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PINNICK MUST SETUP A PROGRAM TO ATTRACT FOREIGN BORN PLAYERS
Posted: Wed Oct 22, 2014 3:35 pm
by JACKAL
Nigeria should have a program where we are already talking to all these foreign born players even before they make the grade at top level European teams. We need to try and win their hearts and minds and convince them early to consider playing for Nigeria because it would enhance their careers.
Don't wait till they make Chelsea or any of the top teams. Make contact with them when they are 15 and they are starlets of their respective youth team. Wine and dine their parents and remind them of their roots. Gives them trips to come home or go meet and see big Nigerian star like Mikel so that they feel like they belong.
This is why we missed out on the likes of a Young Fashanu, Amoebi, Sidney Sam etc etc.
Chelsea debut excites Nigerian starlet Solanke
Chelsea debut excites Nigerian starlet Solanke
Dominic Solanke - Chelsea debut on Tuesday night
by Staff Reporter
Wednesday Oct 22, 2014. 09:50
Nigeria-born teenager Dominic Solanke was delighted to make his first-team debut for Chelsea at a bigger stage when he was thrown into the fray against Maribor in the Champions League.
At age 17, the midfielder lasted for 18 minutes. He was first named in the first team last weekend against Crystal Palace where he was an unused substitute.
"Wow. What a moment. Making my debut for Chelsea in the champions league! Thank you so much for all the messages and support! #CFC," Dominic Solanke tweeted.
http://africanfootball.com/news/470829/ ... et-Solanke
Re: PINNICK MUST SETUP A PROGRAM TO ATTRACT FOREIGN BORN PLA
Posted: Wed Oct 22, 2014 3:38 pm
by Tbite
Re: PINNICK MUST SETUP A PROGRAM TO ATTRACT FOREIGN BORN PLA
Posted: Wed Oct 22, 2014 3:40 pm
by Mr. Piffington
What a stupid thread.
Re: PINNICK MUST SETUP A PROGRAM TO ATTRACT FOREIGN BORN PLA
Posted: Wed Oct 22, 2014 3:42 pm
by cchinukw
Solowe wrote:Nigeria should have a program where we are already talking to all these foreign born players even before they make the grade at top level European teams. We need to try and win their hearts and minds and convince them early to consider playing for Nigeria because it would enhance their careers.
Don't wait till they make Chelsea or any of the top teams. Make contact with them when they are 15 and they are starlets of their respective youth team. Wine and dine their parents and remind them of their roots. Gives them trips to come home or go meet and see big Nigerian star like Mikel so that they feel like they belong.
This is why we missed out on the likes of a Young Fashanu, Amoebi, Sidney Sam etc etc.
Chelsea debut excites Nigerian starlet Solanke
Chelsea debut excites Nigerian starlet Solanke
Dominic Solanke - Chelsea debut on Tuesday night
by Staff Reporter
Wednesday Oct 22, 2014. 09:50
Nigeria-born teenager Dominic Solanke was delighted to make his first-team debut for Chelsea at a bigger stage when he was thrown into the fray against Maribor in the Champions League.
At age 17, the midfielder lasted for 18 minutes. He was first named in the first team last weekend against Crystal Palace where he was an unused substitute.
"Wow. What a moment. Making my debut for Chelsea in the champions league! Thank you so much for all the messages and support! #CFC," Dominic Solanke tweeted.
http://africanfootball.com/news/470829/ ... et-Solanke
I think you would find that Nigeria was not their first choice. Nigeria has had its share of foreign born internationals in the past so I don't know what you are on about apart from making a nuisance of yourself.
Re: PINNICK MUST SETUP A PROGRAM TO ATTRACT FOREIGN BORN PLA
Posted: Wed Oct 22, 2014 3:44 pm
by bushboy
Because he is foreign born means he is better? Is he better than Iheanacho? Nwakali? Ezeh? or any of our homegrown youth talent?
