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PostPosted: Fri Mar 03, 2017 8:39 pm 
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@Damunk, no one is running with anything and truth be told, t'is no skin of one's nose whether Dele is Alli or Allen. He doesn't want to know and that's that. The only bone to pick here is the reporting to Daily Mail and the timing. If he remains Dele till the cows come home, it doesn't disturb the inertia, he has his reasons. What this case does show however, is how important it is to be there and not assume a few letters on a surname offer any guarantee.


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Just be careful how you raise your kids, be firm but please be there for them and try and get to know them....the ancient Naija way won't work especially in the West....understand your kid, the environment, their strengths and weaknesses.

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@TrueTalk his father did not stop being his father at the age of 13. Dele still spent summers in the US as recently as three years ago



thanks for the clarification, especially regarding ~ 3 yrs ago. That makes him ~ 17 at the time. If a 20-yr old suddenly decides to drop his last name despite being close to his Dad up to age 17 (at least), something must have really happened recently. Or he must be really immature if someone can convince him at 20 to do that!


It was either 2013 or 2014 but I can confirm don't want to misinform but he was either 16 or 17

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^What they assumed was a better life. It's one thing to work away from home, visit on weekends, bank holidays etc another thing to move on entirely....even if it's for the best of one's footballing development.

Out of interest, did Dad contact the Daily Mail when Dele was at Milton Keyes too?

I don't understand why you are been unfairly and critically harsh on Dele's dad when a member of this board has tried to give us a balanced side of events. Daily Mail has always been known for sensationalizing stories and this appears to be one of them. Life is never black and white. There are many factors that can lead to a family getting separated with a kid forced to live in a not too ideal situation. The bottomline is has the father made any attempt to continue to be a part of his son's life before and after the family was torn apart? From reports we have read Dele has lived with his father in Nigeria and US so this is not a case of abandonment.

Please note, Dele has not come to say directly that he has any issues with his dad. I have not read any quote where he said his father abandoned him. Before the beginning of the season Dele gave an interview where he said he no longer identifies with the name Alli and only wants to be known as Dele. He never said what the issue was, whom he was having problems with nor do we know if he has since resolved the matter. This is a family matter and it is best we respect their privacy. Every family has their own unique issues and it will be unfair for it to be blasted, discussed and dissected over the social media willy nilly.


But when you changed your name from Its A Goal to Its a Goat, wasn't it because you had problems with goals?

...or had an affinity for goats, as per being a Spuds fan.

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Tottenham star Dele Alli's parents in legal fight over his MK Dons contract

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Dele Alli's parents are pursuing legal action as neither of them signed his first professional forms with MK Dons
Since the age of 13, midfielder Alli has lived with Alan and Sally Hickford
The Hickford's signatures are on Alli's MK Dons contract but their status is the loophole being exploited


Tottenham and England star Dele Alli goes into the international week with a family dispute gathering momentum.

Alli's parents Denise and Kehinde, who split when Dele was three, are pursuing legal action because neither of them signed his first professional forms with MK Dons as a 16-year-old, allegedly in breach of regulations.

Since the age of 13, Alli has lived with Alan and Sally Hickford — parents of Harry Hickford, another MK Dons academy player. Alli considers Alan and Sally his mum and dad, but they have never officially adopted him.
The Hickfords' signatures are on Alli's MK Dons contract but their status at the time — only the homeowners of his digs by the letter of the law — is the loophole being exploited by his parents.

Denise and Kehinde are estranged from Alli to the extent he took the family surname off his Tottenham shirt at the start of the season.

Alli, who is expected to feature for England against Germany and Lithuania this week, has already had to cope with his parents complaining that he wants nothing to do with them, despite the fact it is believed he gives them money.


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/footba ... z4bsPBa744

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Oh no!!! I hope they find resolution

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If this ever gets to court, hopefully commonsense will prevail and the parents "claim" will be dismissed, as it is plain to see that the Hickfords were acting "in loco parentis". As it is, the article doesn't say what the parents are gunning for but it is plain to see that no harm has come to the lad, no one has exploited him (save for the attempts now by his parents), he personally is not taking any retrospective action, and if there was any compensation due it would surely go to him rather than the parents.

