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MIAMI -- On the last of Manchester United's 17 nights in the United States, there was at last a shred of positivity.

A 2-1 win over European champions Real Madrid in Miami's Hard Rock Stadium added a bit of shine to a tour that has, for the most part, been played out under a cloud.

It started badly and, over the course of more than two weeks, gradually got worse.

First there was Alexis Sanchez, left at home while the rest of the squad flew to Los Angeles because of a visa issue. It was particularly unfortunate the news broke just hours after United's official website had published an article about how the Chile star would be ready to rediscover his best form after a first summer off since 2013 and a full preseason.

That was out of Mourinho's control.

What he could control, though, was the tone he set from the minute he got in front of the cameras.

His first news conference of the summer started with handshakes for the 10 English journalists who had followed the team across the Atlantic. It may seem like a small gesture, but it hasn't always happened and it felt to those in attendance that it might be a sign of the United's manager's improving mood.

Then he started talking.

Tough. Worried. Bad. Really bad -- just some of the words Mourinho used to describe a trip that had not even really begun.
Then it was on to Paul Pogba. The question was whether Mourinho was looking forward to welcoming back a player who should be full of confidence after winning the World Cup. But instead of saying yes and congratulating his man, he suggested the midfielder should think long and hard about what had made him successful in Russia.

He went further in an interview with ESPN FC a few days later, telling Pogba his performances for France had improved because he had been fully focused on football. The message was clear. No nightclubs, no entourage and no distractions equalled better football.

The uncertainty surrounding Anthony Martial's future caused another problem.

The France international has let it be known he wants to leave Old Trafford this summer. Sources have told ESPN FC Mourinho is willing to let him go, insisting he does not want players in his dressing room who do not want to be there.

Ed Woodward, meanwhile, is under no pressure to sell a 22-year-old with two years left on his contract who could go on to become one of the best players in the world.

Sources have told ESPN FC the differing stances has caused friction between the pair, as has their approach to transfers.

Mourinho wants two more players before the deadline -- a centre-back and a right winger -- but Woodward is working in a difficult summer complicated by the World Cup and a shorter window.

As rumours of growing tensions increased, a meeting between Woodward and the Manchester-based journalists on tour, scheduled for Miami the night before the Real Madrid game, was cancelled.

The traditional sit-down summer interview with the United manager also never happened -- only the third time in more than 20 years it has not gone ahead.

Woodward's official reason was his busy schedule. Mourinho claimed his decision was in response to a perceived lack of support from the press.

The official line from the communications department was that everything was fine -- that Mourinho was happy and smiling on the training pitch and around the team hotel. But that felt like a ruse.
Mourinho's unhappiness, at least in public, peaked in Ann Arbor.

After the heavy 4-1 defeat to Liverpool in Michigan, he hit out at newly appointed club captain Antonio Valencia by suggesting the calf injury that forced the Ecuadorian out of the tour had been caused because he had returned from his break out of shape. "Too much holiday," was the way it was worded.

Then, in an interview with in-house television channel MUTV at the Big House, he questioned why Martial had not returned to the U.S. following the birth of his son.

It was unprompted, and caused enough concern among United staff members that they wanted to check what was said before it was given the green light to be aired. In the end, a communication mix-up between the team in Michigan and the one in Manchester meant it went out straight away.

In other postmatch comments he said he did not know why American fans would pay to watch his depleted squad and said Eric Bailly was "not a leader."

The were plenty of other odd moments, too, like letting Chris Smalling stride up to take the decisive penalty in the shootout against AC Milan in Los Angeles before calling him back. Goalkeeper Joel Pereira stepped up instead and missed.

At the same time, Mourinho's injury list was growing by the day. Nemanja Matic was sent home after having surgery in Philadelphia for a hernia problem. Sources have told ESPN FC that the Serbian tried to play through the pain -- he trained once in L.A. -- until the medical staff accepted the problem would not get better on its own.

At Barry University in Florida, a day before the clash with Real Madrid, only five senior players -- Juan Mata, Fred, Luke Shaw, Matteo Darmian and Sanchez -- were able to train.

Darmian, who publicly admitted during a mixed zone interview that he wants to leave, had to start the final three games. Mourinho is willing to let him go, probably back to Italy, but wants reinforcements first and that is controlled by Woodward.

