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NIGERIAN PLAYERS NEED TO STOP DIS FASTING DURING MATCH STUFF
Our women's team do it and lost woefully in the world cups..our youth squads do it and same happens...I don't see how it benefits U to put yourself at physical disadvantage when religion allows U and exception in this instance
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All 11 Libyan players were fasting
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Great point
paj wrote:Our women's team do it and lost woefully in the world cups..our youth squads do it and same happens...I don't see how it benefits U to put yourself at physical disadvantage when religion allows U and exception in this instance
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Fasting whilst playing football is absurd, the FTF in Tunisia outlawed fasting during games years ago.
The intake of food and drink is vital prior to training, vital after training, vital prior to the games, vital during games, vital after the games..it's a fact fasting can be made up after oes playing obligation are over.
Every football association should ban their players from fasting, if players refuse simply do not invite them to the NT..PERIOD!!!!
The intake of food and drink is vital prior to training, vital after training, vital prior to the games, vital during games, vital after the games..it's a fact fasting can be made up after oes playing obligation are over.
Every football association should ban their players from fasting, if players refuse simply do not invite them to the NT..PERIOD!!!!
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Were Ghana players fasting when dem chop 7 goals vs Germany?Abi God no dey Frankfurt?Rawlings wrote:Excuse
All 11 Libyan players were fasting
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Tunisian Gooner wrote:Fasting whilst playing football is absurd, the FTF in Tunisia outlawed fasting during games years ago.
The intake of food and drink is vital prior to training, vital after training, vital prior to the games, vital during games, vital after the games..it's a fact fasting can be made up after oes playing obligation are over.
Every football association should ban their players from fasting, if players refuse simply do not invite them to the NT..PERIOD!!!!
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Pa J,paj wrote:Our women's team do it and lost woefully in the world cups..our youth squads do it and same happens...I don't see how it benefits U to put yourself at physical disadvantage when religion allows U and exception in this instance
Football pales in comparison to religion and must take a back seat to it. It is about faith and football does not even come close.
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Were Iheanacho and Iwobi fasting yestetday too?
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It's not about faith rather like too many issues in Muslim society it's blatant stupidity.Enugu II wrote:Pa J,paj wrote:Our women's team do it and lost woefully in the world cups..our youth squads do it and same happens...I don't see how it benefits U to put yourself at physical disadvantage when religion allows U and exception in this instance
Football pales in comparison to religion and must take a back seat to it. It is about faith and football does not even come close.
its clearly stated that any Muslim can make up their fast at a later date, not a single legit doctor or trainer who would recommend anyone fasts prior to and during a intense athletic competition.
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Tunisian Gooner,Tunisian Gooner wrote:It's not about faith rather like too many issues in Muslim society it's blatant stupidity.Enugu II wrote:Pa J,paj wrote:Our women's team do it and lost woefully in the world cups..our youth squads do it and same happens...I don't see how it benefits U to put yourself at physical disadvantage when religion allows U and exception in this instance
Football pales in comparison to religion and must take a back seat to it. It is about faith and football does not even come close.
its clearly stated that any Muslim can make up their fast at a later date, not a single legit doctor or trainer who would recommend anyone fasts prior to and during a intense athletic competition.
It has nothing to do with stupidity. You may call it stupid but those who participate in it do not. Further, it is not just a Muslim issue. There are several Christians who fast during certain periods around Easter and it is taken seriously for those who are devout. Football pales on that issue. It does not override religion.
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KPAM! Good points and I agreeTunisian Gooner wrote:Fasting whilst playing football is absurd, the FTF in Tunisia outlawed fasting during games years ago.
The intake of food and drink is vital prior to training, vital after training, vital prior to the games, vital during games, vital after the games..it's a fact fasting can be made up after oes playing obligation are over.
Every football association should ban their players from fasting, if players refuse simply do not invite them to the NT..PERIOD!!!!
And the BIBLE says: The race is NOT for the swift, neither is the battle for the strong nor ... but time and chance makes them all.
Ecclesiastes 1:18: For in much wisdom is much grief and he that increases knowledge increases sorrow.
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How many players on the team were fasting? Or what exactly has this topic got to do with the result of yesterday?
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Bros I believe there is a stipulation on fasting in several religions that excuses those who have to endure hard labor..isn't it?We are not comparing football to religion but I think to address the interpretation of it as it applies hereEnugu II wrote:Pa J,paj wrote:Our women's team do it and lost woefully in the world cups..our youth squads do it and same happens...I don't see how it benefits U to put yourself at physical disadvantage when religion allows U and exception in this instance
Football pales in comparison to religion and must take a back seat to it. It is about faith and football does not even come close.
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It has because coach dropped Musa to the bench as he was fasstingoloye wrote: How many players on the team were fasting? Or what exactly has this topic got to do with the result of yesterday?
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niyi wrote:Were Iheanacho and Iwobi fasting yestetday too?
