RATING NIGERIA'S PAST & PRESENT FOOTBALL MANAGERS

[Gotti]

Rating them from the bottom up...

40. Lagerback - got $2m and a summer vacation in exchange for a powerpoint presentation...
39. Betty - got $1m and severance compensation in exchange for t-shirts and massages...
38. Thijs Libregts - got us molested by Catalonia and Basque XIs, but at least he beat Burundi.

[Ekorian]

Rating them from the bottom up...

40. Lagerback - got $2m and a summer vacation in exchange for a powerpoint presentation...
39. Betty - got $1m and severance compensation in exchange for t-shirts and massages...
38. Thijs Libregts - got us molested by Catalonia and Basque XIs, but at least he beat Burundi.

[ANC]

Rating them from the bottom up...

40. Lagerback - got $2m and a summer vacation in exchange for a powerpoint presentation...
39. Betty - got $1m and severance compensation in exchange for t-shirts and massages...
38. Thijs Libregts - got us molested by Catalonia and Basque XIs, but at least he beat Burundi.

forgot his morning pills

[wanaj0]

#1. Keshi - serious risk taker - good results to show.
#2. Amoudu - Did a lot with the little he was given
3. #Westerhoff - He knew how to manager politics of his job. Introduced the world to Nigerian football
4. #Otto Gloria - First high profile foreign coach
5. #Pa Oni - Ushered in a new era of football in an uncertain time.

KPOM!

[Workman]

1.keshi - world class
2. Westernmost - first brought N aija to international attention in 1994.
3. Amodu - qualified for 2 world cups. If you think that's easy, ask Egypt.
4. Otto Gloria - The first got Africa's attention of Naija.
5. Bon Jo - Atlanta 96.

[Ekorian]

Any doubt has been erased that " The big Boss " Stephen Okechukwu Keshi is número UNO???

[Goldleaf]

When Tihomir 'Father Tiko' Jelisavčić (1974–1978) coached us, Africa only had 1 spot in the World Cup and we reached the final continental round-robin stage that included us, Egypt and Tunisia. Godwin Odiye's own goal in Lagos was our ouster while Tunisia went onto Argentina to beat Mexico 3-1, draw goalless with West Germany and lose narrowly 0-1 to Poland.

While not denying Keshi his props, these days, you only have to beat the likes of Malawi, Rwanda, Kenya, Namibia and Ethiopia to qualify for the World Cup. Therefore, comparatively speaking, the playing field is not level.

[Ekorian]

When Tihomir 'Father Tiko' Jelisavčić (1974–1978) coached us, Africa only had 1 spot in the World Cup and we reached the final continental round-robin stage that included us, Egypt and Tunisia. Godwin Odiye's own goal in Lagos was our ouster while Tunisia went onto Argentina to beat Mexico 3-1, draw goalless with West Germany and lose narrowly 0-1 to Poland.

While not denying Keshi his props, these days, you only have to beat the likes of Malawi, Rwanda, Kenya, Namibia and Ethiopia to qualify for the World Cup. Therefore, comparatively speaking, the playing field is not level.

I understand your point but you need to stop comparing disparate eras. Who would have thunk about 20 years ago that in 2014, countries like Costa Rica, Algeria, Switzerland and United States would qualify for the second rounds ahead of Spain, Portugal, Italy, Russia and England....
Where are Hungary, Paraguay and the other old football powerhouse today? There are no more minnows in football and you have to have plans to beat any team in front of you....

[wanaj0]

When Tihomir 'Father Tiko' Jelisavčić (1974–1978) coached us, Africa only had 1 spot in the World Cup and we reached the final continental round-robin stage that included us, Egypt and Tunisia. Godwin Odiye's own goal in Lagos was our ouster while Tunisia went onto Argentina to beat Mexico 3-1, draw goalless with West Germany and lose narrowly 0-1 to Poland.

While not denying Keshi his props, these days, you only have to beat the likes of Malawi, Rwanda, Kenya, Namibia and Ethiopia to qualify for the World Cup. Therefore, comparatively speaking, the playing field is not level.

And who does one have to beat to win the ANC? How many ANC's did we win before Keshi? How many was won by Father Tiko?

At least ONLY one team can win the ANC then and now

[pajimoh]

That's a lot of managers!

and some here want that trend to continue. mssshhhewwww

[Goldleaf]

When Tihomir 'Father Tiko' Jelisavčić (1974–1978) coached us, Africa only had 1 spot in the World Cup and we reached the final continental round-robin stage that included us, Egypt and Tunisia. Godwin Odiye's own goal in Lagos was our ouster while Tunisia went onto Argentina to beat Mexico 3-1, draw goalless with West Germany and lose narrowly 0-1 to Poland.

