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PostPosted: Tue Sep 25, 2018 7:24 pm 
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I am also with Mourinho on Pogba. Pogba answers directly to Mourinho while Mourinho answers to all stakeholders.

I hope he has the balls to see it through. Man United's success secret for several years spanning multiple generations of footballers under Sir Alex was 'firm grip' applied with wisdom. Pogba revealed the problem at Man United pointing fingers at Mourinho, whether he was joking or not. Sir Alex won't have that as he descended on influential players who opened their mouth to 'third parties'. It appears Sir Alex don't have problems with you berating your team-mates directly the way the likes of Roy Keane, Schmeichel, Cantona, Rio, Neville, Scholes, Vidic etc would do but say nothing directly to the outside world so he could clean up the mess. Pogba took it a step further by 'attacking' the manager's approach. While I agree with him on the culprit (for the sake of those who don't appear to see what's going on), the options are clear - Mourinho must assert his authority going forward and find a way to win Pogba to his side or alienate him and eventually let him go. The other option is for Mourinho to leave. I think he is giving the first option a shot. Let's see how the players respond in the coming weeks.

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 25, 2018 8:15 pm 
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Normally i should be with Mourinho on this topic, the bucks stops at the manager, but sorry, i will not support that football coward called Mourinho, united cannot attack because the team is not built to attack, dont know how this will end but one of the 2 will have to leave the club, sorry that world cup changed everything with Pogba whether we like to hear this or not, normally i dont like players that think they are bigger than the club but somebody needs to frigging speak out why we are underperforming, Pogba is important right now for united, we all see what united is like without Pogba playing, take him off the pitch and we become erratic, we dont have anyone gifted like him that can see that 50-60 yard pass, sorry it is what it is

Mourinho can take that captaincy from him, dont think he is bothered, he can drop him from the next few games if he wants, eventually, he will be forced out of the club, he is living on borrowed time

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Is Pogba proving Ferguson right? Afterall Fergie still started an ageing Scholes over Pogba which was what pissed him off and he left for Juve..

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 25, 2018 8:34 pm 
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Is Pogba proving Ferguson right? Afterall Fergie still started an ageing Scholes over Pogba which was what pissed him off and he left for Juve..


Of course Sir Alex was right.

Man U need to investigate why they started dealing with an agent that Sir Alex will not deal with. That agent is 'controlling' Man U now. Agent and player power.

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He can blame Pogba for his error in midfield but also Pogba laid the assist for our goal as well, so where is the balance?

That we were prepared to settle for a 1 goal lead? If it was not Pogba, someone else would have made a mistake, for the way Wolves played it was only fair they deserved a draw

How many times have united played draws because of our pathetic protect a 1 goal lead? Why dont we score 2 or 3

Last season we lost so many points due to this occurence, Mourinho is the king of the blame game, why does he never take responsibility for his bizarre unworking tactics?

From Lukaku, Pogba, Martial, Rashford, Bailly,lindelof, jones, smalling, he has always publicöy criticised these players and for what reason?

You have a formation that has not worked for 3 years, at least one can also try something different, i insist playing at home, we should never be defensive as this is a recipe for disaster

We have seen thos same scenario play out too many times, protetcting slim lead, well it will never work, most teams have wisened up these days and are not afraid to attack us at home or away

Lets see how this plays out, Pogba, please preach on!

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 25, 2018 8:43 pm 
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I am also with Mourinho on Pogba. Pogba answers directly to Mourinho while Mourinho answers to all stakeholders.

I hope he has the balls to see it through. Man United's success secret for several years spanning multiple generations of footballers under Sir Alex was 'firm grip' applied with wisdom. Pogba revealed the problem at Man United pointing fingers at Mourinho, whether he was joking or not. Sir Alex won't have that as he descended on influential players who opened their mouth to 'third parties'. It appears Sir Alex don't have problems with you berating your team-mates directly the way the likes of Roy Keane, Schmeichel, Cantona, Rio, Neville, Scholes, Vidic etc would do but say nothing directly to the outside world so he could clean up the mess. Pogba took it a step further by 'attacking' the manager's approach. While I agree with him on the culprit (for the sake of those who don't appear to see what's going on), the options are clear - Mourinho must assert his authority going forward and find a way to win Pogba to his side or alienate him and eventually let him go. The other option is for Mourinho to leave. I think he is giving the first option a shot. Let's see how the players respond in the coming weeks.


Good that we are on the same page on Mourinho, player power and poor attitude must be crushed urgently


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Player power is part of the game, something we have to live with unfortunately, like i said earlier, under the right circumstances, i should be supporting the manager against any player

Any manager that criticises his players freely in the press should receive the same criticism in the same press

Thats only fair! If Mourinho thinks he cant have Pogba in his team, he should tell Woodward to sell him, its that simple, we all know what that answer will be!

