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Rohr goofed with unnecessary Musa humiliation
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http://www.kwesesports.com/football/international/nigeria/rohr-goofed-with-musa-humiliation/


Gernot Rohr’s decision to not name Ahmed Musa as captain for Nigeria’s game against Senegal was as farcical as it was unnecessary.
There. That needed to be said.

While it is a coach’s prerogative to name who captains his team, it is also worth taking into consideration the circumstances and possible consequences.

Musa is, or was, assistant captain to John Obi Mikel and rightfully should have been named match-day captain in the absence of the former Chelsea man.

The reason is that not doing so raises more issues than it solves. To start with, when Vincent Enyeama retired prematurely from the national team in the wake of his highly-publicised spat with Sunday Oliseh, most of the senior players declined the opportunity to step into the breach. Musa was the only one who agreed to do so.

But within one match of Samson Siasia taking over as Super Eagles coach, and with the dust sufficiently cleared, Musa was deposed.

As a committed, non-confrontational person, Musa accepted the decision in the interest of team unity, and agreed to serve as vice-captain, along with Ogenyi Onazi.

With Mikel excused, Musa acted out the role of captain when the team reported for camp, until Rohr informed him that Onazi would lead the team out for the first game, and Elderson Echiejile would do the honors in the second game [which has since been called off].

Rohr’s explanation, according to a very credible team official, was that he wanted to team to be led out by a player who plays regularly.

Bollocks! Absolute bollocks!

First, if that was his sole reason, why chose to do it on a day in which he started the Leicester forward when he didn’t have to? There were alternatives. Oghenekaro Etebo could have played in midfield with Alex Iwobi starting in his usual wide left position and Moses Simon wide right.

Second, Nigeria have a long history of non-playing captains, going back to Christian Chukwu, Stephen Keshi and, more recently, Nwankwo Kanu and Joseph Yobo.

Keshi, in particular, was a non-playing captain for most of the 1994 Nations Cup and still lifted the trophy, and certainly nobody expected him to play any part of significance at the World Cup months later.

In any case, Musa is not the substitute captain, so he could have led the team out, especially sine Rohr chose to start him. This was humiliation for Musa and it need not have happened. Period.

Sources close to Musa said he considered retiring from the national team after the armband was handed over to Mikel, but was talked out of it.

With this latest humiliation, he has decided to save himself from further embarrassment by giving up the entire thing.

It is the wrongest possible way to treat a player who has always put the team first. And, for once, I am not with Rohr. Musa should have been treated better. He has earned the right to be treated better.


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PostPosted: Sun Mar 26, 2017 4:57 am 
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Enugu II wrote:
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Rohr goofed with unnecessary Musa humiliation
By Colin Udoh
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http://www.kwesesports.com/football/international/nigeria/rohr-goofed-with-musa-humiliation/


Gernot Rohr’s decision to not name Ahmed Musa as captain for Nigeria’s game against Senegal was as farcical as it was unnecessary.
There. That needed to be said.

While it is a coach’s prerogative to name who captains his team, it is also worth taking into consideration the circumstances and possible consequences.

Musa is, or was, assistant captain to John Obi Mikel and rightfully should have been named match-day captain in the absence of the former Chelsea man.

The reason is that not doing so raises more issues than it solves. To start with, when Vincent Enyeama retired prematurely from the national team in the wake of his highly-publicised spat with Sunday Oliseh, most of the senior players declined the opportunity to step into the breach. Musa was the only one who agreed to do so.

But within one match of Samson Siasia taking over as Super Eagles coach, and with the dust sufficiently cleared, Musa was deposed.

As a committed, non-confrontational person, Musa accepted the decision in the interest of team unity, and agreed to serve as vice-captain, along with Ogenyi Onazi.

With Mikel excused, Musa acted out the role of captain when the team reported for camp, until Rohr informed him that Onazi would lead the team out for the first game, and Elderson Echiejile would do the honors in the second game [which has since been called off].

Rohr’s explanation, according to a very credible team official, was that he wanted to team to be led out by a player who plays regularly.

Bollocks! Absolute bollocks!

First, if that was his sole reason, why chose to do it on a day in which he started the Leicester forward when he didn’t have to? There were alternatives. Oghenekaro Etebo could have played in midfield with Alex Iwobi starting in his usual wide left position and Moses Simon wide right.

Second, Nigeria have a long history of non-playing captains, going back to Christian Chukwu, Stephen Keshi and, more recently, Nwankwo Kanu and Joseph Yobo.

