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PostPosted: Tue Jun 13, 2017 6:41 pm 
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The return leg is a must win. It is a national disgrace. It is weird losing to South Africa.

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 13, 2017 7:13 pm 
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When is the return leg sef?

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 13, 2017 7:19 pm 
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This loss really pain wuna. :) If Mikel na dey saviour, then SE should really kiss the WC good bye.


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PostPosted: Tue Jun 13, 2017 7:24 pm 
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oloye wrote:
When is the return leg sef?

a year from now, after the worldcup in Russia

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 13, 2017 8:32 pm 
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The guy definitely needs to be queried to explain why he blatantly refused to feature our most prolific scorer in Europe instead played bench warming ,fringe and inconsequential players in their various clubs. If the guy is incapable of using our best players he should resign . Nobody goes to war without his best armaments. An excuse you don't how to use them is absolutely unacceptable.NFF has provided him all the resources to be successful but he failed because of his incompetence,fecklessness and ineptness.


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PostPosted: Tue Jun 13, 2017 8:49 pm 
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Whatever happened to Onyekuru and Bazee? heck I wish he started Moruf yusuf at LB over Echejilie who was for lack of a better word atrocious on the day, even the formation Rohr used was questionable...who in this right mind wouldn't have seen that Ihenacho was utterly helpess as a lone striker? yet it took Rohr up till the 70thmin to make adjustments...


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PostPosted: Tue Jun 13, 2017 8:57 pm 
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See how France is using Sidibe , Dembele and Mbappe . Somebody foolishly telling me Onyekuru , Nwakali and Imoh are inexperienced. The fool needs to be fired because of incompetence and ineptness before it is too late. From all indications the inane lacks what it takes to coach a team in the class of SE. If he can't harness the potentials of best players he needs to leave . We can tolerate such an insipid performance we saw last Saturday. It is absolutely unacceptable and uncalled for.


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why should Rohr be questioned? Those who employed him should be the ones answering queries.

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bully12 wrote:
The guy definitely needs to be queried to explain why he blatantly refused to feature our most prolific scorer in Europe instead played bench warming ,fringe and inconsequential players in their various clubs. If the guy is incapable of using our best players he should resign . Nobody goes to war without his best armaments. An excuse you don't how to use them is absolutely unacceptable.NFF has provided him all the resources to be successful but he failed because of his incompetence,fecklessness and ineptness.

:clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: As days go by, I am finding it hard to shake-off the loss. What was the coach thinking? Did he think the "bench warmers " in their clubs are going to earn us victory?

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 14, 2017 2:59 am 
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Chief Ogbunigwe wrote:
why should Rohr be questioned? Those who employed him should be the ones answering queries.

The coach has done well until now and while I thank him for the past results, it will be good to know what his reasons were for doing what he did. Perhaps, his players simply collapsed and disappointed him in general.

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The guy is doing his job...collecting $ while sabatoging our chances...isn't this what many of you guys wanted

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Enough already................Get over it and move on to the next game.

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http://scorenigeria.com.ng/2017/06/13/rohr-accepts-nff-technical-committee-to-vet-his-eagles-call-ups/
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Gernot Rohr has accepted for the NFF technical committee to vet his call-ups to the Super Eagles henceforth as was the tradition with previous national team coaches.

SCORENigeria gathered this was one of the decisions taken when Rohr faced the committee in Abuja today.

“Some of the undeserving players lined up against South Africa at the weekend would not have scaled the committee had this arrangement being in place,” a top official told SCORENigeria

“Can you imagine a player from a ‘B’ team in Europe starting an official game for Nigeria in this day and age?”

It was further gathered that sports minister Solomon Dalung was shocked when he was told by officials that the technical committee have failed to sit ever since Rohr was appointed in July 2016.

Dalung has now ordered that all those saddled with responsibilities be allowed to discharge their duties for efficiency

Rohr told the committee the fact that the team did not train with the official match balls affected the team on Saturday in Uyo.

He also said he was missing skipper Mikel Obi, defender Leon Balogun, goalkeeper Carl Ikeme and Victor Moses, but he hopes they will all return in time for the World Cup qualifier against Cameroon.

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bully12 wrote:
The guy definitely needs to be queried to explain why he blatantly refused to feature our most prolific scorer in Europe instead played bench warming ,fringe and inconsequential players in their various clubs. If the guy is incapable of using our best players he should resign . Nobody goes to war without his best armaments. An excuse you don't how to use them is absolutely unacceptable.NFF has provided him all the resources to be successful but he failed because of his incompetence,fecklessness and ineptness.

Una don pay am him salary? If uno no pay am, SA go pay am.


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PostPosted: Wed Jun 14, 2017 1:34 pm 
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Looking at the game, it seems we were outcoached. If it had been a Nigerian coach, we will be inundated with how South Africa out coached us? What do you guys think?


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Striker wrote:
Looking at the game, it seems we were outcoached. If it had been a Nigerian coach, we will be inundated with how South Africa out coached us? What do you guys think?


Local based vs Foreign based debate on CE.

