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Jose Mourinho: An analogue manager in a digital world? Guillem Balague column

Guillem Balague's BBC Sport column

Guillem Balague is the host of BBC Radio 5 live's Football Daily podcast on Thursdays covering European football. Here he gives his view on Jose Mourinho's current standing in football management.

Having been told by executive vice-chairman Ed Woodward that his tenure at Manchester United was at an end, an unshaven Jose Mourinho spent around an hour and a half at the club's Carrington training base in an atmosphere described by some of those present as "awkward".

The Portuguese manager, surrounded by his assistants, decided against embarking on a painful tour of goodbyes, contenting himself with informing those who crossed his path on that final day.




The Mourinho seen coming out of Carrington was smiling, shaven, suddenly younger. Was it relief or just the wish to give the impression he was relieved?

You never fully know with Mourinho because with him you always get two people in one, the public image and the private persona - jovial and friendly or prickly and curt, but either way methodical in most of the things he does, especially when it involves an audience.





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Those who have worked with him in the past few years, not only at Carrington, admit they were not sure which Mourinho they were going to encounter from one day to another. To me, the whole thing seems mostly an act.

So what's next for him?

Speaking to coaches and players who have worked under him, as well as rival managers, sports psychologists and insiders at the clubs where he has been - who, not surprisingly, prefer not to be quoted - the most common conclusion is that football has overtaken Mourinho.

Have his methods become outdated?



Jose Mourinho and Paul Pogba

Mourinho fell out with France international Paul Pogba in his time at United

Mourinho was an early adopter of a coaching methodology born in Portugal, called 'tactical periodisation' (it's pretty complex but you can read a detailed explanation of it here.) Indeed, for many young coaches he would become its guru.

But the game evolves. In the past few years Mourinho has been trying to reproduce a way of working and thinking that many feel has already had its day. Despite the success - albeit perhaps below their elevated expectations - he enjoyed at Real Madrid, his philosophy had not fully worked there.


Real leaders need someone to tell them the truth, the things they cannot see. One truth for Mourinho is that a charismatic, tough and brilliant manager has stopped bringing joy where he works

In Spain, players including Cristiano Ronaldo had begun to challenge him. The issues persisted in his second spell at Chelsea, where it is fair to say he left few friends behind when he was sacked in 2015. In fact, those who worked with him in his first period in London reckon he was a totally different man the second time around.

Players have changed significantly since Mourinho's successes in the early 2000s. It is difficult to find a Deco, John Terry, Frank Lampard or Ricardo Carvalho these days.

The best Mourinho teams won by defending in their box. Creating a chance against them was a minor miracle, and games were often won by his players appreciating the small details - set-pieces, counter-attacks, the need for discipline. But football has moved forward technically.

The new generation of players are better adapted to dominating games, rather than the approach proposed by Mourinho that requires a love of defending, a huge and constant commitment without the ball, and high levels of physical and mental strength.

Spanish coach Juanma Lillo, who now works in Japan but is the youngest person to manage in La Liga and is admired by Pep Guardiola, has said of some of his colleagues that their real problem is that they don't have 20 years' experience but merely repeat themselves every year for 20 years.

Some managers suggest that Mourinho's insistence on focusing the efforts of his teams on annihilating the rival has made him forget about the identity of his own sides.

But they all admire one thing: he still understands the game as a complex entity. Like all coaches, he searches for order but is capable of creating uncertainty for opponents too, finding ways of playing that are difficult to defend against.

At the top of his game, he can bring changes to a match (in terms of tactics and personnel) that disrupt what opponents were working towards. But perhaps, they admit, we have seen less of that recently.

'A culture of fear and mistrust'



Jose Mourinho and Rui Faria

Mourinho and Rui Faria worked together for more than 17 years

Mourinho opted not to update his methods at Old Trafford but instead to insist on their implementation, and in the process fell out with his most loyal lieutenant, Rui Faria, who had worked alongside him at every club he managed. In the opinion of many who were there, Mourinho was not the same after his fellow Portuguese left.

He had constant emotional ups and downs - not helped perhaps by the fact he decided against putting down roots and picked instead the five-star existence that is life in a luxury hotel.

He created a culture at United based on fear, mistrust and a siege mentality of "us against the world" - except not everyone at Old Trafford always knew whether they were the "us" or the "world".

He made accusations against certain people in the club with the result that the corridors of Carrington became very tense. There was confusion and conflict, often provoked by Mourinho simply because in the past it had brought success.

But it did not do so at a club where his players - an average of 30 years younger than him - could not buy into his philosophies. Many within the club believe he deliberately forced his way out, aware that he could neither change the attitudes of his footballers nor improve his team enough to rise to the challenge of the likes of Manchester City and Liverpool.