Keshi, in particular, was a non-playing captain for most of the 1994 Nations Cup and still lifted the trophy, and certainly nobody expected him to play any part of significance at the World Cup months later.

In any case, Musa is not the substitute captain, so he could have led the team out, especially sine Rohr chose to start him. This was humiliation for Musa and it need not have happened. Period.

Sources close to Musa said he considered retiring from the national team after the armband was handed over to Mikel, but was talked out of it.

With this latest humiliation, he has decided to save himself from further embarrassment by giving up the entire thing.

It is the wrongest possible way to treat a player who has always put the team first. And, for once, I am not with Rohr. Musa should have been treated better. He has earned the right to be treated better.

You are right Musa could have been allowed to lead the team out as vice captain to the absentee captain Mikel. But I blame Oliseh for the whole mess . He could not have made Musa the captain knowing full well Musa was going to be a peripheral player. There is no question about it his game was deteriorating sooner or later will become a fringe player with the team. There is no doubt about Musa's loyalty and commitment to the team but that wasn't enough to make him regular starter with the team. His weaknesses were apparent and glaring before Oliseh imposed him as the team's captain. It was surely a wrong choice by Oliseh and needs to be blamed for the fall out. Yes Rohr could have handled it circumspectly to avert disaffection within the team. .


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PostPosted: Sun Mar 26, 2017 5:41 am 
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Musa should not be co captain if Rohr feels it necessary for him to be a regular player.

Musa's days are numbered as I have always said. He is not good enough. We have too many players now, its not like it was 2 or 3 years ago.

Musa will not be missed. Currently he should not even make a 23 man squad unless there are a rash of injuries.

He is just squad depth at this point. Rohr knows this. SE is not for sentiment, it is for the BEST players Nigeria can offer.


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Enugu II wrote:

With this latest humiliation, he has decided to save himself from further embarrassment by giving up the entire thing.



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Musa should not be co captain if Rohr feels it necessary for him to be a regular player.

Musa's days are numbered as I have always said. He is not good enough. We have too many players now, its not like it was 2 or 3 years ago.

Musa will not be missed. Currently he should not even make a 23 man squad unless there are a rash of injuries.

He is just squad depth at this point. Rohr knows this. SE is not for sentiment, it is for the BEST players Nigeria can offer.

I'm not sure you have the ability to reason holistically. KoC's point is lost on you.

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vancity eagle wrote:
Musa should not be co captain if Rohr feels it necessary for him to be a regular player.

Musa's days are numbered as I have always said. He is not good enough. We have too many players now, its not like it was 2 or 3 years ago.

Musa will not be missed. Currently he should not even make a 23 man squad unless there are a rash of injuries.

He is just squad depth at this point. Rohr knows this. SE is not for sentiment, it is for the BEST players Nigeria can offer.


There is nothing you say that is uplifting. It is always pointing out something negative about a person, player, team, coaches etc. To be honest, I have no respect for anything you say.


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theYemster wrote:
vancity eagle wrote:
Musa should not be co captain if Rohr feels it necessary for him to be a regular player.

Musa's days are numbered as I have always said. He is not good enough. We have too many players now, its not like it was 2 or 3 years ago.

Musa will not be missed. Currently he should not even make a 23 man squad unless there are a rash of injuries.

He is just squad depth at this point. Rohr knows this. SE is not for sentiment, it is for the BEST players Nigeria can offer.

I'm not sure you have the ability to reason holistically. KoC's point is lost on you.



And what is KoC's point other than its not nice that the arm band was not given to Musa? Musa does not command respect in the team so I'm not sure what the big deal is.

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Ahmed Musa is 9th in the all time number of caps for SE with over 61 caps, one more than the Big Boss (RIP). Three more caps and he will have more caps than Osaze and Finidi.

Ahmed Musa has a strike rate of 1 goal for every 6 games for SE whilst playing as a winger.

Ahmed Musa has the most goals (11) for SE among any of the current SE forwards.

Ahmed Musa scores important goals and has the tendency to show up in the big games or when the team can find no answers, like he did against Argentina, against Barcelona and Tottenham with Leicester.

Ahmed Musa scores 1 goal in every 3 games for all his clubs despite being played as winger in some of the matches.

Ahmed Musa has the most number of goals in Europe aside from Ideye in the current SE squad.

Ahmed Musa is the most expensive Nigerian Player in recent times with his move to Leicester.