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If this ever gets to court, hopefully commonsense will prevail and the parents "claim" will be dismissed, as it is plain to see that the Hickfords were acting "in loco parentis". As it is, the article doesn't say what the parents are gunning for but it is plain to see that no harm has come to the lad, no one has exploited him (save for the attempts now by his parents), he personally is not taking any retrospective action, and if there was any compensation due it would surely go to him rather than the parents.

The club and the in loco parents exploited the boy, The club should have known better, you cannot even approach the boy without the parents permission.

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And Dad of the year waited till he was the golden boy of North London. Did deadbeat Dad call up the courthouse when he wearing bibs in Bedfordshire? #YouWasntWithMeShootingInTheGym


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Damunk wrote:
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@TrueTalk his father did not stop being his father at the age of 13. Dele still spent summers in the US as recently as three years ago[/

At age 20, I was nearing completion of my degree. If I ever had any rebellious thoughts about my Dad (to the extent of changing family name), I would have slapped myself, added backhand, and gone to do angu 90 at the corner..
:D :D :D Same here.

But let me tell you a few things I did...
1. I refused to go home for about 15 months becos I was 'angry' with my dad. Despite pleas from my mum and sisters. Despite living barely 5 miles from the medical school in Lagos.
I maintained myself by hiring film projectors and films and showing them on University campuses in Lagos Ibadan and Ife for a gate fee. That's probably how I fell in love with film.
When I eventually agreed to go back home, my father simply asked 'So what were you trying to prove?' and I felt real stupid for ever thinking he would say 'sorry'.

2. I was always absconding from town. Like I had 'Sokugo' - the 'Wanderer's Disease' in Cyprian Ekwensi's 'Burning Grass'. Jos, Calabar, Ibadan, Kaduna, Abuja, Ilorin, Ife... even London. No warning. Not telling even my roommates where I was going, or when. Once my parents came looking for me and my roommates had to lie that they saw me 'yesterday', whereas they hadn't seen me for 2 weeks and had no idea where I was...

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Seriously though, everyone is different, and I see your point. My point (piggying-back on Ugly's position), is mainly about the level of immaturity that would make a 20-yr old amenable to such bad "influences" as to drop one's family name. I think it is a different situation if he made a mature/immature decision to that effect on his own
That's the life of some 20-year-olds and 'Stupidity' is their middle name.
You were too wise for your age.. :lol:


Damunk somebody should have slapped that wandering spirit out of you and take you to some revival to lay hands and cast out "some demons" lol
This no be normal behavior for a 20 year old o lol

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zoldsasok wrote:
Damunk wrote:
Chief Ogbunigwe wrote:
Damunk wrote:
Chief Ogbunigwe wrote:
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@TrueTalk his father did not stop being his father at the age of 13. Dele still spent summers in the US as recently as three years ago[/

At age 20, I was nearing completion of my degree. If I ever had any rebellious thoughts about my Dad (to the extent of changing family name), I would have slapped myself, added backhand, and gone to do angu 90 at the corner..
:D :D :D Same here.

But let me tell you a few things I did...
1. I refused to go home for about 15 months becos I was 'angry' with my dad. Despite pleas from my mum and sisters. Despite living barely 5 miles from the medical school in Lagos.
I maintained myself by hiring film projectors and films and showing them on University campuses in Lagos Ibadan and Ife for a gate fee. That's probably how I fell in love with film.
When I eventually agreed to go back home, my father simply asked 'So what were you trying to prove?' and I felt real stupid for ever thinking he would say 'sorry'.

2. I was always absconding from town. Like I had 'Sokugo' - the 'Wanderer's Disease' in Cyprian Ekwensi's 'Burning Grass'. Jos, Calabar, Ibadan, Kaduna, Abuja, Ilorin, Ife... even London. No warning. Not telling even my roommates where I was going, or when. Once my parents came looking for me and my roommates had to lie that they saw me 'yesterday', whereas they hadn't seen me for 2 weeks and had no idea where I was...