That might be true, but what is fascinating is that one of the most successful managers of our time has found himself stuck at the end of a road, seemingly unable to reinvent himself.

And not for the first time, Mourinho was left disappointed by his bosses, who he felt had not supported or protected him, so he came out swinging.

Presidents from two of the biggest clubs in the world had told Woodward not to go for Mourinho, warning he left only trouble behind. As any trust between him and Mourinho eroded and Mourinho retreated ever further behind an impenetrable wall, Woodward probably finally realised what they had been trying to tell him.

Regulars at Carrington were told by others in clubs where Mourinho had worked that the atmosphere would improve literally the day after he left. They were right.

A regime bordering on the unstable had created a negative atmosphere that affected everyone. The body language of the players and performances on the pitch that followed his departure say it all.

Less than a month on from his sacking, Mourinho chose to appear on BeIn Sports, where he seemed to justify what had happened at United and blamed players and the club for his dismissal. "If you are manager [and] you have in your hands the possibility to choose the players you want to follow your football idea, or to follow the idea that you think is the best to win a certain competition, that is one thing. Another thing is if you are [not] able to do this."

He also said he wanted a director of football. Many sources say this was not true; in fact for two years they say he had fought to avoid having one - yet another example they say of the Portuguese writing his own narrative.

Can he reinvent himself and find success again?



Jose Mourinho

Mourinho has been left in the shade by the likes of Liverpool manager Jurgen Klopp and Manchester CIty's Pep Guardiola

It was Mourinho, no-one else, who came up with the 'Special One' tag. That is some title to live up to.

His demands for "respect" were theatrical but they come from a deep belief that he has done enough to be treated differently. For 20 years he has been considered one of the elite and rewarded handsomely for his excellence.

He appears to have arrived at the conclusion that he is, in fact, brilliant because he gets the best jobs and gets paid fortunes for running big clubs.

He has been successful in every city he has worked in and if he doesn't reach the level of success he was brought in to achieve he gets a huge payout. So for two decades he has been receiving evidence that he is brilliant at what he does.

But some suggest that it is his own self-belief that has blinded him from seeing others who have overtaken him on leadership and management during the past few years of dramatic change in football.

His inability to keep up with innovations off the pitch - football is now highly influenced by social media - has cost him dear, insiders say.

The way he dealt with star midfielder Paul Pogba - who took the battle with his manager to the digital world - showed he did not appreciate the huge power of the digital world.

He remained stuck in analogue mode, still giving huge importance to his news conferences, despite the fact that the control that managers exercise from the press room has been seriously diminished.

It feels as if Mourinho is in a time warp. One person I spoke to told me that the Rolling Stones, David Bowie, U2 et al maintained their successes because they changed. None of them ever made a glittering career just by singing one famous song.

Mourinho seems tired and distant, even a bit bored, but will surely know that he needs to have more empathy now, not less. Authority is more elusive than ever, and many feel he should engage with people in different ways to the ones he employed at United.

Managers like Graham Taylor and Sir Bobby Robson are remembered for their successes but also for the kindness with which they treated people.

That is a longer-term way of leaving a legacy. And that is something that Mourinho should consider if he is worried about what people think about him, not just now but in the future.

Could the Portuguese do the healthy exercise of looking in the mirror to rediscover who the real Jose Mourinho is? And would that help him to feel reinvigorated, with new ideas, ready to challenge the best again?

Nobody I spoke to thought it beyond the realms of possibility.

What happens when a champion like him feels at such a crossroads? The sports psychologist Michael Caulfield has encountered managers in similar situations to the 56-year-old: "It is not true that everyone with his CV and at at his age is incapable of renewing his strengths. In fact, those who are genuinely brilliant try to find the solution in themselves."

Real leaders need someone to tell them the truth, the things they cannot see. One truth for Mourinho is that a charismatic, tough and brilliant manager has stopped bringing joy where he works and his methods now look short-termist.

The hardest thing is to admit that one is not right about everything. But the exceptional intelligence of a self-made man like Mourinho can surely make him see some light.

His next role should not be one that again reinforces notions of his brilliance. The sign of a great leader is when he changes his stance.

"Showing weakness is a great strength, more than ever now," Caulfield adds. "Sometimes a leader has to come out and say: 'I got that campaign wrong, I did not understand where I was, but I have learnt from it.'"

I, for one, would not bet against Mourinho going through that transformation. But I also feel he needs it.

https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/47010477

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Where to for Mourinosaurus Rex? The list of clubs, at the upper echelon is ever shortening. Who amongst the following would be a style fit?
Bayern
Man City
Barca
Real
Juve
PSG

Inter, Atletico perhaps, but do they have the necessary £300Ms??


