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PostPosted: Wed Feb 21, 2018 9:01 pm 
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The LVG/SAF-esque injuries have not helped Pogba settle in. Andrew Smith and Fellaini could be the etxra man in midfield to help free Pogba to push forward. Sadly they have joined the long injury list:

Valencia
Jonesy
Mark Red
Blind
Andrew Smith
Fellaini
Rashford
Zlatan

When you add that to Carrick and Pogba who just returned from injury - Man Utd look very light in midfield.

Valencia starting so where you get this injuries story?


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PostPosted: Wed Feb 21, 2018 10:09 pm 
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He was injured last week and was unavailable for the Everton game (he was injured - not rested). Sometimes footballers have injuries that heal and allow them to resume their career!

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Valencia starting so where you get this injuries story?


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PostPosted: Fri Feb 23, 2018 1:35 pm 
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Pogba being treated like a bouncer by single-minded Mourinho
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Signed to be the centrepiece of the new United, the £89m man is suffering at the hands of a manager who wants to harness his power, not his finesse

Jose Mourinho gave the BT Sport reporter Des Kelly a hug in his Champions League post-match interview on Wednesday. Why? Des asked him about Scott McTominay, who started against Sevilla, rather than Paul Pogba, who didn't. It gave Mourinho the opportunity to wax lyrical about all the things the young midfielder could do while at the same time hinting at the things Pogba could not.

“He did everything well,” the Manchester United manager said of McTominay's display in the last 16 first leg. “He put lots of pressure on Banega, which was important to stop him to play. He was always comfortable - simple, safe in possession. I think he was brilliant.

“But I have also to say that in my opinion the midfield started really well. And then when Herrera came out Paul made a big effort to go into that dynamic that we need. And I think he had also a positive performance.”

There you have it. The 21-year-old making only his second Champions League start was “brilliant”. Pogba, a veteran of Champions League and European Championship finals, and with four Serie A title and an £89 million price tag to his name “made a big effort”.

It clearly demonstrates the attitude Mourinho currently harbours towards the most talented player in his squad. He wants him to do things – like press Ever Banega and play simple, safe passes deep in midfield – that would seem to run contrary to his skillset.

He doesn’t want Pogba to be United’s Mesut Ozil – as his attributes suggest he could be. He would appear to have little interest in unlocking his creative potential. Rather, he wants another Nemanja Matic. In the midfield position, he demands discipline, destruction and caution in possession. And he wants Pogba to do it for him.

Mourinho looks at Pogba and maybe sees a player who should be good at those things. But appearances can be deceptive. Just because Pogba is a big, powerful man, it doesn’t mean he is best deployed as a bouncer.

Nor in any sane universe should he find himself behind McTominay in the pecking order. It is nothing short of insulting for a player of his standing to be told to sit and learn from an apprentice with no more than 20 games played in his senior United career.


Pogba should feel more aggrieved by his latest demotion than the one he suffered under Sir Alex Ferguson before he decided to walk out on a free transfer to Juventus. Back then, it was Rafael and Park Ji-sung keeping him out of the team for a home defeat against Blackburn Rovers which seemingly swayed Pogba – and agent Mino Raiola – into thinking the player's future lay away from Old Trafford.

Now Mourinho is attempting to do with Pogba what he has done with more than one United player since turning up at Old Trafford.

The 2004 and 2010 Champions League winner has a very clearly defined strategy in how he wants his teams to defend. Once those fundamentals have been taken care of, then the team can start thinking about how the goals are going to come. Everyone has a job in this defensive structure and everyone will follow it or else risked being dropped.

It is not a case of Mourinho fitting a shape around the abilities of his player but the players fitting around the shape. Luke Shaw, Anthony Martial and Henrikh Mkhitaryan have all been victims of this aspect of Mourinho’s management style. If a player will not do the exact job he asks, the player will be banished, no matter what he cost.

Subjecting Pogba to this technique, however, is to misinterpret the kind of player Mourinho has on his hands. Pogba is not the type who should be shoehorned into a broadly reactive style of football. He is one who should be the focal point in a positive, attacking team.

Mourinho’s pre- and post-match press conferences in Sevilla were dominated by speculation over Pogba’s place in the team and it’s easy to figure out why. Mourinho feigned exasperation over those questions but has got to accept that scrutiny of that kind of decision comes with the territory

It was accepted at the outset of Mourinho’s regime that Pogba was going to be the centrepiece of the New Manchester United – a long-term investment to construct a team around. Less than two seasons later and it is clear that this is not the case. For now, Mourinho regards him as a luxury player - not to be trusted in the highest-profile European match of the season.

It gives a glimmer too into what direction Mourinho sees United heading. He has added not only Pogba but Romelu Lukaku and Alexis Sanchez to his squad but it appears he is putting together what will eventually be a functional, counter-attack machine when it takes its final shape.

It is a pretty rudimentary prospect and one which – perhaps – falls short of expectations on this club given its status as the world’s richest by revenues. All that money and this is where Mourinho wants to take them.