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Seriously though, everyone is different, and I see your point. My point (piggying-back on Ugly's position), is mainly about the level of immaturity that would make a 20-yr old amenable to such bad "influences" as to drop one's family name. I think it is a different situation if he made a mature/immature decision to that effect on his own
That's the life of some 20-year-olds and 'Stupidity' is their middle name.
You were too wise for your age.. :lol:


Damunk somebody should have slapped that wandering spirit out of you and take you to some revival to lay hands and cast out "some demons" lol
This no be normal behavior for a 20 year old o lol


It actually is! At FUTO, I had a diassagreement with my father and decided I am done with him. I had a source of income...abeg no ask lol. I stuck to my gun for over 2 semesters despite all attempts by my mother to get me to visit home. I was going from one Uni to another during breaks but never home. The only thing that brought me home was Yankee visa lottery that I didn't even apply for but won thanks to an uncle...

My point being, at 20, there are things most of us did that makes little to no sense now. Especially when you look back at them with mature vision now.

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And Dad of the year waited till he was the golden boy of North London. Did deadbeat Dad call up the courthouse when he wearing bibs in Bedfordshire? #YouWasntWithMeShootingInTheGym


& how do you know he was a deadbeat Dad? Those in the know here have suggested otherwise and there might be a clear case of exploitatiion here.

Unless you know otherwise, I suggest you stop stating your opinions as facts & wait to see how this plays out.


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Cito wrote:
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Damunk somebody should have slapped that wandering spirit out of you and take you to some revival to lay hands and cast out "some demons" lol
This no be normal behavior for a 20 year old o lol


It actually is! At FUTO, I had a diassagreement with my father and decided I am done with him. I had a source of income...abeg no ask lol. I stuck to my gun for over 2 semesters despite all attempts by my mother to get me to visit home. I was going from one Uni to another during breaks but never home. The only thing that brought me home was Yankee visa lottery that I didn't even apply for but won thanks to an uncle...

My point being, at 20, there are things most of us did that makes little to no sense now. Especially when you look back at them with mature vision now.


Mscheew...no wonder you dey tok anyhow for CE. To say na me be your Pops, I for come find you with koboko, come begin give you serious lashes in presence of those yeye girls wey you dey pose for. Foolish boy :taunt: :taunt: :taunt:

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@Truetalk, no one is stating opinion as fact, rather arriving at a conclusion through the most basic of arithmetic.

kSon + (foster parents/absent fathers other children physically fathered) - Absent Father x [nDaily Mail interviews + nMOTM awards] = Deadbeat Dad.

where k = now that he's famous


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^In truth, this isn't news and doesnt merit backpage, middle page of even a scribble in the margin. Dele is doing tremendously well this season and is a frontrunner for YPOY, his foster parents must be proud to see the young boy they illegally gave a chance at Milton Keynes, blossom into a star for club and country. His biological parents can be proud too, had they not given him up, would he be where he is today. Welldone to the lot of them...No more Daily Mail.


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Chief Ogbunigwe wrote:
Cito wrote:
zoldsasok wrote:

Damunk somebody should have slapped that wandering spirit out of you and take you to some revival to lay hands and cast out "some demons" lol
This no be normal behavior for a 20 year old o lol


It actually is! At FUTO, I had a disagreement with my father and decided I am done with him. I had a source of income...abeg no ask lol. I stuck to my gun for over 2 semesters despite all attempts by my mother to get me to visit home. I was going from one Uni to another during breaks but never home. The only thing that brought me home was Yankee visa lottery that I didn't even apply for but won thanks to an uncle...

My point being, at 20, there are things most of us did that makes little to no sense now. Especially when you look back at them with mature vision now.


Mscheew...no wonder you dey tok anyhow for CE. To say na me be your Pops, I for come find you with koboko, come begin give you serious lashes in presence of those yeye girls wey you dey pose for. Foolish boy :taunt: :taunt: :taunt:

Nah my popsy no give a shiite about person wey de throw tantrum. :D
Are you jealous I got all dem girls instead of your old self? :taunt:

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Cito wrote:
Chief Ogbunigwe wrote:
Cito wrote:
zoldsasok wrote:

Damunk somebody should have slapped that wandering spirit out of you and take you to some revival to lay hands and cast out "some demons" lol
This no be normal behavior for a 20 year old o lol


It actually is! At FUTO, I had a disagreement with my father and decided I am done with him. I had a source of income...abeg no ask lol. I stuck to my gun for over 2 semesters despite all attempts by my mother to get me to visit home. I was going from one Uni to another during breaks but never home. The only thing that brought me home was Yankee visa lottery that I didn't even apply for but won thanks to an uncle...

