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Naijans in Yankee: US vs Mexico at the Azteca
For those for whom yankee has become second (or first) home, how wud you compare
your adoptive team (USA) and the Eagles... Players, coaching etc...
btw, anyone see the first goal? you know that's going to be in a marvel movie trailer soon
your adoptive team (USA) and the Eagles... Players, coaching etc...
btw, anyone see the first goal? you know that's going to be in a marvel movie trailer soon
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Re: Naijans in Yankee: US vs Mexico at the Azteca
Organization: US has a great edge over Nigeria. No doubt about that.
Coaching: Not so sure.
Players: Nigeria edges the US on aggregate.
Summary: The USA have never lost to Nigeria at the senior level.
US 3-2 Nigeria 1995 US Cup
US 2-1 Nigeria 2014 friendly
Coaching: Not so sure.
Players: Nigeria edges the US on aggregate.
Summary: The USA have never lost to Nigeria at the senior level.
US 3-2 Nigeria 1995 US Cup
US 2-1 Nigeria 2014 friendly
Wha choo looking at?!
WHO IS WATCHING MEXICO VS USA:
Any one watching Mexico Vs USA? That goal by the Mexican Number was World Class. Left footed, driven from out side 18.
After watching other nations play, and looking at our Nigerian Team who couldn't kick their ways out of a paper bag; I begin to wonder if we have any business vying for the World Cup qualifier.
We have fallen way back it is not even funny.
After watching other nations play, and looking at our Nigerian Team who couldn't kick their ways out of a paper bag; I begin to wonder if we have any business vying for the World Cup qualifier.
We have fallen way back it is not even funny.
Re: Naijans in Yankee: US vs Mexico at the Azteca
At this moment, USA have left Nigeria in the dust. Until we build our Nigerian League to be of World Standard, Nigeria may not measure up, in the world stage.
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One loss and eveyone goes crazy.
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Synopsis wrote:One loss and eveyone goes crazy.
Stole my words I was aBout to add ....
The wars fought in the world are only a reflection of the wars fought within people....
Re: WHO IS WATCHING MEXICO VS USA:
This is not only about one loss. I take a look at the match yesterday, I compare it to the ones before; and compare them to the one in the past, and quality of players performance to the performances of other countries: Germany, Italy, Spain, Mexico, Croatia, Turkey, even US now: I am dismayed at our standard as of now.
Look at this scenario: Before 1990, who ever heard of USA and Soccer? I Had been in US before then and until 1994, one will never see any Soccer event in any US Media outlet. None! But after the 1994 world cup in US, and Atlanta Olympic games after that, US made a decision to develop their local league, MLS. Now even some of the leagues in other parts of the world are looking behind their shoulders.
I bet in the next Five to Ten Years, MLS will one of the world's best; as soon as the players' pays become more attractive. The organization itself is tops.
How many Nigerian Referees are now being called up for the FIFA match tournament? Doesn't that tell us something. Until we make up our minds to change, we will be sliding back and no one to blame.
Look at this scenario: Before 1990, who ever heard of USA and Soccer? I Had been in US before then and until 1994, one will never see any Soccer event in any US Media outlet. None! But after the 1994 world cup in US, and Atlanta Olympic games after that, US made a decision to develop their local league, MLS. Now even some of the leagues in other parts of the world are looking behind their shoulders.
I bet in the next Five to Ten Years, MLS will one of the world's best; as soon as the players' pays become more attractive. The organization itself is tops.
How many Nigerian Referees are now being called up for the FIFA match tournament? Doesn't that tell us something. Until we make up our minds to change, we will be sliding back and no one to blame.
Re: WHO IS WATCHING MEXICO VS USA:
Love watching Hector Herrera...
Form is temporary; Class is Permanent!
Liverpool, European Champions 2005.
We watched this very boring video, 500 times, of Sacchi doing defensive drills, using sticks and without the ball, with Maldini, Baresi and Albertini. We used to think before then that if the other players are better, you have to lose. After that we learned anything is possible – you can beat better teams by using tactics." Jurgen Klopp
Liverpool, European Champions 2005.
We watched this very boring video, 500 times, of Sacchi doing defensive drills, using sticks and without the ball, with Maldini, Baresi and Albertini. We used to think before then that if the other players are better, you have to lose. After that we learned anything is possible – you can beat better teams by using tactics." Jurgen Klopp
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...you dey waste your time talking. The thieves and their enablers on CE will either descend on you or ignore it all. They like the status quo. chop chop, steal steal, walk around with fraud in their minds at all times.Igugu wrote:This is not only about one loss. I take a look at the match yesterday, I compare it to the ones before; and compare them to the one in the past, and quality of players performance to the performances of other countries: Germany, Italy, Spain, Mexico, Croatia, Turkey, even US now: I am dismayed at our standard as of now.