Re: PINNICK MUST SETUP A PROGRAM TO ATTRACT FOREIGN BORN PLA
Posted: Wed Oct 22, 2014 3:54 pm
by ohenhen1
We have a lot of talent at home. Talent is not our problem. Would rather setup a program to improve the level of youth coaching we get in Nigeria. We rely too much on individual talent. Our youngsters don't get the same level of tactical and technical training as their European counter parts get.
Re: PINNICK MUST SETUP A PROGRAM TO ATTRACT FOREIGN BORN PLA
Posted: Wed Oct 22, 2014 4:00 pm
by txj
ohenhen1 wrote:We have a lot of talent at home. Talent is not our problem. Would rather setup a program to improve the level of youth coaching we get in Nigeria. We rely too much on individual talent. Our youngsters don't get the same level of tactical and technical training as their European counter parts get.
Discovering talent may not be our problem but when u have a problem developing talent, then talent is a big problem.
Re: PINNICK MUST SETUP A PROGRAM TO ATTRACT FOREIGN BORN PLA
Posted: Wed Oct 22, 2014 4:05 pm
by txj
bushboy wrote:Because he is foreign born means he is better? Is he better than Iheanacho? Nwakali? Ezeh? or any of our homegrown youth talent?
I'm not sure how one can make the leap in logic from the thread that suggests that foreign born is better.
2ndly, does Solanke necessarily have to be better than any of the homegrown players or just simply good enough for attention to be paid to him?
Re: PINNICK MUST SETUP A PROGRAM TO ATTRACT FOREIGN BORN PLA
Posted: Wed Oct 22, 2014 4:06 pm
by txj
cchinukw wrote:Solowe wrote:Nigeria should have a program where we are already talking to all these foreign born players even before they make the grade at top level European teams. We need to try and win their hearts and minds and convince them early to consider playing for Nigeria because it would enhance their careers.
Don't wait till they make Chelsea or any of the top teams. Make contact with them when they are 15 and they are starlets of their respective youth team. Wine and dine their parents and remind them of their roots. Gives them trips to come home or go meet and see big Nigerian star like Mikel so that they feel like they belong.
This is why we missed out on the likes of a Young Fashanu, Amoebi, Sidney Sam etc etc.
Chelsea debut excites Nigerian starlet Solanke
Chelsea debut excites Nigerian starlet Solanke
Dominic Solanke - Chelsea debut on Tuesday night
by Staff Reporter
Wednesday Oct 22, 2014. 09:50
Nigeria-born teenager Dominic Solanke was delighted to make his first-team debut for Chelsea at a bigger stage when he was thrown into the fray against Maribor in the Champions League.
At age 17, the midfielder lasted for 18 minutes. He was first named in the first team last weekend against Crystal Palace where he was an unused substitute.
"Wow. What a moment. Making my debut for Chelsea in the champions league! Thank you so much for all the messages and support! #CFC," Dominic Solanke tweeted.
http://africanfootball.com/news/470829/ ... et-Solanke
I think you would find that Nigeria was not their first choice. Nigeria has had its share of foreign born internationals in the past so I don't know what you are on about apart from making a nuisance of yourself.
His choice atm is not important. Based on FIFA rules he doesn't have to make a definitive long term decision until he is 21, so what exactly is the problem?
Re: PINNICK MUST SETUP A PROGRAM TO ATTRACT FOREIGN BORN PLA
Posted: Wed Oct 22, 2014 4:26 pm
by JACKAL
Mr. Piffington wrote:What a stupid thread.
Whats "stupid" is your knee jerk reaction to this issue.
Re: PINNICK MUST SETUP A PROGRAM TO ATTRACT FOREIGN BORN PLA
Posted: Wed Oct 22, 2014 4:29 pm
by JACKAL
bushboy wrote:Because he is foreign born means he is better? Is he better than Iheanacho? Nwakali? Ezeh? or any of our homegrown youth talent?
No one is saying one is better than the other, just that the best of these foreign born eligible players can compliment what we already have.... It gives us options so that we don't have to reply on "Hey-you's" of the world when there is dearth in home grown talent.
