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^^ I like how this guys just dreams up solutions..This is Nigeria we are talking about
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Robotnik wrote:^^ I like how this guys just dreams up solutions..This is Nigeria we are talking about
Thank you and where did this computer generated image of a nice shiny stadium appear from?
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I hope they don't ruin the fan experience at Onikan.
Elaborating on the scope of the upgrade, the Commissioner said the work would entail complete demolition of the existing facility, removal of the old turf, pitch, underground drainage and artificial pitch base. He further stated that rehabilitation works would also be done on external and internal walls, electrical and mechanical installations; paved driveways, perimeter fence; borehole and water reticulation as well as external electricity lighting and landscaping amongst others. Onikan Stadium has, over the years, served as a multi-purpose stadium used for many social and political activities apart from hosting of football matches but its fortunes nosedived in the past few years due to inadequate funding and maintenance. “The Governor realized that the stadium in its present state could not inspire any sense of pride in Lagosians, especially our youths, and falls short of the expectations of a State that has always led the rest of the country in sporting activities,” Ayorinde noted. He added that the reconstruction and upgrade of the stadium would complement the adjoining JK Randle Arts Centre, the proposed Lagos Museum, the Lagos History Centre as well as the Lagos Heritage Centre which are all tourism-inspired projects. “Governor Ambode is passionate about sports development in the state, from the grassroots to the world stage and he is excited that the reconstruction will rekindle the love for local football league that is synonymous with the stadium and Lagos Island,” Ayorinde said.
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I think the Lagos State Govt is making a strong case for outright takeover and ownership of the facility. Just like other states did with Federal Stadiums in their territories.



quote="realtrouble"]It's the same old story, too much talk and little action, Ambode should focus on renovating Oshodi road and other major road network. What is the situation with the Blue and Red Light rail network.[/quote]
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This will classically become another whining thread for Nigerians to bash Govt, make wild unsubstantiable allegations, self hating comments etc.......I will not go down that lane. I believe again that Nigeria populace are more guilty than the Govt we blame 24/7....Its self explanatory. Having said that I will proffer solution than continue to complain. I will urge any entrepreneural Nigerian out there to form a consultancy company and negotiate with the Govt to manage the stadium for next 5 years....Give Govt a guarantee that you will make em a profit of $1M dollar a year and you will maintain the stadium......Now, go out there and bring clubs to play there; local league teams......friendlies....bring Athletics, bring music concerts, organize interhouse sports even a few owambe parties, wrestling, boxing.....this is the idea of capitalism....This is what is needed......
People don't understand that GOVT are not supposed to do all these but smart citizens...All we do is sit down and expect Govt to do it all
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^^^^ :clap: :clap: :clap:
we have a socialist mindset in that country
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miky wrote:^^^^ :clap: :clap: :clap:
we have a socialist mindset in that country
And yours is the sort of mindset that assures that many citizens of the world wealthiest nation still have no (or very limited) access to affordable healthcare...

Bros, I like to think of myself as a diehard capitalist, but Capitalism is not a panacea for all things, and where private enterprise fall short there’s nothing wrong with public capital stepping up to the plate. The supposedly “private” stadiums in the US would neither exist nor survive with great dollops of governmental subsidies and support. Meanwhile, in Nigeria, while there is NO prohibition of private stadiums (and a few actually exists), precisely because most Nigerian businessmen have “capitalist mindset” they would sooner make a killing importing stockfish (that the producers actually have no real use for) than building stadiums in a country where a televised game between Brighton and Bournemouth is likely to draw a significantly greater audience than almost any NPFL game. Capital follows demand, and thus unless you private stadium developers can assure of a Wizkid, Davido, Tekno, Olamide or Runtown concert every week, or book TB Joshua, Pastor Adeboye or any other number of self-anointed Apostles and Archbishops, just can’t see Nigerian private capital investing in stadium development.
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theYemster wrote:
Ayo Akinfe wrote:I fail to see the logic of having two stadia right next to each other. One should be knocked down and turned into a commercial premises for other purposes. I think the federal government should just hand the stadium to he Lagos State government and let it do with it as it pleases.

However, my big problem is that the Teslim Balogun Stadium only has a capacity of 23,000 compared with the 45,000 of the National Stadium. For me, the big mistake was building the Teslim Balogun Stadium. Totally unnecessary!
My suggestion would be to demolish the national stadium and rebuild it complete with a modern shopping complex/mall, restaurants etc. and other revenue generating facilities.

