PERMUTATIONS FOR OUR WCQ

[anointed]

With this win, we could afford 6 points against Zambia over 2 legs.

3 points against Algeria in the next game must be sacrosanct. We can't compromise that. Algeria is tough though I don't know how they will fare under their new coach but next month, those 3 points must be in the kitty.

How many points can we truly get from Cameroun? Can we get 4 points? Not impossible. I say these on the basis of the players we have, which could improve into a team.

By the time we travel to play our last game in Algeria, we should have done enough to avoid a heart-in-the-mouth kind of match.

So, I think 13 points is doable before Algeria. There could be blips but it should be with +/- 2 points. We can also assume that Algeria should match us result for result, meaning if we have 13 points going into the final game in Algeria, I won't watch a game where Algeria just needs to beat us 1-0 to qualify.

Giving up even a goal especially when avoidable or failing to get full points when within grasp is a no, no because the permutations are clear.

[ikemba]

I thought we won This permutations usually come up after we throway game

[mystic]

All I know is that we need to beat Algeria at home in our next match.

[peppersoup]

My permutations:

ALG-CMR - Draw - 1 points for each
Nigeria - ALG - 3 points for Nigeria
CMR - Zambia - Draw
CMR-NIG- Draw
Zambia-ALG-Draw

Basically get as many away points as possible. win all the home games and hoping some of the other opponents cancel out.

[Robbynice]

Honestly qualification for the WC is not that complicated. Win your home games and get results on the road. Until you lose or "gain a valuable point" at home, there is really no need for permutations...Fact not feelings

[kofi86]

Honestly qualification for the WC is not that complicated. Win your home games and get results on the road. Until you lose or "gain a valuable point" at home, there is really no need for permutations...Fact not feelings

nothing more to add.

[amafolas]

win at home, beat the little boys away, draw with big boys away. Thats it!

[Undertaker]

Just like I said before the Zambian match, 3 points is a must against Algeria! Let get that 6 points in our bag going to 2017 and see what happens!

[Undertaker]

Btw, we should always pray for a draw every time Algeria, Cameroon and Zambia plays each other!

[Tbite]

Abeg the whole point of winning is so we don't bring out calculators!

As long as we continue winning, there is no way we will fail to qualify, so abeg troway calculator.

Let us take panadol when we get headache, why should we begin consulting dokitor now?

[anointed]

Honestly qualification for the WC is not that complicated. Win your home games and get results on the road. Until you lose or "gain a valuable point" at home, there is really no need for permutations...Fact not feelings

nothing more to add.

Yeah, because our major opponents are incapable of winning at home and also get results.

[kofi86]

Honestly qualification for the WC is not that complicated. Win your home games and get results on the road. Until you lose or "gain a valuable point" at home, there is really no need for permutations...Fact not feelings

nothing more to add.

Yeah, because our major opponents are incapable of winning at home and also get results.

Well, if Nigeria wins all home games and gets results away, then it means by defiition that the opponons did not win their home games and did not get results away.
If Nigeria wins the 3 home games and draws the two left away games, Nigeria will have 14 points. The second best team could only get to 13 => No need for permutaions as Robby said.

If Nigeria fails to win home games or loses away, well that is another question. Since this was the first game for Nigeria and Algeria - Cameroon are yet to play, there are no real new permutations from this result..

[Metho scorpion]

Honestly qualification for the WC is not that complicated. Win your home games and get results on the road. Until you lose or "gain a valuable point" at home, there is really no need for permutations...Fact not feelings

...Robby well stated...my biggest concern is left back...right back is not it too...but left back...?

[anointed]

Honestly qualification for the WC is not that complicated. Win your home games and get results on the road. Until you lose or "gain a valuable point" at home, there is really no need for permutations...Fact not feelings

nothing more to add.

Yeah, because our major opponents are incapable of winning at home and also get results.

Well, if Nigeria wins all home games and gets results away, then it means by defiition that the opponons did not win their home games and did not get results away.
If Nigeria wins the 3 home games and draws the two left away games, Nigeria will have 14 points. The second best team could only get to 13 => No need for permutaions as Robby said.

If Nigeria fails to win home games or loses away, well that is another question. Since this was the first game for Nigeria and Algeria - Cameroon are yet to play, there are no real new permutations from this result..