I think so. And Akpeyi + Echejile. Even Ndidi might have been fasting...that's not his usual way of playing.
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voice of reason.Enugu II wrote:Tunisian Gooner,Tunisian Gooner wrote:It's not about faith rather like too many issues in Muslim society it's blatant stupidity.Enugu II wrote:Pa J,paj wrote:Our women's team do it and lost woefully in the world cups..our youth squads do it and same happens...I don't see how it benefits U to put yourself at physical disadvantage when religion allows U and exception in this instance
Football pales in comparison to religion and must take a back seat to it. It is about faith and football does not even come close.
its clearly stated that any Muslim can make up their fast at a later date, not a single legit doctor or trainer who would recommend anyone fasts prior to and during a intense athletic competition.
It has nothing to do with stupidity. You may call it stupid but those who participate in it do not. Further, it is not just a Muslim issue. There are several Christians who fast during certain periods around Easter and it is taken seriously for those who are devout. Football pales on that issue. It does not override religion.
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paj wrote:It has because coach dropped Musa to the bench as he was fasstingoloye wrote: How many players on the team were fasting? Or what exactly has this topic got to do with the result of yesterday?
so Musa on the bench = CE loss? Was he not fasting when he put 2 solid goals vs Argentina?
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No it's exactly that S.T.U.P.I.D!!!!!!!!!!!Enugu II wrote:Tunisian Gooner,Tunisian Gooner wrote:It's not about faith rather like too many issues in Muslim society it's blatant stupidity.Enugu II wrote:Pa J,paj wrote:Our women's team do it and lost woefully in the world cups..our youth squads do it and same happens...I don't see how it benefits U to put yourself at physical disadvantage when religion allows U and exception in this instance
Football pales in comparison to religion and must take a back seat to it. It is about faith and football does not even come close.
its clearly stated that any Muslim can make up their fast at a later date, not a single legit doctor or trainer who would recommend anyone fasts prior to and during a intense athletic competition.
It has nothing to do with stupidity. You may call it stupid but those who participate in it do not. Further, it is not just a Muslim issue. There are several Christians who fast during certain periods around Easter and it is taken seriously for those who are devout. Football pales on that issue. It does not override religion.
1. As said earlier simply paramount players intake food and liquids, moreso that it's calculated to the most scientific degree to maximize performance. To fast whilst preparing and during any athletic competition let alone one of elite caliber is nothing short of stupidity and bordering on sabotage of your team and in case of the NT your country.
2. It's even more absurd when islamically it's clearly stated that one can fast at a later date.
3. Would anyone want their heart surgeon to fast for 18+ hours prior to surgery....????
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Why must every discussion be related to every other argument? There is more to our football than the South African loss.Chief Ogbunigwe wrote:paj wrote:It has because coach dropped Musa to the bench as he was fasstingoloye wrote: How many players on the team were fasting? Or what exactly has this topic got to do with the result of yesterday?
so Musa on the bench = CE loss? Was he not fasting when he put 2 solid goals vs Argentina?
Whether the impact on the SA match was negligible, is inconsequential.
The issue remains relevant.
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your response should be directed to PaJ. He brought Musa on the bench as his argument.Tbite wrote:Why must every discussion be related to every other argument? There is more to our football than the South African loss.Chief Ogbunigwe wrote:paj wrote:It has because coach dropped Musa to the bench as he was fasstingoloye wrote: How many players on the team were fasting? Or what exactly has this topic got to do with the result of yesterday?
so Musa on the bench = CE loss? Was he not fasting when he put 2 solid goals vs Argentina?
Whether the impact on the SA match was negligible, is inconsequential.
The issue remains relevant.
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Tunisian Gooner,
Using the word stupid for athletes that fast is quite outrageous. Perhaps, you are not quite aware about sport and fasting and how important religion is to some athletes. Fasting is a choice that they make and I would not condemn an athlete who makes the choice to fast. Please read below before condemning athletes that chose to fast. I have highlighted important issues that you should know.
Using the word stupid for athletes that fast is quite outrageous. Perhaps, you are not quite aware about sport and fasting and how important religion is to some athletes. Fasting is a choice that they make and I would not condemn an athlete who makes the choice to fast. Please read below before condemning athletes that chose to fast. I have highlighted important issues that you should know.
Ramadan and the Olympics: to fast or not to fast?
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Huma Qureshi
Sunday 22 July 2012 15.00 EDT First published on Sunday 22 July 2012 15.00 EDT
Abdul Buhari has been fasting for Ramadan since the age of 12, but this year he will be missing the holy month. He has good reason for it: Buhari, 30, is one of the UK's top discus throwers and will be representing Team GB in the men's discus event at London 2012. He has decided not to risk his Olympic performance by being without food or water.
