Acid test for Pep Guardiola next season
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NOOOO , you are not wriggling out of this one.txj wrote:True there is no transfer fee involved, but you compensate for that in salaries. Salaries, as in wages, compensation.... Understand?benteke wrote:Zlatan is free free free, no signing on fee, simply free.txj wrote:Paul Pogba £89.25m
Henrikh Mkhitaryan £35.70m
Eric Bailly £32.30m
Zlatan Ibrahimovic: 12.5m (Yes, free transfer, but we know nothing is for free! How much is his annual salary? 240k/wk, which is 12.5m)
Total: 169.75
I am surprised how you are clutching straws.
Otherwise you will have to include everyone else's wage bill because they are not playing for FREE
* Plus for Pep's signings i took great care to use the lowest figures i could ever spot on the internet because i was expecting trouble on CE
That's how 'free transfers' work, bro...
12.5m pa.
Zero transfer fees for Zlatan.
Otherwise please include the annual wages of everyone else, stop ignoring my simple request
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txj wrote:Paul Pogba £89.25m
Henrikh Mkhitaryan £35.70m
Eric Bailly £32.30m
Zlatan Ibrahimovic: 12.5m (Yes, free transfer, but we know nothing is for free! How much is his annual salary? 240k/wk, which is 12.5m)
Total: 169.75
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Oops i should have checked the thread title
It's like when you mention The Swede and 'they' bring up the Euro 2016 winner
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benteke wrote: People made some laughing sounds when Real Madrid was splashing over 200 million on players in the 2009-2010 season, that was including 80million Ronaldo.
And they continued to strengthen after that window, and they soon added 2 CL trophies, now no one is laughing, instead people praise the quality of Real Madrid's team.
The same people that will blast an EPL team for trying to do the same .
man why do you even bother
just go read the CE posts when Juve paid some insane amount for the player WE refer to as TheReasonForTheSwedeNotWinningWithArgentina
Compare that to United buying Pogba.
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Mkhitaryan is 27 million pounds.txj wrote:Paul Pogba £89.25m
Henrikh Mkhitaryan £35.70m
Eric Bailly £32.30m
Zlatan Ibrahimovic: 12.5m (Yes, free transfer, but we know nothing is for free! How much is his annual salary? 240k/wk, which is 12.5m)
Total: 169.75
http://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/manchest ... verein/985
As for your attempt to calculate zlatans wages and add that as a transfer fee you out do yourself everytime. When i think you cannot be more ridiculous and just flat out silly, you just go and do it
Anyway., United is going to buy Fonte or Fabinho or both, so dont worry, you can add those fees. Lol
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Are you just meeting TXJ for The first time? The Man is fundamentally dishonestbenteke wrote:NOOOO , you are not wriggling out of this one.txj wrote:True there is no transfer fee involved, but you compensate for that in salaries. Salaries, as in wages, compensation.... Understand?benteke wrote:Zlatan is free free free, no signing on fee, simply free.txj wrote:Paul Pogba £89.25m
Henrikh Mkhitaryan £35.70m
Eric Bailly £32.30m
Zlatan Ibrahimovic: 12.5m (Yes, free transfer, but we know nothing is for free! How much is his annual salary? 240k/wk, which is 12.5m)
Total: 169.75
I am surprised how you are clutching straws.
Otherwise you will have to include everyone else's wage bill because they are not playing for FREE
* Plus for Pep's signings i took great care to use the lowest figures i could ever spot on the internet because i was expecting trouble on CE
That's how 'free transfers' work, bro...
12.5m pa.
Zero transfer fees for Zlatan.
Otherwise please include the annual wages of everyone else, stop ignoring my simple request
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Re: Acid test for Pep Guardiola next season
danfo driver wrote:Are you just meeting TXJ for The first time? The Man is fundamentally dishonestbenteke wrote:NOOOO , you are not wriggling out of this one.txj wrote:True there is no transfer fee involved, but you compensate for that in salaries. Salaries, as in wages, compensation.... Understand?benteke wrote:Zlatan is free free free, no signing on fee, simply free.txj wrote:Paul Pogba £89.25m
Henrikh Mkhitaryan £35.70m
Eric Bailly £32.30m
Zlatan Ibrahimovic: 12.5m (Yes, free transfer, but we know nothing is for free! How much is his annual salary? 240k/wk, which is 12.5m)
Total: 169.75
I am surprised how you are clutching straws.
