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PostPosted: Sat Sep 08, 2018 9:22 pm 
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At France he plays in front of defenders called Umtiti and Varane, beside midfielders called Kante, and Matuidi, and behind attackers named Griezmann, Mbappe, and Dembele. Benzema, Coman, Rabiot, Laporte, et al did not even make the squad. The players he plays with for France are much better players than his Man Utd teammates. Even the excluded players I named above would walk into Man Utd's first 11.



Bingo :!:
So the problem at United is more of a playing personell issue, lack of world class quality, like the manager suggested, much to the angst of many a fan and pundit.


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PostPosted: Sat Sep 08, 2018 11:10 pm 
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I am ambivalent about the Pogba being unhappy rumours. Even if he and JM do not get along, so what? Pogba is under contract and is too valuable to be sold. Or even if Man U decide to sell him, the price will be so high that they will be able to buy half a team with the transfer money.



But i thought Pogba would be more mature by now and realise that he has actually been treated well by United fans, they defended him all the time when he was struggling, he has not done anything of note at United, he has not played 6 good games in a row in all his time at Manchester, and he doesn't seem to realise what an honour it is for him to be given that armband, i think the club will do well to quickly accept 100million for him and try to get two serious players.

All this not happy stuff is the work of the agents and their planted agents in the media. Guess how much the vermin's stand to make if Pogba is sold for another mega bucks. The rich will keep getting richer, it is these vermin's now creating the atmosphere that forces players to move in order for them to get their customary cut.
You guys will be surprised the manner of organisations these agents are fronting for.



But also you can see where i am coming from.
I always cry about racism, and then there goes Mourinho and brings this black boy to Manchester United, for a record fee. And goes ahead to defend to black boys Pogba and Lukaku from criticism.
But this one called Pogba, i don't think he is repaying the favour, he is not doing me any justice when i argue for blacks :rotf:


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PostPosted: Sat Sep 08, 2018 11:51 pm 
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At France he plays in front of defenders called Umtiti and Varane, beside midfielders called Kante, and Matuidi, and behind attackers named Griezmann, Mbappe, and Dembele. Benzema, Coman, Rabiot, Laporte, et al did not even make the squad. The players he plays with for France are much better players than his Man Utd teammates. Even the excluded players I named above would walk into Man Utd's first 11.



Bingo :!:
So the problem at United is more of a playing personell issue, lack of world class quality, like the manager suggested, much to the angst of many a fan and pundit.


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PostPosted: Sun Sep 09, 2018 3:39 pm 
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Man Utd still have good players. France has brilliant players. The complaints against JM are mainly about the STYLE of play. When you have Sanchez, Martial, Rashford, Lingard, Lukaku, Mata, Pereira, and Herrera in your team, your primary method of attack should not be playing medieval football or hoofing it up to Fellaini's head. You also should not be sitting back at home against Leicester and hiding in defence like a frightened 5 yo hiding under a blanket.


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Bingo :!:
So the problem at United is more of a playing personell issue, lack of world class quality, like the manager suggested, much to the angst of many a fan and pundit.

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it's easier to blame the manager

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Exactly with the talent we have, we should be defending against any team called Leicester! Especially playing at home, is this too much to ask for?

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 09, 2018 11:02 pm 
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WRONG

The main complaints are:
1. he throws players under the bus - when i ask for evidence, NOTHING
2. he complains too much
3. he does not praise his players
4. we're too defensive - football Einsteins don't realise that we had the 2nd best defence last term

Leicester game was not the norm though, why not use the Spurs game (at 0-0).
Oh right, it does not fit your narrative.

Will we play defensive against Watford? I hope so.

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Man Utd still have good players. France has brilliant players. The complaints against JM are mainly about the STYLE of play. When you have Sanchez, Martial, Rashford, Lingard, Lukaku, Mata, Pereira, and Herrera in your team, your primary method of attack should not be playing medieval football or hoofing it up to Fellaini's head. You also should not be sitting back at home against Leicester and hiding in defence like a frightened 5 yo hiding under a blanket.


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PostPosted: Tue Sep 11, 2018 12:27 pm 
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we defend at home and that has been the norm for now, we all have eyes and can see this! let them go out and frigging attack, even if we lose, i will be happy

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marko wrote:
we defend at home and that has been the norm for now, we all have eyes and can see this! let them go out and frigging attack, even if we lose, i will be happy


really?
i don't recall us doing that against Spurs, but maybe i watched a diff game.

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tfco wrote:
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we defend at home and that has been the norm for now, we all have eyes and can see this! let them go out and frigging attack, even if we lose, i will be happy


really?
i don't recall us doing that against Spurs, but maybe i watched a diff game.

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Mourinho's teams never get credit for the times that they attack, i noticed that when he won his last title at Chelsea, the August to December attacking run has been forgotten for ever :rotf:


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Please attack like all old traditional united teams have done for decades, thats not too much to ask for, we playing Watford tonight, lets see what happens

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 15, 2018 8:20 am 
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Romelu Lukaku doesn't understand why people don't appreciate Jose Mourinho's 'realness'.

