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Zlatan released! :arrow: :scared: Movic is expected to miss the first five months of the season recovering from knee surgery, and with no prospect of him being back to full fitness until January, José Mourinho has apparently agreed with the club's board that paying 300,000 pounds a week to renew the player's contract makes no financial sense :ohmy:



Apparently he will be allowed to make a full recovery with United, and may get an extension although that's unlikely.

The good news here is that this definitely means a new striker is coming :thumbs:
Don't know if that would be good news for Martial and Rashford though.



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benteke wrote:
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Zlatan released! :arrow: :scared: Movic is expected to miss the first five months of the season recovering from knee surgery, and with no prospect of him being back to full fitness until January, José Mourinho has apparently agreed with the club's board that paying 300,000 pounds a week to renew the player's contract makes no financial sense :ohmy:



Apparently he will be allowed to make a full recovery with United, and may get an extension although that's unlikely.

The good news here is that this definitely means a new striker is coming :thumbs:
Don't know if that would be good news for Martial and Rashford though.



Morata @ 73M.



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Victor Lindelof announced by United.


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benteke wrote:
balo wrote:
benteke wrote:
Senator WIRES wrote:
Zlatan released! :arrow: :scared: Movic is expected to miss the first five months of the season recovering from knee surgery, and with no prospect of him being back to full fitness until January, José Mourinho has apparently agreed with the club's board that paying 300,000 pounds a week to renew the player's contract makes no financial sense :ohmy:



Apparently he will be allowed to make a full recovery with United, and may get an extension although that's unlikely.

The good news here is that this definitely means a new striker is coming :thumbs:
Don't know if that would be good news for Martial and Rashford though.



Morata @ 73M.



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:rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf:

A very reliable source says you guys have agreed the fee + personal terms for Morata, with his medical scheduled next week. He also claims you guys are trying to also buy Belotti (so, two strikers).

However, Mourinho usually uses Duncan Castles to leak news. And so far, Castles hasnt commented on any United transfers.He didnt even say zilch about Griezmann. its like he has been specifically told not to comment on anything. I wonder why.

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Victor Lindelof announced by United.


For the amount you guys are paying for him, its going to be a bloody steal! Van Dijk is being pursued by many for 60 million pounds, and United has secured this guy for 30 million pounds! Wow! Just like Bailly, I wonder what some clubs are doing rushing to pay overrated sums for players who have "famous names," while players who are actually better are out there.

Lindelof is a modern day CB. My favorite part of his game is that he is so good with the ball at his feet. He has excellent passing ability from the back. You watch him and forget he is a CB, because he passes like a number 10 :clap: :clap:.

Just a clip showing her good he is at his feet:
https://twitter.com/utdcover/status/873672887852511233

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Does the SE have Gray, Mahrez or Albrighton on our team or players of their caliber?


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Oh! Also keep an eye on Fabinho.

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Lindelof joining Man Utd = the end of the road for Mike and/or Jonesy. Neither of them is a bad player, but their careers have been held back by their fragile bodies and inability to get through a run of games without breaking down. It has been like this for 6 years with those two.

Sentimentally perhaps, I was hoping Man U would bring Michael Keane back to the club. In a way he is a 'safer' option that Lindelof because Keane already knows the club, league, country, and city. He would have no issues fitting in and going back to the club and city where he grew up. It would be like a reunion for him to play alongside the guys he won youth trophies with like Pogba and Lingard, then rejoin other former team-mates like De Gea, Tony V, Carrick, Wazza, Young etc. No matter how good he is, we have no idea how a foreign player will adjust to moving (with his family?) to a new country where the weather, culture, food, and social life is totally alien to him. At least Keane would not have those issues.


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Man U cleared in Pogba transfer deal.


http://kwese.espn.com/football/manchest ... e-juventus

Man United cleared over Pogba transfer; FIFA will investigate Juventus


Manchester United have been cleared of any wrongdoing over Paul Pogba's transfer but disciplinary proceedings have been opened against Juventus, FIFA have confirmed.

World football's governing body announced in May they had asked United and Juventus for clarification on all aspects of Pogba's £89.3 million move to Old Trafford last summer.

It came after reports the Frenchman's agent, Mino Raiola, will earn more £41 million from the world record deal.

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United insisted at the time they were relaxed about the investigation after supplying all the relevant documents when the transfer was completed in August.