"It was a really difficult decision because I've fasted all my life for Ramadan – it's incredibly important to me. But if I fast, it will be impossible to stay in peak condition and perform at my highest level in the Games," he says. "I believe God is forgiving, and I'll make up for every single day I've missed." He plans to fast later on in the year.
This is the second time Buhari has missed Ramadan; last year, when it coincided with the athletic world championships in Korea, was the first. After much discussion with his coach, wife and several imams, he concluded that fasting and competing in top-level athletics just weren't compatible. "I went through it with my trainer, looking at whether I could get enough calories for the nutrition and energy I needed, but in the end we decided it would be too risky."
In Korea, Buhari shared a flat with fellow Team GB athlete and Muslim Mo Farah for the championships. "We both weren't fasting and we found that really hard. No Muslim wants to miss Ramadan."
All four of Team GB's Muslim athletes (Buhari, Farah, rower Moe Sbihi and fencer Husayn Rosowsky) have decided not to fast during Ramadan this year, so as not to jeopardise their Olympic performance. While Farah and Rosowsky will also make up for it later in the year, Sbihi has instead decided to provide 60 meals a day for the poor for every day of fasting he misses. He came up with the charitable solution after consulting with Muslim scholars in Morocco, where his father is from.
More than 3,000 Muslim athletes are expected to participate in London 2012, although the games organisers say it's impossible to know how many are fasting. Still, they are prepared: fasting athletes can order "breaking-fast packs", filled with dates, water and energy bars, and the canteen will be open 24 hours so anyone fasting can eat sehri, the pre-fast meal consumed just before sunrise, in the early hours.
But is it really advisable for athletes to compete or train while fasting? In 2009, the International Olympic Committee (IOC)'s nutrition working group began investigating the impact of fasting on sports performance. A team of scientists, led by Ron Maughan, professor of sport and exercise nutrition at Loughborough University, analysed more than 400 articles on Ramadan and sports, and published its findings in the British Journal of Sports Medicine last month. The report concluded: "Fasting of short duration or intermittent nature has little or no effect on the health or performance of most athletes … Ramadan observance has only limited adverse consequences for either training or competitive performance."
"Everyone tends to assume that performance is going to be affected by Ramadan, but there's nothing unusual about playing sports in Ramadan," says Maughan. "Most people who fast for Ramadan, whether they are athletes or not, have been fasting for years. They know how to cope and how far their bodies can go. So it's perfectly safe."
Even though they have opted out of this summer's fasting, Buhari, Sbihi and Rosowsky have all trained during Ramadan in the winter months without problems. As Rosowsky puts it: "You just focus, man up and get on with it."
Buhari weighs 20 stone. He eats six meals and drinks six litres of water on a normal day. On training days during Ramadan he would wake up extra early for sehri, eat a large variety of slow-releasing carbohydrates from porridge and seeded bread to sweet potatoes, brown rice and pasta, along with plenty of water and electrolytes to prevent cramping. At the end of the fast, he'd repeat the process. "Sure, sometimes I would feel thirsty, but ultimately my faith was my motivation. I could draw on that to get me through," he says.
Being able to train during Ramadan is one thing for a competitive athlete and another for your average person, warns Drew Price, a performance nutritionist who works with athletes and Premiership footballers who observe the Ramadan fast. "Ramadan isn't as difficult as people think for athletes, but they have a whole support team to monitor them while fasting. The average person won't have that, so if they want to exercise and fast, they should listen to their bodies. Generally, the fitter you are, the easier it is. Ramadan is only a few weeks out of the year, so you can afford to take it easy in terms of the intensity and volume of exercise you do for one month if you train well the rest of the year."
Personal trainer Imran Ilahi owns a health club in St John's Wood, north London, and last year published Fit4Ramadan, an online fitness manual about how to stay in shape while fasting. He works out during Ramadan, preferring to train before sehri, rather than during fasting hours.
"The key is to focus on maintaining your fitness during Ramadan, rather than improving it or making it worse," he says. "You can still eExercise before you start the fast, or after you've broken it. Just do slightly less than you normally would and you'll find it gives you more energy."
Asif Ahmad, a 26-year-old from London who goes to the gym three times a week during Ramadan, agrees. "It's a strange concept to comprehend, but playing sports really does mean that adrenaline overshadows most of your natural reactions such as thirst or fatigue," he says "It's all about discipline, after all."
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[/video]Enugu II wrote:Pa J,paj wrote:Our women's team do it and lost woefully in the world cups..our youth squads do it and same happens...I don't see how it benefits U to put yourself at physical disadvantage when religion allows U and exception in this instance
Football pales in comparison to religion and must take a back seat to it. It is about faith and football does not even come close.
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Is there any conclusive data that shows fasting adversely affects results? At the very least that would be needed to begin this conversation. Understand that in this case it's football where anything can happen.paj wrote:Our women's team do it and lost woefully in the world cups..our youth squads do it and same happens...I don't see how it benefits U to put yourself at physical disadvantage when religion allows U and exception in this instance
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