Oliseh not good for SE : Westerhof'
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This is why westerhoff will always be a legend......most foreign coaches nowadays are not ready to do the dirty work westerhoff did....they here to collect check and go back to europe.....even keshi couldn't do the dirty job westerhoff did....he will be calling useless unknown players to the team.So who do you think should do the job now, a foreign coach?
Yes, absolutely yes. What Nigeria needs after Stephen Keshi is a foreign coach; a Technical Adviser who will work with a Nigerian coach. A coach from Holland or any big European country but not Germany with likes of Berti Vogts who will spend one week in Nigeria and spend the rest of the year in their native countries. When I was in Nigeria, I discovered Daniel Amokachi in Enugu when they played a league with Rangers. I walked up to their bus and told him he will be in my (Super Eagles) team, he said which team and I told him right there in the presence of other players, I’m the national team manager but he said he was just 16 years old and I said it doesn’t matter. Finidi George is a great player, I also was at the stadium when he played for his club and I called him to camp. There were many players like that I brought to Super Eagles camp. So whoever the foreign technical adviser will be, he must be ready to see many of the domestic league games and see how the players are doing and how they play. You don’t stay away from the games and players and hope to have a strong Super Eagles team, no, it can’t happen.
Re: Oliseh not good for SE : Westerhof'
No European coach know our style of Football. Westerhof - it took you almost 5 yrs to finally get the soup ingredients together before the soup started having some taste. You being a foreigner finally showed as you could not lead an African Team with incredible chemistry and talent in 1994 W-Cup to bulldoze the rest of the world because of your biased thinking that an African team do not deserve such glory. It showed the way you handled that team in 1994.
It will take a simple hard working and honest Nigerian to get us the World Cup not any foreign person. Anybody can take that to the bank. Yes I said it.
It will take a simple hard working and honest Nigerian to get us the World Cup not any foreign person. Anybody can take that to the bank. Yes I said it.
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What are you on about?Agbako wrote:No European coach know our style of Football. Westerhof - it took you almost 5 yrs to finally get the soup ingredients together before the soup started having some taste. You being a foreigner finally showed as you could not lead an African Team with incredible chemistry and talent in 1994 W-Cup to bulldoze the rest of the world because of your biased thinking that an African team do not deserve such glory. It showed the way you handled that team in 1994.
It will take a simple hard working and honest Nigerian to get us the World Cup not any foreign person. Anybody can take that to the bank. Yes I said it.
Not saying Oliseh will not succeed but what Westerhof said here is true. And what is wrong with taking a coach 5 years to succeed? You will need to understand the internal feud amongst the players in 1994 of which Oliseh played a forgettable key role to understand why we didn't "bulldoze the rest of the world". It had nothing to do Westerhof's so called "biased thinking". While no coach can be totally unbiased in selection no matter how professional, if Westerhof were biased to the extent you alluded, players like Amuneke, Okocha and Nwanu wouldn't have been on the team. Rufai wouldn't even have been our WC goalie.
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Re: Oliseh not good for SE : Westerhof'
Nigerians restrict themselves by being sentimental or trying to be fair or not when selecting players due to their tribe or ignoring a player due to his age and to make matters worse they rely on European clubs to indicate a players ability finding it hard to pick a gem from their own NPL and find a balance that suits what they are looking for!
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Re: Oliseh not good for SE : Westerhof'
So if I get Mr. Westerhof right only an European can scout players?Benedict Iroha wrote:This is why westerhoff will always be a legend......most foreign coaches nowadays are not ready to do the dirty work westerhoff did....they here to collect check and go back to europe.....even keshi couldn't do the dirty job westerhoff did....he will be calling useless unknown players to the team.So who do you think should do the job now, a foreign coach?
Yes, absolutely yes. What Nigeria needs after Stephen Keshi is a foreign coach; a Technical Adviser who will work with a Nigerian coach. A coach from Holland or any big European country but not Germany with likes of Berti Vogts who will spend one week in Nigeria and spend the rest of the year in their native countries. When I was in Nigeria, I discovered Daniel Amokachi in Enugu when they played a league with Rangers. I walked up to their bus and told him he will be in my (Super Eagles) team, he said which team and I told him right there in the presence of other players, I’m the national team manager but he said he was just 16 years old and I said it doesn’t matter. Finidi George is a great player, I also was at the stadium when he played for his club and I called him to camp. There were many players like that I brought to Super Eagles camp. So whoever the foreign technical adviser will be, he must be ready to see many of the domestic league games and see how the players are doing and how they play. You don’t stay away from the games and players and hope to have a strong Super Eagles team, no, it can’t happen.
