[Man United] New Manager - Jose Mourinho.

Coach · Post by **Coach** » Mon May 23, 2016 11:18 am

^Usual dressing room leak. It never ceases to amaze how journalists champion the mole reneging on the oath to secrecy to trade his tales for Judasian gold, all the way lambasting a manager's loss of the dressing room. Is not the etiquette of that very chamber lost in the mouth of the mutineer holding their audience? How fantastically double-standard. Nevertheless, Van Gaal is gone and 2 years of Mourinho beckons, rather than the longevity of his stay, the greater conundrum would be the moniker accompanying him to the press conference. The Destined One. The Fergusonian One. The Wiser One. The Humbled One. Or perhaps, the, 2 Year Tenancy One. Having wandered around some of the game's greatest names, perhaps t'is time for the Settled One to emerge from the petulant, profligate pupae, draped in clothes of tactical change and philosophical evolution.

As for the Camerons, Fosus and Rashfords, the latter will certainly deputise, the formers may well be forgotten in a mad dash for immediate success.

tfco · Post by **tfco** » Mon May 23, 2016 11:21 am

meanwhile i've just had a big English breakfast @ LHR.

Onwards and upwards

oloye · Post by **oloye** » Mon May 23, 2016 11:42 am

cic old boy wrote:
oloye wrote:Seriously there should be boundaries within which ambition should drive a man, i dont know what is going on here, but everything sounds and looks immoral. From Jose who it appears has allowed ambition to becloud his sense of decency, to Mendes who worships money and of course the Manchester united management who are treating a seasoned coach without respect with all the murky stuff going on in the background.
My brother, morality and football in the same sentence? This is a club owned by vulture capitalists and run for them by an investment banker. Their only interest is how much they can make. Once there was no CL football and all the money involved, Van Gaal was a goner.

Borinho and them are a marriage of convenience. He will bring them attention and high maintenance drama and possibly CL qualification. They will pay him megabucks and spend top dollar on Mendes’ players (making money for Mendes and Borinho). If there is success on the pitch, everybody is happy. If there isn’t, expect the drama of Borinho’s patented scorched earth policy.

The other people happy about this are the media. My Chelski supporting boss predicted that Borinho will take Manure to mid table next season.

My brother i know, i know , that is why my first attention was on Jose. While one may not be able to control corporate lusts and greed for profit, the individuals caught within it at least should be able to exercise some sense of decency. I cannot fault Mendes, he works within the system to make money, but i can fault Jose and ManU.

I can fault Jose because at the end of the day he should be able to say sorry, i cannot cross this line. I can fault ManU because in order to swim with a pig, they jumped into murky waters to bring themselves to the level of a pig!

tfco · Post by **tfco** » Mon May 23, 2016 1:25 pm

still no word from United.

Meanwhile the media have fired LVG....hmmm

wiseone · Post by **wiseone** » Mon May 23, 2016 2:48 pm

If Man Utd appoint Mourinho, they'd have done it 3 years late. They should have appointed him when SAF retired. Had they done so, they'd probably have won 1-2 EPL titles since then and would have been in the CL every season since. Going for Moyes instead was a mistake.

One the one hand firing LVG days after he won the FA Cup and missed a CL place on goal difference may seem harsh. On the other hand getting their lowest goals total for 26 years, and leading the EPL in sideways and backwards passes, is asking for trouble.

cchinukw · Post by **cchinukw** » Mon May 23, 2016 2:48 pm

Not a Utd. fan but I go celebrate for LVG and all things decent should they retain him.

Top class coach.