There was an awkward moment after the game against Real Madrid when United's executive vice-chairman was caught on video chasing Mourinho down the tunnel, shouting: "Jose, Jose". The embrace and brief conversation didn't look like two people on the same page, at least from the outside.


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So I went to DC to attend Juve-Madrid and after the match, I noticed Allegri doesn't really speak English...but he kind of understands questions in English and apparently has been learning English.
Most of the Italian journos think it's just because he wants to communicate better with players but I think that's naive. I truly think he is positioning himself for a job in the Premier League and I can only see one top job most likely opening soon. United.

Hear me out.

Can't you see (Unless Mourinho wins the league this season) if United end up not winning anything and not going for in the CL or worse.. finishing lower than Liverpool in the league this season and Mourinho doing Mourinho things with the media, referees, opposing managers and his own players.... Mourinho and United parting ways. What top manager will be available?
Now consider...Juventus, Allegri will have his best chance to win the CL now he has Cristiano, a stronger backline, (weaker GK though) but if he fails to win it, how much longer will he keep trying at Juve? He has nothing to really gain in winning another Scudetto with them. No point going back to Milan. All the other top teams in Europe have new managers or managers they are happy with for now ...other than United.

Allegri....one of the managers out there to have coaxed the best out of Pogba....making the move to the Premier League and United.


And as for Juve? The return of Zinedine Zidane to manage the squad. More believable than Zidane going to United.

Am I crazy for thinking this or has anyone else thought this could/should happen?

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F360 wrote:
So I went to DC to attend Juve-Madrid and after the match, I noticed Allegri doesn't really speak English...but he kind of understands questions in English and apparently has been learning English.
Most of the Italian journos think it's just because he wants to communicate better with players but I think that's naive. I truly think he is positioning himself for a job in the Premier League and I can only see one top job most likely opening soon. United.

Hear me out.

Can't you see (Unless Mourinho wins the league this season) if United end up not winning anything and not going for in the CL or worse.. finishing lower than Liverpool in the league this season and Mourinho doing Mourinho things with the media, referees, opposing managers and his own players.... Mourinho and United parting ways. What top manager will be available?
Now consider...Juventus, Allegri will have his best chance to win the CL now he has Cristiano, a stronger backline, (weaker GK though) but if he fails to win it, how much longer will he keep trying at Juve? He has nothing to really gain in winning another Scudetto with them. No point going back to Milan. All the other top teams in Europe have new managers or managers they are happy with for now ...other than United.

Allegri....one of the managers out there to have coaxed the best out of Pogba....making the move to the Premier League and United.


And as for Juve? The return of Zinedine Zidane to manage the squad. More believable than Zidane going to United.

Am I crazy for thinking this or has anyone else thought this could/should happen?


You are right that JM will be out of job soon! United the likely club to drop out of the TOP 4! United may have to beg Alex to come back.

Not sure that Moyes will not even be a better option now for United :taunt:

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Satire of the highest order (skysports.com):
“The players were, once more, brilliant. They could not have done better than what they did, fantastic experience for the boys.

"There was a moment I was looking to the area and there was Axel at centre-back to left, Demetri at left wing-back, Garner in midfield on the left and Chong. At the same time it was Lewandowski on Axel, Robben on Mitchell, (Leon) Goretzka on Garner and (Niklas) Sule on Chong”.

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Man Utd loan watch:

Tuanzebe has returned to Aston Villa and Fosu-Mensah will spend the season at Hertha Berlin in the Bundesliga. Good moves for both of them as it guarantees them a game every week. They are not likely to get games with Valencia, Young, Bailly, Jonesy, Mike Smalling, Lindelof, Mark Red, Shaw, Dalot, and Darmian (what is he still doing at the club?!) ahead of them.

Dalot is a bizarre signing. Unless he is a significant upgrade on Tuanzebe and Fosu-Mensah (unlikely), spending 17 million on another untested, unproven young defender who will block Tuanzebe and Fosu-Mensah's path to the first team, seems very strange. Another un-needed signing like Lindelof.

Young GK Sam Johnstone has been transferred to WBA.

