CHAMPIONS LEAGUE FINAL: JUVE vs MADRID: 1-4 (FT)

[ohsee]

Er, oga, are you watching the NBA finals? Is your proposal not done in the NBA? Yet there have been dominant teams and dynasties. Why have the same two teams met in the last three NBA finals? Why are the Warriors and the Cavaliers so dominant that they have literally swept aside all opposition in their inexorable march to the finals?

Your statement about coaches winning with fewer resources is not valid. Mourinho has won with few resources and lots of resources. He has also lost with lots of resources. The big winning teams all have resources. It is how you manage them that counts. You folks need to compare like with like: how did this or that manager manage the big teams? Not ask irrelevant hypothetical questions about how they would perform with a promoted or low level team.

Haha pa ohsee you clearly don't understand how the NBA works.

Firstly, the Warriors have only won ONE title not three in four years and twelve overall like Real Madrid. They didn't buy superstar players but built their team from the draft, meaning they groomed all their players from right out of college, at least their main ones not role players. The only main player that joined as a super star free agent was Durant and even so he got a lot of grief for it. The team Durant joined won an NBA record 73 games last season with players they drafted and groomed. For them to get Durant in free agency they needed to allow some of their starters go in order to create the room and cap space. In a couple of years they will have to break the team because some of these young players they drafted and groomed into stars will be due a much higher payday that the team won't be able up pay.

As for the Cavs, they drafted Kyrie (when they were the worst team) and LeBron (slain when they were also the worst team), they traded for Kevin Love with a #1 draft pick (that they got when they were again the worst team). So you give up something to get something. They didn't just go buy Love from another team. The team that traded Love to them got that young talented player in return to help offset the backward step of losing Love.

The Celtics with KG, Pierce and Ray Ray was also built via the draft. Pierce was drafted, and an aging KG and Allen were traded for with players and draft picks. Again, addition by subtraction.

The Spurs are the model franchise when it comes to building contenders. Duncan, Parker and Ginobili were all drafted and groomed to legendary status.

The only team in recent memory that was able to come close to what happens in Euro footy is the Miami Heat. And they got a lot of grief for it.

So yes the system is in place in the NBA that's why such instances isn't as prevalent. Real, Bayern, Barcelona, United have been dominant for decades. It's hard to do in US sports. Even my beloved New England Patriots as consistent as they've been as the best franchise in football hadn't won the Superbowl since 2004 up until two years ago. Ironically that's the last time there was a repeat champion. Something that's prevalent in footy.

Chief, you have missed the overall point. Your vaunted system does not prevent two teams from dominating. End of story. The dominance of the Cavs and the Warriors in the last three seasons has been total. This season, the two teams just wiped the floor with the entire opposition. There was no competition.