Bayern 5 - 1 Arsenal (FT)

[danfo driver]

Is there anybody here who thinks Wenger is in the same class as Conte, Guardiola, Klopp, Pochetino or even that chap managing Everton?
There is no reason for his contract to be renewed. It's time for Arsene to go.

This is absolutely ridiculous! What have they won? Have they even finished above Wenger in the League? Even Klopp? I think the disrespect Wenger is getting is absolutely ridiculous!

I hear you, but bia, who is signing all those average players and touting them to be all that, just because they can make top 4 in the kung-fu league?

It is wenger signing them and frankly, it is his fault. But my problem is the insult he is getting from your fans and being compared to coaches who are flavors of the month.

[danfo driver]

Mustafa is so so stupid.

But Al waffledmouth was twerking when Mustafi was bought. He claimed that Mustafi is as good as Bailly.

There is something that happens to players when they reach Arsenal..they catch the arsenalitis fever!

Oga Oloye, I hear you but I do not completely agree. You look at the players aresenal go for and many of them are at best, average.

I remember when they got Gabriel and many of them were lying that they have watched him and he is amazing. I knew Gabriel from Spain and he is an average karate player. Same thing with Mustafi. I casted doubt on him because I know him. he failed at everton, was great at sampdoria and frankly he was overrated at Valencia. I warned them and they didnt listen.


Same as Xhaka. I remember when waffi was making mouth saying Xhaka is this and that and claiming Xhaka turned down City I laughed because I know Xhaka. And like i said to waffi then, I like Xhaka a lot, but he is soooo slow and the way he plays (even though he tries to be aggressive) just didnt give me confidence that he will succeed in England.

Then you have coquelin who is a division 3 player. Was great at Charlton and they called him back.. he came back and had an amazing 5 months and all of a sudden, wenger forgot that there is a reason he loaned the boy to Charlton. Instead, he made the boy his first choice. lol

Then I remember when they bought Ozil and they were all twerking and I told them that i knew Ozil very well... very well! And there is a reason why Mourinho (who called Ozil the best number 10) refused to buy Ozil, even after Ozil begged Mourinho to take him to Chelsea! Ozil is lazy lazy and lazy! He is possibly the laziest thing you will ever come across.

Then Sanchez! Their best player. I warned them too. I know sanchez. As great as he is, Sanchez is very dumb! This guy will dribble into cul de sac and keep knocking his head on the wall. Never looks up when he plays and doesnt understand that football can be played with the brain.

All these players and more .. like El Neny and the striker they got from Deportivo are all average or above average players ith huge negatives! They didnt learn it at arsenal, they are just not good enough to play for a title winning team. Put them all together and you have a collection of losers.

disagree. double digits assist says otherwise. Does he still sometimes dribble into cul-de-sacs? yes. But he is not brainless.

Yes. You can score 400 goals and 200 assists and still be brainless. More often than not, he makes the wrong decision because he doent play with his head. SOme years ago, at Barcelona, I remember Pep angrily telling Alexis to "use your head"



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YE5IHzPGUhs

[Chief Ogbunigwe]

Is there anybody here who thinks Wenger is in the same class as Conte, Guardiola, Klopp, Pochetino or even that chap managing Everton?
There is no reason for his contract to be renewed. It's time for Arsene to go.

This is absolutely ridiculous! What have they won? Have they even finished above Wenger in the League? Even Klopp? I think the disrespect Wenger is getting is absolutely ridiculous!

I hear you, but bia, who is signing all those average players and touting them to be all that, just because they can make top 4 in the kung-fu league?

It is wenger signing them and frankly, it is his fault. But my problem is the insult he is getting from your fans and being compared to coaches who are flavors of the month.

but he is setting himself up for those insults. Who thinks Coq is a top CDM? Wenger (and Waffi). Who thinks Mustafi, Gabriel, Ramsey, Walcott, Gibbs etc are top quality players? Wenger (and Waffi). Who walks around during transfer windows claiming "quality players are not available", and then making cheap bids.

There you go.

[DAgrin]

Tfco, EPL < Bundesliga ?