I am sure he will have a few words to say about Jose and the media should his stint at Utd. come to an end.

marko · Post by **marko** » Mon May 23, 2016 2:56 pm

Decent man but he had to go! the way Leicester won the League with average players exposed all the top premiership managers, man United have not improved under his tenure, we are so predictable, average to say the least, Mourinho will have to get rid of dead Wood, the likes of Carrick, Jones, Smalling, januzaj, Valencia, Young, Mata, herrera, Rojo will have to be shown the door, good players but not man United quality we need to get back to the top, Mourinho has to be ruthless, no sentiments allowed

wiseone · Post by **wiseone** » Mon May 23, 2016 3:10 pm

It is official. LVG has been fired. Here is what Jose thinks of Man Utd:

...and the Man Utd players' reaction to LVG being sacked:

Ebyboy · Post by **Ebyboy** » Mon May 23, 2016 4:59 pm

Why are peeps so sure that Mourinho will win trophies at Man U
in short order? I think he is more likely NOT to produce immediate
results. It's not like Conte, Guardiola, Klopp and Wenger will be
twiddling their thumbs.

YemiBrazil · Post by **YemiBrazil** » Mon May 23, 2016 5:05 pm

oloye wrote:Seriously there should be boundaries within which ambition should drive a man, i dont know what is going on here, but everything sounds and looks immoral. From Jose who it appears has allowed ambition to becloud his sense of decency, to Mendes who worships money and of course the Manchester united management who are treating a seasoned coach without respect with all the murky stuff going on in the background.

The seasoned coach should have respected himself by meeting the agreed minimum target of champions league football by addressing glaring issues in the team's approach to the game for 38 weeks. He should have respected himself by not stubbornly playing Mata on the right wing, Ashley Young as center forward among other interesting decisions week in week out. United is primarily a business and Van Gaal was earning huge money to keep this business afloat. People like you have laughed at and mocked United's boring approach that was left unaddressed for months yet you blame the management for letting go of a top manager whose only emotional display during crucial moments was to sit down there and write some nonsense on his notepad. I can do that for free.

Louis van Gaal must be living in some lala land if he thinks he can get a job and also dictate his own targets. FA cup was his target as he openly declared knowing fully well that United's management were clear that their target is always the EPL and the champions league. He lost his job at West Ham. He should know it. He should enjoy his FA cup glory but just as Van Persie's, Di Maria's, Chicharito's, Evra's, Nani's etc's objectives did not align with his, it is clear his no longer align with United's. There is no room for emotions here. With his result in 2 years he would have been fired at Chelsea, Bayern, Man City, Barca, Real, Juventus - he should expect the same at United. The expectations that he called 'too high' is real. The 76,000 at Old Trafford every match day and millions across the globe expect excellence or at least a top class effort towards excellence and the transfer budget from the management attests to that.

YemiBrazil · Post by **YemiBrazil** » Mon May 23, 2016 5:06 pm

Ebyboy wrote:Why are peeps so sure that Mourinho will win trophies at Man U
in short order? I think he is more likely NOT to produce immediate
results. It's not like Conte, Guardiola, Klopp and Wenger will be
twiddling their thumbs.

Remove Wenger from your list

.

wiseone · Post by **wiseone** » Mon May 23, 2016 5:08 pm

Next to Ferguson and Guardiola, Mourinho is the closest thing to guaranteed success in the modern game. He has won the league title in four different leagues, won the title with every club he has ever managed, and won the CL with two different teams. Only 5 coaches in the history of football have ever won the CL with two different teams. That is special.

That said, Spain may have the best players and teams, but next season England will have the best managers: Conte, Mourinho, Guardiola, Klopp, Wenger, Pochettino, Benitez all managing in the same league = fireworks.

Ebyboy wrote:Why are peeps so sure that Mourinho will win trophies at Man U
in short order? I think he is more likely NOT to produce immediate
results. It's not like Conte, Guardiola, Klopp and Wenger will be
twiddling their thumbs.

danfo driver · Post by **danfo driver** » Mon May 23, 2016 5:17 pm

YemiBrazil wrote:
Ebyboy wrote:Why are peeps so sure that Mourinho will win trophies at Man U
in short order? I think he is more likely NOT to produce immediate
results. It's not like Conte, Guardiola, Klopp and Wenger will be
twiddling their thumbs.
Remove Wenger from your list .