FIFA have now confirmed they will face no further action.

However, disciplinary proceedings have been opened against Juventus. It is understood Raiola's agreement with the Serie A side could have breached third-party ownership rules.

If they are found guilty, the Italian champions, who also reached the Champions League final, could be hit with a punishment; possibilities range from a fine to a transfer ban.

A FIFA spokesman said: "We can confirm that disciplinary proceedings have been opened against Juventus FC. We cannot comment further as proceedings are ongoing. We can confirm that no disciplinary proceedings have been opened against Manchester United."

Pogba scored nine goals in 51 games last season after returning to Old Trafford from Juventus and led United to a Europa League and EFL Cup double. He had moved to Turin in 2012 after making just seven first-team appearances during his first spell at United.

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Lindelof joining Man Utd = the end of the road for Mike and/or Jonesy. Neither of them is a bad player, but their careers have been held back by their fragile bodies and inability to get through a run of games without breaking down. It has been like this for 6 years with those two.

Sentimentally perhaps, I was hoping Man U would bring Michael Keane back to the club. In a way he is a 'safer' option that Lindelof because Keane already knows the club, league, country, and city. He would have no issues fitting in and going back to the club and city where he grew up. It would be like a reunion for him to play alongside the guys he won youth trophies with like Pogba and Lingard, then rejoin other former team-mates like De Gea, Tony V, Carrick, Wazza, Young etc. No matter how good he is, we have no idea how a foreign player will adjust to moving (with his family?) to a new country where the weather, culture, food, and social life is totally alien to him. At least Keane would not have those issues.

Michael Keane....another english hype! Had a good season at what club again? A kwe kwe club. It is easy to shine in those clubs if you are a keeper or defender.... Football has moved on past these english boys.

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Oloye, I actually think a player looks better if he stands out at a club in the lower part of the division. At a top team you can look like a "captain, leader, legend" when you have a world class CB and brilliant FBs beside you, and three magnificent midfielders in front of you, making sure you have sod all to do all game. It is much harder at the bottom end where a defender has to defend with his life and body, and concentrate non-stop all game while being under constant assault by opposition attackers with no respite.

Keane is no hype job. Rio Ferdinand picked him out as a future England player when Keane was still a youth team player at Man Utd. He was that good even back then.

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Michael Keane....another english hype! Had a good season at what club again? A kwe kwe club. It is easy to shine in those clubs if you are a keeper or defender.... Football has moved on past these english boys.


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Oloye, I actually think a player looks better if he stands out at a club in the lower part of the division. At a top team you can look like a "captain, leader, legend" when you have a world class CB and brilliant FBs beside you, and three magnificent midfielders in front of you, making sure you have sod all to do all game. It is much harder at the bottom end where a defender has to defend with his life and body, and concentrate non-stop all game while being under constant assault by opposition attackers with no respite.

Keane is no hype job. Rio Ferdinand picked him out as a future England player when Keane was still a youth team player at Man Utd. He was that good even back then.

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Michael Keane....another english hype! Had a good season at what club again? A kwe kwe club. It is easy to shine in those clubs if you are a keeper or defender.... Football has moved on past these english boys.

The ex england stars always band together while touting their own. I saw the likes of Ferdinand, Sol and Terry at the level Keane is right now, they were by far better...and i mean far better. So i know the standards am applying to rate him. He is not better than Smalling, Jones or even my Rojo. Even my good old Wes Brown was much better especially his ability to play multiple positions.

He is ok....but not good enough at the level which ManU is striving for. If you are letting the likes of Smalling and Jones go, why do so to go back to Michael who could not push them out of the way.

Ray Wilkins was raging like a lunatic touting him over Liendolf even when he had not seen the guy play,such is the blind patriotism and hype they heap on their players. Throughout the season we have been told how manU were going to sign Dier...bla bla bla.

Truth is ,like Stones this another one made by the British media.

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:rotf: Yeah Ray "The Crab" Wilkins did get carried away didn't he?

Keane is not as good as Rio. Sol, or (Des) Walker. Then again neither are any of the other England defenders. The standard of defending worldwide has declined badly in the last 10 years. Would Darmian have got into the Italy team in the days of Panucci and Torricelli? Would Rojo have got into the Argentine team in the days of Chamot, Ayala, and Poch? Keane is not alone in being not as good as his predecessors. You cannot really blame him for not displacing peak Rio and Vida from the Man U team when he was a 17yo! He blossomed after leaving Man U because he became a man (21).