Could this be the breakthrough season for young Andreas Pereira?


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Man Utd got offer for Pogba from Barca ? Gomes + Mina + $50m ... That naa insult if true.

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Man Utd loan watch:

Tuanzebe has returned to Aston Villa and Fosu-Mensah will spend the season at Hertha Berlin in the Bundesliga. Good moves for both of them as it guarantees them a game every week. They are not likely to get games with Valencia, Young, Bailly, Jonesy, Mike Smalling, Lindelof, Mark Red, Shaw, Dalot, and Darmian (what is he still doing at the club?!) ahead of them.

Dalot is a bizarre signing. Unless he is a significant upgrade on Tuanzebe and Fosu-Mensah (unlikely), spending 17 million on another untested, unproven young defender who will block Tuanzebe and Fosu-Mensah's path to the first team, seems very strange. Another un-needed signing like Lindelof.

Young GK Sam Johnstone has been transferred to WBA.

Could this be the breakthrough season for young Andreas Pereira?


Is there any thought to all the purchases by Man U? No obvious strategic intent. No purchases to address identified needs.

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A bit haphazard. Fred/DM was needed to come in for the retired Carrick. Biggest squad reinforcement needs were cover at RB for Tony V and a MOBILE CM. Dalot (young and untested) is not the short-term answer. Ironically the answer to some of Man Utd's squad gaps may be lurking in the youth team. Two of them (Fosu-Mensah and Tuanzebe) have been sent out on loan. Andreas Pereira may get picked because Matic is injured, and Pogba and Fellaini are on extended post-World Cup break.


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Seems Pogba wants out, everyone getting weary of playing for mourinho these days

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Seems Pogba wants out, everyone getting weary of playing for mourinho these days


really?
where? any quotes?. thanks


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A bit haphazard. Fred/DM was needed to come in for the retired Carrick. Biggest squad reinforcement needs were cover at RB for Tony V and a MOBILE CM. Dalot (young and untested) is not the short-term answer. Ironically the answer to some of Man Utd's squad gaps may be lurking in the youth team. Two of them (Fosu-Mensah and Tuanzebe) have been sent out on loan. Andreas Pereira may get picked because Matic is injured, and Pogba and Fellaini are on extended post-World Cup break.


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Is there any thought to all the purchases by Man U? No obvious strategic intent. No purchases to address identified needs.


Considering how much he has spent of recent, JM should not be complaining. Problem is always buying what he does not need. He may be getting a 'cut' from the various deals!

He is mismanaging the team! He can only motivate 'hungry' players and not stars. He will always fallout with stars with ego.

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F360 wrote:
So I went to DC to attend Juve-Madrid and after the match, I noticed Allegri doesn't really speak English...but he kind of understands questions in English and apparently has been learning English.
Most of the Italian journos think it's just because he wants to communicate better with players but I think that's naive. I truly think he is positioning himself for a job in the Premier League and I can only see one top job most likely opening soon. United.

Hear me out.

Can't you see (Unless Mourinho wins the league this season) if United end up not winning anything and not going for in the CL or worse.. finishing lower than Liverpool in the league this season and Mourinho doing Mourinho things with the media, referees, opposing managers and his own players.... Mourinho and United parting ways. What top manager will be available?
Now consider...Juventus, Allegri will have his best chance to win the CL now he has Cristiano, a stronger backline, (weaker GK though) but if he fails to win it, how much longer will he keep trying at Juve? He has nothing to really gain in winning another Scudetto with them. No point going back to Milan. All the other top teams in Europe have new managers or managers they are happy with for now ...other than United.

Allegri....one of the managers out there to have coaxed the best out of Pogba....making the move to the Premier League and United.


And as for Juve? The return of Zinedine Zidane to manage the squad. More believable than Zidane going to United.

Am I crazy for thinking this or has anyone else thought this could/should happen?


You are right that JM will be out of job soon! United the likely club to drop out of the TOP 4! United may have to beg Alex to come back.


:lol: :lol:

you people are comedians.

United out of Top 4...based on what exactly? press snippets?

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About damn time. This guy has never discovered and nurtured one young talent to greatness.

https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football ... ssion=true


:?

did you even read the article?
How many of City's players came through the ranks?