While not denying Keshi his props, these days, you only have to beat the likes of Malawi, Rwanda, Kenya, Namibia and Ethiopia to qualify for the World Cup. Therefore, comparatively speaking, the playing field is not level.

I understand your point but you need to stop comparing disparate eras. Who would have thunk about 20 years ago that in 2014, countries like Costa Rica, Algeria, Switzerland and United States will qualify for the second rounds ahead of Spain, Portugal, Italy, Russia and England....
Where is Hungary, Paraguay and the other old football powerhouse today? There are no more minnows in football and you have to have plans to beat any team in front of you....

Bro,

I think this thread is aimed at bigging up Keshi but apart from a 4-1 win over Mali AFCON 2013 s-final, Keshi's results are a litany of scrappy 1-0s and 1-1s. There was actually a time when we beat african teams 5-0 and 8-0.

My top 4 are:-

1. Otto Gloria (winning 1980 AFCON after failing in '76 and '78 was a great feat. He won the final 3-0 not a scrappy "heart in your mouth" 1-0!)
2. Clemence Westerhof (won 1994 AFCON and qualified for the WC for our 1st time)
3. Johannes Bonfrere (won the Olympics beating Argentina and Brazil on the way)
4. Shuaibu Amodu (qualified us for 2 World Cups)

Keshi comes in at No.5

[wanaj0]

When Tihomir 'Father Tiko' Jelisavčić (1974–1978) coached us, Africa only had 1 spot in the World Cup and we reached the final continental round-robin stage that included us, Egypt and Tunisia. Godwin Odiye's own goal in Lagos was our ouster while Tunisia went onto Argentina to beat Mexico 3-1, draw goalless with West Germany and lose narrowly 0-1 to Poland.

While not denying Keshi his props, these days, you only have to beat the likes of Malawi, Rwanda, Kenya, Namibia and Ethiopia to qualify for the World Cup. Therefore, comparatively speaking, the playing field is not level.

I understand your point but you need to stop comparing disparate eras. Who would have thunk about 20 years ago that in 2014, countries like Costa Rica, Algeria, Switzerland and United States will qualify for the second rounds ahead of Spain, Portugal, Italy, Russia and England....
Where is Hungary, Paraguay and the other old football powerhouse today? There are no more minnows in football and you have to have plans to beat any team in front of you....

Bro,

I think this thread is aimed at bigging up Keshi but apart from a 4-1 win over Mali AFCON 2013 s-final, Keshi's results are a litany of scrappy 1-0s and 1-1s. There was actually a time when we beat african teams 5-0 and 8-0.

My top 4 are:-

1. Otto Gloria (winning 1980 AFCON after failing in '76 and '78 was a great feat. He won the final 3-0 not a scrappy "heart in your mouth" 1-0!)
2. Clemence Westerhof (won 1994 AFCON and qualified for the WC for our 1st time)
3. Johannes Bonfrere (won the Olympics beating Argentina and Brazil on the way)
4. Shuaibu Amodu (qualified us for 2 World Cups)

Otto Gloria won ANC at home but could not qualify for WC.

CW SE lost by ridiculous margin to Algeria. It took him 5years to win ANC trophy.

Bonfere had to be rescued by Amodu for us to qualify for WC. Forget that playing at home he could not win the ANC.

Amodu, qualified us for 2 WC BUT did not win the ANC.

[Ekorian]

When Tihomir 'Father Tiko' Jelisavčić (1974–1978) coached us, Africa only had 1 spot in the World Cup and we reached the final continental round-robin stage that included us, Egypt and Tunisia. Godwin Odiye's own goal in Lagos was our ouster while Tunisia went onto Argentina to beat Mexico 3-1, draw goalless with West Germany and lose narrowly 0-1 to Poland.

While not denying Keshi his props, these days, you only have to beat the likes of Malawi, Rwanda, Kenya, Namibia and Ethiopia to qualify for the World Cup. Therefore, comparatively speaking, the playing field is not level.

I understand your point but you need to stop comparing disparate eras. Who would have thunk about 20 years ago that in 2014, countries like Costa Rica, Algeria, Switzerland and United States will qualify for the second rounds ahead of Spain, Portugal, Italy, Russia and England....
Where is Hungary, Paraguay and the other old football powerhouse today? There are no more minnows in football and you have to have plans to beat any team in front of you....

Bro,

I think this thread is aimed at bigging up Keshi but apart from a 4-1 win over Mali AFCON 2013 s-final, Keshi's results are a litany of scrappy 1-0s and 1-1s. There was actually a time when we beat african teams 5-0 and 8-0.