Lukaku says the Portuguese is a family man, makes the players laugh and fights for them, and deserves respect.

"People know a side from him which is he's a winner," said Lukaku.

"But what I like about him is he's not going to fake his emotions. When he's mad, you know he is mad. When he's happy, you see he is happy.

"I don't understand why people don't like the realness about him. When he's mad at me I know he is mad at me, and I try to do what he wants so he is happy again."

Lukaku, 25, says Mourinho will not shy away from confrontation when he is unhappy with the way his players or the team are performing.

"Sometimes footballers, we get soft a little bit," added Lukaku. "If I listen to players from back in the day and now, a manager cannot say what he wants to a player because you feel attacked.

"But I don't feel attacked, because that's who I am - I am a tough man, but that doesn't come from football, that comes from my background.

"My relationship with him is cool. He makes me laugh, he makes the players laugh, he's a real family guy. He fights for his players, but he's real. When you're not happy, you don't need to fake your emotions.

"People need to appreciate that, at least there are people who are real in this world like him. Because most of the managers in the league, when they are not happy they try to find a way to seem happy.

"You should respect that he wants to keep his own personality and not shy away from confrontation. Here, he really wants us to improve. He is a normal guy, we get along well. He is cool with everybody."

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Please attack like all old traditional united teams have done for decades, thats not too much to ask for, we playing Watford tonight, lets see what happens


:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Are you changing your story? AGAIN?

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2 defeats for the great Poch

Crisis?
Has he lost the dressing room?
Should he have bought in the summer?

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2 defeats for the great Poch

Crisis?
Has he lost the dressing room?
Should he have bought in the summer?

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Still mad at the media? It’s been explained to you but I guess it didn’t sink in. Manchester United is Manchester United :D .

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 15, 2018 6:03 pm 
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Please attack like all old traditional united teams have done for decades, thats not too much to ask for, we playing Watford tonight, lets see what happens


:lol: :lol:
Game is ongoing
We are defending...at least that's what you see

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Marko, don't look now
A defender has scored

WE ARE DEFENDING

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Watford
Won 4 games to start the season.

We beat them. IKWW

Let's go United!!!

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..but internet coaches will not let us rest
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You can usually tell how much a fan really knows about football by their opinion of 2 players: Carrick and Fellaini.

Today's game was an excellent demonstration of the best and worst of Fellaini. He constantly gave the ball away and dithered in possession. Yet he won every thing in the air and was an utter menace for Watford when Man U had attacking set pieces. He is one of those players that only the "educated" fans appreciate because he does things that are hard to "see", but are nonetheless really important to his team (intercepting, breaking up play etc). He does not score prolifically, dribble, or hit 35 yard free kicks into the top corner, so fans do not always realise how good a player he is. Other observations:

1) Lukaku was excellent (I actually think he should have been MOTM). He led the line, held the ball up, his movement was good, and he often came charging back to help his defence. He constantly keeps opposition defenders occupied. However he has a first touch like a baby rhino. He has to improve his first touch if he wants to join the absolute elite group of strikers (Lewa, Aguero etc).

2) Miracle Dave pulls off a worldie every game. His saves to deny Gray in the first half and Kabasele in injury time (94th minute) were simply breathtaking. He pulls of miraculous saves so often that his teammates have become immune to it and no longer bother to congratulate him/do the backslapping etc. I have never seen a GK at this level pull off Spiderman reflex saves with such frequency. If he carries on doing this, I will have no option but to conclude that he: (a) has been genetically enhanced in some secret government experiment; or (b) is not a human being.

3) Matic does not look fully fit/recovered from his surgery. I think the midfield may look more lively with Andrew Smith.

4) How or why is Victor Lindelof an employee of Manchester United Football Club? What is he good at? Is he part of some affirmative action programme to ensure that a Swedish player plays for Mn Utd?

5) Pogba is an outrageously talented player. Sometimes when a player has so much talent, he tries to show off how good he is, rather than play the simple ball. He often over-elaborates for this reason. Fewer stepovers and quicker ball release please.

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 16, 2018 8:32 am 
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We only beat watford! We will not win the league beating the likes of watford, we have to beat the top 6 like city did last season, its that simple, hes good valuable 3 points, smalling has been doing this for years, no surprises here, we need more consistency, watford nearly pulled back a goal at the dying minutes, right now we playing functional football, nothing more to add

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I disagree - the only way to win the league is by "beating the likes of Watford"! FYI Watford was undefeated this season and had a 100% record having won every game, until...they faced Man U! FYI Watford was also in the top 6 (they were 3rd in the table before playing Man U).

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We only beat watford! We will not win the league beating the likes of watford, we have to beat the top 6 like city did last season, its that simple, hes good valuable 3 points, smalling has been doing this for years, no surprises here, we need more consistency, watford nearly pulled back a goal at the dying minutes, right now we playing functional football, nothing more to add


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