There is undoubtedly a need to spend big again this summer in order to get United up a level. But it’s inevitable that if Mourinho gets his way there’ll be more Matics than Pogbas arriving and within that system there will always be a space for a McTominay, who will press, harry and destroy exactly like his manager tells him

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 23, 2018 3:36 pm 
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The press love to make a big song and dance about everything Mourinho does. The reason he picks Scott McTominay instead of Pogba is not because Scott is a better player than PP. It is because a young player like Scott who just broke into the first team and who is grateful to be playing for his childhood club alongside players he used to watch on TV as a kid, will do EXACTLY what the manager tells him and will stick to the tactical plan - just so he can stay in the team. Whereas one of the most famous players in the world is more likely to resist tactical instructions and have his own independent ideas about how he should best be deployed.


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PostPosted: Fri Feb 23, 2018 4:52 pm 
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Pogba should never have signed for Man utd. He should have seen this coming. It's his own fault.


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PostPosted: Fri Feb 23, 2018 5:22 pm 
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Pogba should never have signed for Man utd. He should have seen this coming. It's his own fault.

No other club was prepared to pay that ridiculous transfer fee for him and Juventus wanted to rationalise their asset.

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 23, 2018 7:10 pm 
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guest83 wrote:
Pogba should never have signed for Man utd. He should have seen this coming. It's his own fault.

I agree with you....he should have waited for you to come and sign him :lol: Una sef....not everytime do you get the opportunity to be signed for that amount.

Usually the player and his agents would have discussed with the coach to find out what plans or role or in what capacity he would be used. Unless maybe it was just the money they were after.

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 23, 2018 7:27 pm 
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At the end of the day it was is own decision to sign. I understand the crazy money involved but still..this is on him. Everyone knows Mourinho is an assh...


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At the end of the day it was is own decision to sign. I understand the crazy money involved but still..this is on him. Everyone knows Mourinho is an assh...

The power of ego can make a devil look like an angel.

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 23, 2018 9:07 pm 
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Hopefully what has happend with Pogba and for that matter Neymar, could change the market a bit? I mean, so that it won't be only a matter of money. Because both players look miserable even with all the money they are making.


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PostPosted: Tue Feb 27, 2018 5:24 pm 
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Updated injury list:

Jonesy (of course!)
Mark Red (of course!)
Blind
Andrew Smith (out for 6 more weeks - in addition to the 1-2 months he has already been out injured)
Fellaini
Zlatan

There will be vacancies in the squad next season due to the likely departures of Zlatan and Carrick, and Fellaini and Blind who are in the final year of their contracts. I cannot imagine that Darmian will hang around in the stands for much longer.


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Two astonishing stats from the Palace -v- Man Utd game earlier this week:

1) Sanchez gave the ball away 19 (NINETEEN!) times in the first half alone. :shock:

2) When Palace were 2-0 up, they were 13th in the table. When Man Utd equalised, they dropped back into the relegation zone.


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 09, 2018 6:36 pm 
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Two astonishing stats from the Palace -v- Man Utd game earlier this week:

1) Sanchez gave the ball away 19 (NINETEEN!) times in the first half alone. :shock:

2) When Palace were 2-0 up, they were 13th in the table. When Man Utd equalised, they dropped back into the relegation zone.

On Sanchez and his famous turnovers, I have observed him very closely since joining United. His issue is easily corrected. At Arsenal, I thought it was a simple case of him trying so hard to break the opponents but I've now observed that it's a case of poor decision-making. Sanchez, a huge top professional, keeps making the amateur mistake of going for the spectacular and not keeping things simple.

Most often Sanchez had better choices but kept forcing the ball to the middle of the attack fruitlessly trying to locate a tightly marked Lukaku. A simpler choice in most of these cases was to roll the ball to his overlapping wingback/fullback. For some strange reason, Sanchez appear not to be in favor of passing to advancing wingbacks. I'm still exploring why? Maybe because he is not an aerial threat so he is not in favor of attacking via crosses from the wings so prefers targeting his main striker hoping for a 1-2 exchange to free him up for scoring opportunities.

This issue must be corrected. He must learn to mix things up and not stick with one approach.

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 09, 2018 8:16 pm 
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On current form, Sanchez should not be in the first 11. I would put him on the bench for the Liverpool game.


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i am feeling good about this Pool game

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 09, 2018 10:54 pm 
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What's this news about Pogba injury scare and that he might not start.
I hope he starts


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How negative will the coward set up his team at home against Liverpool?

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metalalloy wrote:
How negative will the coward set up his team at home against Liverpool?


:rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf:

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How negative will the coward set up his team at home against Liverpool?


:rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf:


MentallyRetardedAlbrighton. :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf:

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Does the SE have Gray, Mahrez or Albrighton on our team or players of their caliber?


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metalalloy wrote:
How negative will the coward set up his team at home against Liverpool?


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Felt if we wanted to beat liverpool by more than 3 goals, he would have brought lingard on earlier, we have an important game on Tuesday so we took that into consideration

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guys

let's talk about Our Scott. A few weeks ago I was wondering what Jose was doing playing him ahead of Pogba.

This kid has come in and played to instruction against Chelsea and against Pool

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