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maceo4 wrote:People have their agenda so it is what it is. .
the people who've expressed reservations about musa on this thread are Patrick, Gadfly, SirV and Damunk
which of these guys are you accusing of having an agenda
and what is their agenda
stop speaking like a coward and say whats on your mind
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smartbrother wrote:
maceo4 wrote:People have their agenda so it is what it is. .
the people who've expressed reservations about musa on this thread are Patrick, Gadfly, SirV and Damunk
which of these guys are you accusing of having an agenda
and what is their agenda
stop speaking like a coward and say whats on your mind
My only agenda is for the SE to be the best they can be.
I have been pushing for recognition of Ola Aina who has now broken into the first team at Chelsea and Nuhu Abdullahi, now injured, who was turning heads at Roma just like the injured Odubanjo at Hull.
Then there is Godswill Ekpolo, former Barcelona B, who seems to have somehow fallen off the radar.
They are all just about the same age bracket as Musa Mohammed and are all RB specialists.
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Damunk wrote:
smartbrother wrote:
maceo4 wrote:People have their agenda so it is what it is. .
the people who've expressed reservations about musa on this thread are Patrick, Gadfly, SirV and Damunk
which of these guys are you accusing of having an agenda
and what is their agenda
stop speaking like a coward and say whats on your mind
My only agenda is for the SE to be the best they can be.
I have been pushing for recognition of Ola Aina who has now broken into the first team at Chelsea and Nuhu Abdullahi, now injured, who was turning heads at Roma just like the injured Odubanjo at Hull.
Then there is Godswill Ekpolo, former Barcelona B, who seems to have somehow fallen off the radar.
They are all just about the same age bracket as Musa Mohammed and are all RB specialists.
Ok you are in London what have you done to secure the services of these boys . Or you believe your wishful thinking will make SE to be the best. Do something about it and stop wishing.
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smartbrother wrote:
maceo4 wrote:People have their agenda so it is what it is. .
the people who've expressed reservations about musa on this thread are Patrick, Gadfly, SirV and Damunk
which of these guys are you accusing of having an agenda
and what is their agenda
stop speaking like a coward and say whats on your mind
SB,

I hope you can c why folks like me stay away from posting comment on CE? Because I mentioned my reservation towards the player then it is an automatic agenda, then u wonder why why SE is in present state. A player that should be allowed to sort his club career out, no single game for his club during pre season and this is a player u guys are rooting for against Algeria & Cameroun respectively.
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patrick wrote:
smartbrother wrote:
maceo4 wrote:People have their agenda so it is what it is. .
the people who've expressed reservations about musa on this thread are Patrick, Gadfly, SirV and Damunk
which of these guys are you accusing of having an agenda
and what is their agenda
stop speaking like a coward and say whats on your mind
SB,

I hope you can c why folks like me stay away from posting comment on CE? Because I mentioned my reservation towards the player then it is an automatic agenda, then u wonder why why SE is in present state. A player that should be allowed to sort his club career out, no single game for his club during pre season and this is a player u guys are rooting for against Algeria & Cameroun respectively.
My thing is, if you say he didn't have a good game against Tanzania then there must have some bias involved, because even Rohr has said he played well. You might not think he is the answer, but you can't deny his contribution when given a chance.
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Damunk wrote:
smartbrother wrote:
maceo4 wrote:People have their agenda so it is what it is. .
the people who've expressed reservations about musa on this thread are Patrick, Gadfly, SirV and Damunk
which of these guys are you accusing of having an agenda
and what is their agenda
stop speaking like a coward and say whats on your mind
My only agenda is for the SE to be the best they can be..
i know..
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maceo4 wrote:
patrick wrote:
smartbrother wrote:
maceo4 wrote:People have their agenda so it is what it is. .
the people who've expressed reservations about musa on this thread are Patrick, Gadfly, SirV and Damunk
which of these guys are you accusing of having an agenda
and what is their agenda
stop speaking like a coward and say whats on your mind
SB,

I hope you can c why folks like me stay away from posting comment on CE? Because I mentioned my reservation towards the player then it is an automatic agenda, then u wonder why why SE is in present state. A player that should be allowed to sort his club career out, no single game for his club during pre season and this is a player u guys are rooting for against Algeria & Cameroun respectively.
My thing is, if you say he didn't have a good game against Tanzania then there must have some bias involved, because even Rohr has said he played well. You might not think he is the answer, but you can't deny his contribution when given a chance.