[wanaj0]

No need to panic. Those of us that watch games at Emirates know that this is a blip. The travelling fans were singing the praise of Wenger all through the match.

We are not use to getting favourable calls in matches. The favourable calls destabilised us so much.

We are still on course for the TREBLE. Titles are not won in February. By May we will see. I fancy our chances now that we have the BEST squad ever.

Please note that I am travelling and there will be no internet access so you may not hear from me for a while.

I've also misplaced my 'crayon'

All those crying should go and support another club. We are Arsenal!

[amafolas]

Mustafa is so so stupid.

But Al waffledmouth was twerking when Mustafi was bought. He claimed that Mustafi is as good as Bailly.

There is something that happens to players when they reach Arsenal..they catch the arsenalitis fever!

Oga Oloye, I hear you but I do not completely agree. You look at the players aresenal go for and many of them are at best, average.

I remember when they got Gabriel and many of them were lying that they have watched him and he is amazing. I knew Gabriel from Spain and he is an average karate player. Same thing with Mustafi. I casted doubt on him because I know him. he failed at everton, was great at sampdoria and frankly he was overrated at Valencia. I warned them and they didnt listen.


Same as Xhaka. I remember when waffi was making mouth saying Xhaka is this and that and claiming Xhaka turned down City I laughed because I know Xhaka. And like i said to waffi then, I like Xhaka a lot, but he is soooo slow and the way he plays (even though he tries to be aggressive) just didnt give me confidence that he will succeed in England.

Then you have coquelin who is a division 3 player. Was great at Charlton and they called him back.. he came back and had an amazing 5 months and all of a sudden, wenger forgot that there is a reason he loaned the boy to Charlton. Instead, he made the boy his first choice. lol

Then I remember when they bought Ozil and they were all twerking and I told them that i knew Ozil very well... very well! And there is a reason why Mourinho (who called Ozil the best number 10) refused to buy Ozil, even after Ozil begged Mourinho to take him to Chelsea! Ozil is lazy lazy and lazy! He is possibly the laziest thing you will ever come across.

Then Sanchez! Their best player. I warned them too. I know sanchez. As great as he is, Sanchez is very dumb! This guy will dribble into cul de sac and keep knocking his head on the wall. Never looks up when he plays and doesnt understand that football can be played with the brain.

All these players and more .. like El Neny and the striker they got from Deportivo are all average or above average players ith huge negatives! They didnt learn it at arsenal, they are just not good enough to play for a title winning team. Put them all together and you have a collection of losers.

disagree. double digits assist says otherwise. Does he still sometimes dribble into cul-de-sacs? yes. But he is not brainless.

Yes. You can score 400 goals and 200 assists and still be brainless. More often than not, he makes the wrong decision because he doent play with his head. SOme years ago, at Barcelona, I remember Pep angrily telling Alexis to "use your head"



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YE5IHzPGUhs

rubbish, he has more awareness now than he did at Barca. Is he prone to bouts of dribbling into cul-de-sacs? He is not brainless. I doubt you have watched him often lateley

[rust09]

No need to panic. Those of us that watch games at Emirates know that this is a blip. The travelling fans were singing the praise of Wenger all through the match.

We are not use to getting favourable calls in matches. The favourable calls destabilised us so much.

We are still on course for the TREBLE. Titles are not won in February. By May we will see. I fancy our chances now that we have the BEST squad ever.

Please note that I am travelling and there will be no internet access so you may not hear from me for a while.

I've also misplaced my 'crayon'

All those crying should go and support another club. We are Arsenal!

[theYemster]

Is there anybody here who thinks Wenger is in the same class as Conte, Guardiola, Klopp, Pochetino or even that chap managing Everton?
There is no reason for his contract to be renewed. It's time for Arsene to go.

This is absolutely ridiculous! What have they won? Have they even finished above Wenger in the League? Even Klopp? I think the disrespect Wenger is getting is absolutely ridiculous!

I hear you, but bia, who is signing all those average players and touting them to be all that, just because they can make top 4 in the kung-fu league?