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Enugu II wrote:
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Rohr goofed with unnecessary Musa humiliation
By Colin Udoh
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http://www.kwesesports.com/football/international/nigeria/rohr-goofed-with-musa-humiliation/


Gernot Rohr’s decision to not name Ahmed Musa as captain for Nigeria’s game against Senegal was as farcical as it was unnecessary.
There. That needed to be said.

While it is a coach’s prerogative to name who captains his team, it is also worth taking into consideration the circumstances and possible consequences.

Musa is, or was, assistant captain to John Obi Mikel and rightfully should have been named match-day captain in the absence of the former Chelsea man.

The reason is that not doing so raises more issues than it solves. To start with, when Vincent Enyeama retired prematurely from the national team in the wake of his highly-publicised spat with Sunday Oliseh, most of the senior players declined the opportunity to step into the breach. Musa was the only one who agreed to do so.

But within one match of Samson Siasia taking over as Super Eagles coach, and with the dust sufficiently cleared, Musa was deposed.

As a committed, non-confrontational person, Musa accepted the decision in the interest of team unity, and agreed to serve as vice-captain, along with Ogenyi Onazi.

With Mikel excused, Musa acted out the role of captain when the team reported for camp, until Rohr informed him that Onazi would lead the team out for the first game, and Elderson Echiejile would do the honors in the second game [which has since been called off].

Rohr’s explanation, according to a very credible team official, was that he wanted to team to be led out by a player who plays regularly.

Bollocks! Absolute bollocks!

First, if that was his sole reason, why chose to do it on a day in which he started the Leicester forward when he didn’t have to? There were alternatives. Oghenekaro Etebo could have played in midfield with Alex Iwobi starting in his usual wide left position and Moses Simon wide right.

Second, Nigeria have a long history of non-playing captains, going back to Christian Chukwu, Stephen Keshi and, more recently, Nwankwo Kanu and Joseph Yobo.

Keshi, in particular, was a non-playing captain for most of the 1994 Nations Cup and still lifted the trophy, and certainly nobody expected him to play any part of significance at the World Cup months later.

In any case, Musa is not the substitute captain, so he could have led the team out, especially sine Rohr chose to start him. This was humiliation for Musa and it need not have happened. Period.

Sources close to Musa said he considered retiring from the national team after the armband was handed over to Mikel, but was talked out of it.

With this latest humiliation, he has decided to save himself from further embarrassment by giving up the entire thing.

It is the wrongest possible way to treat a player who has always put the team first. And, for once, I am not with Rohr. Musa should have been treated better. He has earned the right to be treated better.




Knowing Oyinbo, Rohr was probably trying to motivate Musa to break into the Leicester team. In reality he needs Musa to be at his best. We have a lot of young exciting strikers but Musa is the most experienced.

I hope Musa rises to the challenge.

I say this because Mikel played as captain last year under Rohr despite being benched at Chelsea.


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Ahmed Musa is 9th in the all time number of caps for SE with over 61 caps, one more than the Big Boss (RIP). Three more caps and he will have more caps than Osaze and Finidi.

Ahmed Musa has a strike rate of 1 goal for every 6 games for SE whilst playing as a winger.

Ahmed Musa has the most goals (11) for SE among any of the current SE forwards.

Ahmed Musa scores important goals and has the tendency to show up in the big games or when the team can find no answers, like he did against Argentina, against Barcelona and Tottenham with Leicester.

Ahmed Musa scores 1 goal in every 3 games for all his clubs despite being played as winger in some of the matches.

Ahmed Musa has the most number of goals in Europe aside from Ideye in the current SE squad.

Ahmed Musa is the most expensive Nigerian Player in recent times with his move to Leicester.
In spite of all these numerous highlights of Musa he is what he is . Very hard working , dedicated , uttermost loyalty to SE but also a headless chicken , his football sense very poor and over dependent on speed.


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Much ado about nothing. Not sure why Colin is getting excited over this. Musa would be a poor choice of captain IMO. His skills lie elsewhere.

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theYemster wrote:
vancity eagle wrote:
Musa should not be co captain if Rohr feels it necessary for him to be a regular player.

Musa's days are numbered as I have always said. He is not good enough. We have too many players now, its not like it was 2 or 3 years ago.

Musa will not be missed. Currently he should not even make a 23 man squad unless there are a rash of injuries.

He is just squad depth at this point. Rohr knows this. SE is not for sentiment, it is for the BEST players Nigeria can offer.