The Teslim Balogun stadium can then be redesigned into either a multipurpose complex like the O2 arena for basketball, arts theatre that can also be used for political rallies to generate additional revenue. Or it can also be turned into a training complex for the National team complete with accommodation etc.
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ohenhen1 wrote:I hope they don't ruin the fan experience at Onikan.
You mean like throwing urine at those in the stands below and smoking weed in the terraces...
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Gotti wrote:
miky wrote:^^^^ :clap: :clap: :clap:
we have a socialist mindset in that country
And yours is the sort of mindset that assures that many citizens of the world wealthiest nation still have no (or very limited) access to affordable healthcare...

Bros, I like to think of myself as a diehard capitalist, but Capitalism is not a panacea for all things, and where private enterprise fall short there’s nothing wrong with public capital stepping up to the plate. The supposedly “private” stadiums in the US would neither exist nor survive with great dollops of governmental subsidies and support. Meanwhile, in Nigeria, while there is NO prohibition of private stadiums (and a few actually exists), precisely because most Nigerian businessmen have “capitalist mindset” they would sooner make a killing importing stockfish (that the producers actually have no real use for) than building stadiums in a country where a televised game between Brighton and Bournemouth is likely to draw a significantly greater audience than almost any NPFL game. Capital follows demand, and thus unless you private stadium developers can assure of a Wizkid, Davido, Tekno, Olamide or Runtown concert every week, or book TB Joshua, Pastor Adeboye or any other number of self-anointed Apostles and Archbishops, just can’t see Nigerian private capital investing in stadium development.
Whats your point about health care,? Be more specific......
Chief Gotti, the key is to TRY.....Every entrepreneur knows that you have to fail to succeed. You will agree that its a worthy idea. I like the example of how EPL has taken over in Nigeria...so unfortunate. I used to live in Karimu st, ojuelegba just a mile from that stadium. While I watched foreign games (limited those days) on TV, I went to staium to watch SE train, all of Leventis/ Gboke, Iwuanyawu, Rangers, Flying eagles, SE...everything and it was fun!.....Me believe there's tremendous opportunity in marketing for such in Nigeria If properly exploited.....Its not whether it should be done, IT SHOULD be DONE, GOTTI.......Its not even about capitalism, you can't expect Govt to maintain something like that!....Yes GOVT can subsidize, nothing wrong with that, bottomline is PRIVATE enterprise have to take over instead of blamers coming out to blame....
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Gotti wrote:
theYemster wrote:
Ayo Akinfe wrote:I fail to see the logic of having two stadia right next to each other. One should be knocked down and turned into a commercial premises for other purposes. I think the federal government should just hand the stadium to he Lagos State government and let it do with it as it pleases.

However, my big problem is that the Teslim Balogun Stadium only has a capacity of 23,000 compared with the 45,000 of the National Stadium. For me, the big mistake was building the Teslim Balogun Stadium. Totally unnecessary!
My suggestion would be to demolish the national stadium and rebuild it complete with a modern shopping complex/mall, restaurants etc. and other revenue generating facilities.

The Teslim Balogun stadium can then be redesigned into either a multipurpose complex like the O2 arena for basketball, arts theatre that can also be used for political rallies to generate additional revenue. Or it can also be turned into a training complex for the National team complete with accommodation etc.
:clap: :clap: :clap:

Why not turn Teslim Balogun stadium into a shopping mall complex and upgrade the National stadium into a world class sporting arena, similar to the Stratford Westfield mall/ London Olympic stadium.
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The real deal wrote:Whats your point about health care,? Be more specific......
Chief Gotti, the key is to TRY.....Every entrepreneur knows that you have to fail to succeed. You will agree that its a worthy idea. I like the example of how EPL has taken over in Nigeria...so unfortunate. I used to live in Karimu st, ojuelegba just a mile from that stadium. While I watched foreign games (limited those days) on TV, I went to staium to watch SE train, all of Leventis/ Gboke, Iwuanyawu, Rangers, Flying eagles, SE...everything and it was fun!.....Me believe there's tremendous opportunity in marketing for such in Nigeria If properly exploited.....Its not whether it should be done, IT SHOULD be DONE, GOTTI.......Its not even about capitalism, you can't expect Govt to maintain something like that!....Yes GOVT can subsidize, nothing wrong with that, bottomline is PRIVATE enterprise have to take over instead of blamers coming out to blame....
My point is that some folks get so DOGMATIC that they miss the good while unsuccessfully chasing the perfect....