Re: PINNICK MUST SETUP A PROGRAM TO ATTRACT FOREIGN BORN PLA
Posted: Wed Oct 22, 2014 4:31 pm
by JACKAL
ohenhen1 wrote:We have a lot of talent at home. Talent is not our problem. Would rather setup a program to improve the level of youth coaching we get in Nigeria. We rely too much on individual talent. Our youngsters don't get the same level of tactical and technical training as their European counter parts get.
A great player is a great player regardless of where he is groomed. We want great Nigerian players to represent us.
This program shouldn't in anyway affect the continued development of home grown players
Re: PINNICK MUST SETUP A PROGRAM TO ATTRACT FOREIGN BORN PLA
Posted: Wed Oct 22, 2014 4:32 pm
by ogasir
Solanke does not come across as someone who would play for Nigeria. He seems too "oyinbo" for me.
Re: PINNICK MUST SETUP A PROGRAM TO ATTRACT FOREIGN BORN PLA
Posted: Wed Oct 22, 2014 4:33 pm
by txj
ogasir wrote:Solanke does not come across as someone who would play for Nigeria. He seems too "oyinbo" for me.
And what does that mean exactly?
Re: PINNICK MUST SETUP A PROGRAM TO ATTRACT FOREIGN BORN PLA
Posted: Wed Oct 22, 2014 4:44 pm
by ohenhen1
Solowe wrote:ohenhen1 wrote:We have a lot of talent at home. Talent is not our problem. Would rather setup a program to improve the level of youth coaching we get in Nigeria. We rely too much on individual talent. Our youngsters don't get the same level of tactical and technical training as their European counter parts get.
A great player is a great player regardless of where he is groomed. We want great Nigerian players to represent us.
This program shouldn't in anyway affect the continued development of home grown players
We have great players in Nigeria. Players like the Nacho man were groomed in Nigeria. The number one priority should be to become better organized. I remember growing up playing on concrete paved roads, with no cleets. First time I played with cleets was when I was 14. We need to build good playing surfaces, get kids into training programs early. Get kids good shoes and etc. That is how we are going become really good at Football. Not by going for the foreign made product or relying on oyibos. Oyibo people only care about themselves, they don't care about Africa. Am not saying I am against going after foreign based players. I will like to have Aneke invited. But that is not a priority. We need to get better organized first.
Re: PINNICK MUST SETUP A PROGRAM TO ATTRACT FOREIGN BORN PLA
Posted: Wed Oct 22, 2014 4:55 pm
by bushboy
txj wrote:bushboy wrote:Because he is foreign born means he is better? Is he better than Iheanacho? Nwakali? Ezeh? or any of our homegrown youth talent?
I'm not sure how one can make the leap in logic from the thread that suggests that foreign born is better.
2ndly, does Solanke necessarily have to be better than any of the homegrown players or just simply good enough for attention to be paid to him?
It's a pretty obvious leap if you ask me. If the thread starter is suggesting setting up a program specifically designed to attract foreign born players, it suggest they are worth the special attention and expense of setting up the said program. Why would anyone go through that trouble if not to find something "better" than you have at home?
Re: PINNICK MUST SETUP A PROGRAM TO ATTRACT FOREIGN BORN PLA
Posted: Wed Oct 22, 2014 4:59 pm
by txj
bushboy wrote:txj wrote:bushboy wrote:Because he is foreign born means he is better? Is he better than Iheanacho? Nwakali? Ezeh? or any of our homegrown youth talent?
I'm not sure how one can make the leap in logic from the thread that suggests that foreign born is better.
2ndly, does Solanke necessarily have to be better than any of the homegrown players or just simply good enough for attention to be paid to him?
It's a pretty obvious leap if you ask me. If the thread starter is suggesting setting a special program to attract foreign born players, it suggest they are worth the special attention and expense of setting up a program targeted specifically to them. Why would anyone go through that trouble if not to find something "better" than you have at home?