I'm not sure you have the ability to reason holistically. KoC's point is lost on you.
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danfo driver wrote:
Enugu II wrote:

With this latest humiliation, he has decided to save himself from further embarrassment by giving up the entire thing.

:clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap:

Thus Musa has retired or what does "giving up the entire thing" mean?

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highbury wrote:
vancity eagle wrote:
Musa should not be co captain if Rohr feels it necessary for him to be a regular player.

Musa's days are numbered as I have always said. He is not good enough. We have too many players now, its not like it was 2 or 3 years ago.

Musa will not be missed. Currently he should not even make a 23 man squad unless there are a rash of injuries.

He is just squad depth at this point. Rohr knows this. SE is not for sentiment, it is for the BEST players Nigeria can offer.

There is nothing you say that is uplifting. It is always pointing out something negative about a person, player, team, coaches etc. To be honest, I have no respect for anything you say.

Chief Highbury, easy Sir! "Vancity Eagle" is entitled to his opinion.

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Knowing Oyinbo, Rohr was probably trying to motivate Musa to break into the Leicester team. In reality he needs Musa to be at his best. We have a lot of young exciting strikers but Musa is the most experienced.

I hope Musa rises to the challenge.

I say this because Mikel played as captain last year under Rohr despite being benched at Chelsea.

Very good point :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap:

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Chief Highbury, easy Sir! "Vancity Eagle" is entitled to his opinion.

Can't find where he said VE wasn't...
But Highbury is similarly entitled not to respect VE's opinion. :lol:

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Much ado about nothing. Not sure why Colin is getting excited over this. Musa would be a poor choice of captain IMO. His skills lie elsewhere.

:agree:

We Nigerians like to be stirring unnecessary ish up...
With all due respect to Musa, the armband seems too heavy for him.

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Odas wrote:
danfo driver wrote:
Enugu II wrote:

With this latest humiliation, he has decided to save himself from further embarrassment by giving up the entire thing.

:clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap:

Thus Musa has retired or what does "giving up the entire thing" mean?


Hopefully, thats what it means. And I truly hope he stubbornly refuses and stupid "begging" Nigerians usually do.


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Much ado about nothing. Not sure why Colin is getting excited over this. Musa would be a poor choice of captain IMO. His skills lie elsewhere.

Sometimes you guys have a oenchant for delibrately trying to reduce the important aspect of a message to nothing just because the person at the receiving end does not fall into certain criteria. The issue here is should Musa ,(i dont care what anyone thinks of his ability), the captain of the national, a player who makes no fuss about service, one who serves his country selflessly and dilligently, does he deserve to be humiliated.

If he raises a storm , people will call him names, je chooses to suffer in silence and his plight is picked up by another, we are being told it is much about nothing.

Sometimes cannot help bit wonder why we see things this way. A popular musician sang..Oun ti o da ko da( what is bad is bad). Is it right for him to be treated the way he was treated...that is the main issue.

The coach can always change his captain, no one was born with it, but it is never right to humiliate anyone, especially when such serves the nation dilligently as Musa.

He may not be a Finidi or Okocha, bit he has served the nation, scored crucial goals for nation. He did not make himself the captain nor did he become one through the side door, he was called to duty at a time no one was willing....thr simple matter Colins raised is...Musa does not deserve to be shabilly treated.

Now whether he deserves further invitation, whether he is headless chicken or not is immaterial.

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Much ado about nothing. Not sure why Colin is getting excited over this. Musa would be a poor choice of captain IMO. His skills lie elsewhere.

Sometimes you guys have a oenchant for delibrately trying to reduce the important aspect of a message to nothing just because the person at the receiving end does not fall into certain criteria. The issue here is should Musa ,(i dont care what anyone thinks of his ability), the captain of the national, a player who makes no fuss about service, one who serves his country selflessly and dilligently, does he deserve to be humiliated.

If he raises a storm , people will call him names, je chooses to suffer in silence and his plight is picked up by another, we are being told it is much about nothing.

Sometimes cannot help bit wonder why we see things this way. A popular musician sang..Oun ti o da ko da( what is bad is bad). Is it right for him to be treated the way he was treated...that is the main issue.

The coach can always change his captain, no one was born with it, but it is never right to humiliate anyone, especially when such serves the nation dilligently as Musa.

He may not be a Finidi or Okocha, bit he has served the nation, scored crucial goals for nation. He did not make himself the captain nor did he become one through the side door, he was called to duty at a time no one was willing....thr simple matter Colins raised is...Musa does not deserve to be shabilly treated.