It is wenger signing them and frankly, it is his fault. But my problem is the insult he is getting from your fans and being compared to coaches who are flavors of the month.

but he is setting himself up for those insults. Who thinks Coq is a top CDM? Wenger (and Waffi). Who thinks Mustafi, Gabriel, Ramsey, Walcott, Gibbs etc are top quality players? Wenger (and Waffi). Who walks around during transfer windows claiming "quality players are not available", and then making cheap bids.

There you go.

Don't mind him. He's being patronizing. As if Wenger is working for free...or peanuts. Dude is very very very well compensated amongst the top earners in the world despite underachieving for the better part of a decade. He deserves every criticism and insult he gets. I don't even blame the players anymore. Wenger is the one who buys and plays them. He has cultivated a culture of accepting mediocrity. He should've walked away eons ago.

[kofi86]

Mustafa is so so stupid.

But Al waffledmouth was twerking when Mustafi was bought. He claimed that Mustafi is as good as Bailly.

There is something that happens to players when they reach Arsenal..they catch the arsenalitis fever!

Oga Oloye, I hear you but I do not completely agree. You look at the players aresenal go for and many of them are at best, average.

I remember when they got Gabriel and many of them were lying that they have watched him and he is amazing. I knew Gabriel from Spain and he is an average karate player. Same thing with Mustafi. I casted doubt on him because I know him. he failed at everton, was great at sampdoria and frankly he was overrated at Valencia. I warned them and they didnt listen.


Same as Xhaka. I remember when waffi was making mouth saying Xhaka is this and that and claiming Xhaka turned down City I laughed because I know Xhaka. And like i said to waffi then, I like Xhaka a lot, but he is soooo slow and the way he plays (even though he tries to be aggressive) just didnt give me confidence that he will succeed in England.

Then you have coquelin who is a division 3 player. Was great at Charlton and they called him back.. he came back and had an amazing 5 months and all of a sudden, wenger forgot that there is a reason he loaned the boy to Charlton. Instead, he made the boy his first choice. lol

Then I remember when they bought Ozil and they were all twerking and I told them that i knew Ozil very well... very well! And there is a reason why Mourinho (who called Ozil the best number 10) refused to buy Ozil, even after Ozil begged Mourinho to take him to Chelsea! Ozil is lazy lazy and lazy! He is possibly the laziest thing you will ever come across.

Then Sanchez! Their best player. I warned them too. I know sanchez. As great as he is, Sanchez is very dumb! This guy will dribble into cul de sac and keep knocking his head on the wall. Never looks up when he plays and doesnt understand that football can be played with the brain.

All these players and more .. like El Neny and the striker they got from Deportivo are all average or above average players ith huge negatives! They didnt learn it at arsenal, they are just not good enough to play for a title winning team. Put them all together and you have a collection of losers.

disagree. double digits assist says otherwise. Does he still sometimes dribble into cul-de-sacs? yes. But he is not brainless.

Yes. You can score 400 goals and 200 assists and still be brainless. More often than not, he makes the wrong decision because he doent play with his head. SOme years ago, at Barcelona, I remember Pep angrily telling Alexis to "use your head"



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YE5IHzPGUhs

Although I generally agree with your point regarding Alexis, this video is a bit misleading as Pep is not complaining about the way Alexis plays, but the fact that he played 90 minutes with Chile a few days earlier.

[peron33uk]

Is there anybody here who thinks Wenger is in the same class as Conte, Guardiola, Klopp, Pochetino or even that chap managing Everton?
There is no reason for his contract to be renewed. It's time for Arsene to go.

This is absolutely ridiculous! What have they won? Have they even finished above Wenger in the League? Even Klopp? I think the disrespect Wenger is getting is absolutely ridiculous!

I hear you, but bia, who is signing all those average players and touting them to be all that, just because they can make top 4 in the kung-fu league?

It is wenger signing them and frankly, it is his fault. But my problem is the insult he is getting from your fans and being compared to coaches who are flavors of the month.

but he is setting himself up for those insults. Who thinks Coq is a top CDM? Wenger (and Waffi). Who thinks Mustafi, Gabriel, Ramsey, Walcott, Gibbs etc are top quality players? Wenger (and Waffi). Who walks around during transfer windows claiming "quality players are not available", and then making cheap bids.