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Ok...I get the idea.. but he came 2nd last season...ahead of Klopp, Pochetino and Wenger..even Conte...despite not using a squad with players in their primes or playing their proper positions. Due to circumstances he kept using Ashley Young as a LB...34 year old Ashley Young...
....what the author did not address was that the challenging City required investments they did not make... I mean.how do U become champion one season and become so bad the next? A good manager doesn't go bad so quick...Chelsea did same to Conte..though one could also argue that Conte should have been more flexible with his tactics and formation once everyone figured out the 352...

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paj wrote:
Ok...I get the idea.. but he came 2nd last season...ahead of Klopp, Pochetino and Wenger..even Conte...despite not using a squad with players in their primes or playing their proper positions. Due to circumstances he kept using Ashley Young as a LB...34 year old Ashley Young...
....what the author did not address was that the challenging City required investments they did not make... I mean.how do U become champion one season and become so bad the next? A good manager doesn't go bad so quick...Chelsea did same to Conte..though one could also argue that Conte should have been more flexible with his tactics and formation once everyone figured out the 352...


Mourinho could have been flexible as well, thats what modern coaching is all about, what united are doing now could have happened under him, at least its the same players performing, when you are too rigid and players dont respond, you either resign or they will gladly force you out

cant see any top sides taking him on now, its too risky and if they have high profile players, sorry they will not agree to be coached by him, do you know how many players turned man united down? due to Mourinho

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paj wrote:
Ok...I get the idea.. but he came 2nd last season...ahead of Klopp, Pochetino and Wenger..even Conte...despite not using a squad with players in their primes or playing their proper positions. Due to circumstances he kept using Ashley Young as a LB...34 year old Ashley Young...
....what the author did not address was that the challenging City required investments they did not make... I mean.how do U become champion one season and become so bad the next? A good manager doesn't go bad so quick....


no mind marko, he has a hard on for Jose

he has left United, yet you keep posting about him. DAMN.
let.it.go.

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marko wrote:
Mourinho could have been flexible as well, thats what modern coaching is all about,


does this mean coaches like SAF were not flexible?

when did this 'modern coaching' begin? thank you

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After watching his Bein sports interview, seemed apparent to me that Mourinho was making a subtle play for Inter.

But, since he got fired by Chelsea a 2nd time, I've felt that Mourinho should go coach a national team. If he wins the world cup (and he very well can), he'll get the respect he craves.

I'd recommend fallen angel national teams like Holland and Argentina. He can drape himself in glory with those types

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deanotito wrote:
After watching his Bein sports interview, seemed apparent to me that Mourinho was making a subtle play for Inter.

But, since he got fired by Chelsea a 2nd time, I've felt that Mourinho should go coach a national team. If he wins the world cup (and he very well can), he'll get the respect he craves.

I'd recommend fallen angel national teams like Holland and Argentina. He can drape himself in glory with those types


Holland is doing very well since they got themselves a new coach.
May be Argentina but likes of Messi will learn to defend and play Rb when ask.
Jose problem is not about getting respect for trophies won,he has won all trophies apart from World cup or on national team level.
His style of play is not good,for him to get what he want he need to spend crazy money in todays footie.
@Marko but what is the point of posting this?You don't like Jose and rightly so,its because of fans like you that Manu today is enjoying good football and back in top 4 race.I was sad he was sacked because Manu about to move ahead of beloved and knock us out of FA cup at home.Jose would have park the bus


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paj wrote:
Ok...I get the idea.. but he came 2nd last season...ahead of Klopp, Pochetino and Wenger..even Conte...despite not using a squad with players in their primes or playing their proper positions. Due to circumstances he kept using Ashley Young as a LB...34 year old Ashley Young...
....what the author did not address was that the challenging City required investments they did not make... I mean.how do U become champion one season and become so bad the next? A good manager doesn't go bad so quick...Chelsea did same to Conte..though one could also argue that Conte should have been more flexible with his tactics and formation once everyone figured out the 352...

Dude stop telling lies,not that I expect you to be honest when its come to Jose.Jose was giving money to spend and he spend well.
Explain Jose poor run in Cl last season when even Spurs compete better than Manu and an injury stop Liverpool for becoming world champs


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400 million is enough, we got beaten by Seville whose squad was worth between 50-70 million, money is not the problem, nad coaching was

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marko wrote:
400 million is enough, we got beaten by Seville whose squad was worth between 50-70 million, money is not the problem, nad coaching was


Ferguson has never gotten beaten by a smaller team?

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Cristao II wrote:
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400 million is enough, we got beaten by Seville whose squad was worth between 50-70 million, money is not the problem, nad coaching was


Ferguson has never gotten beaten by a smaller team?


Of course he has, not due to lack of effort though or naive coaching!

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marko wrote:
Cristao II wrote:
marko wrote:
400 million is enough, we got beaten by Seville whose squad was worth between 50-70 million, money is not the problem, nad coaching was


Ferguson has never gotten beaten by a smaller team?


