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PostPosted: Wed May 14, 2014 8:17 pm 
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Messi: I am not a ´true great´ like Maradona
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Lionel Messi does not believe that he deserves to be compared to Argentina legend Diego Maradona until he has lifted the FIFA World Cup.

The Barcelona talisman goes into the finals in Brazil as Argentina's main attacking threat and wearing the number 10 shirt made famous by Maradona during his 17-year international career.

The former Argentina captain won the World Cup in 1986 when he scored five goals on their way to beating West Germany in the final.

Comparisons have been made between Messi and Maradona and their influence on the national team, but the 26-year-old does not feel that he can claim to be his compatriot's equal just yet.

"The comparison with Maradona is a very nice compliment, but not one that I can accept yet," Messi told Goal. "He did so much for the national team - and I don't think any player can be considered a true great until they have won the World Cup.

"I hope that I can do that and I hope I can do that this summer - but until then I don't talk about me as the best.

"When people say nice things about you and the way you play the game it is always nice to hear - but I have always said when I retire is the time to look back at what I have achieved.

"For now it's about constantly trying to improve and winning things with Barcelona and Argentina."

Messi made his international debut in 2005 and will be playing in his third World Cup in Brazil.

http://us.soccerway.com/news/2014/May/1 ... a/n288331/


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PostPosted: Wed May 14, 2014 8:23 pm 
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After this article...I am ALMOST a fan of Messi...almost!

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PostPosted: Thu May 15, 2014 12:29 am 
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"The comparison with Maradona is a very nice compliment, but not one that I can accept yet," Messi told Goal. "He did so much for the national team - and I don't think any player can be considered a true great until they have won the World Cup


"I hope that I can do that and I hope I can do that this summer - but until then I don't talk about me as the best..

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what I've been saying for years, and Messi apologists just won't shut up

He's a club great...end of.

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PostPosted: Thu May 15, 2014 12:40 am 
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Messi is trying hard to tell us so if he wins the world cup we should call he great abi?
He is good but he need to be the main man when they win it not just an ok player.
So most waste pipe that won the world cup we should call them great players?


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PostPosted: Thu May 15, 2014 12:49 am 
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Messi is just being modest here, you don't have to win the WC to be a great champion.....the same way he cannot turn around and say Maradona is not a great champion because he did not win the CL.

Many things fall into place for a player to win the WC or any other trophy....Messi has scored 37 goals in 83 games for Argentina and Maradona scored 34 in 91. Messi has not lit up a big tournament for Argentina like Maradona did in 1986 and he may never but this should not take anything away from his greatness, Maradona cannot come back and do the amazing things Messi has done in European football either...does not take anything away from his greatness too.

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iworo wrote:
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"The comparison with Maradona is a very nice compliment, but not one that I can accept yet," Messi told Goal. "He did so much for the national team - and I don't think any player can be considered a true great until they have won the World Cup


"I hope that I can do that and I hope I can do that this summer - but until then I don't talk about me as the best..

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what I've been saying for years, and Messi apologists just won't shut up

He's a club great...end of.


Well said.

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PostPosted: Thu May 15, 2014 12:57 am 
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I like his humility, but I'm a little suprised. A lot of great players don't shy away from such comparisms.


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kajifu wrote:
Messi is trying hard to tell us so if he wins the world cup we should call he great abi?
He is good but he need to be the main man when they win it not just an ok player.
So most waste pipe that won the world cup we should call them great players?


At least I am not alone when i read that.

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Messi is already great :?


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If he wins the world cup with Argentina then he will be greater than Diego..

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If he wins the world cup with Argentina then he will be greater than Diego..

maybe in your own head .smh .. the guy came out and said he isn't better than Maradona and you are here saying otherwise..( get this Argentina will not be winning this worldcup on Brazilian soil and they are grouped in the cursed group F ... no team ever grouped in Group F has lifted the worldcup trophy. everyone has an opinion, so do the copy paste spammer..

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He was won more medals in football than Diego and is the only player to have won the Ballon D' awards 4 times in a row! He only needs to play well and help Argentina win the world cup .

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papparassi Sport wrote:
If he wins the world cup with Argentina then he will be greater than Diego..

maybe in your own head .smh .. the guy came out and said he isn't better than Maradona and you are here saying otherwise..( get this Argentina will not be winning this worldcup on Brazilian soil and they are grouped the the cursed group F ... no team ever grouped in Group F has lifted the worldcup trophy. everyone has an opinion, so do the copy paste spammer..

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what the heck is " he was won" :shock:

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I guess paparrassi coach is not great since he never won the APOY.Or Adebayor is greater than Jay jay since he has won the APOY.My friend winning the wpoy does not mean you are better than some people who never won it.Apart from Barca what else has he done.Same Barca players are the reason Spain looks like the best national team in history of the game.


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Messi has won everything with Barca and has also won the World Youth Cup in 2005 and 2008 Olympics with Argentina. All he needs is a world cup..