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for the doom and gloom merchants who lap up everything the msm puts out there

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Its like JM the Donald Trump of football.
Saying the truth about media.
I mean I was thinking beloved finish ahead of Manu from what this media are saying about Jose and Manu.
I mean a team that keep 19 clean sheet last season,did not open nyash to Liverpool,Arsenal etc and even beat City away.


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Manu playing today?Wow EPL kick off today.
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wanaj0 wrote:
F360 wrote:
So I went to DC to attend Juve-Madrid and after the match, I noticed Allegri doesn't really speak English...but he kind of understands questions in English and apparently has been learning English.
Most of the Italian journos think it's just because he wants to communicate better with players but I think that's naive. I truly think he is positioning himself for a job in the Premier League and I can only see one top job most likely opening soon. United.

Hear me out.

Can't you see (Unless Mourinho wins the league this season) if United end up not winning anything and not going for in the CL or worse.. finishing lower than Liverpool in the league this season and Mourinho doing Mourinho things with the media, referees, opposing managers and his own players.... Mourinho and United parting ways. What top manager will be available?
Now consider...Juventus, Allegri will have his best chance to win the CL now he has Cristiano, a stronger backline, (weaker GK though) but if he fails to win it, how much longer will he keep trying at Juve? He has nothing to really gain in winning another Scudetto with them. No point going back to Milan. All the other top teams in Europe have new managers or managers they are happy with for now ...other than United.

Allegri....one of the managers out there to have coaxed the best out of Pogba....making the move to the Premier League and United.


And as for Juve? The return of Zinedine Zidane to manage the squad. More believable than Zidane going to United.

Am I crazy for thinking this or has anyone else thought this could/should happen?


You are right that JM will be out of job soon! United the likely club to drop out of the TOP 4! United may have to beg Alex to come back.


:lol: :lol:

you people are comedians.

United out of Top 4...based on what exactly? press snippets?

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Have to say I couldn't agree more with you.

Its almost like football is being decided by how many players you sign or how many useless pre-season games you win.

Its just plain ridiculous!

And btw, I'm not buying Jose's "woe is me" act...I suspect United is far more ready than he is letting on...

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wanaj0 wrote:
F360 wrote:
So I went to DC to attend Juve-Madrid and after the match, I noticed Allegri doesn't really speak English...but he kind of understands questions in English and apparently has been learning English.
Most of the Italian journos think it's just because he wants to communicate better with players but I think that's naive. I truly think he is positioning himself for a job in the Premier League and I can only see one top job most likely opening soon. United.

Hear me out.

Can't you see (Unless Mourinho wins the league this season) if United end up not winning anything and not going for in the CL or worse.. finishing lower than Liverpool in the league this season and Mourinho doing Mourinho things with the media, referees, opposing managers and his own players.... Mourinho and United parting ways. What top manager will be available?
Now consider...Juventus, Allegri will have his best chance to win the CL now he has Cristiano, a stronger backline, (weaker GK though) but if he fails to win it, how much longer will he keep trying at Juve? He has nothing to really gain in winning another Scudetto with them. No point going back to Milan. All the other top teams in Europe have new managers or managers they are happy with for now ...other than United.

Allegri....one of the managers out there to have coaxed the best out of Pogba....making the move to the Premier League and United.


And as for Juve? The return of Zinedine Zidane to manage the squad. More believable than Zidane going to United.

Am I crazy for thinking this or has anyone else thought this could/should happen?


You are right that JM will be out of job soon! United the likely club to drop out of the TOP 4! United may have to beg Alex to come back.


:lol: :lol:

you people are comedians.

United out of Top 4...based on what exactly? press snippets?

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Have to say I couldn't agree more with you.

Its almost like football is being decided by how many players you sign or how many useless pre-season games you win.

Its just plain ridiculous!

And btw, I'm not buying Jose's "woe is me" act...I suspect United is far more ready than he is letting on...


Of course United is. This is just an act and anyone buying it should go get his head examined.

However, it is quite amusing that some of the same clowns that made fun of Conte last year for claiming he did not get support in the transfer market are shockingly quiet now that Mourinho is moaning all over the place about pretty much the same thing. :lol:

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