Of course he has, not due to lack of effort though or naive coaching!

naiive coaching or downed tools/poor purchases in the market? DIfference between the Sevilla matches and last Tottenham match which you won was De Gea...

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kajifu wrote:
deanotito wrote:
After watching his Bein sports interview, seemed apparent to me that Mourinho was making a subtle play for Inter.

But, since he got fired by Chelsea a 2nd time, I've felt that Mourinho should go coach a national team. If he wins the world cup (and he very well can), he'll get the respect he craves.

I'd recommend fallen angel national teams like Holland and Argentina. He can drape himself in glory with those types


Holland is doing very well since they got themselves a new coach.
May be Argentina but likes of Messi will learn to defend and play Rb when ask.
Jose problem is not about getting respect for trophies won,he has won all trophies apart from World cup or on national team level.
His style of play is not good,for him to get what he want he need to spend crazy money in todays footie.
@Marko but what is the point of posting this?You don't like Jose and rightly so,its because of fans like you that Manu today is enjoying good football and back in top 4 race.I was sad he was sacked because Manu about to move ahead of beloved and knock us out of FA cup at home.Jose would have park the bus


My sense is that, at this point, Messi will do anything to win the world cup. I would make a big play for Mourinho if I were Argentina.

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deanotito,

I doubt that Mourinho will get a call from any ball-playing South American team (Brazil, Argentina, Chile). Maybe, Uruguay but Uruguay has a topnotch manager and would not think of Mourinho at this time. I think if he is going to coach an NT it would have to be in Europe because he will feel too big to accept a contract to coach in Africa or Asia. :rotf: Just my DIG.

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kajifu wrote:
deanotito wrote:
After watching his Bein sports interview, seemed apparent to me that Mourinho was making a subtle play for Inter.

But, since he got fired by Chelsea a 2nd time, I've felt that Mourinho should go coach a national team. If he wins the world cup (and he very well can), he'll get the respect he craves.

I'd recommend fallen angel national teams like Holland and Argentina. He can drape himself in glory with those types


Holland is doing very well since they got themselves a new coach.
May be Argentina but likes of Messi will learn to defend and play Rb when ask.
Jose problem is not about getting respect for trophies won,he has won all trophies apart from World cup or on national team level.
His style of play is not good,for him to get what he want he need to spend crazy money in todays footie.
@Marko but what is the point of posting this?You don't like Jose and rightly so,its because of fans like you that Manu today is enjoying good football and back in top 4 race.I was sad he was sacked because Manu about to move ahead of beloved and knock us out of FA cup at home.Jose would have park the bus


My sense is that, at this point, Messi will do anything to win the world cup. I would make a big play for Mourinho if I were Argentina.

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deanotito,

I doubt that Mourinho will get a call from any ball-playing South American team (Brazil, Argentina, Chile). Maybe, Uruguay but Uruguay has a topnotch manager and would not think of Mourinho at this time. I think if he is going to coach an NT it would have to be in Europe because he will feel too big to accept a contract to coach in Africa or Asia. :rotf: Just my DIG.

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kajifu wrote:
deanotito wrote:
After watching his Bein sports interview, seemed apparent to me that Mourinho was making a subtle play for Inter.

But, since he got fired by Chelsea a 2nd time, I've felt that Mourinho should go coach a national team. If he wins the world cup (and he very well can), he'll get the respect he craves.

I'd recommend fallen angel national teams like Holland and Argentina. He can drape himself in glory with those types


Holland is doing very well since they got themselves a new coach.
May be Argentina but likes of Messi will learn to defend and play Rb when ask.
Jose problem is not about getting respect for trophies won,he has won all trophies apart from World cup or on national team level.
His style of play is not good,for him to get what he want he need to spend crazy money in todays footie.
@Marko but what is the point of posting this?You don't like Jose and rightly so,its because of fans like you that Manu today is enjoying good football and back in top 4 race.I was sad he was sacked because Manu about to move ahead of beloved and knock us out of FA cup at home.Jose would have park the bus


My sense is that, at this point, Messi will do anything to win the world cup. I would make a big play for Mourinho if I were Argentina.


Yeah, Africa and Asia are out of it, although I wouldn't necessarily count out Qatar offering him the annual budget of Nigeria to take their NT job. Pride stands no chance against some amounts of money :lol:

But I wouldn't count out Argentina. I'm not quite sure how stable their coaching situation is now, but if unstable, they really should consider Jose.

Jose constantly talks about needing the daily grind of club football...so I think that may prevent him from taking such jobs, though in my opinion, it'll do him a world of good

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Jose remains one of the greatest managers in the history of football, what happened to him at United is no different to what happened to Van Gaal.

Yes he made a couple of mistakes, but his achievements can never be taken away from him


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