Are people rating Conte above Wenger? The same conte that failed repeatedly in champions League and Allegri took over same Juve (lost Vidal, Pirlo, Tevez) and went to the Champions League Final.

What has conte achieved to be rated highly? Winning scudetti that Allegri also walked when he took The Job.

Has Conte done something that i don't know about?

YemiBrazil · Post by **YemiBrazil** » Mon May 23, 2016 5:29 pm

danfo driver wrote:
YemiBrazil wrote:
Ebyboy wrote:Why are peeps so sure that Mourinho will win trophies at Man U
in short order? I think he is more likely NOT to produce immediate
results. It's not like Conte, Guardiola, Klopp and Wenger will be
twiddling their thumbs.
Remove Wenger from your list .
Are people rating Conte above Wenger? The same conte that failed repeatedly in champions League and Allegri took over same Juve (lost Vidal, Pirlo, Tevez) and went to the Champions League Final.

What has conte achieved to be rated highly? Winning scudetti that Allegri also walked when he took The Job.

Has Conte done something that i don't know about?

He has won more trophies than Wenger in the last 10 years

oloye · Post by **oloye** » Mon May 23, 2016 5:34 pm

YemiBrazil wrote:
oloye wrote:Seriously there should be boundaries within which ambition should drive a man, i dont know what is going on here, but everything sounds and looks immoral. From Jose who it appears has allowed ambition to becloud his sense of decency, to Mendes who worships money and of course the Manchester united management who are treating a seasoned coach without respect with all the murky stuff going on in the background.
The seasoned coach should have respected himself by meeting the agreed minimum target of champions league football by addressing glaring issues in the team's approach to the game for 38 weeks. He should have respected himself by not stubbornly playing Mata on the right wing, Ashley Young as center forward among other interesting decisions week in week out. United is primarily a business and Van Gaal was earning huge money to keep this business afloat. People like you have laughed at and mocked United's boring approach that was left unaddressed for months yet you blame the management for letting go of a top manager whose only emotional display during crucial moments was to sit down there and write some nonsense on his notepad. I can do that for free.

Louis van Gaal must be living in some lala land if he thinks he can get a job and also dictate his own targets. FA cup was his target as he openly declared knowing fully well that United's management were clear that their target is always the EPL and the champions league. He lost his job at West Ham. He should know it. He should enjoy his FA cup glory but just as Van Persie's, Di Maria's, Chicharito's, Evra's, Nani's etc's objectives did not align with his, it is clear his no longer align with United's. There is no room for emotions here. With his result in 2 years he would have been fired at Chelsea, Bayern, Man City, Barca, Real, Juventus - he should expect the same at United. The expectations that he called 'too high' is real. The 76,000 at Old Trafford every match day and millions across the globe expect excellence or at least a top class effort towards excellence and the transfer budget from the management attests to that.

I don't have any problem with him being fired if they want to fire him, but do so with dignity. One can even say that the officials of ManU were probably praying and hoping that the team lose on Saturday, so that firing him would be a lot easier and not as murky!

danfo driver · Post by **danfo driver** » Mon May 23, 2016 5:58 pm

YemiBrazil wrote:
danfo driver wrote:
YemiBrazil wrote:
Ebyboy wrote:Why are peeps so sure that Mourinho will win trophies at Man U
in short order? I think he is more likely NOT to produce immediate
results. It's not like Conte, Guardiola, Klopp and Wenger will be
twiddling their thumbs.
Remove Wenger from your list .
Are people rating Conte above Wenger? The same conte that failed repeatedly in champions League and Allegri took over same Juve (lost Vidal, Pirlo, Tevez) and went to the Champions League Final.

What has conte achieved to be rated highly? Winning scudetti that Allegri also walked when he took The Job.

