Mikel: Olivier Giroud should have been SENT OFF for elbowing
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Mikel: Olivier Giroud should have been SENT OFF for elbowing
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Mikel said: 'Yes I got an elbow and the referee saw it and he only gave him a warning, not even a yellow card, nothing. It was bad. We know the game – if you see it, act on it.
'The ref saw it. He did catch me, I don't know if it was too hard but the intention was definitely there. I don't think he is a dirty player. Everyone wants to win for his country. He hasn't done those sort of things before so maybe it was just one of those things in the heat of the moment
Nigeria were also upset at a succession of challenges on midfielder Ogenyi Onazi, which resulted in the Nigerian being carried of on 59 minutes after a challenge from Blaise Matuid
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Re: Mikel: Olivier Giroud should have been SENT OFF for elbo
This is where diving and rolling like u have been shot gets the opponent sent off...other teams get it we don't...Did Kaita make any contact? But the Greek guy sold it to make sure he forced the refs hand...
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Re: Mikel: Olivier Giroud should have been SENT OFF for elbo
I know what an Argentine or Spanish player would have done there and Giroud would have received his matching orders! Trust me even if Mikel had fallen down, he would be carded for trying to con the ref for an elbow that did not connect and do any damage. Some natives would also say, it was not a red card offence since his nose was not broken and blood did not flow.
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maceo4 wrote:This is where diving and rolling like u have been shot gets the opponent sent off...other teams get it we don't...Did Kaita make any contact? But the Greek guy sold it to make sure he forced the refs hand...
Exactly. You hear people shouting about how players dive and fake and this and that, this is a prime reason why. No excuse for diving but the ref should have punished Giroud for that.
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the ref was being a total douche. Not that he missed it...he saw it! and he is a FIFA WC ref!
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Re: Mikel: Olivier Giroud should have been SENT OFF for elbo
the ref was bad in this game.. the shocking one was when Evra hugged Osaze, this ref went to Evra and warned him not to hug Osaze in the 18
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Re: Mikel: Olivier Giroud should have been SENT OFF for elbo
All the card able and punishable offences that could potentially changed the game he saw and decided to ignore by taking a decision that is contrary to what the rule of the law says.
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I think Enyeama should have done some fraternizing before hand.
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I am glad I am not the only one who saw this. I am glad Mikel is saying it.
Sanni Keita did nothing close to that and he got a red.
I wrote about the 3 things they did that were clear violations during the game. I blame keshi for not going ballistic on the side line and asking for a card. That's what all the top coaches do.
Sanni Keita did nothing close to that and he got a red.
I wrote about the 3 things they did that were clear violations during the game. I blame keshi for not going ballistic on the side line and asking for a card. That's what all the top coaches do.
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Trust me even if Keshi had gone ballistic he would have gotten a ban from the sideline and they commentators would call him names again. When it is stacked against you, you cannot win, you just keep trying to climb the slippery slope hoping you will get something to clutch unto.Solowe wrote:I am glad I am not the only one who saw this. I am glad Mikel is saying it.
Sanni Keita did nothing close to that and he got a red.
I wrote about the 3 things they did that were clear violations during the game. I blame keshi for not going ballistic on the side line and asking for a card. That's what all the top coaches do.
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Africans need to reconsider our continued participation in the WC. FIFA and its refrees are cheats. Just like IMF, World Bank, G8, etc, they have different rules for African countries that can match the performance of the Europeans and SA countries. We are just there to make the Europeans feel superior.Chief Ogbunigwe wrote:the ref was being a total douche. Not that he missed it...he saw it! and he is a FIFA WC ref!
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Oloye,
I beg to differ. We have to be smarter about it. NFA should have gotten a nice screenshot of the incidents. Tackle on Onazi, elbow on Mikel. During the press conference, bring them up and ask why?
Simple why ?
Until we bring it up, commentators will just keep making snide remarks and comments and referees will keep brushing it off.
Same thing about Racist fans and players. Fifa is not protecting African players. It was too obvious at this WC.
Giroud should have been sent off.
Matuidi should have been sent off.
Evra pretty much grabbed osaze for a corner. I've seen penalties given for much less in the champions league.
When I started a thread that African players were not getting protected, some said we have to be noble. Sorry, noble does not cut it.
I beg to differ. We have to be smarter about it. NFA should have gotten a nice screenshot of the incidents. Tackle on Onazi, elbow on Mikel. During the press conference, bring them up and ask why?
Simple why ?
Until we bring it up, commentators will just keep making snide remarks and comments and referees will keep brushing it off.
Same thing about Racist fans and players. Fifa is not protecting African players. It was too obvious at this WC.
Giroud should have been sent off.
Matuidi should have been sent off.
Evra pretty much grabbed osaze for a corner. I've seen penalties given for much less in the champions league.
When I started a thread that African players were not getting protected, some said we have to be noble. Sorry, noble does not cut it.
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Re: Mikel: Olivier Giroud should have been SENT OFF for elbo
...very sad...very very sad...thank God I was hacked at work and no see the game...and I refused to watch the rematch...Lord knows wetin for don happen while I watch this ref programmed game...