And the native writes that even Keshi couldn't do the dirty work?
Are you guys ever sincere? Keshi has been fired but you should not start making stuff up about him.
The AnC we won we had the likes of Oboabona and the elephant killer Mba. Pray who put them on the team? Even the local ANC that we qualified for the first time, under whose watch.
The fact Keshi got derailed shouldn't be used to rubbish his verifiable accomplishments.
Sonny Oliseh will succeed because he will put in the work. Unlike some natives who believe that coaching is beyond their fellow Africans, Oliseh will succeed in spite of us.
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Re: Oliseh not good for SE : Westerhof'
Cellular wrote:So if I get Mr. Westerhof right only an European can scout players?Benedict Iroha wrote:This is why westerhoff will always be a legend......most foreign coaches nowadays are not ready to do the dirty work westerhoff did....they here to collect check and go back to europe.....even keshi couldn't do the dirty job westerhoff did....he will be calling useless unknown players to the team.So who do you think should do the job now, a foreign coach?
Yes, absolutely yes. What Nigeria needs after Stephen Keshi is a foreign coach; a Technical Adviser who will work with a Nigerian coach. A coach from Holland or any big European country but not Germany with likes of Berti Vogts who will spend one week in Nigeria and spend the rest of the year in their native countries. When I was in Nigeria, I discovered Daniel Amokachi in Enugu when they played a league with Rangers. I walked up to their bus and told him he will be in my (Super Eagles) team, he said which team and I told him right there in the presence of other players, I’m the national team manager but he said he was just 16 years old and I said it doesn’t matter. Finidi George is a great player, I also was at the stadium when he played for his club and I called him to camp. There were many players like that I brought to Super Eagles camp. So whoever the foreign technical adviser will be, he must be ready to see many of the domestic league games and see how the players are doing and how they play. You don’t stay away from the games and players and hope to have a strong Super Eagles team, no, it can’t happen.
And the native writes that even Keshi couldn't do the dirty work?
Are you guys ever sincere? Keshi has been fired but you should not start making stuff up about him.
The AnC we won we had the likes of Oboabona and the elephant killer Mba. Pray who put them on the team? Even the local ANC that we qualified for the first time, under whose watch.
The fact Keshi got derailed shouldn't be used to rubbish his verifiable accomplishments.
Sonny Oliseh will succeed because he will put in the work. Unlike some natives who believe that coaching is beyond their fellow Africans, Oliseh will succeed in spite of us.
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For once I agree with Westerhof. Oliseh might be a good football analyst but that does not translate to coaching and managerial success. Experience and man-management skills are very important.
Oliseh should have been given perhaps the U-20 job first so that he can produce and show a track record.
Oliseh is a very feisty and strong-willed character and his relationship with NFF and Players will be severely tested when results don't go his way.
I wish him success but I feel NFF got it wrong again. Another soap opera in the making.
Oliseh should have been given perhaps the U-20 job first so that he can produce and show a track record.
Oliseh is a very feisty and strong-willed character and his relationship with NFF and Players will be severely tested when results don't go his way.
I wish him success but I feel NFF got it wrong again. Another soap opera in the making.
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Re: Oliseh not good for SE : Westerhof'
Westerhoff should go and hug a transformer. We dont need a foreign coach!
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Re: Oliseh not good for SE : Westerhof'
What will be more than severely tested is the patience and maturity of the Nigerian football fans...nko wrote:For once I agree with Westerhof. Oliseh might be a good football analyst but that does not translate to coaching and managerial success. Experience and man-management skills are very important.
Oliseh should have been given perhaps the U-20 job first so that he can produce and show a track record.
Oliseh is a very feisty and strong-willed character and his relationship with NFF and Players will be severely tested when results don't go his way.
I wish him success but I feel NFF got it wrong again. Another soap opera in the making.
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Re: Oliseh not good for SE : Westerhof'
We now have a foreign assistant.wanaj0 wrote:Westerhoff should go and hug a transformer. We dont need a foreign coach!