Has Conte done something that i don't know about?
He has won more trophies than Wenger in the last 10 years

Who hasnt?

danfo driver · Post by **danfo driver** » Mon May 23, 2016 6:03 pm

oloye wrote:
YemiBrazil wrote:
oloye wrote:Seriously there should be boundaries within which ambition should drive a man, i dont know what is going on here, but everything sounds and looks immoral. From Jose who it appears has allowed ambition to becloud his sense of decency, to Mendes who worships money and of course the Manchester united management who are treating a seasoned coach without respect with all the murky stuff going on in the background.
The seasoned coach should have respected himself by meeting the agreed minimum target of champions league football by addressing glaring issues in the team's approach to the game for 38 weeks. He should have respected himself by not stubbornly playing Mata on the right wing, Ashley Young as center forward among other interesting decisions week in week out. United is primarily a business and Van Gaal was earning huge money to keep this business afloat. People like you have laughed at and mocked United's boring approach that was left unaddressed for months yet you blame the management for letting go of a top manager whose only emotional display during crucial moments was to sit down there and write some nonsense on his notepad. I can do that for free.

Louis van Gaal must be living in some lala land if he thinks he can get a job and also dictate his own targets. FA cup was his target as he openly declared knowing fully well that United's management were clear that their target is always the EPL and the champions league. He lost his job at West Ham. He should know it. He should enjoy his FA cup glory but just as Van Persie's, Di Maria's, Chicharito's, Evra's, Nani's etc's objectives did not align with his, it is clear his no longer align with United's. There is no room for emotions here. With his result in 2 years he would have been fired at Chelsea, Bayern, Man City, Barca, Real, Juventus - he should expect the same at United. The expectations that he called 'too high' is real. The 76,000 at Old Trafford every match day and millions across the globe expect excellence or at least a top class effort towards excellence and the transfer budget from the management attests to that.
I don't have any problem with him being fired if they want to fire him, but do so with dignity. One can even say that the officials of ManU were probably praying and hoping that the team lose on Saturday, so that firing him would be a lot easier and not as murky!

Two things make your comment weak, Sir

1. Did you have a problem when Van Gaal was offered the job when Moyes was still manager? And were you comfortable with Van Gaal taking the job after the poor manner Moyes was treated?

2. Mourinho was offered the United job in December and accepted it. Van Gaal has known this for months. It wasnt announced because they didnt want a Man City like colapse.

YemiBrazil · Post by **YemiBrazil** » Mon May 23, 2016 6:05 pm

oloye wrote:
YemiBrazil wrote:
oloye wrote:Seriously there should be boundaries within which ambition should drive a man, i dont know what is going on here, but everything sounds and looks immoral. From Jose who it appears has allowed ambition to becloud his sense of decency, to Mendes who worships money and of course the Manchester united management who are treating a seasoned coach without respect with all the murky stuff going on in the background.
The seasoned coach should have respected himself by meeting the agreed minimum target of champions league football by addressing glaring issues in the team's approach to the game for 38 weeks. He should have respected himself by not stubbornly playing Mata on the right wing, Ashley Young as center forward among other interesting decisions week in week out. United is primarily a business and Van Gaal was earning huge money to keep this business afloat. People like you have laughed at and mocked United's boring approach that was left unaddressed for months yet you blame the management for letting go of a top manager whose only emotional display during crucial moments was to sit down there and write some nonsense on his notepad. I can do that for free.

Louis van Gaal must be living in some lala land if he thinks he can get a job and also dictate his own targets. FA cup was his target as he openly declared knowing fully well that United's management were clear that their target is always the EPL and the champions league. He lost his job at West Ham. He should know it. He should enjoy his FA cup glory but just as Van Persie's, Di Maria's, Chicharito's, Evra's, Nani's etc's objectives did not align with his, it is clear his no longer align with United's. There is no room for emotions here. With his result in 2 years he would have been fired at Chelsea, Bayern, Man City, Barca, Real, Juventus - he should expect the same at United. The expectations that he called 'too high' is real. The 76,000 at Old Trafford every match day and millions across the globe expect excellence or at least a top class effort towards excellence and the transfer budget from the management attests to that.
I don't have any problem with him being fired if they want to fire him, but do so with dignity. One can even say that the officials of ManU were probably praying and hoping that the team lose on Saturday, so that firing him would be a lot easier and not as murky!