Accordingly, the dogmatic abhorrence for so-called “socialized” healthcare has led to the disgraceful irony that, in not only the world’s wealthiest ever nation but also the nation with the highest healthcare spend, tens of millions of citizens (including scores of tax-paying citizens) are unable to afford (or adequately afford) healthcare. We just to be more PRAGMATIC (rather than doggedly dogmatic) about these issues. Like I previously noted, we actually have private stadia in Nigeria - and most of them are just as rundown as their public counterparts (if not worse). Private ownership just by itself is not a panacea for structural issues, and the privatization of the electricity sector is an object lesson thereto.
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The real deal wrote:This will classically become another whining thread for Nigerians to bash Govt, make wild unsubstantiable allegations, self hating comments etc.......I will not go down that lane. I believe again that Nigeria populace are more guilty than the Govt we blame 24/7....Its self explanatory. Having said that I will proffer solution than continue to complain. I will urge any entrepreneural Nigerian out there to form a consultancy company and negotiate with the Govt to manage the stadium for next 5 years....Give Govt a guarantee that you will make em a profit of $1M dollar a year and you will maintain the stadium......Now, go out there and bring clubs to play there; local league teams......friendlies....bring Athletics, bring music concerts, organize interhouse sports even a few owambe parties, wrestling, boxing.....this is the idea of capitalism....This is what is needed......
People don't understand that GOVT are not supposed to do all these but smart citizens...All we do is sit down and expect Govt to do it all
The Nigerian populace isnt doing its part...we are asleep!!!

A more practical/workable proposal...
Until you actually try to execute it in Nigeria - witness the National Theatre. :oops:
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realtrouble wrote:
Gotti wrote:
theYemster wrote:
Ayo Akinfe wrote:I fail to see the logic of having two stadia right next to each other. One should be knocked down and turned into a commercial premises for other purposes. I think the federal government should just hand the stadium to he Lagos State government and let it do with it as it pleases.

However, my big problem is that the Teslim Balogun Stadium only has a capacity of 23,000 compared with the 45,000 of the National Stadium. For me, the big mistake was building the Teslim Balogun Stadium. Totally unnecessary!
My suggestion would be to demolish the national stadium and rebuild it complete with a modern shopping complex/mall, restaurants etc. and other revenue generating facilities.

The Teslim Balogun stadium can then be redesigned into either a multipurpose complex like the O2 arena for basketball, arts theatre that can also be used for political rallies to generate additional revenue. Or it can also be turned into a training complex for the National team complete with accommodation etc.
:clap: :clap: :clap:

Why not turn Teslim Balogun stadium into a shopping mall complex and upgrade the National stadium into a world class sporting arena, similar to the Stratford Westfield mall/ London Olympic stadium.
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realtrouble wrote:Why not turn Teslim Balogun stadium into a shopping mall complex and upgrade the National stadium into a world class sporting arena, similar to the Stratford Westfield mall/ London Olympic stadium.
Thats a good idea though there is a shopping mall and cinema complex (Filmhouse) a quarter of a mile up the road at the other end of Adeniran Ogunsanya street.
One idea I think is worth exploring is building a world-class entertainment complex on the TBS site. Surulere is seen by many to be the 'home' of Nollywood for historical reasons. There is a widespread belief that Nollywood is a physical location and I have met numerous people in the UK who would like to "visit Nollywood", just like they do Hollywood.

An entertainment complex hosting a Nollywood museum as well as its musical equivalent should attract tourists and locals alike. It could also house a world class theatre for stage plays and a small cinema. Lagos state can have a special section dedicated to its own entertainment history.

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I can understand taking over neglected federal govt roads and other critical infrastructure...but one would have to think there are far more useful ventures for Lagos money than the National Stadium. Stupid
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Handover the stadium to lagos State.
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Damunk wrote:
realtrouble wrote:Why not turn Teslim Balogun stadium into a shopping mall complex and upgrade the National stadium into a world class sporting arena, similar to the Stratford Westfield mall/ London Olympic stadium.
Thats a good idea though there is a shopping mall and cinema complex (Filmhouse) a quarter of a mile up the road at the other end of Adeniran Ogunsanya street.
One idea I think is worth exploring is building a world-class entertainment complex on the TBS site. Surulere is seen by many to be the 'home' of Nollywood for historical reasons. There is a widespread belief that Nollywood is a physical location and I have met numerous people in the UK who would like to "visit Nollywood", just like they do Hollywood.