Now whether he deserves further invitation, whether he is headless chicken or not is immaterial.



I agree with you that no one deserves humiliation. However, I do not think i really understand the highlighted. How should Rohr have changed his captain without humiliating Musa? This is a truly honest question. Maybe I didnt read the stuff well, but what I read said Rohr chose two captains and Musa (who is the vice captain to Mikel last year) was not one of them. How would Rohr have done it so that Musa is not humiliated?


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Much ado about nothing. Not sure why Colin is getting excited over this. Musa would be a poor choice of captain IMO. His skills lie elsewhere.

Sometimes you guys have a oenchant for delibrately trying to reduce the important aspect of a message to nothing just because the person at the receiving end does not fall into certain criteria. The issue here is should Musa ,(i dont care what anyone thinks of his ability), the captain of the national, a player who makes no fuss about service, one who serves his country selflessly and dilligently, does he deserve to be humiliated.

If he raises a storm , people will call him names, je chooses to suffer in silence and his plight is picked up by another, we are being told it is much about nothing.

Sometimes cannot help bit wonder why we see things this way. A popular musician sang..Oun ti o da ko da( what is bad is bad). Is it right for him to be treated the way he was treated...that is the main issue.

The coach can always change his captain, no one was born with it, but it is never right to humiliate anyone, especially when such serves the nation dilligently as Musa.

He may not be a Finidi or Okocha, bit he has served the nation, scored crucial goals for nation. He did not make himself the captain nor did he become one through the side door, he was called to duty at a time no one was willing....thr simple matter Colins raised is...Musa does not deserve to be shabilly treated.

Now whether he deserves further invitation, whether he is headless chicken or not is immaterial.


Many failed to see the relevant passage Colin not Colins wrote on how Musa became captain:

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To start with, when Vincent Enyeama retired prematurely from the national team in the wake of his highly-publicised spat with Sunday Oliseh, most of the senior players declined the opportunity to step into the breach. Musa was the only one who agreed to do so.

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oloye wrote:
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Much ado about nothing. Not sure why Colin is getting excited over this. Musa would be a poor choice of captain IMO. His skills lie elsewhere.

Sometimes you guys have a oenchant for delibrately trying to reduce the important aspect of a message to nothing just because the person at the receiving end does not fall into certain criteria. The issue here is should Musa ,(i dont care what anyone thinks of his ability), the captain of the national, a player who makes no fuss about service, one who serves his country selflessly and dilligently, does he deserve to be humiliated.

If he raises a storm , people will call him names, je chooses to suffer in silence and his plight is picked up by another, we are being told it is much about nothing.

Sometimes cannot help bit wonder why we see things this way. A popular musician sang..Oun ti o da ko da( what is bad is bad). Is it right for him to be treated the way he was treated...that is the main issue.

The coach can always change his captain, no one was born with it, but it is never right to humiliate anyone, especially when such serves the nation dilligently as Musa.

He may not be a Finidi or Okocha, bit he has served the nation, scored crucial goals for nation. He did not make himself the captain nor did he become one through the side door, he was called to duty at a time no one was willing....thr simple matter Colins raised is...Musa does not deserve to be shabilly treated.

Now whether he deserves further invitation, whether he is headless chicken or not is immaterial.


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1naija wrote:
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vancity eagle wrote:
Musa should not be co captain if Rohr feels it necessary for him to be a regular player.

Musa's days are numbered as I have always said. He is not good enough. We have too many players now, its not like it was 2 or 3 years ago.

Musa will not be missed. Currently he should not even make a 23 man squad unless there are a rash of injuries.

He is just squad depth at this point. Rohr knows this. SE is not for sentiment, it is for the BEST players Nigeria can offer.

I'm not sure you have the ability to reason holistically. KoC's point is lost on you.



And what is KoC's point other than its not nice that the arm band was not given to Musa? Musa does not command respect in the team so I'm not sure what the big deal is.

I actually agree that Musa shouldn't be captain (or a regular starter) however KoC's point is that it could've been done without necessarily humiliating Musa.

KoC's suggesting that for this friendly match, Musa should've been benched (which paradoxically is what VE wants) if he wasn't going to be captain since he's (according to Rohr's reason for stripping him of the captainship) not a regular anymore. According to KoC, needlessly playing Musa when there are other options, only to give the captain's band to someone else amounts to humiliation.

The fact that according to VE (Musa wouldn't be missed if he quits) is not enough reason for him to be mistreated (which is KoC's point).

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