This is a BS, you are not making sense at all, how did u know that Rohr make that statement? You want me to believe a website that mentioned that Lorient et al are after him? Or owngoalnigeria? I know u have a poor memory, when Esiti played very well against Chad and u said, he did not impress you, how are u going to feel if someone attacks you that u have an agenda? I ve watched d game 2x, there is nothing about Musa Mohammed that inspired confidence in that match and the guy is a high-risk player for a WC qualifiers. You might as well check his club line-up for yesterday's game.
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patrick wrote:
maceo4 wrote:
patrick wrote:
smartbrother wrote:
maceo4 wrote:People have their agenda so it is what it is. .
the people who've expressed reservations about musa on this thread are Patrick, Gadfly, SirV and Damunk
which of these guys are you accusing of having an agenda
and what is their agenda
stop speaking like a coward and say whats on your mind
SB,

I hope you can c why folks like me stay away from posting comment on CE? Because I mentioned my reservation towards the player then it is an automatic agenda, then u wonder why why SE is in present state. A player that should be allowed to sort his club career out, no single game for his club during pre season and this is a player u guys are rooting for against Algeria & Cameroun respectively.
My thing is, if you say he didn't have a good game against Tanzania then there must have some bias involved, because even Rohr has said he played well. You might not think he is the answer, but you can't deny his contribution when given a chance.


This is a BS, you are not making sense at all, how did u know that Rohr make that statement? You want me to believe a website that mentioned that Lorient et al are after him? Or owngoalnigeria? I know u have a poor memory, when Esiti played very well against Chad and u said, he did not impress you, how are u going to feel if someone attacks you that u have an agenda? I ve watched d game 2x, there is nothing about Musa Mohammed that inspired confidence in that match and the guy is a high-risk player for a WC qualifiers. You might as well check his club line-up for yesterday's game.
Regarding Esiti, I was cautioning the overhype and stating my preference for a DM that plays faster rather than what I saw from Esiti where he took many touches to control before giving passed and to me seriously slowed down our game. I don't think we should be using that style of DM, not that he didn't play well.

That said how can you say you saw nothing good about Musa in that game, and you keep bringing up his club when we are talking about this particular game where he was never beaten by the Tanzanian wide players, he got forward and put in crosses, one of which Mikel flashed a header wide. He never messed up our offside traps like Shehu was constantly doing, he respected the line and pushed forward to combine with Musa and Kelechi with one touch passes and good ball control in tight spaces. But whatever if you feel he was horrible then we just have to agree to disagree.
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maceo4 wrote:
patrick wrote:
maceo4 wrote:
patrick wrote:
smartbrother wrote:
maceo4 wrote:People have their agenda so it is what it is. .
the people who've expressed reservations about musa on this thread are Patrick, Gadfly, SirV and Damunk
which of these guys are you accusing of having an agenda
and what is their agenda
stop speaking like a coward and say whats on your mind
SB,

I hope you can c why folks like me stay away from posting comment on CE? Because I mentioned my reservation towards the player then it is an automatic agenda, then u wonder why why SE is in present state. A player that should be allowed to sort his club career out, no single game for his club during pre season and this is a player u guys are rooting for against Algeria & Cameroun respectively.
My thing is, if you say he didn't have a good game against Tanzania then there must have some bias involved, because even Rohr has said he played well. You might not think he is the answer, but you can't deny his contribution when given a chance.