Otherwise you will have to include everyone else's wage bill because they are not playing for FREE
* Plus for Pep's signings i took great care to use the lowest figures i could ever spot on the internet because i was expecting trouble on CE
That's how 'free transfers' work, bro...
12.5m pa.
Zero transfer fees for Zlatan.
Otherwise please include the annual wages of everyone else, stop ignoring my simple request
The lad is a legend, i didn't know that annual wages can suddenly turn into a transfer fee, according to Txj logic
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City will add Bravo, so jury's outdanfo driver wrote:Mkhitaryan is 27 million pounds.txj wrote:Paul Pogba £89.25m
Henrikh Mkhitaryan £35.70m
Eric Bailly £32.30m
Zlatan Ibrahimovic: 12.5m (Yes, free transfer, but we know nothing is for free! How much is his annual salary? 240k/wk, which is 12.5m)
Total: 169.75
http://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/manchest ... verein/985
As for your attempt to calculate zlatans wages and add that as a transfer fee you out do yourself everytime. When i think you cannot be more ridiculous and just flat out silly, you just go and do it
Anyway., United is going to buy Fonte or Fabinho or both, so dont worry, you can add those fees. Lol
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benteke wrote:NOOOO , you are not wriggling out of this one.txj wrote:True there is no transfer fee involved, but you compensate for that in salaries. Salaries, as in wages, compensation.... Understand?benteke wrote:Zlatan is free free free, no signing on fee, simply free.txj wrote:Paul Pogba £89.25m
Henrikh Mkhitaryan £35.70m
Eric Bailly £32.30m
Zlatan Ibrahimovic: 12.5m (Yes, free transfer, but we know nothing is for free! How much is his annual salary? 240k/wk, which is 12.5m)
Total: 169.75
I am surprised how you are clutching straws.
Otherwise you will have to include everyone else's wage bill because they are not playing for FREE
* Plus for Pep's signings i took great care to use the lowest figures i could ever spot on the internet because i was expecting trouble on CE
That's how 'free transfers' work, bro...
12.5m pa.
Zero transfer fees for Zlatan.
Otherwise please include the annual wages of everyone else, stop ignoring my simple request
The point that appears lost to you is that there is no such thing as a 'free' transfer...and indeed the fact that no money exchanges hands between the two clubs is often reflected in the wages'
Same for Zlatan at Uniyed; same for Matip at Liverpool.
And yes, we can include wages for everybody (or remove Zlatans' and you are still ahead of City!). That just increases the total expenditure for everybody...
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Liverpool, European Champions 2005.
We watched this very boring video, 500 times, of Sacchi doing defensive drills, using sticks and without the ball, with Maldini, Baresi and Albertini. We used to think before then that if the other players are better, you have to lose. After that we learned anything is possible – you can beat better teams by using tactics." Jurgen Klopp
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txj wrote:benteke wrote:NOOOO , you are not wriggling out of this one.txj wrote:True there is no transfer fee involved, but you compensate for that in salaries. Salaries, as in wages, compensation.... Understand?benteke wrote:Zlatan is free free free, no signing on fee, simply free.txj wrote:Paul Pogba £89.25m
Henrikh Mkhitaryan £35.70m
Eric Bailly £32.30m
Zlatan Ibrahimovic: 12.5m (Yes, free transfer, but we know nothing is for free! How much is his annual salary? 240k/wk, which is 12.5m)
Total: 169.75
I am surprised how you are clutching straws.
Otherwise you will have to include everyone else's wage bill because they are not playing for FREE
* Plus for Pep's signings i took great care to use the lowest figures i could ever spot on the internet because i was expecting trouble on CE
That's how 'free transfers' work, bro...
12.5m pa.
Zero transfer fees for Zlatan.
Otherwise please include the annual wages of everyone else, stop ignoring my simple request
The point that appears lost to you is that there is no such thing as a 'free' transfer...and indeed the fact that no money exchanges hands between the two clubs is often reflected in the wages'
Same for Zlatan at Uniyed; same for Matip at Liverpool.
And yes, we can include wages for everybody (or remove Zlatans' and you are still ahead of City!). That just increases the total expenditure for everybody...
