Re: Messi is nothing but a club footballer
Posted: Sun Jul 05, 2015 12:40 am
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Geez no offense but you are applying backward logic here .... Champions and league cups are more cherished than FA Cups..nobody will give a damn about FA cup if you are winning league and Champion. Zidane dominating and winning World Cup and European Cup for France means more than any stuff he did with his club. The Priority goes (descending order)kalani JR wrote:If they win the Champions League and League but lose the FA Cup are they still chokers?dizzle wrote:kalani JR wrote:If Man United wins the FA Cup and League and fails in the league cup are they chokers?tfco wrote:then the 'lower level' international football should be a breeze abi.kalani JR wrote:You say club player like it's a derogatory term, when the highest level of football is played at club level.
Let's call it as it is..this was a choke job by Argentina, including Messi. If Man U are perennial winners of FA Cup and EPL and don't live up to the occasion when they get to the big stage of UEFA Champions League...then they may be considered chokers/jokers.
Champions League is the highest level of football there is in the world let's get this straight here.dizzle wrote:Geez no offense but you are applying backward logic here .... Champions and league cups are more cherished than FA Cups..nobody will give a damn about FA cup if you are winning league and Champion. Zidane dominating and winning World Cup and European Cup for France means more than any stuff he did with his club. The Priority goes (descending order)kalani JR wrote:If they win the Champions League and League but lose the FA Cup are they still chokers?dizzle wrote:kalani JR wrote:If Man United wins the FA Cup and League and fails in the league cup are they chokers?tfco wrote:then the 'lower level' international football should be a breeze abi.kalani JR wrote:You say club player like it's a derogatory term, when the highest level of football is played at club level.
Let's call it as it is..this was a choke job by Argentina, including Messi. If Man U are perennial winners of FA Cup and EPL and don't live up to the occasion when they get to the big stage of UEFA Champions League...then they may be considered chokers/jokers.
World Cup
Euro cup/Nations Cup/Copa America
Champions League
league
FA cup
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tfco wrote:
Kid, learn to reason. The World Cup is like the FA Cup in your eyes? Let me help you out.kalani JR wrote:
If they win the Champions League and League but lose the FA Cup are they still chokers?
This man, you get this straight, your statement probably only applies to few Clubs in the world..the Barcelonas, Bayerns and Reals because they have the most concentration of stars in one place, it doesn't apply to teams like the Liverpools and Ajax, compared to there corresponding National teams.kalani JR wrote:Champions League is the highest level of football there is in the world let's get this straight here.dizzle wrote:Geez no offense but you are applying backward logic here .... Champions and league cups are more cherished than FA Cups..nobody will give a damn about FA cup if you are winning league and Champion. Zidane dominating and winning World Cup and European Cup for France means more than any stuff he did with his club. The Priority goes (descending order)kalani JR wrote:If they win the Champions League and League but lose the FA Cup are they still chokers?dizzle wrote:kalani JR wrote:If Man United wins the FA Cup and League and fails in the league cup are they chokers?tfco wrote:then the 'lower level' international football should be a breeze abi.kalani JR wrote:You say club player like it's a derogatory term, when the highest level of football is played at club level.
Let's call it as it is..this was a choke job by Argentina, including Messi. If Man U are perennial winners of FA Cup and EPL and don't live up to the occasion when they get to the big stage of UEFA Champions League...then they may be considered chokers/jokers.
World Cup
Euro cup/Nations Cup/Copa America
Champions League
league
FA cup
Etc
Mudi, you don dey fall my hand-o. Who among these players is junk?Mudi E wrote:Messi has done very well. It's not easy making two finals in a year at the world cup and now at Copa America. Those are monumental achievements.
Perhaps he doesn't have quality players in his team to win these trophies. The time for a one man gang is over in football as teams are now more strategically balanced.
Bigpokey24 wrote:this Messi has zero effect at international football.. it is as clear as daylight, that this guy shines because of the Barca midfield. I wasn't the only one talking about his lack of class when it comes to international football.. he went missing in WC 2006 ,WC 2010 and now was all over the place vs Bolivia
connect...the....dotsYUJAM wrote:Messi is simply the best. In fact when put side by side, Messi has scored more goals for Argentina than Maradona.
Football is a team sport and even the best players in the world are largely dependent on their team mates for success. Messi is just as good as his team. When his defenders concede or his team mates fail to score, there is only so much he can do. Anyway the guy is still young. He'll have many chances to do well with Argentina
As for BP and TFCO, their behavior goes to show the virulent losers they are. They have nothing better to do than to emerge from their miserable situations and gloat over Messi's NT travails.. Na wa O!
Come on dude really? How many teams have won the WC back to back?asabe wrote:The argument against Spain in 2014 World cup was because Iniesta and Xavi did not have Messi. Go figure...................
It's incredibly laughable that any soccer follower would say that.airwolex wrote:Come on dude really? How many teams have won the WC back to back?asabe wrote:The argument against Spain in 2014 World cup was because Iniesta and Xavi did not have Messi. Go figure...................
Spain won the Euros in 2008 and the WC in 2010, so how silly is your argument?
Some times you just ignor the silly things people write.Iniesta and Xavi has world cup and Euro but we are yet to see Messi win anything for argentina.Also all what Messi has won for barca is simply because he play with the likes of Xavi and Inniesta.theDunamis wrote:It's incredibly laughable that any soccer follower would say that.airwolex wrote:Come on dude really? How many teams have won the WC back to back?asabe wrote:The argument against Spain in 2014 World cup was because Iniesta and Xavi did not have Messi. Go figure...................
Spain won the Euros in 2008 and the WC in 2010, so how silly is your argument?
airwolex wrote:Come on dude really? How many teams have won the WC back to back?asabe wrote:The argument against Spain in 2014 World cup was because Iniesta and Xavi did not have Messi. Go figure...................
Spain won the Euros in 2008 and the WC in 2010, so how silly is your argument?