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PostPosted: Sat Oct 28, 2017 5:02 pm 
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The Ivorian Oloye :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap:

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 29, 2017 8:47 am 
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Half fit Bailly is still 90% good, with him, we know what to expect, strikers do not even attempt to dribble him as it often does not work, you cant beat him for pace or try to out muscle him, just hope him and Jones stay injury free, that partnership is deadly, they were clearly missed against huddersfield, if both of them played, united will never have lost

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 29, 2017 4:18 pm 
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Half fit Bailly is still 90% good, with him, we know what to expect, strikers do not even attempt to dribble him as it often does not work, you cant beat him for pace or try to out muscle him, just hope him and Jones stay injury free, that partnership is deadly, they were clearly missed against huddersfield, if both of them played, united will never have lost


with Rojo coming back, the


Valencia ------- Bailly -------- Jones ----------Rojo -----------Young


In Big games na helele! :clap:

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Does the SE have Gray, Mahrez or Albrighton on our team or players of their caliber?


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PostPosted: Sun Oct 29, 2017 6:45 pm 
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I dey fear playing this type of defender.

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 13, 2018 9:05 pm 
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Ivorian Oloye is on his way back:



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Does the SE have Gray, Mahrez or Albrighton on our team or players of their caliber?


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PostPosted: Mon Jan 15, 2018 5:46 pm 
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Bailly! Bailly!! Bailly!!! :thumbs: :thumbs:

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 15, 2018 5:51 pm 
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Premiership best defender

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to be honest they have missed him, I think CIV would have had a huge chance to qualify if he had played

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Of the generation of young CDs signed by big clubs this season, Umtitti and Skriniar are head and shoulders above everybody else.

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Of the generation of young CDs signed by big clubs this season, Umtitti and Skriniar are head and shoulders above everybody else.

Laporte?

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Chairman Bailly is head, shoulder and stomach above Umtiti, Skriniar, Laporte etc without any question.

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 01, 2018 9:41 pm 
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The YeyeMan wrote:
txj wrote:
Of the generation of young CDs signed by big clubs this season, Umtitti and Skriniar are head and shoulders above everybody else.

Laporte?

Too early to judge. Yerry Mina also has all the necessary physical tools to be an absolute beast alongside Umtiti.

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The YeyeMan wrote:
txj wrote:
Of the generation of young CDs signed by big clubs this season, Umtitti and Skriniar are head and shoulders above everybody else.

Laporte?


Not this season

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 01, 2018 10:14 pm 
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YemiBrazil wrote:
Chairman Bailly is head, shoulder and stomach above Umtiti, Skriniar, Laporte etc without any question.

:D :clap:

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platinum wrote:
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txj wrote:
Of the generation of young CDs signed by big clubs this season, Umtitti and Skriniar are head and shoulders above everybody else.

Laporte?

Too early to judge. Yerry Mina also has all the necessary physical tools to be an absolute beast alongside Umtiti.


Looking at performance this season, not simply talent/potential.

A very good defender can/will start for United as CD, like Bailly. You need more than that to start for Barca.

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Not cut and dry that Bailly is better than Laporte or Umtiti. It will take a while to make that determination. But as it stands, they are all very good defenders

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Not cut and dry that Bailly is better than Laporte or Umtiti. It will take a while to make that determination. But as it stands, they are all very good defenders


It is, actually, re-Umtiti.

The Barcelona philosophy places a much, much higher demand on the CD than United's.

At Barca, the CD doesn't just have to stop an attack, he has to recover the ball technically, without loss of possession, in order to function as the foundation of the attacking game and of ball possession.

Few EPL defenders have the ability to do that.

Doesn't necessarily make them bad defenders; just of a lower technical level...

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txj wrote:
YUJAM wrote:
Not cut and dry that Bailly is better than Laporte or Umtiti. It will take a while to make that determination. But as it stands, they are all very good defenders


It is, actually.

The Barcelona philosophy places a much, much higher demand on the CD than United's.

At Barca, the CD doesn't just have to stop an attack, he has to recover the ball technically, without loss of possession, in order to function as the foundation of the attacking game and of ball possession.

Few EPL defenders have the ability to do that.

Doesn't necessarily make them bad defenders; just of a lower technical level...

Arrant nonsense :lol: :lol:

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YemiBrazil wrote:
Chairman Bailly is head, shoulder and stomach above Umtiti, Skriniar, Laporte etc without any question.

It's debatable. I thought Umtiti started his Barca career slowly but he's been strong this season. Saw him in the flesh when Barca played Valencia earlier in the season and he stood out. France has a ridiculous number of quality centre-backs.

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The YeyeMan wrote:
YemiBrazil wrote:
Chairman Bailly is head, shoulder and stomach above Umtiti, Skriniar, Laporte etc without any question.

It's debatable. I thought Umtiti started his Barca career slowly but he's been strong this season. Saw him in the flesh when Barca played Valencia earlier in the season and he stood out. France has a ridiculous number of quality centre-backs.

In comparison, what was your opinion when you saw Chairman Bailly in the flesh?

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YemiBrazil wrote:
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YemiBrazil wrote:
Chairman Bailly is head, shoulder and stomach above Umtiti, Skriniar, Laporte etc without any question.

It's debatable. I thought Umtiti started his Barca career slowly but he's been strong this season. Saw him in the flesh when Barca played Valencia earlier in the season and he stood out. France has a ridiculous number of quality centre-backs.

In comparison, what was your opinion when you saw Chairman Bailly in the flesh?

I've only seen him play on TV. He's very good, no doubt at all about that.

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Didn't you watch Bailly in La Liga? He is an excellent passer up there with the likes of Stones. He is at 86 percent. Umtiti is at 92 percent but think the difference is Umtiti gets more shorter passing opps at Barca. Bailly could have thrived at Barca too

But like he I said they are all very good. Let's see how it plays out long term

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YUJAM wrote:
Not cut and dry that Bailly is better than Laporte or Umtiti. It will take a while to make that determination. But as it stands, they are all very good defenders


It is, actually, re-Umtiti.

The Barcelona philosophy places a much, much higher demand on the CD than United's.

At Barca, the CD doesn't just have to stop an attack, he has to recover the ball technically, without loss of possession, in order to function as the foundation of the attacking game and of ball possession.

Few EPL defenders have the ability to do that.

Doesn't necessarily make them bad defenders; just of a lower technical level...

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I did, in the two clubs he played for. Improved greatly at Villareal, but was never elite talent.
My views remain. He doesn't and never had the level for what is expected of a CB at Barca.


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Didn't you watch Bailly in La Liga? He is an excellent passer up there with the likes of Stones. He is at 86 percent. Umtiti is at 92 percent but think the difference is Umtiti gets more shorter passing opps at Barca. Bailly could have thrived at Barca too

But like he I said they are all very good. Let's see how it plays out long term

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YUJAM wrote:
Not cut and dry that Bailly is better than Laporte or Umtiti. It will take a while to make that determination. But as it stands, they are all very good defenders


It is, actually, re-Umtiti.

The Barcelona philosophy places a much, much higher demand on the CD than United's.

At Barca, the CD doesn't just have to stop an attack, he has to recover the ball technically, without loss of possession, in order to function as the foundation of the attacking game and of ball possession.

Few EPL defenders have the ability to do that.

Doesn't necessarily make them bad defenders; just of a lower technical level...

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