The issue is what will be the situation of things by the time we want to play our last match away in Nigeria in Algeria. Would the Fenecs still be within a touching distance of the ticket say with a 1-0 win?

[Damunk]

Honestly qualification for the WC is not that complicated. Win your home games and get results on the road. Until you lose or "gain a valuable point" at home, there is really no need for permutations...Fact not feelings

Unfortunately winning home games is in no way assured in this group - for any of the teams.

Zambia have lost at home already and as we speak, Algeria the supposed strongest team in the group are struggling against Cameroun (1-1 at 65mins).

I don't think ANY of the four countries are going to get maximum home points.
Its the nature of this group IMHO.

[Eaglezbeak]

Btw, we should always pray for a draw every time Algeria, Cameroon and Zambia plays each other!

Pray to Win if you must because once you pray for for other results to go your way you obviously did something wrong especially if you started off well!

[cyrilndo]

With this win, we could afford 6 points against Zambia over 2 legs.

3 points against Algeria in the next game must be sacrosanct. We can't compromise that. Algeria is tough though I don't know how they will fare under their new coach but next month, those 3 points must be in the kitty.

How many points can we truly get from Cameroun? Can we get 4 points? Not impossible. I say these on the basis of the players we have, which could improve into a team.

By the time we travel to play our last game in Algeria, we should have done enough to avoid a heart-in-the-mouth kind of match.

So, I think 13 points is doable before Algeria. There could be blips but it should be with +/- 2 points. We can also assume that Algeria should match us result for result, meaning if we have 13 points going into the final game in Algeria, I won't watch a game where Algeria just needs to beat us 1-0 to qualify.

Giving up even a goal especially when avoidable or failing to get full points when within grasp is a no, no because the permutations are clear.

Waoh, just after one game. This is going to be stressful.

[Robbynice]

We won our game and top the group and we are having permutations? Again this thing no be rock science...the way I see it, if you win all your home games and get results on the road then you will qualify easily for the WC...All na if not a given but I do like our chances. Anyway maybe na me sha after all wetin small pickin like me know...

[kofi86]

Honestly qualification for the WC is not that complicated. Win your home games and get results on the road. Until you lose or "gain a valuable point" at home, there is really no need for permutations...Fact not feelings

nothing more to add.

Yeah, because our major opponents are incapable of winning at home and also get results.

Well, if Nigeria wins all home games and gets results away, then it means by defiition that the opponons did not win their home games and did not get results away.
If Nigeria wins the 3 home games and draws the two left away games, Nigeria will have 14 points. The second best team could only get to 13 => No need for permutaions as Robby said.

If Nigeria fails to win home games or loses away, well that is another question. Since this was the first game for Nigeria and Algeria - Cameroon are yet to play, there are no real new permutations from this result..

The issue is what will be the situation of things by the time we want to play our last match away in Nigeria in Algeria. Would the Fenecs still be within a touching distance of the ticket say with a 1-0 win?

And what were the permutations after Nigeria beat and Zambia and the result of Alg/Cam was still unknown?

[nemi2002]

Permutations on day one..... Chei..... This group of death go cause fight.... 3 of the 5 teams from Africa to the 2010 and 2014 WCs in the same group, 9 ANC titles between them... Game on....

[walesvilla]

if Nigeria win all the home games we will qualify - but i do not see us doing that- so we need to get a point away somewhere

[anointed]

Honestly qualification for the WC is not that complicated. Win your home games and get results on the road. Until you lose or "gain a valuable point" at home, there is really no need for permutations...Fact not feelings

nothing more to add.

Yeah, because our major opponents are incapable of winning at home and also get results.

Well, if Nigeria wins all home games and gets results away, then it means by defiition that the opponons did not win their home games and did not get results away.
If Nigeria wins the 3 home games and draws the two left away games, Nigeria will have 14 points. The second best team could only get to 13 => No need for permutaions as Robby said.

If Nigeria fails to win home games or loses away, well that is another question. Since this was the first game for Nigeria and Algeria - Cameroon are yet to play, there are no real new permutations from this result..

The issue is what will be the situation of things by the time we want to play our last match away in Nigeria in Algeria. Would the Fenecs still be within a touching distance of the ticket say with a 1-0 win?

And what were the permutations after Nigeria beat and Zambia and the result of Alg/Cam was still unknown?

It is still advantage Nigeria.