Dude, you still at it !
When you include wages for every single transfer you are working on double the amount for those who were signed on big monies.
For Zlatan iBrahimovic, the transfer money is big fat ZERO, basically we working on half what everyone else is paying in total, according to your flawed logic.
Sheezus
Zlatan came on a free transfer, whereas everyone else was signed for big money or some big fee, you can't argue against that.
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You are a pretty slow guy!benteke wrote:txj wrote:benteke wrote:NOOOO , you are not wriggling out of this one.txj wrote:True there is no transfer fee involved, but you compensate for that in salaries. Salaries, as in wages, compensation.... Understand?benteke wrote:Zlatan is free free free, no signing on fee, simply free.txj wrote:Paul Pogba £89.25m
Henrikh Mkhitaryan £35.70m
Eric Bailly £32.30m
Zlatan Ibrahimovic: 12.5m (Yes, free transfer, but we know nothing is for free! How much is his annual salary? 240k/wk, which is 12.5m)
Total: 169.75
I am surprised how you are clutching straws.
Otherwise you will have to include everyone else's wage bill because they are not playing for FREE
* Plus for Pep's signings i took great care to use the lowest figures i could ever spot on the internet because i was expecting trouble on CE
That's how 'free transfers' work, bro...
12.5m pa.
Zero transfer fees for Zlatan.
Otherwise please include the annual wages of everyone else, stop ignoring my simple request
The point that appears lost to you is that there is no such thing as a 'free' transfer...and indeed the fact that no money exchanges hands between the two clubs is often reflected in the wages'
Same for Zlatan at Uniyed; same for Matip at Liverpool.
And yes, we can include wages for everybody (or remove Zlatans' and you are still ahead of City!). That just increases the total expenditure for everybody...
Dude, you still at it !
When you include wages for every single transfer you are working on double the amount for those who were signed on big monies.
For Zlatan iBrahimovic, the transfer money is big fat ZERO, basically we working on half what everyone else is paying in total, according to your flawed logic.
Sheezus
Zlatan came on a free transfer, whereas everyone else was signed for big money or some big fee, you can't argue against that.
In your club's accounting for 2016, there will be a line item for 12.5m for Zlatan. While it may not be under transfers, it will be accounted for...In otherwords, it is not free...
Form is temporary; Class is Permanent!
Liverpool, European Champions 2005.
We watched this very boring video, 500 times, of Sacchi doing defensive drills, using sticks and without the ball, with Maldini, Baresi and Albertini. We used to think before then that if the other players are better, you have to lose. After that we learned anything is possible – you can beat better teams by using tactics." Jurgen Klopp
Liverpool, European Champions 2005.
We watched this very boring video, 500 times, of Sacchi doing defensive drills, using sticks and without the ball, with Maldini, Baresi and Albertini. We used to think before then that if the other players are better, you have to lose. After that we learned anything is possible – you can beat better teams by using tactics." Jurgen Klopp
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I asked you 2 days ago to include wages for all those signings including Pep's new transfers, and you went silent on that.txj wrote:You are a pretty slow guy!benteke wrote:txj wrote:benteke wrote:NOOOO , you are not wriggling out of this one.txj wrote:True there is no transfer fee involved, but you compensate for that in salaries. Salaries, as in wages, compensation.... Understand?benteke wrote:Zlatan is free free free, no signing on fee, simply free.txj wrote:Paul Pogba £89.25m
Henrikh Mkhitaryan £35.70m
Eric Bailly £32.30m
Zlatan Ibrahimovic: 12.5m (Yes, free transfer, but we know nothing is for free! How much is his annual salary? 240k/wk, which is 12.5m)
Total: 169.75
I am surprised how you are clutching straws.
Otherwise you will have to include everyone else's wage bill because they are not playing for FREE
* Plus for Pep's signings i took great care to use the lowest figures i could ever spot on the internet because i was expecting trouble on CE
That's how 'free transfers' work, bro...
12.5m pa.
Zero transfer fees for Zlatan.
Otherwise please include the annual wages of everyone else, stop ignoring my simple request
The point that appears lost to you is that there is no such thing as a 'free' transfer...and indeed the fact that no money exchanges hands between the two clubs is often reflected in the wages'
Same for Zlatan at Uniyed; same for Matip at Liverpool.