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PostPosted: Thu May 15, 2014 3:18 pm 
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Not really, His case is exceptional.

Messi needs World Cup win to join greats: Ardiles

Lionel Messi would trade all his Barcelona success for a World Cup winners' medal with Argentina to sit alongside the game's greats, according to compatriot Ossie Ardiles.

"That is how important the World Cup is for him," said Ardiles, who was in the Argentina team that won the 1978 World Cup at home in Buenos Aires.

http://www.torontosun.com/2014/05/14/me ... ts-ardiles

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I guess paparrassi coach is not great since he never won the APOY.Or Adebayor is greater than Jay jay since he has won the APOY.My friend winning the wpoy does not mean you are better than some people who never won it.Apart from Barca what else has he done.Same Barca players are the reason Spain looks like the best national team in history of the game.

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Oboy he is great but not oga Maradona level.If he win the world cup I will not put him along side Diego Maradona.I will like to see him win it but this world cup I see Argentina chance only if Brazil and Germany are out befor they face them.Something tells me an African team might get to semi or win it like play like play.Alot of drama to come.


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I disagree with his assertion that one needs to win the WC to be considered a great. Plenty of greats have never won the WC. Plenty of greats will never win it. Messi is already an all-time great however to be considered up with Pele and Maradona, he will need to win a WC. All this talk of Messi being a WC failure is hog-wash and pre-mature. He was 18, coming off a 4-month injury spell, and was not a key member of Argentina's 2006 squad. In 2010, he played well in Argentina's first 4 matches and despite not scoring any goals, he directly contributed to probably 70% of Argentina's goals in the tournament. He lost a great chance to win it in 2010 due to poor managing by Maradona. In my estimation, Messi has this WC and 2018 in Russia to try to get it done. This time around wont be easy but winning a WC rarely is.

Argentina looks like they will have a fairly light schedule and will sleep-walk their way to the top of their group. On paper they should comfortably advance to the semis. It will take good managing by Sabella to propel Argentina to WC glory. Argentina has all the pieces this time around and I am sure Messi will deliver the goods. Its a matter of Argentina achieving the right tactical balance in the latter stages of this tournament (and avoiding Brazil at all costs).


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Guys, guys, please just stop this nonsense. Being a great player is not about statistics. You watch Zidane trap the ball and glide past players, and you don't need his stats to decide he's a great player at the highest level. You watch Maradona and Messi on the ball, and there's no way in hell Messi even comes close. Look, he can score 100 goals in this world cup, and win the another 4 world cups, scoring 500 goals in all, but no way will he be a better player than Maradona. When you are talking about players at this level, you're talking about a level where sports meets art, and please, don't demean it by dragging some kind of statistics into the mix of the stuff of peoples' souls.

I'm pretty sure Ronaldo will smash all Pele's records (OK, maybe outside winning the world cup). Would you then place them at the same level? Same level of artistry, and magic? I'd like to know.

So just stop all this nonsense, abeg.


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I disagree with his assertion that one needs to win the WC to be considered a great. Plenty of greats have never won the WC. Plenty of greats will never win it. Messi is already an all-time great however to be considered up with Pele and Maradona, he will need to win a WC. All this talk of Messi being a WC failure is hog-wash and pre-mature. He was 18, coming off a 4-month injury spell, and was not a key member of Argentina's 2006 squad. In 2010, he played well in Argentina's first 4 matches and despite not scoring any goals, he directly contributed to probably 70% of Argentina's goals in the tournament. He lost a great chance to win it in 2010 due to poor managing by Maradona. In my estimation, Messi has this WC and 2018 in Russia to try to get it done. This time around wont be easy but winning a WC rarely is.
Argentina looks like they will have a fairly light schedule and will sleep-walk their way to the top of their group. On paper they should comfortably advance to the semis. It will take good managing by Sabella to propel Argentina to WC glory. Argentina has all the pieces this time around and I am sure Messi will deliver the goods. Its a matter of Argentina achieving the right tactical balance in the latter stages of this tournament (and avoiding Brazil at all costs).
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Everything you wrote are excuses, not once did you even blame messi..talk about pure rubbish

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Nipsy wrote:
Guys, guys, please just stop this nonsense. Being a great player is not about statistics. You watch Zidane trap the ball and glide past players, and you don't need his stats to decide he's a great player at the highest level. You watch Maradona and Messi on the ball, and there's no way in hell Messi even comes close. Look, he can score 100 goals in this world cup, and win the another 4 world cups, scoring 500 goals in all, but no way will he be a better player than Maradona. When you are talking about players at this level, you're talking about a level where sports meets art, and please, don't demean it by dragging some kind of logistics into the mix of the stuff of peoples' souls.

I'm pretty sure Ronaldo will smash all Pele's records (OK, maybe outside winning the world cup). Would you then place them at the same level? Same level of artistry, and magic? I'd like to know.

So just stop all this nonsense, abeg.

Thank you bros, some people just forget so soon.Diego Maradona is in another level, Messi is just a good player.


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