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Let me explain something else to you, has anyone bothered looking into Pogba commercial value to united? This man has nearly 30 million followers on instagram, his commercial appeal is so great, man united a club built around its renowned marketing strategy worldwide, Pogba fits into the image they want to potray, Pogba also has a 10 year , 31 million pound deal with adidas, a world cup winner , also man united most talented player hands down! Does anyone honestly think Woodward is prepared to sanction a sale? Football is big business these days, united just announced an increase in revenues for the 3rd quarter of 2018, it helps to have players like Pogba around who is huge on social media

I hope for the sake of united Mourinho and Pogba sort out their differences because if one has to leave, am sorry that person will not be Pogba!

https://www.sportsjoe.ie/football/man-u ... gba-171702

https://www.independent.co.uk/sport/foo ... 89776.html

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 25, 2018 9:29 pm 
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Let me explain something else to you, has anyone bothered looking into Pogba commercial value to united? This man has nearly 30 million followers on instagram, his commercial appeal is so great, man united a club built around its renowned marketing strategy worldwide, Pogba fits into the image they want to potray, Pogba also has a 10 year , 31 million deal with adidas, a world cup winner , also man united most talented player hands down! Does anyone honestly think Woodward is prepared to sanction a sale? Football is big business these days, united just announced an increase in revenues for the 3rd quarter of 2018, it helps to have players like Pogba around who is huge on social media

I hope for the sake of united Mourinho and Pogba sort out their differences because if one has to leave, am sorry that person will not be Pogba!

https://www.sportsjoe.ie/football/man-u ... gba-171702

Seriously?? Is Pogba anywhere near where Beckham was before he left Utd, commercial wise? Does any brand on social media compare with the Man Utd brand? Is Pogba overtly the most talented player at Man Utd? Sanchez? Martial? He could be best, not sure he's most talented. No player is ever bigger than the club. The manager does not play the game for the players. Have you seen some of the idiocy Pogba and his mates put out at times this season? Criticize Mourinho's tactics all you want, his record and trophy cabinet speaks for themselves. We have players giving the ball away, getting outworked and overworked by former division 2 players, they made Brighton look like Real Madrid, Watford like Barca and Wolves like Bayern. What do Martial, Sanchez, Rashford, Lukaku etc. need to attack? To beat players, make plays and score goals?? A blown whistle or a general's command? Check out the missed chances and braindead decisions in the final third from these guys. Is Mourinho asking them to make those too??

Pogba was playing to the gallery with his comments, they need to look at themselves and around them in the dressing room and figure out why they're being outplayed by Wolves, Brighton and Watford. Not quite top 4 quality or even top 10.

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Seriously?? Is Pogba anywhere near where Beckham was before he left Utd, commercial wise? Does any brand on social media compare with the Man Utd brand? Is Pogba overtly the most talented player at Man Utd? Sanchez? Martial? He could be best, not sure he's most talented. No player is ever bigger than the club. The manager does not play the game for the players. Have you seen some of the idiocy Pogba and his mates put out at times this season? Criticize Mourinho's tactics all you want, his record and trophy cabinet speaks for themselves. We have players giving the ball away, getting outworked and overworked by former division 2 players, they made Brighton look like Real Madrid, Watford like Barca and Wolves like Bayern. What do Martial, Sanchez, Rashford, Lukaku etc. need to attack? To beat players, make plays and score goals?? A blown whistle or a general's command? Check out the missed chances and braindead decisions in the final third from these guys. Is Mourinho asking them to make those too??

Pogba was playing to the gallery with his comments, they need to look at themselves and around them in the dressing room and figure out why they're being outplayed by Wolves, Brighton and Watford. Not quite top 4 quality or even top 10.


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When your former player is outplaying you, you know it os time to take time off the game

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When your former player is outplaying you, you know it os time to take time off the game


Exactly! Very ironic its a rookie coach, his former apprentice that sends him packing! Not reading into this result too much but like i said, if you criticise your players to the media every weekend, soon your players will do the same, something will give soon, things are not right at united

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Even Mourinho has admitted that Man Utd is such a monstrous corporate beast that its money making ability is almost immune to on pitch results and the player entrances and exits.

Man Utd also had great commercial assets named Beckham, Ronaldo, Rooney, Chicharito (huge in Mexico) etc. Sold them, and increased their profits anyway. Man Utd is a supercomputer. The players are just USB drives that get plugged in and out.