There you go.

Ah Chief, I am sure you were one of those hyping Le Coq when he came out shining a season or 2 ago. I have to admit, he has lost it again in recent times and Elneny is a much better player than he is.

Me sef, i don't tire. Its like it doesn't matter the players we have, the same thing still happens. Well looks like we are going round and round in circles as the saying goes, it is foolishness to do things the same way and expect a different result.

I like Arsene but e get as e be. I think maybe it is time to move on, even if initially we struggle with a new manager, we are the Arsenal, we will stabilise again and become great again.

#MAKE_ARSENAL_GREAT_AGAIN

[Chief Ogbunigwe]

Is there anybody here who thinks Wenger is in the same class as Conte, Guardiola, Klopp, Pochetino or even that chap managing Everton?
There is no reason for his contract to be renewed. It's time for Arsene to go.

This is absolutely ridiculous! What have they won? Have they even finished above Wenger in the League? Even Klopp? I think the disrespect Wenger is getting is absolutely ridiculous!

I hear you, but bia, who is signing all those average players and touting them to be all that, just because they can make top 4 in the kung-fu league?

It is wenger signing them and frankly, it is his fault. But my problem is the insult he is getting from your fans and being compared to coaches who are flavors of the month.

but he is setting himself up for those insults. Who thinks Coq is a top CDM? Wenger (and Waffi). Who thinks Mustafi, Gabriel, Ramsey, Walcott, Gibbs etc are top quality players? Wenger (and Waffi). Who walks around during transfer windows claiming "quality players are not available", and then making cheap bids.

There you go.

Ah Chief, I am sure you were one of those hyping Le Coq when he came out shining a season or 2 ago. I have to admit, he has lost it again in recent times and Elneny is a much better player than he is.

Me sef, i don't tire. Its like it doesn't matter the players we have, the same thing still happens. Well looks like we are going round and round in circles as the saying goes, it is foolishness to do things the same way and expect a different result.

I like Arsene but e get as e be. I think maybe it is time to move on, even if initially we struggle with a new manager, we are the Arsenal, we will stabilise again and become great again.

#MAKE_ARSENAL_GREAT_AGAIN

Sorry, I never bought the Coq hype. I always believed he wasn't up to par. Of course, I only commented on what I perceived as his shortcomings, while acknowledging the void he was covering. It was Waffi who had all kinds of stats about how Coq was the best in Europe. As much as he "tried", he always had difficulty doing common-sense things, almost every game. Be it rash tackling to injure himself or get carded, or failing to pass to the open man, or bombing forward not knowing what to do with the ball. We were told that we didn't value him just because he is cheap....

[platinum]

Mustafa is so so stupid.

But Al waffledmouth was twerking when Mustafi was bought. He claimed that Mustafi is as good as Bailly.

There is something that happens to players when they reach Arsenal..they catch the arsenalitis fever!

Oga Oloye, I hear you but I do not completely agree. You look at the players aresenal go for and many of them are at best, average.

I remember when they got Gabriel and many of them were lying that they have watched him and he is amazing. I knew Gabriel from Spain and he is an average karate player. Same thing with Mustafi. I casted doubt on him because I know him. he failed at everton, was great at sampdoria and frankly he was overrated at Valencia. I warned them and they didnt listen.


Same as Xhaka. I remember when waffi was making mouth saying Xhaka is this and that and claiming Xhaka turned down City I laughed because I know Xhaka. And like i said to waffi then, I like Xhaka a lot, but he is soooo slow and the way he plays (even though he tries to be aggressive) just didnt give me confidence that he will succeed in England.

Then you have coquelin who is a division 3 player. Was great at Charlton and they called him back.. he came back and had an amazing 5 months and all of a sudden, wenger forgot that there is a reason he loaned the boy to Charlton. Instead, he made the boy his first choice. lol

Then I remember when they bought Ozil and they were all twerking and I told them that i knew Ozil very well... very well! And there is a reason why Mourinho (who called Ozil the best number 10) refused to buy Ozil, even after Ozil begged Mourinho to take him to Chelsea! Ozil is lazy lazy and lazy! He is possibly the laziest thing you will ever come across.

