular** » Fri Jan 16, 2004 10:41 pm

The funny thing is that when Oliseh insisted on Udeze over Babayaro since the later was notorious for playing the Baboon (after Monkey don work finish), the same pipul accused him of making team selections...

Where is the team captain, Okocha?

Doing what he does best, trying not to rock the boat...

You think if he was in camp he would have fought for the players that were wrongfully dropped? How can he? He is one of the culprits...

ofilis · Post by **ofilis** » Fri Jan 16, 2004 11:12 pm

Cellular wrote:The funny thing is that when Oliseh insisted on Udeze over Babayaro since the later was notorious for playing the Baboon (after Monkey don work finish), the same pipul accused him of making team selections...

Where is the team captain, Okocha?

Doing what he does best, trying not to rock the boat...

You think if he was in camp he would have fought for the players that were wrongfully dropped? How can he? He is one of the culprits...

Cellular:
Spot on. We are very funny people.

Gotti · Post by **Gotti** » Sat Jan 17, 2004 12:11 am

sunshinestar wrote:
Gotti wrote:
oluwaseye the 1st. wrote:The story is more of garbage than facts.
JUNK Journalism -- with a capital "J"!
With the way some guys argue here they are worse than junk journalists!

SUNSHINESTAR:
Since you address this to me, I will keep it succint: the DIFFERENCE is that we are not journalists purporting to report the news (and effectively defend the public trust). We are mere football FANS voicing our opinions (for whatever it is worth -- often not a whole lot) on a discussion forum where every Tola, Dike and Haruna (assuming that is in fact their real names) can sign in and spout off!

It is when some of YOUR pals herein forget that this is merely a fansite that all manner of discord and problems usually crop up.

RudeBoy · Post by **RudeBoy** » Sat Jan 17, 2004 12:25 am

Gotti: And that is where the problem is here most of the time: Some think that this is more than merely a fansite!

Enugu II · Post by **Enugu II** » Sat Jan 17, 2004 4:13 am

Its a Goal wrote:IK, this is "news" just dropped the credibility of your site big time. To be taken serious, you have to produce concrete and tangible facts, not rumours and inuendos. Provide names of players revolting, provide names of your sources or at least position within the team.

I must say I felt the same way after reading that story in Ikwerreman's site. It was so aberrant compared to stories about camp in other papers (including those that had journalists in Faro) and from other reports. To say that it was a huge disappointing reading is to say the least. It is one thing to be angered by the selection of the team but quite another to try to create a story that appeared to be based on mere imagination.

ikwerreman · Post by **ikwerreman** » Sat Jan 17, 2004 1:10 pm

I felt thie same way some of you here feel about the story in question and i have taken time to read all your views on that report.

I have put a call through to the writer of the story and he swears his sources are genuine and the story is not a figment of his imagination.

I am waiting for feedback and when it comes you guys may get an idea of what really went on in the camp that generated that story.

Cheers

Lowen Brau · Post by **Lowen Brau** » Sat Jan 17, 2004 1:17 pm

Vincent. wrote:This is what happens when a coach has no settled team.

When CCC spend 1.5 years "building a home-based, back-up team" without actually succeeding in building one those of us who talked were sometimes yabbed.

Under "civilized" conditions, a camp like this (taking place two weeks before the tournament) should be used to select back-up players to (like the third striker, etc) and perfect tactics for our first-round opponents.

However, because Chukwu has no team, he had to invite millions of players to camp and try to sellect 22.

It is logical that people are now crying foul because it is difficult for them to understand the basis on which players are now being selected. If Chukwu had a team players would have known long ago where they stood and there would have been less confusion and confrontation.

I do not see your point. CCC invited less talented home-based players to Faro until he was sure who was definitely coming and who was not. He then deselected those who could not make the 22 player list. What is wrong with that? Those deselected still have future opportunities to play for SE. The young shall grow,

Enugu II · Post by **Enugu II** » Sat Jan 17, 2004 2:28 pm

Lowen Brau wrote:
Vincent. wrote:This is what happens when a coach has no settled team.

When CCC spend 1.5 years "building a home-based, back-up team" without actually succeeding in building one those of us who talked were sometimes yabbed.

Under "civilized" conditions, a camp like this (taking place two weeks before the tournament) should be used to select back-up players to (like the third striker, etc) and perfect tactics for our first-round opponents.

However, because Chukwu has no team, he had to invite millions of players to camp and try to sellect 22.

It is logical that people are now crying foul because it is difficult for them to understand the basis on which players are now being selected. If Chukwu had a team players would have known long ago where they stood and there would have been less confusion and confrontation.

I do not see your point. CCC invited less talented home-based players to Faro until he was sure who was definitely coming and who was not. He then deselected those who could not make the 22 player list. What is wrong with that? Those deselected still have future opportunities to play for SE. The young shall grow,

Vincent:

Which confusion? I will not exactly characterize the questions surrounding the non-selection of one player (Obodo) as "confusion". The other non-selections are basically understaood considering various other circumstances.

Btw, the "home-based" idea has more than met its goal. Imagine the fact that you have two homebased players in the squad to Tunis. Imagine that two others in that squad were selected while being homebased. Imagine that you read no stories like "only two players were training under four coaches with one week into Faro camp." The above are part of the reasons why continuing to have a homebased squad is the way to go. I have not added that it is that same homebased squad that allowed Nigeria to meet several international friendly commitments when the :big boys" turned down invitations.