My top 4 are:-

1. Otto Gloria (winning 1980 AFCON after failing in '76 and '78 was a great feat. He won the final 3-0 not a scrappy "heart in your mouth" 1-0!)
2. Clemence Westerhof (won 1994 AFCON and qualified for the WC for our 1st time)
3. Johannes Bonfrere (won the Olympics beating Argentina and Brazil on the way)
4. Shuaibu Amodu (qualified us for 2 World Cups)

Keshi comes in at No.5

I don't know what you have against Keshi but you are really getting into sentimental argument.
Nigeria played in 1980 in front of home crowds. Only 8 teams participated. We played a GOALESS draw with CIV and managed a one nil victory against Egypt and Morroco. The only convincing win in the tournament was the final game against Algeria. That's far from the domination you have painted...

[Goldleaf]

Ekorian,

I have nothing against Keshi. Rather I am massively disappointed that having been part of our coaching crew since 2000, he is misusing his opportunity by picking dross into our beloved SE. All those other managers that you listed suffered greatly at the hands of the NFA/NSC. On the day we lost that crucial WC 1978 tie to Tunisia, the Isaac Akioye-led board suddenly jacked up the ticket prices which caused a lot of fans to boycott that match. We only needed a draw to qualify. Father Tiko bought balls from his own money for training.

Keshi is overplaying his NFF issue. No coach suffered at the hands of our administrators as much as Amodu did and even though he did not win AFCON, he deserves his position ahead of Keshi for now until Keshi can give us the solid squad and results that we need.

Just my own 2 kobo.

[ikemba]

Ekorian,

I have nothing against Keshi. Rather I am massively disappointed that having been part of our coaching crew since 2000, he is misusing his opportunity by picking dross into our beloved SE. All those other managers that you listed suffered greatly at the hands of the NFA/NSC. On the day we lost that crucial WC 1978 tie to Tunisia, the Isaac Akioye-led board suddenly jacked up the ticket prices which caused a lot of fans to boycott that match. We only needed a draw to qualify. Father Tiko bought balls from his own money for training.

Keshi is overplaying his NFF issue. No coach suffered at the hands of our administrators as much as Amodu did and even though he did not win AFCON, he deserves his position ahead of Keshi for now until Keshi can give us the solid squad and results that we need.

Just my own 2 kobo.

So ANC title in a very short time and 2nd round WC is not solid enough

[Goldleaf]

Ekorian,

I have nothing against Keshi. Rather I am massively disappointed that having been part of our coaching crew since 2000, he is misusing his opportunity by picking dross into our beloved SE. All those other managers that you listed suffered greatly at the hands of the NFA/NSC. On the day we lost that crucial WC 1978 tie to Tunisia, the Isaac Akioye-led board suddenly jacked up the ticket prices which caused a lot of fans to boycott that match. We only needed a draw to qualify. Father Tiko bought balls from his own money for training.

Keshi is overplaying his NFF issue. No coach suffered at the hands of our administrators as much as Amodu did and even though he did not win AFCON, he deserves his position ahead of Keshi for now until Keshi can give us the solid squad and results that we need.

Just my own 2 kobo.

So ANC title in a very short time and 2nd round WC is not solid enough

Bro,

We should have beaten France. Keshi wasted a good opportunity. I think all the accolades we are giving him up till this time is premature ejaculation and needs to stop because it is all going into his head and demotivating Keshi. When he won AFCON, it should have been the basis for clear and visible progress but our performance in Brazil was a significant replica of the confeds where he also served us crap. Let's slow down. If Keshi has not progressed since AFCON, is it a wonder that his players like Mikel has regressed? Let's grow up!

[ugly boy]

1. Westerhoff
2. Siasia
3. Bonfere
4. Keshi

[Enugu II]

When Tihomir 'Father Tiko' Jelisavčić (1974–1978) coached us, Africa only had 1 spot in the World Cup and we reached the final continental round-robin stage that included us, Egypt and Tunisia. Godwin Odiye's own goal in Lagos was our ouster while Tunisia went onto Argentina to beat Mexico 3-1, draw goalless with West Germany and lose narrowly 0-1 to Poland.

While not denying Keshi his props, these days, you only have to beat the likes of Malawi, Rwanda, Kenya, Namibia and Ethiopia to qualify for the World Cup. Therefore, comparatively speaking, the playing field is not level.

I understand your point but you need to stop comparing disparate eras. Who would have thunk about 20 years ago that in 2014, countries like Costa Rica, Algeria, Switzerland and United States will qualify for the second rounds ahead of Spain, Portugal, Italy, Russia and England....
Where is Hungary, Paraguay and the other old football powerhouse today? There are no more minnows in football and you have to have plans to beat any team in front of you....

Bro,

I think this thread is aimed at bigging up Keshi but apart from a 4-1 win over Mali AFCON 2013 s-final, Keshi's results are a litany of scrappy 1-0s and 1-1s. There was actually a time when we beat african teams 5-0 and 8-0.