Look at this scenario: Before 1990, who ever heard of USA and Soccer? I Had been in US before then and until 1994, one will never see any Soccer event in any US Media outlet. None! But after the 1994 world cup in US, and Atlanta Olympic games after that, US made a decision to develop their local league, MLS. Now even some of the leagues in other parts of the world are looking behind their shoulders.
I bet in the next Five to Ten Years, MLS will one of the world's best; as soon as the players' pays become more attractive. The organization itself is tops.
How many Nigerian Referees are now being called up for the FIFA match tournament? Doesn't that tell us something. Until we make up our minds to change, we will be sliding back and no one to blame.
Re: WHO IS WATCHING MEXICO VS USA:
...if we perform against SA like that yesterday, what will happen vs a tougher Cameroon coming up?Synopsis wrote:One loss and eveyone goes crazy.
Re: WHO IS WATCHING MEXICO VS USA:
Watching USA set up the 5-4-1 defensively is really a beauty and in my opinion was key in today's game. IMHO, this helps solve lots of defensive issues and allows a team using it to morph into a 3-2-4-1 going forward. USA did real well.
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He's caught my eye for a while. A consistent performer though for some reason, he always looks to me like he's struggling for breath and could stop any minute.txj wrote:Love watching Hector Herrera...
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Re: WHO IS WATCHING MEXICO VS USA:
Actually it was nominally a 3-4-3, with Beasley and Yeldin as the wing backs. It ended as a 5-4-1 in the closing stages as Mexico pushed forward.Enugu II wrote:Watching USA set up the 5-4-1 defensively is really a beauty and in my opinion was key in today's game. IMHO, this helps solve lots of defensive issues and allows a team using it to morph into a 3-2-4-1 going forward. USA did real well.
Quite impressed by their defensive organization. But was left wondering how they might have coped if Marquez, Guardado and Moreno had been fit..
Form is temporary; Class is Permanent!
Liverpool, European Champions 2005.
We watched this very boring video, 500 times, of Sacchi doing defensive drills, using sticks and without the ball, with Maldini, Baresi and Albertini. We used to think before then that if the other players are better, you have to lose. After that we learned anything is possible – you can beat better teams by using tactics." Jurgen Klopp
Liverpool, European Champions 2005.
We watched this very boring video, 500 times, of Sacchi doing defensive drills, using sticks and without the ball, with Maldini, Baresi and Albertini. We used to think before then that if the other players are better, you have to lose. After that we learned anything is possible – you can beat better teams by using tactics." Jurgen Klopp
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Txj,txj wrote:Actually it was nominally a 3-4-3, with Beasley and Yeldin as the wing backs. It ended as a 5-4-1 in the closing stages as Mexico pushed forward.Enugu II wrote:Watching USA set up the 5-4-1 defensively is really a beauty and in my opinion was key in today's game. IMHO, this helps solve lots of defensive issues and allows a team using it to morph into a 3-2-4-1 going forward. USA did real well.
Quite impressed by their defensive organization. But was left wondering how they might have coped if Marquez, Guardado and Moreno had been fit..
It began as a 3-4-3 but switched much earlier to a 5-4-1 right after Bradley's goal which was before mid-first half. In essence, they were largely in that set for much of the game. I believe that they would cope even against Marquez and others but it isn't for sure.
I liked the idea and I had previously mentioned it in my blog because not only does it make our defense tighter it allows the wide backs to join the midfield going forward. In my head I think about the base five with Shehu-Omeruo-Ekong-Balogun-Etebo. This way, Shehu and Etebo can become advanced with possession.
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Re: Naijans in Yankee: US vs Mexico at the Azteca
In the game you mentioned which I highlighted, we (Nigeria) didn't go with our full squad. I hope you remember, but yeah, we lost.Scipio Africanus wrote:Organization: US has a great edge over Nigeria. No doubt about that.
Coaching: Not so sure.
Players: Nigeria edges the US on aggregate.
Summary: The USA have never lost to Nigeria at the senior level.
US 3-2 Nigeria 1995 US Cup
US 2-1 Nigeria 2014 friendly
And the BIBLE says: The race is NOT for the swift, neither is the battle for the strong nor ... but time and chance makes them all.
Ecclesiastes 1:18: For in much wisdom is much grief and he that increases knowledge increases sorrow.
Ecclesiastes 1:18: For in much wisdom is much grief and he that increases knowledge increases sorrow.
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KPAM! In a way it is good we lost as already said by some people. This loss will awaken and get us focused in the next assignment (Cameroon's game).Synopsis wrote:One loss and eveyone goes crazy.
And the BIBLE says: The race is NOT for the swift, neither is the battle for the strong nor ... but time and chance makes them all.
Ecclesiastes 1:18: For in much wisdom is much grief and he that increases knowledge increases sorrow.
Ecclesiastes 1:18: For in much wisdom is much grief and he that increases knowledge increases sorrow.