The question remains whether Algeria will be within touching distance since our last match will be there in Algeria. You are missing the salient points of my post. Note that I didn't say Cameron cos by the time the last round of matches are played cos since we'd not be playing each other then, we will not be able to do anything about each other directly.

Maybe a little bit of our WCQ history will help you. In 1994, Algeria gave us hell in Tlemcem just cos we needed a point and that was depite the fact that those yeye Algerians were out of the running. In 1998, we qualified with a game to spare. 2002 was when Amodu led the SE to pull the nut out of the fire in a WCQ that went extremely bad. I guess it was when the permutations were done after away losses at Liberia and Sierra Leone, that Jo Bonfere was done and Amodu pulled a stunning 4-0 away win in Sudan despite the fact that Sudanese were still in contention then before we wrapped it with sumptuous delivered 3-0 obliteration of Ghana.

In 2006, the only WC we've missed since 1994 was the one WC that even NFF didn't even know the rules let alone do a permutation. And so it was that by the time we were playing our last game I think against Zimbabwe, even with our win and no matter how big the win could be, Angola which ended with the same point with us and inferior GD, edged us out on HTH.

2010 was a tough neck in neck battle with Tunisia. The permutations at a time during the WCQ tilted towards the Tunisians when they forced a draw here but we regained control after getting a point in Tunis. In the last game, we need to curtail our long time wives, Kenya. They misbehaved and even tried to force a divorce but it took a brace from Obafemi Martins to discipline them and snuff out any threat of divorce. Even then the Tunisians could have nicked it had they beaten Mozambique away but they lost.

In 2014, by the time we won away in Ethiopia, it was done and dusted in a play off final round. But now that round robin final round is back, it is essential that we do cotrect permutations after every game. Remember, it was an incorrect permutation that was indirectly responsible for us missing out on the 2012 afcon.

If we can beat Algeria next month and get at least 3 points from our back to back clash with Cameron next year, while hoping Algeria will not win on the road in Cameron and Zambia, then we are home and dry.

[anointed]

Rohr wants one week camping, targets 11 points before last game against Algeria

Super Eagles’ Coach, Gernot Rohr, who led Nigeria to a 2-1 victory in their opening game of the last qualifying series of the Russia 2018 World Cup, wants to camp his team for one week before their next game against Algeria.

Nigeria will host Algeria, who played a 1-1 draw with Cameroun at the weekend, on November 7 in Uyo.

Speaking after the Eagles’ victory in Ndola, Rohr said Nigeria must be ready for a tougher challenge from Algeria than they got against Zambia, adding that camping for one week would give the team the time to blend and build on their staying power.

He, however, acknowledged that getting the players for one week before the Algeria game would depend on the attitude of the players and cooperation from their clubs.
On the game in Ndola, he said, “the condition, playing under scorching sun, had a bad effect on my players and it was particularly difficult in the second half which the Zambians won.

“We have a lot of work to do in several departments, especially defence and attack. Fortunately, we have a very experience motivator in Mikel, who worked behind the attackers.

“We are now in a positive position such that no matter what the orders do, once we get 11 points before our last match against Algeria next year, we will make it to the World Cup.”

Nigeria’s next game in the series is against Algeria in Uyo before moving to Cameroun to play against the Indomitable Lions in Yaoundé.

They will also host Zambia, Cameroun before going to Algeria for the last game of the qualifiers.

To team Captain, John Obi Mikel, this is one of the most exciting teams he will play in since he made his debit for the Super Eagles in 2006.

Mikel said the youthfulness and the willingness to learn have made it easy for the team to work seamlessly, adding, “It is always good to play in a young team because everybody wants to make name for himself.

“It was the same thing at the Olympics. When I started with the team I had players like Jay Jay Okocha and Kanu Nwankwo to look up to and now I am the elder who motivates the younger ones.

“We will continue working hard until the last game to ensure that we get the ticket to the World Cup.”

Mikel also believes that the Super Eagles are on their way to becoming a truly great team, adding, “the boys are so committed that it makes you happy.

The coaching crew is made up of very matured and brilliant people who respect the players. We are onto a good thing’ “We have a very good chance to qualify for the World Cup if we keep our heads and play at our best level. Each and every one of us is determined to go to the World Cup. Now that we are top of the table, we have to remain there,” he said.

http://guardian.ng/sport/rohr-wants-one ... t-algeria/