My point being, at 20, there are things most of us did that makes little to no sense now. Especially when you look back at them with mature vision now.


Mscheew...no wonder you dey tok anyhow for CE. To say na me be your Pops, I for come find you with koboko, come begin give you serious lashes in presence of those yeye girls wey you dey pose for. Foolish boy :taunt: :taunt: :taunt:

Nah my popsy no give a shiite about person wey de throw tantrum. :D
Are you jealous I got all dem girls instead of your old self? :taunt:


small pikins of nowadays :veryangry: :veryangry: :veryangry:

Anyway, my Pops was "fortunate" none of us "dared" throw tantrums. Thinking back as an adult now, there were two main reasons in my opinion.
1. He started relating to us "like adults" quite early, e.g. sit you down and seek your opinion on something. Looking back, it was just Old Man wayo, because even though we felt important at that time, na stuff that didn't matter in the grand scheme of things, or something he was going to do in his own way anyway.
2. To all of us, he was this "hero without flaws". Of course, this isn't accurate, but that is how we viewed him. This opinion was shaped by his going from village boy to Oxford graduate, he was very good-looking and brilliant, but very modest and compassionate, etc. Don't know about my brothers, but I always thought I could never measure to him...

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Chief Ogbunigwe wrote:
Cito wrote:
Chief Ogbunigwe wrote:
Cito wrote:
zoldsasok wrote:

Damunk somebody should have slapped that wandering spirit out of you and take you to some revival to lay hands and cast out "some demons" lol
This no be normal behavior for a 20 year old o lol


It actually is! At FUTO, I had a disagreement with my father and decided I am done with him. I had a source of income...abeg no ask lol. I stuck to my gun for over 2 semesters despite all attempts by my mother to get me to visit home. I was going from one Uni to another during breaks but never home. The only thing that brought me home was Yankee visa lottery that I didn't even apply for but won thanks to an uncle...

My point being, at 20, there are things most of us did that makes little to no sense now. Especially when you look back at them with mature vision now.


Mscheew...no wonder you dey tok anyhow for CE. To say na me be your Pops, I for come find you with koboko, come begin give you serious lashes in presence of those yeye girls wey you dey pose for. Foolish boy :taunt: :taunt: :taunt:

Nah my popsy no give a shiite about person wey de throw tantrum. :D
Are you jealous I got all dem girls instead of your old self? :taunt:


small pikins of nowadays :veryangry: :veryangry: :veryangry:

Anyway, my Pops was "fortunate" none of us "dared" throw tantrums. Thinking back as an adult now, there were two main reasons in my opinion.
1. He started relating to us "like adults" quite early, e.g. sit you down and seek your opinion on something. Looking back, it was just Old Man wayo, because even though we felt important at that time, na stuff that didn't matter in the grand scheme of things, or something he was going to do in his own way anyway.
2. To all of us, he was this "hero without flaws". Of course, this isn't accurate, but that is how we viewed him. This opinion was shaped by his going from village boy to Oxford graduate, he was very good-looking and brilliant, but very modest and compassionate, etc. Don't know about my brothers, but I always thought I could never measure to him.
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Chief Ogbunigwe wrote:
Cito wrote:
Chief Ogbunigwe wrote:
Cito wrote:
zoldsasok wrote:

Damunk somebody should have slapped that wandering spirit out of you and take you to some revival to lay hands and cast out "some demons" lol
This no be normal behavior for a 20 year old o lol


It actually is! At FUTO, I had a disagreement with my father and decided I am done with him. I had a source of income...abeg no ask lol. I stuck to my gun for over 2 semesters despite all attempts by my mother to get me to visit home. I was going from one Uni to another during breaks but never home. The only thing that brought me home was Yankee visa lottery that I didn't even apply for but won thanks to an uncle...