Then Sanchez! Their best player. I warned them too. I know sanchez. As great as he is, Sanchez is very dumb! This guy will dribble into cul de sac and keep knocking his head on the wall. Never looks up when he plays and doesnt understand that football can be played with the brain.

All these players and more .. like El Neny and the striker they got from Deportivo are all average or above average players ith huge negatives! They didnt learn it at arsenal, they are just not good enough to play for a title winning team. Put them all together and you have a collection of losers.

disagree. double digits assist says otherwise. Does he still sometimes dribble into cul-de-sacs? yes. But he is not brainless.

Yes. You can score 400 goals and 200 assists and still be brainless. More often than not, he makes the wrong decision because he doent play with his head. SOme years ago, at Barcelona, I remember Pep angrily telling Alexis to "use your head"



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YE5IHzPGUhs

rubbish, he has more awareness now than he did at Barca. Is he prone to bouts of dribbling into cul-de-sacs? He is not brainless. I doubt you have watched him often lateley

I don't want to go to the extremes danfo has gone but his general premise is spot on. Alexis has immense gifts but he's too selfish to the point where you end up calling to question his smarts. I have said often...if he had Ozil's brain and vision, he'd be the best player on the planet. Conversely if Ozil had his heart and fight, the German would be the finest #10 the world has seen in a long time. Either way, Arsenal is stuck with two flawed players who MIGHT click under the right manager. Under a laissez faire manager, they're prone to bouts of racking inconsistency and bringing out the best and worst at the times you cannot predict.

[platinum]

Coq, 0 tackles won, 6 passes completed. That's the main story of the night. Not Xhaka, Mustafi, Ozil, Alexis. The CM, the position that Kante was supposedly too pricey for.

[oloye]

Coq, 0 tackles won, 6 passes completed. That's the main story of the night. Not Xhaka, Mustafi, Ozil, Alexis. The CM, the position that Kante was supposedly too pricey for.

The board and Wenger together are the ones raping the club denying her the success it deserves on the field. How many times have the goat of a manager come out to claim he almost signed players who went on to become awesome players?

[oloye]

I saw enough of Ozil at Real to realise i can never as a manager buy him to play for my club. When everyone was hyping the dude , all i saw was a player who wilts when the going gets tough...now those are not my kind of players.

[anikulapo]

I saw enough of Ozil at Real to realise i can never as a manager buy him to play for my club. When everyone was hyping the dude , all i saw was a player who wilts when the going gets tough...now those are not my kind of players.

How much abuse have I received for pointing this out the day Arsenal got raped and duped into buying this worthless piece of beady eyes .... I have Naija friends who are Chelshyt fans even calling me to tell me how they were feeling sorry for Arsenal and even cursing him yesterdyav

I laugh tire in spite of how I was feeling

[platinum]

I saw enough of Ozil at Real to realise i can never as a manager buy him to play for my club. When everyone was hyping the dude , all i saw was a player who wilts when the going gets tough...now those are not my kind of players.

How much abuse have I received for pointing this out the day Arsenal got raped and duped into buying this worthless piece of beady eyes .... I have Naija friends who are Chelshyt fans even calling me to tell me how they were feeling sorry for Arsenal and even cursing him yesterdyav

I laugh tire in spite of how I was feeling

[peron33uk]

Is there anybody here who thinks Wenger is in the same class as Conte, Guardiola, Klopp, Pochetino or even that chap managing Everton?
There is no reason for his contract to be renewed. It's time for Arsene to go.

This is absolutely ridiculous! What have they won? Have they even finished above Wenger in the League? Even Klopp? I think the disrespect Wenger is getting is absolutely ridiculous!

I hear you, but bia, who is signing all those average players and touting them to be all that, just because they can make top 4 in the kung-fu league?