Lindelof is a good player, but moving to another country can destabilise even the best players (witness ADM, Falcao, Sheva, Torres, Crespo, Pancev, Bergkamp at Inter etc etc). Signing players to play in another country is always a risk - no matter how good they are.



oloye wrote:
The ex england stars always band together while touting their own. I saw the likes of Ferdinand, Sol and Terry at the level Keane is right now, they were by far better...and i mean far better. So i know the standards am applying to rate him. He is not better than Smalling, Jones or even my Rojo. Even my good old Wes Brown was much better especially his ability to play multiple positions.

He is ok....but not good enough at the level which ManU is striving for. If you are letting the likes of Smalling and Jones go, why do so to go back to Michael who could not push them out of the way.

Ray Wilkins was raging like a lunatic touting him over Liendolf even when he had not seen the guy play,such is the blind patriotism and hype they heap on their players. Throughout the season we have been told how manU were going to sign Dier...bla bla bla.

Truth is ,like Stones this another one made by the British media.


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danfo driver wrote:
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Victor Lindelof announced by United.


For the amount you guys are paying for him, its going to be a bloody steal! Van Dijk is being pursued by many for 60 million pounds, and United has secured this guy for 30 million pounds! Wow! Just like Bailly, I wonder what some clubs are doing rushing to pay overrated sums for players who have "famous names," while players who are actually better are out there.

Lindelof is a modern day CB. My favorite part of his game is that he is so good with the ball at his feet. He has excellent passing ability from the back. You watch him and forget he is a CB, because he passes like a number 10 :clap: :clap:.

Just a clip showing her good he is at his feet:
https://twitter.com/utdcover/status/873672887852511233

I take it you are one those dudes who mostly watch highlights, right? How's his defending?


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:rotf: Yeah Ray "The Crab" Wilkins did get carried away didn't he?

Keane is not as good as Rio. Sol, or (Des) Walker. Then again neither are any of the other England defenders. The standard of defending worldwide has declined badly in the last 10 years. Would Darmian have got into the Italy team in the days of Panucci and Torricelli? Would Rojo have got into the Argentine team in the days of Chamot, Ayala, and Poch? Keane is not alone in being not as good as his predecessors. You cannot really blame him for not displacing peak Rio and Vida from the Man U team when he was a 17yo! He blossomed after leaving Man U because he became a man (21).

Lindelof is a good player, but moving to another country can destabilise even the best players (witness ADM, Falcao, Sheva, Torres, Crespo, Pancev, Bergkamp at Inter etc etc). Signing players to play in another country is always a risk - no matter how good they are.





So Keane's main advantage would be that he knows the EPL.
But Manchester United wants to be competing in the latter stages of Champions League, so the board is rightfully aspiring for better quality players like Lindelof, I'm sure they have done their homework on this player,
I also don't think Keane is any better than Smalling or Jones, these two can be good on their day as well, but that's just about it.


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wiseone wrote:
:rotf: Yeah Ray "The Crab" Wilkins did get carried away didn't he?

Keane is not as good as Rio. Sol, or (Des) Walker. Then again neither are any of the other England defenders. The standard of defending worldwide has declined badly in the last 10 years. Would Darmian have got into the Italy team in the days of Panucci and Torricelli? Would Rojo have got into the Argentine team in the days of Chamot, Ayala, and Poch? Keane is not alone in being not as good as his predecessors. You cannot really blame him for not displacing peak Rio and Vida from the Man U team when he was a 17yo! He blossomed after leaving Man U because he became a man (21).

Lindelof is a good player, but moving to another country can destabilise even the best players (witness ADM, Falcao, Sheva, Torres, Crespo, Pancev, Bergkamp at Inter etc etc). Signing players to play in another country is always a risk - no matter how good they are.



oloye wrote:
The ex england stars always band together while touting their own. I saw the likes of Ferdinand, Sol and Terry at the level Keane is right now, they were by far better...and i mean far better. So i know the standards am applying to rate him. He is not better than Smalling, Jones or even my Rojo. Even my good old Wes Brown was much better especially his ability to play multiple positions.

He is ok....but not good enough at the level which ManU is striving for. If you are letting the likes of Smalling and Jones go, why do so to go back to Michael who could not push them out of the way.