Re: WHO IS WATCHING MEXICO VS USA:
The main thing I thought was that Mexico lacked a little bit in terms of movement. Osorio tends to muddle his lines too often. Little by way of counter movement by Vela and Lozano, who either stayed wide or cut in, irrespective of Chicha's movement. They ended up playing most of the game on the edges of the US low block...Enugu II wrote:Txj,txj wrote:Actually it was nominally a 3-4-3, with Beasley and Yeldin as the wing backs. It ended as a 5-4-1 in the closing stages as Mexico pushed forward.Enugu II wrote:Watching USA set up the 5-4-1 defensively is really a beauty and in my opinion was key in today's game. IMHO, this helps solve lots of defensive issues and allows a team using it to morph into a 3-2-4-1 going forward. USA did real well.
Quite impressed by their defensive organization. But was left wondering how they might have coped if Marquez, Guardado and Moreno had been fit..
It began as a 3-4-3 but switched much earlier to a 5-4-1 right after Bradley's goal which was before mid-first half. In essence, they were largely in that set for much of the game. I believe that they would cope even against Marquez and others but it isn't for sure.
I liked the idea and I had previously mentioned it in my blog because not only does it make our defense tighter it allows the wide backs to join the midfield going forward. In my head I think about the base five with Shehu-Omeruo-Ekong-Balogun-Etebo. This way, Shehu and Etebo can become advanced with possession.
As for Nigeria. not convinced by the likes of Shehu and Omeruo. Will reserve judgement on Awazie, but he did lack awareness of opposition movement and his positioning...
Without breakout speed in lateral defence, a 5-4-1 for Nigeria is pointless...
Form is temporary; Class is Permanent!
Liverpool, European Champions 2005.
We watched this very boring video, 500 times, of Sacchi doing defensive drills, using sticks and without the ball, with Maldini, Baresi and Albertini. We used to think before then that if the other players are better, you have to lose. After that we learned anything is possible – you can beat better teams by using tactics." Jurgen Klopp
Liverpool, European Champions 2005.
We watched this very boring video, 500 times, of Sacchi doing defensive drills, using sticks and without the ball, with Maldini, Baresi and Albertini. We used to think before then that if the other players are better, you have to lose. After that we learned anything is possible – you can beat better teams by using tactics." Jurgen Klopp
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On Nigeria, I would think that Etebo has breakout speed but you are correct on Shehu on the right. I do not think that he has that. My thinking though is that a 5-4-1 defensive turning into an offensive 3-2-4-1 could still work even without the speed as it provides more help defensively while narrowing passing angles for the opposition. However, I do agree that breakout speed does improve it particularly switching to a more attacking formation with the ball on a counter.txj wrote:The main thing I thought was that Mexico lacked a little bit in terms of movement. Osorio tends to muddle his lines too often. Little by way of counter movement by Vela and Lozano, who either stayed wide or cut in, irrespective of Chicha's movement. They ended up playing most of the game on the edges of the US low block...Enugu II wrote:Txj,txj wrote:Actually it was nominally a 3-4-3, with Beasley and Yeldin as the wing backs. It ended as a 5-4-1 in the closing stages as Mexico pushed forward.Enugu II wrote:Watching USA set up the 5-4-1 defensively is really a beauty and in my opinion was key in today's game. IMHO, this helps solve lots of defensive issues and allows a team using it to morph into a 3-2-4-1 going forward. USA did real well.
Quite impressed by their defensive organization. But was left wondering how they might have coped if Marquez, Guardado and Moreno had been fit..
It began as a 3-4-3 but switched much earlier to a 5-4-1 right after Bradley's goal which was before mid-first half. In essence, they were largely in that set for much of the game. I believe that they would cope even against Marquez and others but it isn't for sure.
I liked the idea and I had previously mentioned it in my blog because not only does it make our defense tighter it allows the wide backs to join the midfield going forward. In my head I think about the base five with Shehu-Omeruo-Ekong-Balogun-Etebo. This way, Shehu and Etebo can become advanced with possession.
As for Nigeria. not convinced by the likes of Shehu and Omeruo. Will reserve judgement on Awazie, but he did lack awareness of opposition movement and his positioning...
Without breakout speed in lateral defence, a 5-4-1 for Nigeria is pointless...
As for Omeruo, I really do not think he is international class from day 1. But who else do we have? Aweziem, IMHO, is a bit better (see my blog) but the fact is that if Rohr is voicing about experience it is likely that Awaziem may not get another opportunity.
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Re: WHO IS WATCHING MEXICO VS USA:
This game felt like a World Cup.
USA still has a long way to go though.
USA still has a long way to go though.
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What a cracker, both teams much better than the SE....the goal by Bradley was worldclass
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Re: WHO IS WATCHING MEXICO VS USA:
Mindset. If you inject half the pride Ghanaian players have into Nigeria we'd be difficult to beat. For a country that missed the last 2 Nations Cup, I don't think they understood the importance of their first game.
The coach or/and the players messed up. But they have time and enough games to recover
The coach or/and the players messed up. But they have time and enough games to recover
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I will honestly say that Mexico is the best national team outside of Europe and South America.