It is wenger signing them and frankly, it is his fault. But my problem is the insult he is getting from your fans and being compared to coaches who are flavors of the month.

but he is setting himself up for those insults. Who thinks Coq is a top CDM? Wenger (and Waffi). Who thinks Mustafi, Gabriel, Ramsey, Walcott, Gibbs etc are top quality players? Wenger (and Waffi). Who walks around during transfer windows claiming "quality players are not available", and then making cheap bids.

There you go.

Ah Chief, I am sure you were one of those hyping Le Coq when he came out shining a season or 2 ago. I have to admit, he has lost it again in recent times and Elneny is a much better player than he is.

Me sef, i don't tire. Its like it doesn't matter the players we have, the same thing still happens. Well looks like we are going round and round in circles as the saying goes, it is foolishness to do things the same way and expect a different result.

I like Arsene but e get as e be. I think maybe it is time to move on, even if initially we struggle with a new manager, we are the Arsenal, we will stabilise again and become great again.

#MAKE_ARSENAL_GREAT_AGAIN

Sorry, I never bought the Coq hype. I always believed he wasn't up to par. Of course, I only commented on what I perceived as his shortcomings, while acknowledging the void he was covering. It was Waffi who had all kinds of stats about how Coq was the best in Europe. As much as he "tried", he always had difficulty doing common-sense things, almost every game. Be it rash tackling to injure himself or get carded, or failing to pass to the open man, or bombing forward not knowing what to do with the ball. We were told that we didn't value him just because he is cheap....

Fact was that Le Coq was good at some point, i think he was that good. But seems like he slacked a bit and now he has regressed badly. He at some point was the marshal in our midfield.

Anyway, Le Coq, Sanchez, Ozil, Xhaka etc they all have their issues, its not one players issue it is a team thing which unfortunately comes down to leadership not just with the players alone on the pitch but in management.

So i think change is needed, both players and management but especially management.

[azuka]

I saw enough of Ozil at Real to realise i can never as a manager buy him to play for my club. When everyone was hyping the dude , all i saw was a player who wilts when the going gets tough...now those are not my kind of players.

Oloye please don't join those using Ozil as a scapegoat. His case is like a soldier sent to the warfront with gun that works epileptically. To Ozil to function u need to assign only 25% or less defensive duties to him. Imagine Ozil lined up alongside Kante.

[platinum]

I saw enough of Ozil at Real to realise i can never as a manager buy him to play for my club. When everyone was hyping the dude , all i saw was a player who wilts when the going gets tough...now those are not my kind of players.

Oloye please don't join those using Ozil as a scapegoat. His case is like a soldier sent to the warfront with gun that works epileptically. To Ozil to function u need to assign only 25% or less defensive duties to him. Imagine Ozil lined up alongside Kante.

Oloye never liked Ozil. He's been pretty clear about it since the Real Madrid days. His stance has not changed so I don't think he's joining anything.

[metalalloy]

Kai una sabi overreach sha.. its just a bad day in the office. Thats the beauty of C.League footie, anyone can be annihilated on any given day.

[oloye]

I saw enough of Ozil at Real to realise i can never as a manager buy him to play for my club. When everyone was hyping the dude , all i saw was a player who wilts when the going gets tough...now those are not my kind of players.

Oloye please don't join those using Ozil as a scapegoat. His case is like a soldier sent to the warfront with gun that works epileptically. To Ozil to function u need to assign only 25% or less defensive duties to him. Imagine Ozil lined up alongside Kante.

Azuka some of us have been bashing Ozil while Arsenal was saving up to buy him

Some of those bashing him today were the ones hyping him and telling me i dont know what i was doing. Man mi Ozil is like the old skoda...looks good on the eye but rubbish on the road! There is only one reason i dont like his game, it has to do with my nature and personality....i cannot stand spineless players. There is a reason i am gushing all over Kante....a tireless fighter with big humongous cojones!

Yes he is sorrounded by muppets at Arsenal, but i saw how spineless he was when he was sorrounded by galacticos at Real.

[ohsee]

Why una dey cry? All Arsenal has to do is beat Bayern four-kondo at the Emirates.