And yes, we can include wages for everybody (or remove Zlatans' and you are still ahead of City!). That just increases the total expenditure for everybody...
Dude, you still at it !
When you include wages for every single transfer you are working on double the amount for those who were signed on big monies.
For Zlatan iBrahimovic, the transfer money is big fat ZERO, basically we working on half what everyone else is paying in total, according to your flawed logic.
Sheezus
Zlatan came on a free transfer, whereas everyone else was signed for big money or some big fee, you can't argue against that.
In your club's accounting for 2016, there will be a line item for 12.5m for Zlatan. While it may not be under transfers, it will be accounted for...In otherwords, it is not free...
Im sure you realised that when we do it that way, the total suddenly jumpss to around 300million for Pep.
For United you only have to include that 12.5million that is exciting you, then we are back to square one, if you know what i mean.
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benteke wrote:I asked you 2 days ago to include wages for all those signings including Pep's new transfers, and you went silent on that.
Im sure you realised that when we do it that way, the total suddenly jumpss to around 300million for Pep.
For United you only have to include that 12.5million that is exciting you, then we are back to square one, if you know what i mean.
And how much would Manscum's jump to?
Form is temporary; Class is Permanent!
Liverpool, European Champions 2005.
We watched this very boring video, 500 times, of Sacchi doing defensive drills, using sticks and without the ball, with Maldini, Baresi and Albertini. We used to think before then that if the other players are better, you have to lose. After that we learned anything is possible – you can beat better teams by using tactics." Jurgen Klopp
Liverpool, European Champions 2005.
We watched this very boring video, 500 times, of Sacchi doing defensive drills, using sticks and without the ball, with Maldini, Baresi and Albertini. We used to think before then that if the other players are better, you have to lose. After that we learned anything is possible – you can beat better teams by using tactics." Jurgen Klopp
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I was helping you to follow your logic, nobody is playing for free, so you can't ignore other signings salaries, and only make an issue about Zlatan's salary.txj wrote:benteke wrote:I asked you 2 days ago to include wages for all those signings including Pep's new transfers, and you went silent on that.
Im sure you realised that when we do it that way, the total suddenly jumpss to around 300million for Pep.
For United you only have to include that 12.5million that is exciting you, then we are back to square one, if you know what i mean.
And how much would Manscum's jump to?
How can you say Bailly cost 30 million and Zlatan cost 12.5 million ?
On the account books we put a big fat Zero for Zlatan's transfer fee, unlike others where it's 30/40 million odd.
Then obviously everyone singed by every club is paid a wage/salary
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Meanwhile we add Claudio Bravo to City's account books
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So will Barca do a double over Pep City ?
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You are being dishonest. Its not every time. For instance, many times, the player just gets a sign on fee.txj wrote:benteke wrote:NOOOO , you are not wriggling out of this one.txj wrote:True there is no transfer fee involved, but you compensate for that in salaries. Salaries, as in wages, compensation.... Understand?benteke wrote:Zlatan is free free free, no signing on fee, simply free.txj wrote:Paul Pogba £89.25m
Henrikh Mkhitaryan £35.70m
Eric Bailly £32.30m
Zlatan Ibrahimovic: 12.5m (Yes, free transfer, but we know nothing is for free! How much is his annual salary? 240k/wk, which is 12.5m)
Total: 169.75
I am surprised how you are clutching straws.
Otherwise you will have to include everyone else's wage bill because they are not playing for FREE
* Plus for Pep's signings i took great care to use the lowest figures i could ever spot on the internet because i was expecting trouble on CE
That's how 'free transfers' work, bro...
12.5m pa.
Zero transfer fees for Zlatan.
Otherwise please include the annual wages of everyone else, stop ignoring my simple request
The point that appears lost to you is that there is no such thing as a 'free' transfer...and indeed the fact that no money exchanges hands between the two clubs is often reflected in the wages'
Same for Zlatan at Uniyed; same for Matip at Liverpool.
And yes, we can include wages for everybody (or remove Zlatans' and you are still ahead of City!). That just increases the total expenditure for everybody...