Ray Wilkins was raging like a lunatic touting him over Liendolf even when he had not seen the guy play,such is the blind patriotism and hype they heap on their players. Throughout the season we have been told how manU were going to sign Dier...bla bla bla.

Truth is ,like Stones this another one made by the British media.

I am surprised you listes Torres , at this point i think you have grudgingly agreed with me. Torres had great times at Liverpool, his stock rose to 50milla..,i dont know why you mentioned him because he struggled at Chelsea a move across cities as opposed to country. Scheva was done when he came to Chelsea, Falcao was trying to recover from a devastating injury...his move back to another country France has not been bad has it? Players can struggle to settle in a new club for many reasons other than moving across countries and leagues.

The likes of Bailey , Ibra, etc settled well innit? Truth is Michael could come back and still fail to settle,having found a comfortable place at where he is now.

Truth is, he is not better than Smalling or Jones , and if he is not i fail to understand what the hype is all about. Smalling even plays ahead of him for england!

Stop listening to the noise from the media, just like in naija, players and their agents have pr guys in the media who hawk their clients!

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On another note, the sums that Real Madrid are (allegedly) demanding for Morata are outrageous. Morata is good but 70 million is a mental price for someone they just rebought for about 25 million or less. If Man Utd want to spend 70 million on a striker, then they might as well go out and buy PEA who is a better player than Morata and is one of the best in the world.


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On another note, the sums that Real Madrid are (allegedly) demanding for Morata are outrageous. Morata is good but 70 million is a mental price for someone they just rebought for aout 25 million or less. If Man Utd want to spend 70 million on a striker, then they might as well go out and buy PEA who is a better player than Morata and is one of the best in the world.

ManU and indeed the EPL big 3 or 2 have exposed themselves as money miss road clubs. Check out the crazy activities of ManU in the transfer market in the last 2 seasons...if you have a player like Morata, how much will you put on him. Like my yoruba folks would say...Ori ese were o bu? You see awoof why wont you collect your own.

Factor also the saga of DDG into the equation, it becomes like the song..do me i do you!

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Real Madrid (or "That Mob" as SAF called them) are something else. They want 70 million for a reserve striker, yet they were only willing to pay 20-30 million for the second best GK in the world! :shock:

I blame Man Utd for allowing themselves to be repeatedly abused by RM (shelling out 60 million for ADM, but allowing RM to steal Becks for 25 million odd and RVN for 10-12 million). In retrospect, the 80 million for Ronaldo was a bargain. Man Utd should have demanded nothing less than 100 million for a 24 yo who was the best player in the world.

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ManU and indeed the EPL big 3 or 2 have exposed themselves as money miss road clubs. Check out the crazy activities of ManU in the transfer market in the last 2 seasons...if you have a player like Morata, how much will you put on him. Like my yoruba folks would say...Ori ese were o bu? You see awoof why wont you collect your own.

Factor also the saga of DDG into the equation, it becomes like the song..do me i do you!


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Real Madrid (or "That Mob" as SAF called them) are something else. They want 70 million for a reserve striker, yet they were only willing to pay 20-30 million for the second best GK in the world! :shock:

I blame Man Utd for allowing themselves to be repeatedly abused by RM (shelling out 60 million for ADM, but allowing RM to steal Becks for 25 million odd and RVN for 10-12 million). In retrospect, the 80 million for Ronaldo was a bargain. Man Utd should have demanded nothing less than 100 million for a 24 yo who was the best player in the world.

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ManU and indeed the EPL big 3 or 2 have exposed themselves as money miss road clubs. Check out the crazy activities of ManU in the transfer market in the last 2 seasons...if you have a player like Morata, how much will you put on him. Like my yoruba folks would say...Ori ese were o bu? You see awoof why wont you collect your own.

Factor also the saga of DDG into the equation, it becomes like the song..do me i do you!


I do get your points.
But for the time being I'd like to think all this talk of Morata, Keane etc are still rumours.

But definitely when we come back to this thread around September on deadline day after the likes of Mbappe, Aubameyang etc made their moves, that Pogba transfer fee may become small and he may become a steal :mrgreen:

By the way FIFA won't be investigating United any further on that deal ....


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Any truth in the rumours about Nemanja Matic and Fabinho to United


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40 million for matic :lol: :lol: :lol:

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