If they are good enough why shouldn't we set up a special program to attract them?
And even if they are better, which nobody suggests, how does that stop or constrain the current program by the NFF?
What exactly is wrong with adding more to what we already have at home?
Re: PINNICK MUST SETUP A PROGRAM TO ATTRACT FOREIGN BORN PLA
Posted: Wed Oct 22, 2014 5:11 pm
by JACKAL
txj wrote:bushboy wrote:txj wrote:bushboy wrote:Because he is foreign born means he is better? Is he better than Iheanacho? Nwakali? Ezeh? or any of our homegrown youth talent?
I'm not sure how one can make the leap in logic from the thread that suggests that foreign born is better.
2ndly, does Solanke necessarily have to be better than any of the homegrown players or just simply good enough for attention to be paid to him?
It's a pretty obvious leap if you ask me. If the thread starter is suggesting setting a special program to attract foreign born players, it suggest they are worth the special attention and expense of setting up a program targeted specifically to them. Why would anyone go through that trouble if not to find something "better" than you have at home?
If they are good enough why shouldn't we set up a special program to attract them?
And even if they are better, which nobody suggests, how does that stop or constrain the current program by the NFF?
What exactly is wrong with adding more to what we already have at home?
And by the way TJX.. the NFA/NFF has been doing this for decades...
Tunji Banjo, John Chidozie, Sola Ameobi, Victor moses.. etc etc... So this isn't new.. all I am saying is we should formalize it now that its obvious that the European countries are now competing for all this players like never before... We could have gotten Alaba at Bayen if we had a program like this...England now has Welbeck, Sterling, Zuha .... .
Re: PINNICK MUST SETUP A PROGRAM TO ATTRACT FOREIGN BORN PLA
Posted: Wed Oct 22, 2014 5:23 pm
by ogasir
txj wrote:ogasir wrote:Solanke does not come across as someone who would play for Nigeria. He seems too "oyinbo" for me.
And what does that mean exactly?
He seems really assimilated into English culture. It also does look like his Nigerian dad is not in his life , so he has little or no exposure to Nigeria.
Re: PINNICK MUST SETUP A PROGRAM TO ATTRACT FOREIGN BORN PLA
Posted: Wed Oct 22, 2014 5:31 pm
by txj
ogasir wrote:txj wrote:ogasir wrote:Solanke does not come across as someone who would play for Nigeria. He seems too "oyinbo" for me.
And what does that mean exactly?
He seems really assimilated into English culture. It also does look like his Nigerian dad is not in his life , so he has little or no exposure to Nigeria.
U mean like Tunji Banjo?
Re: PINNICK MUST SETUP A PROGRAM TO ATTRACT FOREIGN BORN PLA
Posted: Wed Oct 22, 2014 5:36 pm
by Mr. Piffington
Solowe wrote:Mr. Piffington wrote:What a stupid thread.
Whats "stupid" is your knee jerk reaction to this issue.
No, your thread is stupid.
Re: PINNICK MUST SETUP A PROGRAM TO ATTRACT FOREIGN BORN PLA
Posted: Wed Oct 22, 2014 6:44 pm
by JACKAL
Mr. Piffington wrote:Solowe wrote:Mr. Piffington wrote:What a stupid thread.
Whats "stupid" is your knee jerk reaction to this issue.
No, your thread is stupid.
You are right, I was mistaken, Its not your Knee Jerk reaction. Its just you.
Re: PINNICK MUST SETUP A PROGRAM TO ATTRACT FOREIGN BORN PLA
Posted: Wed Oct 22, 2014 6:52 pm
by Mr. Piffington
Solowe wrote:Mr. Piffington wrote:Solowe wrote:Mr. Piffington wrote:What a stupid thread.
Whats "stupid" is your knee jerk reaction to this issue.
No, your thread is stupid.
You are right, I was mistaken, Its not your Knee Jerk reaction. Its just you.
Your thread is still stupid.