Saturday was actually irrelevant. He did not qualify for the champions league. He played up the FA cup while hoping for the best knowing Ed Woodward is always confused. I want to pity because I had high hopes on him but he was a huge disappointment - and why pity these guys? They are well covered with bulletproof contracts and don't give a damn when they make their own decisions

Nkume · Post by **Nkume** » Mon May 23, 2016 6:08 pm

Can't wait to see another spectacular failure from Maureenho

YemiBrazil · Post by **YemiBrazil** » Mon May 23, 2016 6:15 pm

danfo driver wrote:
YemiBrazil wrote:
danfo driver wrote:
YemiBrazil wrote:
Ebyboy wrote:Why are peeps so sure that Mourinho will win trophies at Man U
in short order? I think he is more likely NOT to produce immediate
results. It's not like Conte, Guardiola, Klopp and Wenger will be
twiddling their thumbs.
Remove Wenger from your list .
Are people rating Conte above Wenger? The same conte that failed repeatedly in champions League and Allegri took over same Juve (lost Vidal, Pirlo, Tevez) and went to the Champions League Final.

What has conte achieved to be rated highly? Winning scudetti that Allegri also walked when he took The Job.

Has Conte done something that i don't know about?
He has won more trophies than Wenger in the last 10 years

Who hasnt?

Let Uncle Waffiman catch you.

danfo driver · Post by **danfo driver** » Mon May 23, 2016 6:15 pm

YemiBrazil wrote:
danfo driver wrote:
YemiBrazil wrote:
danfo driver wrote:
YemiBrazil wrote:
Ebyboy wrote:Why are peeps so sure that Mourinho will win trophies at Man U
in short order? I think he is more likely NOT to produce immediate
results. It's not like Conte, Guardiola, Klopp and Wenger will be
twiddling their thumbs.
Remove Wenger from your list .
Are people rating Conte above Wenger? The same conte that failed repeatedly in champions League and Allegri took over same Juve (lost Vidal, Pirlo, Tevez) and went to the Champions League Final.

What has conte achieved to be rated highly? Winning scudetti that Allegri also walked when he took The Job.

Has Conte done something that i don't know about?
He has won more trophies than Wenger in the last 10 years

Who hasnt?
Let Uncle Waffiman catch you.

wiseone · Post by **wiseone** » Mon May 23, 2016 6:23 pm

I think he was referring to Giggs' "extra-curricular" activities with his brother's wife...

felarey wrote:
tfco wrote: [
great player

very despicable human

i read his wife filed for D a few weeks back....finally
Haba! Aren't you a married man or atleast you'd probably been in a long term relationship even if girlfriend. This happens to the best of us.

kajifu · Post by **kajifu** » Mon May 23, 2016 6:44 pm

YemiBrazil wrote:
danfo driver wrote:
YemiBrazil wrote:
danfo driver wrote:
YemiBrazil wrote:
Ebyboy wrote:Why are peeps so sure that Mourinho will win trophies at Man U
in short order? I think he is more likely NOT to produce immediate
results. It's not like Conte, Guardiola, Klopp and Wenger will be
twiddling their thumbs.
Remove Wenger from your list .
Are people rating Conte above Wenger? The same conte that failed repeatedly in champions League and Allegri took over same Juve (lost Vidal, Pirlo, Tevez) and went to the Champions League Final.

What has conte achieved to be rated highly? Winning scudetti that Allegri also walked when he took The Job.

Has Conte done something that i don't know about?
He has won more trophies than Wenger in the last 10 years

Who hasnt?
Let Uncle Waffiman catch you.

You started the yap of our manager and now you talking about catch you.
Wenger need to go but you are just wicked to rubbish him like that.He has won 2 trophies in the last 10 years.

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