Re: Mikel: Olivier Giroud should have been SENT OFF for elbo
The ref was awful. Even the (normally biased) English fans commenting on the game in the Guardian mentioned that the referee seemed reluctant to punish France's awful fouling on Nigerian players. One fan said the referee seemed determined not to book any French player unless they pulled out machine guns and started shooting Nigerian players.
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Will that change anything? Looks like you dont understand things work with the press when you do not have the power or control over them. The press will highlight what those who control them want them to highlight. Bring it up to who if i may ask? To BBC, ESPN or ..... Like people have highlighted in some other threads it is time CAF and its technical committee sit down and begin to look at these things with the aim of prevailing upon FIFA instead of waiting for the next opportunity to collect 'egunje' from the next bid that is in the offing.juventuss wrote:Oloye,
I beg to differ. We have to be smarter about it. NFA should have gotten a nice screenshot of the incidents. Tackle on Onazi, elbow on Mikel. During the press conference, bring them up and ask why?
Simple why ?
Until we bring it up, commentators will just keep making snide remarks and comments and referees will keep brushing it off.
Giroud should have been sent off.
Matuidi should have been sent off.
Evra pretty much grabbed osaze for a corner. I've seen penalties given for much less in the champions league.
When I started a thread that African players were not getting protected, some said we have to be noble. Sorry, noble does not cut it.
These are the technical aspects of the game which CAF and it's ref department should be sifting through while drawing the attention of FIFA to this blatant cheating that has been become a recurrent feature in these compromised competitions. Most of these refs come into matches with a tainted view of African teams, the image of African teams we see expressed by the punditry it seems applies to these refs...you see it in their attitude. An African player protests they give them the look as if they are still talking to a slave or a kid. I see all these things in these matches.
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MAy be they are saying that because the English dont like the french...wiseone wrote:The ref was awful. Even the (normally biased) English fans commenting on the game in the Guardian mentioned that the referee seemed reluctant to punish France's awful fouling on Nigerian players. One fan said the referee seemed determined not to book any French player unless they pulled out machine guns and started shooting Nigerian players.
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Re: Mikel: Olivier Giroud should have been SENT OFF for elbo
I know you guys don't like when players whine for the someone in the other team to be sent off but this is why they do it! Mikel should have raised hell during the game and not have been an ATF style complainer.
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They do it because they have realised it affects the game..it gives them the advantage. What natives dont know is that getting your opponents sent off is now part of the tactics applied in the game. Look at the way Robben dived..the olympics gymnast and divers have nothing on him. Cheating is now part of the game...don't mind all those shouting stamp out cheating they are two faced lying cheats themselves.kalani JR wrote:I know you guys don't like when players whine for the someone in the other team to be sent off but this is why they do it! Mikel should have raised hell during the game and not have been an ATF style complainer.
If Mikel had done that to Giroud , he would have screamed blue murder and even Hollande would be crying that Mikel be brought before the ICJ for human rights abuse.
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Funny thing, Klinnsmann has already put the ref that will referee the game against them and Belgium on notice.
He pretty much is attempting to intimidate both the ref and FIFA.
Now trying to buy calls for his team.
He pretty much is attempting to intimidate both the ref and FIFA.
Now trying to buy calls for his team.
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That is how you do it when playing against big teams..but then he can do it and be heard, he coaches USA, has a big TV network behind him and he is a name respected in World football. If Keshi does that FIFA would sanction him for bringing the game to disrepute.Cellular wrote:Funny thing, Klinnsmann has already put the ref that will referee the game against them and Belgium on notice.
He pretty much is attempting to intimidate both the ref and FIFA.
Now trying to buy calls for his team.
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oloye wrote:That is how you do it when playing against big teams..but then he can do it and be heard, he coaches USA, has a big TV network behind him and he is a name respected in World football. If Keshi does that FIFA would sanction him for bringing the game to disrepute.Cellular wrote:Funny thing, Klinnsmann has already put the ref that will referee the game against them and Belgium on notice.
He pretty much is attempting to intimidate both the ref and FIFA.
Now trying to buy calls for his team.
Oloye:
I hear you, but I think we should do it anyway. let them sanction. We cant keep quiet because of their sanctions. As Wole Soyinka famously wrote, “The man dies in him who keeps quiet in the face of injustice.”
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Re: Mikel: Olivier Giroud should have been SENT OFF for elbo
If a Brazilian or European player got elbowed like that, we would have gone down as if hit in face by a cruise missile. That is how the "big" teams get opposition players sent off (heck even Pep's Barcelona were masters at "creating" red cards for opposition players). Our players need to get cynical.
kalani JR wrote:I know you guys don't like when players whine for the someone in the other team to be sent off but this is why they do it! Mikel should have raised hell during the game and not have been an ATF style complainer.
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David Moyes once did something like this against Ferguson, worked like a charm.Cellular wrote:Funny thing, Klinnsmann has already put the ref that will referee the game against them and Belgium on notice.
He pretty much is attempting to intimidate both the ref and FIFA.
Now trying to buy calls for his team.