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Let me explain something else to you, has anyone bothered looking into Pogba commercial value to united? This man has nearly 30 million followers on instagram, his commercial appeal is so great, man united a club built around its renowned marketing strategy worldwide, Pogba fits into the image they want to potray, Pogba also has a 10 year , 31 million deal with adidas, a world cup winner , also man united most talented player hands down! Does anyone honestly think Woodward is prepared to sanction a sale? Football is big business these days, united just announced an increase in revenues for the 3rd quarter of 2018, it helps to have players like Pogba around who is huge on social media

I hope for the sake of united Mourinho and Pogba sort out their differences because if one has to leave, am sorry that person will not be Pogba!

https://www.sportsjoe.ie/football/man-u ... gba-171702

Seriously?? Is Pogba anywhere near where Beckham was before he left Utd, commercial wise? Does any brand on social media compare with the Man Utd brand? Is Pogba overtly the most talented player at Man Utd? Sanchez? Martial? He could be best, not sure he's most talented. No player is ever bigger than the club. The manager does not play the game for the players. Have you seen some of the idiocy Pogba and his mates put out at times this season? Criticize Mourinho's tactics all you want, his record and trophy cabinet speaks for themselves. We have players giving the ball away, getting outworked and overworked by former division 2 players, they made Brighton look like Real Madrid, Watford like Barca and Wolves like Bayern. What do Martial, Sanchez, Rashford, Lukaku etc. need to attack? To beat players, make plays and score goals?? A blown whistle or a general's command? Check out the missed chances and braindead decisions in the final third from these guys. Is Mourinho asking them to make those too??

Pogba was playing to the gallery with his comments, they need to look at themselves and around them in the dressing room and figure out why they're being outplayed by Wolves, Brighton and Watford. Not quite top 4 quality or even top 10.


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anti Jose brigade is out
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Pogba need to stfu and play. You don't throw your manager under the bus meant for the post

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marko wrote:
Let me explain something else to you, has anyone bothered looking into Pogba commercial value to united? This man has nearly 30 million followers on instagram, his commercial appeal is so great, man united a club built around its renowned marketing strategy worldwide, Pogba fits into the image they want to potray, Pogba also has a 10 year , 31 million pound deal with adidas, a world cup winner , also man united most talented player hands down! Does anyone honestly think Woodward is prepared to sanction a sale? Football is big business these days, united just announced an increase in revenues for the 3rd quarter of 2018, it helps to have players like Pogba around who is huge on social media

I hope for the sake of united Mourinho and Pogba sort out their differences because if one has to leave, am sorry that person will not be Pogba!

https://www.sportsjoe.ie/football/man-u ... gba-171702

https://www.independent.co.uk/sport/foo ... 89776.html



If Barcelona are really serious, then United should accept £100 million for Pogba and run fast, he is not irreplaceable, and has never been on form for 3 straight games in a row during his time at Old Trafford since the 89million move.
Great talent, very good on his day, but it's not working out and it's affecting the team.


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marko wrote:
Let me explain something else to you, has anyone bothered looking into Pogba commercial value to united? This man has nearly 30 million followers on instagram, his commercial appeal is so great, man united a club built around its renowned marketing strategy worldwide, Pogba fits into the image they want to potray, Pogba also has a 10 year , 31 million pound deal with adidas, a world cup winner , also man united most talented player hands down! Does anyone honestly think Woodward is prepared to sanction a sale? Football is big business these days, united just announced an increase in revenues for the 3rd quarter of 2018, it helps to have players like Pogba around who is huge on social media

I hope for the sake of united Mourinho and Pogba sort out their differences because if one has to leave, am sorry that person will not be Pogba!

https://www.sportsjoe.ie/football/man-u ... gba-171702

https://www.independent.co.uk/sport/foo ... 89776.html



If Barcelona are really serious, then United should accept £100 million for Pogba and run fast, he is not irreplaceable, and has never been on form for 3 straight games in a row during his time at Old Trafford since the 89million move.
Great talent, very good on his day, but it's not working out and it's affecting the team.


what star player will united bring in? especially to be coached by Mourinho? do you know how many high profile players dont want to play for united under Mourinho? Boateng said he cant consider united as this will be a step down from bayern munich! nuff said!

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what star player will united bring in? especially to be coached by Mourinho? do you know how many high profile players dont want to play for united under Mourinho? Boateng said he cant consider united as this will be a step down from bayern munich! nuff said!


The likes of Boateng are exactly the types of prima donnas that United should be avoiding going forward. At least he was honest enough to say so and not come pick up a fat wage for nothing whilst poisoning the dressing room with silly antics.

With proper scouting homework there are loads of good players with good work ethic who will die to come play at a club like United.
Big name prima donnas should be avoided.


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what star player will united bring in? especially to be coached by Mourinho? do you know how many high profile players dont want to play for united under Mourinho? Boateng said he cant consider united as this will be a step down from bayern munich! nuff said!


The likes of Boateng are exactly the types of prima donnas that United should be avoiding going forward. At least he was honest enough to say so and not come pick up a fat wage for nothing whilst poisoning the dressing room with silly antics.

With proper scouting homework there are loads of good players with good work ethic who will die to come play at a club like United.
Big name prima donnas should be avoided.

Dude you don't want a world cup winner one of the best defender but happy with Smalling and Jones :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf:
Coming to Manu is a step down for him nothing wrong just facts.Also Mustafi of Arsenal are the players United should be buying,Mustafi said he will turn Maldinin if he sign for Manu.You guys can come get him,he is a German international and younger than Boateng.


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When your former player is outplaying you, you know it os time to take time off the game

Na two of his former players don out coach him the last two games ooooh.
You are right he should take time off


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