This is a BS, you are not making sense at all, how did u know that Rohr make that statement? You want me to believe a website that mentioned that Lorient et al are after him? Or owngoalnigeria? I know u have a poor memory, when Esiti played very well against Chad and u said, he did not impress you, how are u going to feel if someone attacks you that u have an agenda? I ve watched d game 2x, there is nothing about Musa Mohammed that inspired confidence in that match and the guy is a high-risk player for a WC qualifiers. You might as well check his club line-up for yesterday's game.
Regarding Esiti, I was cautioning the overhype and stating my preference for a DM that plays faster rather than what I saw from Esiti where he took many touches to control before giving passed and to me seriously slowed down our game. I don't think we should be using that style of DM, not that he didn't play well.

That said how can you say you saw nothing good about Musa in that game, and you keep bringing up his club when we are talking about this particular game where he was never beaten by the Tanzanian wide players, he got forward and put in crosses, one of which Mikel flashed a header wide. He never messed up our offside traps like Shehu was constantly doing, he respected the line and pushed forward to combine with Musa and Kelechi with one touch passes and good ball control in tight spaces. But whatever if you feel he was horrible then we just have to agree to disagree.
Who is hyping Esiti? Dude listens, Esiti has played in a big game of wider magnitude that I don't need Chad's game to confirm his status as a baller-- Go and ask Benfica, Porto n a Sporting Lisbon's midfielders! If your definition of a player that put in grasscutter crosses is akin to good crosses then there is no need for this conversation at all. I am telling u a full back with a poor awareness against Tanzania, always getting bullied in a one on one challenge n by extension a low pressure game then there is no need to for this conversation at all. I will pick Shehu ahead of him anyday even though he is not a RB
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patrick wrote:
maceo4 wrote:
patrick wrote:
maceo4 wrote:
patrick wrote:
smartbrother wrote:
maceo4 wrote:People have their agenda so it is what it is. .
the people who've expressed reservations about musa on this thread are Patrick, Gadfly, SirV and Damunk
which of these guys are you accusing of having an agenda
and what is their agenda
stop speaking like a coward and say whats on your mind
SB,

I hope you can c why folks like me stay away from posting comment on CE? Because I mentioned my reservation towards the player then it is an automatic agenda, then u wonder why why SE is in present state. A player that should be allowed to sort his club career out, no single game for his club during pre season and this is a player u guys are rooting for against Algeria & Cameroun respectively.
My thing is, if you say he didn't have a good game against Tanzania then there must have some bias involved, because even Rohr has said he played well. You might not think he is the answer, but you can't deny his contribution when given a chance.


This is a BS, you are not making sense at all, how did u know that Rohr make that statement? You want me to believe a website that mentioned that Lorient et al are after him? Or owngoalnigeria? I know u have a poor memory, when Esiti played very well against Chad and u said, he did not impress you, how are u going to feel if someone attacks you that u have an agenda? I ve watched d game 2x, there is nothing about Musa Mohammed that inspired confidence in that match and the guy is a high-risk player for a WC qualifiers. You might as well check his club line-up for yesterday's game.
Regarding Esiti, I was cautioning the overhype and stating my preference for a DM that plays faster rather than what I saw from Esiti where he took many touches to control before giving passed and to me seriously slowed down our game. I don't think we should be using that style of DM, not that he didn't play well.