My top 4 are:-

1. Otto Gloria (winning 1980 AFCON after failing in '76 and '78 was a great feat. He won the final 3-0 not a scrappy "heart in your mouth" 1-0!)
2. Clemence Westerhof (won 1994 AFCON and qualified for the WC for our 1st time)
3. Johannes Bonfrere (won the Olympics beating Argentina and Brazil on the way)
4. Shuaibu Amodu (qualified us for 2 World Cups)

Keshi comes in at No.5

My brother Goldleaf,

There was a team a World Cup winning team beat African opposition 9-0 and 7-0! Ha, but see as Germany failed to beat two African teams this year in regulation time. Does that emigrate the fact that they are World Champions. Bros, the era of Nigeria beating African teams 5-0 and 8-0 is past. To win by those margins against an African team today will be a rare occurrence. Live with it. That is reality as margins have closed. BTW, there was also a time that the likes of Egypt and Congo used to hammer us 3-0 o!

[Ekorian]

Ekorian,

I have nothing against Keshi. Rather I am massively disappointed that having been part of our coaching crew since 2000, he is misusing his opportunity by picking dross into our beloved SE. All those other managers that you listed suffered greatly at the hands of the NFA/NSC. On the day we lost that crucial WC 1978 tie to Tunisia, the Isaac Akioye-led board suddenly jacked up the ticket prices which caused a lot of fans to boycott that match. We only needed a draw to qualify. Father Tiko bought balls from his own money for training.

Keshi is overplaying his NFF issue. No coach suffered at the hands of our administrators as much as Amodu did and even though he did not win AFCON, he deserves his position ahead of Keshi for now until Keshi can give us the solid squad and results that we need.

Just my own 2 kobo.

So ANC title in a very short time and 2nd round WC is not solid enough

Bro,

We should have beaten France. Keshi wasted a good opportunity. I think all the accolades we are giving him up till this time is premature ejaculation and needs to stop because it is all going into his head and demotivating Keshi. When he won AFCON, it should have been the basis for clear and visible progress but our performance in Brazil was a significant replica of the confeds where he also served us crap. Let's slow down. If Keshi has not progressed since AFCON, is it a wonder that his players like Mikel has regressed? Let's grow up!

Chief, do you truly think that bad officiating had nothing to do with our loss against France? Objectively speaking.....

[Lolly]

Amodu, Westerhof, Bonfrere, and Keshi must be up there. Amodu for consistency, qualifying Nigeria for the WC twice, never failing to qualify for, or reach the semi-final of any tournament, and hardly losing. Westerhof and Bonfrere made Nigerian football globally known with their WC/Olympic Games successes, and Keshi won Nigeria's first AFCON for nearly 20 years.

Ottoman Gloria won our first ever AFCON. He also won it within a year of taking over.

[Lolly]

1.keshi - world class
2. Westernmost - first brought N aija to international attention in 1994.
3. Amodu - qualified for 2 world cups. If you think that's easy, ask Egypt.
4. Otto Gloria - The first got Africa's attention of Naija.
5. Bon Jo - Atlanta 96.

You are right. Much harder than winning back-to-back AFCON titles. They even give trophies for qualifying for World Cups.

[pajimoh]

1.keshi - world class
2. Westernmost - first brought N aija to international attention in 1994.
3. Amodu - qualified for 2 world cups. If you think that's easy, ask Egypt.
4. Otto Gloria - The first got Africa's attention of Naija.
5. Bon Jo - Atlanta 96.

You are right. Much harder than winning back-to-back AFCON titles. They even give trophies for qualifying for World Cups.

typical lolly pop head mentality Go and ask those who have qualified for ANC many times but cannot make it to the world cup. 5 places for the continent. Any sane person will know that it would obviously be more difficult....but

[Cristao II]

Mine are:

1. Clemen Westerhof: Qualifified us for our first WC, brought Nigeria to international stage.

2. Amodu Shuaibu: Qualified Nigeria to 2 WCs, robbed twice, sacked twice, but he barely lost games

3. Austin Eguavoen: He was on a streak and could have been the greatest Naija coach but awon enemies would not let him breathe, just like they didn't allow Amodu to breathe.

4. Stephen Keshi: Although he has a nack for outcoaching himself, but he was near perfect in the ANC2013. If he comes back to earth he might be the greatest African coach of all time.

Kolinzo, it took CW almost 5 years to win the ANC...
and rating Eguavoen over Keshi is simply laughable...

Well, CW won Gold, Silver, Bronze in those five years, and that was the time African soccer was highly competitive. He also qualified Naija to her first WC when the WCQ was highly competitive, unlike today.

Bia, the way you are quoting standards without any iota of measurements. How do we measure competitiveness of qualifiers? There are many factors - number of slots, quality of teams, coaching expertise, experience. So how are you measuring it?