An entertainment complex hosting a Nollywood museum as well as its musical equivalent should attract tourists and locals alike. It could also house a world class theatre for stage plays and a small cinema. Lagos state can have a special section dedicated to its own entertainment history.

Our entertainment heritage needs to be preserved and packaged.
They (via PPP) are building an entertainment complex in the new reclaimed Oworonshoki...
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deanotito wrote:I can understand taking over neglected federal govt roads and other critical infrastructure...but one would have to think there are far more useful ventures for Lagos money than the National Stadium. Stupid
The National Stadium in its present state is a disgraceful blight that should either be demolished or redeveloped. Continuing to leave it the way it currently is should not be the option that we elect.

While I concur that the redevelopment of the National Stadium should not be a priority for Lagos State (and I do not believe it is, since nothing tangible in that respect has been done since the state’s intent to take over the Stadium was proposed - and it still currently remains the property of the federal government), it should nonetheless suffice to point out that a good stadium is akin to most other infrastructure (and actually serves the double purpose of both physical and social infrastructure). It’s quite the shame that even to this day and age, many folks still regard sports primarily as a pastime largely the conserve of ne’er-do-wells and the academically unambitious rather than the industry that it is, with its own value chain providing employment, livelihoods and sundry opportunities for scores of citizens. In the respect, a first-rate stadium with top-notch facilities serves substantively the same infrastructural function as a training center, an incubator, a school or other educational facility, etc.

Frankly, if Gov Ambode has a problem, it may well be that he is possibly too ambitious (at least within the Nigerian context) and may be overstretching the state’s capacity. He has taken over federal roads in Lagos (the latest being the redevelopment of the Airport Road - Oshodi Expressway), taken over the dilapidated National Museum Onikan and the old Marina State House, embarking on a project to redevelop both (along with the JK Randle Center, the TBS axis and the entire Marina - Apongbon stretch). Reality is that once the federal capital was relocated to Abuja, the federal government all but abandoned Lagos and were it not largely for the efforts of Messrs Fashola and Ambode (and one supposes Tinubu as well), Lagos would have long sunk into the abyss.
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ohenhen1 wrote:I hope they don't ruin the fan experience at Onikan.
You mean like throwing urine at those in the stands below and smoking weed in the terraces...
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deanotito wrote:I can understand taking over neglected federal govt roads and other critical infrastructure...but one would have to think there are far more useful ventures for Lagos money than the National Stadium. Stupid

That is one of the problems with Nigeria. We focus on one thing and ignore other opportunities. The government want to improve revenue coming from tourism. It will also create jobs.

The government is also fixing roads.
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ohenhen1 wrote:
deanotito wrote:I can understand taking over neglected federal govt roads and other critical infrastructure...but one would have to think there are far more useful ventures for Lagos money than the National Stadium. Stupid

That is one of the problems with Nigeria. We focus on one thing and ignore other opportunities. The government want to improve revenue coming from tourism. It will also create jobs.

The government is also fixing roads.
On the other hand they can promise to deliver in so many fronts and fail in all of them,not much will change in the next ten years!
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Gotti wrote:
Damunk wrote:
realtrouble wrote:Why not turn Teslim Balogun stadium into a shopping mall complex and upgrade the National stadium into a world class sporting arena, similar to the Stratford Westfield mall/ London Olympic stadium.
Thats a good idea though there is a shopping mall and cinema complex (Filmhouse) a quarter of a mile up the road at the other end of Adeniran Ogunsanya street.
One idea I think is worth exploring is building a world-class entertainment complex on the TBS site. Surulere is seen by many to be the 'home' of Nollywood for historical reasons. There is a widespread belief that Nollywood is a physical location and I have met numerous people in the UK who would like to "visit Nollywood", just like they do Hollywood.

An entertainment complex hosting a Nollywood museum as well as its musical equivalent should attract tourists and locals alike. It could also house a world class theatre for stage plays and a small cinema. Lagos state can have a special section dedicated to its own entertainment history.

Our entertainment heritage needs to be preserved and packaged.
They (via PPP) are building an entertainment complex in the new reclaimed Oworonshoki...
Gotti, is this a complex meant to service the entertainment needs of the local community there, or is it more a project aimed at attracting patronage from far and wide?
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