More so, in this specific case, Zlatan took a pay cut to leave PSG
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Now we are getting your head in the right frame. That's progress....benteke wrote:I was helping you to follow your logic, nobody is playing for free, so you can't ignore other signings salaries, and only make an issue about Zlatan's salary.txj wrote:benteke wrote:I asked you 2 days ago to include wages for all those signings including Pep's new transfers, and you went silent on that.
Im sure you realised that when we do it that way, the total suddenly jumpss to around 300million for Pep.
For United you only have to include that 12.5million that is exciting you, then we are back to square one, if you know what i mean.
And how much would Manscum's jump to?
How can you say Bailly cost 30 million and Zlatan cost 12.5 million ?
On the account books we put a big fat Zero for Zlatan's transfer fee, unlike others where it's 30/40 million odd.
Then obviously everyone singed by every club is paid a wage/salary
And when we compute both wages and transfer fees, everybody's totals will of course go up. Including the additional 17m+ that City just logged...
And of course, it would be even more interesting to see how Zlatan's salary compares with young players like Gabriel Jesus and Sane, or Nolitos...
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We watched this very boring video, 500 times, of Sacchi doing defensive drills, using sticks and without the ball, with Maldini, Baresi and Albertini. We used to think before then that if the other players are better, you have to lose. After that we learned anything is possible – you can beat better teams by using tactics." Jurgen Klopp
Liverpool, European Champions 2005.
We watched this very boring video, 500 times, of Sacchi doing defensive drills, using sticks and without the ball, with Maldini, Baresi and Albertini. We used to think before then that if the other players are better, you have to lose. After that we learned anything is possible – you can beat better teams by using tactics." Jurgen Klopp
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My first response to you was very simple and clear, but it's taken this longtxj wrote:Now we are getting your head in the right frame. That's progress....benteke wrote:I was helping you to follow your logic, nobody is playing for free, so you can't ignore other signings salaries, and only make an issue about Zlatan's salary.txj wrote:benteke wrote:I asked you 2 days ago to include wages for all those signings including Pep's new transfers, and you went silent on that.
Im sure you realised that when we do it that way, the total suddenly jumpss to around 300million for Pep.
For United you only have to include that 12.5million that is exciting you, then we are back to square one, if you know what i mean.
And how much would Manscum's jump to?
How can you say Bailly cost 30 million and Zlatan cost 12.5 million ?
On the account books we put a big fat Zero for Zlatan's transfer fee, unlike others where it's 30/40 million odd.
Then obviously everyone singed by every club is paid a wage/salary
And when we compute both wages and transfer fees, everybody's totals will of course go up. Including the additional 17m+ that City just logged...
And of course, it would be even more interesting to see how Zlatan's salary compares with young players like Gabriel Jesus and Sane, or Nolitos...
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The addition of Claudio Bravo at £17.1million from Barcelona takes Pep's spending to a cool £168million.benteke wrote:Vincent. wrote:Which players did he buy for £150 million?benteke wrote:Pep has already spent £150 million this season transfer window, more than any other manager
John Stones ~£47million
Leroy Sane £37M
Gabriel Jesus £27M
Gundogan £20M
Nolito £13.8M
Marlos Moreno £4.7M
Oleksandr Zinchenko £1.7M
Last season City spent £152million on new players.
On paper this was already arguably the best squad in the premier league.
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There is no excuse for Pep not to win the EPL. They have spent heavy!
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Pep Guardiola, a chequebook managerbenteke wrote:The addition of Claudio Bravo at £17.1million from Barcelona takes Pep's spending to a cool £168million.benteke wrote:Vincent. wrote:Which players did he buy for £150 million?benteke wrote:Pep has already spent £150 million this season transfer window, more than any other manager
John Stones ~£47million
Leroy Sane £37M
Gabriel Jesus £27M
Gundogan £20M
Nolito £13.8M
Marlos Moreno £4.7M
Oleksandr Zinchenko £1.7M
Last season City spent £152million on new players.
On paper this was already arguably the best squad in the premier league.
Approximately 200 million euros spent in one summer
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it is so quiet
no comment from Yu-seless, ChICken or Vincent
Next year Our Pep will spend zero.
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With such a squad which has enjoyed all this investment every year, it should be very easy for Pep to apply his so called "exceptional" coaching methods.Cristao II wrote:There is no excuse for Pep not to win the EPL. They have spent heavy!
Even Manuel Pellegrini walked to the Premier League title in his first season with City.