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Westerfof was not good enough for the SE. He was just a crap coach that got lucky.
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The BS about Amokachi could only happen in the 90s. Football has globalised since then. Any Amo quality player would be in Europe in no time.
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The BS about Amokachi could only happen in the 90s. Football has globalised since then. Any Amo quality player would be in Europe in no time.
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Re: Oliseh not good for SE : Westerhof'
Westerhoff is just a foul joke for suggesting only FCs can scout players.Cellular wrote:So if I get Mr. Westerhof right only an European can scout players?Benedict Iroha wrote:This is why westerhoff will always be a legend......most foreign coaches nowadays are not ready to do the dirty work westerhoff did....they here to collect check and go back to europe.....even keshi couldn't do the dirty job westerhoff did....he will be calling useless unknown players to the team.So who do you think should do the job now, a foreign coach?
Yes, absolutely yes. What Nigeria needs after Stephen Keshi is a foreign coach; a Technical Adviser who will work with a Nigerian coach. A coach from Holland or any big European country but not Germany with likes of Berti Vogts who will spend one week in Nigeria and spend the rest of the year in their native countries. When I was in Nigeria, I discovered Daniel Amokachi in Enugu when they played a league with Rangers. I walked up to their bus and told him he will be in my (Super Eagles) team, he said which team and I told him right there in the presence of other players, I’m the national team manager but he said he was just 16 years old and I said it doesn’t matter. Finidi George is a great player, I also was at the stadium when he played for his club and I called him to camp. There were many players like that I brought to Super Eagles camp. So whoever the foreign technical adviser will be, he must be ready to see many of the domestic league games and see how the players are doing and how they play. You don’t stay away from the games and players and hope to have a strong Super Eagles team, no, it can’t happen.
And the native writes that even Keshi couldn't do the dirty work?
Are you guys ever sincere? Keshi has been fired but you should not start making stuff up about him.
The AnC we won we had the likes of Oboabona and the elephant killer Mba. Pray who put them on the team? Even the local ANC that we qualified for the first time, under whose watch.
The fact Keshi got derailed shouldn't be used to rubbish his verifiable accomplishments.
Sonny Oliseh will succeed because he will put in the work. Unlike some natives who believe that coaching is beyond their fellow Africans, Oliseh will succeed in spite of us.
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Re: Oliseh not good for SE : Westerhof'
Agbako please remember that it was Oliseh's blunder in defending that resulted in a goal by Italy which knocked us out of the world cup.Agbako wrote:No European coach know our style of Football. Westerhof - it took you almost 5 yrs to finally get the soup ingredients together before the soup started having some taste. You being a foreigner finally showed as you could not lead an African Team with incredible chemistry and talent in 1994 W-Cup to bulldoze the rest of the world because of your biased thinking that an African team do not deserve such glory. It showed the way you handled that team in 1994.
It will take a simple hard working and honest Nigerian to get us the World Cup not any foreign person. Anybody can take that to the bank. Yes I said it.
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I see a lot of Keshi houseboys on this thread. Was this a front for a Keshi houseboys meeting? No wonder the false title is allowed to stand. Keshi house should go and apologize to the forum before hiding here to have a meeting.
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Re: Oliseh not good for SE : Westerhof'
Oliseh's blunder gave Italy a lifeline, Eguavoen's blunder sealed our fateOguleftie wrote:Agbako please remember that it was Oliseh's blunder in defending that resulted in a goal by Italy which knocked us out of the world cup.Agbako wrote:No European coach know our style of Football. Westerhof - it took you almost 5 yrs to finally get the soup ingredients together before the soup started having some taste. You being a foreigner finally showed as you could not lead an African Team with incredible chemistry and talent in 1994 W-Cup to bulldoze the rest of the world because of your biased thinking that an African team do not deserve such glory. It showed the way you handled that team in 1994.
It will take a simple hard working and honest Nigerian to get us the World Cup not any foreign person. Anybody can take that to the bank. Yes I said it.
For my sceptical Nigerian Friends : Pessimism is great because you are either always right or pleasantly surprised.