That said how can you say you saw nothing good about Musa in that game, and you keep bringing up his club when we are talking about this particular game where he was never beaten by the Tanzanian wide players, he got forward and put in crosses, one of which Mikel flashed a header wide. He never messed up our offside traps like Shehu was constantly doing, he respected the line and pushed forward to combine with Musa and Kelechi with one touch passes and good ball control in tight spaces. But whatever if you feel he was horrible then we just have to agree to disagree.
Who is hyping Esiti? Dude listens, Esiti has played in a big game of wider magnitude that I don't need Chad's game to confirm his status as a baller-- Go and ask Benfica, Porto n a Sporting Lisbon's midfielders! If your definition of a player that put in grasscutter crosses is akin to good crosses then there is no need for this conversation at all. I am telling u a full back with a poor awareness against Tanzania, always getting bullied in a one on one challenge n by extension a low pressure game then there is no need to for this conversation at all. I will pick Shehu ahead of him anyday even though he is not a RB
If you call grasscutter crosses those that meet players heads and give them a chance to score, then hey lets pray SE puts in more "grascutters" lol. The video is here, if you could point us to where he was being bullied please...

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Patrick,

Here is a question I have for you going about some of your postings on this site:

1. Is it not possible for a player to play well for SE even though they may not make the starting team of their European club?

2. Should the fact that someone is playing well for his European club automatically mean that they will play well for SE?

I am concerned that all your barometer for measuring Nigerian players is how well they do with their European club. For me, that is a no no. I have read where you dismiss a player simply because they have or are playing in the NPFL while raving about a player signed for a European academy. There ought to be some objectivity based on the output of a player and not simply based on the fact that the player is on a European team. Scouting of players is not so scientific that only the best players are in Europe and only the poor ones are in Nigeria. I just do not agree with that simplistic analysis.
patrick wrote:
maceo4 wrote:
patrick wrote:
maceo4 wrote:
patrick wrote:
smart brother wrote:
maceo4 wrote:People have their agenda so it is what it is. .
the people who've expressed reservations about musa on this thread are Patrick, Gadfly, SirV and Damunk
which of these guys are you accusing of having an agenda
and what is their agenda
stop speaking like a coward and say whats on your mind
SB,

I hope you can c why folks like me stay away from posting comment on CE? Because I mentioned my reservation towards the player then it is an automatic agenda, then u wonder why why SE is in present state. A player that should be allowed to sort his club career out, no single game for his club during pre season and this is a player u guys are rooting for against Algeria & Cameroun respectively.
My thing is, if you say he didn't have a good game against Tanzania then there must have some bias involved, because even Rohr has said he played well. You might not think he is the answer, but you can't deny his contribution when given a chance.


This is a BS, you are not making sense at all, how did u know that Rohr make that statement? You want me to believe a website that mentioned that Lorient et al are after him? Or owngoalnigeria? I know u have a poor memory, when Esiti played very well against Chad and u said, he did not impress you, how are u going to feel if someone attacks you that u have an agenda? I ve watched d game 2x, there is nothing about Musa Mohammed that inspired confidence in that match and the guy is a high-risk player for a WC qualifiers. You might as well check his club line-up for yesterday's game.
Regarding Esiti, I was cautioning the overhype and stating my preference for a DM that plays faster rather than what I saw from Esiti where he took many touches to control before giving passed and to me seriously slowed down our game. I don't think we should be using that style of DM, not that he didn't play well.

That said how can you say you saw nothing good about Musa in that game, and you keep bringing up his club when we are talking about this particular game where he was never beaten by the Tanzanian wide players, he got forward and put in crosses, one of which Mikel flashed a header wide. He never messed up our offside traps like Shehu was constantly doing, he respected the line and pushed forward to combine with Musa and Kelechi with one touch passes and good ball control in tight spaces. But whatever if you feel he was horrible then we just have to agree to disagree.
Who is hyping Esiti? Dude listens, Esiti has played in a big game of wider magnitude that I don't need Chad's game to confirm his status as a baller-- Go and ask Benfica, Porto n a Sporting Lisbon's midfielders! If your definition of a player that put in grasscutter crosses is akin to good crosses then there is no need for this conversation at all. I am telling u a full back with a poor awareness against Tanzania, always getting bullied in a one on one challenge n by extension a low pressure game then there is no need to for this conversation at all. I will pick Shehu ahead of him anyday even though he is not a RB
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