My point being, at 20, there are things most of us did that makes little to no sense now. Especially when you look back at them with mature vision now.


Mscheew...no wonder you dey tok anyhow for CE. To say na me be your Pops, I for come find you with koboko, come begin give you serious lashes in presence of those yeye girls wey you dey pose for. Foolish boy :taunt: :taunt: :taunt:

Nah my popsy no give a shiite about person wey de throw tantrum. :D
Are you jealous I got all dem girls instead of your old self? :taunt:


small pikins of nowadays :veryangry: :veryangry: :veryangry:

Anyway, my Pops was "fortunate" none of us "dared" throw tantrums. Thinking back as an adult now, there were two main reasons in my opinion.
1. He started relating to us "like adults" quite early, e.g. sit you down and seek your opinion on something. Looking back, it was just Old Man wayo, because even though we felt important at that time, na stuff that didn't matter in the grand scheme of things, or something he was going to do in his own way anyway.
2. To all of us, he was this "hero without flaws". Of course, this isn't accurate, but that is how we viewed him. This opinion was shaped by his going from village boy to Oxford graduate, he was very good-looking and brilliant, but very modest and compassionate, etc. Don't know about my brothers, but I always thought I could never measure to him...

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Prince wrote:
Chief Ogbunigwe wrote:
Cito wrote:
Chief Ogbunigwe wrote:
Cito wrote:
zoldsasok wrote:

Damunk somebody should have slapped that wandering spirit out of you and take you to some revival to lay hands and cast out "some demons" lol
This no be normal behavior for a 20 year old o lol


It actually is! At FUTO, I had a disagreement with my father and decided I am done with him. I had a source of income...abeg no ask lol. I stuck to my gun for over 2 semesters despite all attempts by my mother to get me to visit home. I was going from one Uni to another during breaks but never home. The only thing that brought me home was Yankee visa lottery that I didn't even apply for but won thanks to an uncle...

My point being, at 20, there are things most of us did that makes little to no sense now. Especially when you look back at them with mature vision now.


Mscheew...no wonder you dey tok anyhow for CE. To say na me be your Pops, I for come find you with koboko, come begin give you serious lashes in presence of those yeye girls wey you dey pose for. Foolish boy :taunt: :taunt: :taunt:

Nah my popsy no give a shiite about person wey de throw tantrum. :D
Are you jealous I got all dem girls instead of your old self? :taunt:


small pikins of nowadays :veryangry: :veryangry: :veryangry:

Anyway, my Pops was "fortunate" none of us "dared" throw tantrums. Thinking back as an adult now, there were two main reasons in my opinion.
1. He started relating to us "like adults" quite early, e.g. sit you down and seek your opinion on something. Looking back, it was just Old Man wayo, because even though we felt important at that time, na stuff that didn't matter in the grand scheme of things, or something he was going to do in his own way anyway.
2. To all of us, he was this "hero without flaws". Of course, this isn't accurate, but that is how we viewed him. This opinion was shaped by his going from village boy to Oxford graduate, he was very good-looking and brilliant, but very modest and compassionate, etc. Don't know about my brothers, but I always thought I could never measure to him...

From village boy to village boy how can you measure up? Just accept your lot in life


Me I be part of GLOBAL village :taunt: :taunt: :taunt:

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Can't really understand his parents motives, something suggest it's money, if Dele Ali was a local east London gangster, his parents will want nothing to do with him

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 22, 2017 11:27 am 
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marko wrote:
Can't really understand his parents motives, something suggest it's money, if Dele Ali was a local east London gangster, his parents will want nothing to do with him


Why do you think it's money? Should they just give up their son like a piece of tyre or chair? That is their son.

Regardless of what happens, family is family and we should not cease from trying to reconcile with family. People are looking at the money aspect but forget the family aspect.

Dele can still know his family without any monetary relationship. You just don't write off your parent like that, sorry.

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 22, 2017 3:31 pm 
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And Dad of the year waited till he was the golden boy of North London. Did deadbeat Dad call up the courthouse when he wearing bibs in Bedfordshire? #YouWasntWithMeShootingInTheGym

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