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What was westerhoff's plan after we went up 1-0?akamoke wrote:Oliseh's blunder gave Italy a lifeline, Eguavoen's blunder sealed our fateOguleftie wrote:Agbako please remember that it was Oliseh's blunder in defending that resulted in a goal by Italy which knocked us out of the world cup.Agbako wrote:No European coach know our style of Football. Westerhof - it took you almost 5 yrs to finally get the soup ingredients together before the soup started having some taste. You being a foreigner finally showed as you could not lead an African Team with incredible chemistry and talent in 1994 W-Cup to bulldoze the rest of the world because of your biased thinking that an African team do not deserve such glory. It showed the way you handled that team in 1994.
It will take a simple hard working and honest Nigerian to get us the World Cup not any foreign person. Anybody can take that to the bank. Yes I said it.
Samson Siasia speaking FACTs about 2008.
“I have been waiting for this job for almost three years now and that was before the 2008 Beijing Olympics. I was to be the coach of the Super Eagles after the interview conducted for the job. But that time I said no, I wasn’t ready. Now that I am ready, I am not intimidated at all. I am ready for this job,” he declared matter-of-factly" http://africanfootball.mtnfootball.com/ ... m_ID=36099
“I have been waiting for this job for almost three years now and that was before the 2008 Beijing Olympics. I was to be the coach of the Super Eagles after the interview conducted for the job. But that time I said no, I wasn’t ready. Now that I am ready, I am not intimidated at all. I am ready for this job,” he declared matter-of-factly" http://africanfootball.mtnfootball.com/ ... m_ID=36099
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Re: Oliseh not good for SE : Westerhof'
What is Oliseh's coaching background and experience?
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Re: Oliseh not good for SE : Westerhof'
He told Oliseh, Amunike, Amokachi and Jay Jay not to pass the ball to Yekini...GIN wrote:What was westerhoff's plan after we went up 1-0?akamoke wrote:Oliseh's blunder gave Italy a lifeline, Eguavoen's blunder sealed our fateOguleftie wrote:Agbako please remember that it was Oliseh's blunder in defending that resulted in a goal by Italy which knocked us out of the world cup.Agbako wrote:No European coach know our style of Football. Westerhof - it took you almost 5 yrs to finally get the soup ingredients together before the soup started having some taste. You being a foreigner finally showed as you could not lead an African Team with incredible chemistry and talent in 1994 W-Cup to bulldoze the rest of the world because of your biased thinking that an African team do not deserve such glory. It showed the way you handled that team in 1994.
It will take a simple hard working and honest Nigerian to get us the World Cup not any foreign person. Anybody can take that to the bank. Yes I said it.
Re: Oliseh not good for SE : Westerhof'
I humbly disagree with Oga Westerhof here.
That said, Sunday must sort out the power thing quickly. He should not align with Pinnick. Find a higher up. Play it carefully.
That said, Sunday must sort out the power thing quickly. He should not align with Pinnick. Find a higher up. Play it carefully.
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Re: Oliseh not good for SE : Westerhof'
Why do things in a rush? Why not advertise the position and go through a proper selection process?
Why select an inexperienced person to coach the SE?
Oliseh does not merit this appointment. Sia Sia could have even made more sense.
We are blessed with so much talent and we just need an experienced Manager to harness the talents.
Why do things have to be so upside down in Nigeria? I pray for the country.
Why select an inexperienced person to coach the SE?
Oliseh does not merit this appointment. Sia Sia could have even made more sense.
We are blessed with so much talent and we just need an experienced Manager to harness the talents.
Why do things have to be so upside down in Nigeria? I pray for the country.
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Was he aware of this development?Spicyee wrote: He told Oliseh, Amunike, Amokachi and Jay Jay not to pass the ball to Yekini...
Samson Siasia speaking FACTs about 2008.
“I have been waiting for this job for almost three years now and that was before the 2008 Beijing Olympics. I was to be the coach of the Super Eagles after the interview conducted for the job. But that time I said no, I wasn’t ready. Now that I am ready, I am not intimidated at all. I am ready for this job,” he declared matter-of-factly" http://africanfootball.mtnfootball.com/ ... m_ID=36099
“I have been waiting for this job for almost three years now and that was before the 2008 Beijing Olympics. I was to be the coach of the Super Eagles after the interview conducted for the job. But that time I said no, I wasn’t ready. Now that I am ready, I am not intimidated at all. I am ready for this job,” he declared matter-of-factly" http://africanfootball.mtnfootball.com/ ... m_ID=36099