My stance as always been we must get the best coach available, don't care if it is local based or foreign based. But many Nigerians think everything foreign is better. They don't value the local league. They don't value the local coaches. Local coaches don't get paid and are treated like thrash. But the oyinbo man salary is guaranteed and treated well.

Rohr is an average coach, should have never been appointed. But what is done is done. We must support the team and hope for the best.

The sad reality is we will not learn anything from this experience.

Nigeria must develop the local league and appreciate local coaches. No country has won the World cup without a strong domestic league.

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 14, 2017 1:55 pm 
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bully12 wrote:
The guy definitely needs to be queried to explain why he blatantly refused to feature our most prolific scorer in Europe instead played bench warming ,fringe and inconsequential players in their various clubs. If the guy is incapable of using our best players he should resign . Nobody goes to war without his best armaments. An excuse you don't how to use them is absolutely unacceptable.NFF has provided him all the resources to be successful but he failed because of his incompetence,fecklessness and ineptness.


I suggest the query should be on a double spaced, A4 paper, of 8 x 11.5 inches...

Font should be Times Roman.

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ohenhen1 wrote:
Striker wrote:
Looking at the game, it seems we were outcoached. If it had been a Nigerian coach, we will be inundated with how South Africa out coached us? What do you guys think?


Local based vs Foreign based debate on CE.

My stance as always been we must get the best coach available, don't care if it is local based or foreign based. But many Nigerians think everything foreign is better. They don't value the local league. They don't value the local coaches. Local coaches don't get paid and are treated like thrash. But the oyinbo man salary is guaranteed and treated well.

Rohr is an average coach, should have never been appointed. But what is done is done. We must support the team and hope for the best.

The sad reality is we will not learn anything from this experience.

Nigeria must develop the local league and appreciate local coaches. No country has won the World cup without a strong domestic league.


Ohenhen1,

I rarely have commented on this issue of having a strong domestic league. Let me comment now. I believe that the highlighted is a dangerous interpretation of statistics. First, while it is true that no country has won the WC without a strong domestic league, it is important to examine what difference exists between those countries and Nigeria. All the countries who have a strong local domestic league and have won the world cup also have their best talents at home playing in the local leagues. In Nigeria's case, I do not know that there is anyone who will argue against the conclusion that Nigeria's top players mostly play abroad. Thus, developing your local league without having your top players playing in it means that you do not satisfy the statistical condition for winning the WC. What I am getting at is the following requirement for winning the WC: (1) a strong domestic league, (2) Having your top players playing in that league, (3) Perhaps other yet to mentioned conditions. In essence, the recipe is not just #1 but requires multiple other factors.

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Enugu II wrote:
ohenhen1 wrote:
Striker wrote:
Looking at the game, it seems we were outcoached. If it had been a Nigerian coach, we will be inundated with how South Africa out coached us? What do you guys think?


Local based vs Foreign based debate on CE.

My stance as always been we must get the best coach available, don't care if it is local based or foreign based. But many Nigerians think everything foreign is better. They don't value the local league. They don't value the local coaches. Local coaches don't get paid and are treated like thrash. But the oyinbo man salary is guaranteed and treated well.

Rohr is an average coach, should have never been appointed. But what is done is done. We must support the team and hope for the best.

The sad reality is we will not learn anything from this experience.

Nigeria must develop the local league and appreciate local coaches. No country has won the World cup without a strong domestic league.


Ohenhen1,

I rarely have commented on this issue of having a strong domestic league. Let me comment now. I believe that the highlighted is a dangerous interpretation of statistics. First, while it is true that no country has won the WC without a strong domestic league, it is important to examine what difference exists between those countries and Nigeria. All the countries who have a strong local domestic league and have won the world cup also have their best talents at home playing in the local leagues. In Nigeria's case, I do not know that there is anyone who will argue against the conclusion that Nigeria's top players mostly play abroad. Thus, developing your local league without having your top players playing in it means that you do not satisfy the statistical condition for winning the WC. What I am getting at is the following requirement for winning the WC: (1) a strong domestic league, (2) Having your top players playing in that league, (3) Perhaps other yet to mentioned conditions. In essence, the recipe is not just #1 but requires multiple other factors.


Why don't they want to stay home and play in Nigeria?

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Enugu II wrote:
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Rohr accepts NFF technical committee to vet his Eagles call-ups
http://scorenigeria.com.ng/2017/06/13/rohr-accepts-nff-technical-committee-to-vet-his-eagles-call-ups/
By admin - June 13, 2017120 0

Gernot Rohr has accepted for the NFF technical committee to vet his call-ups to the Super Eagles henceforth as was the tradition with previous national team coaches.

SCORENigeria gathered this was one of the decisions taken when Rohr faced the committee in Abuja today.

“Some of the undeserving players lined up against South Africa at the weekend would not have scaled the committee had this arrangement being in place,” a top official told SCORENigeria

“Can you imagine a player from a ‘B’ team in Europe starting an official game for Nigeria in this day and age?”

It was further gathered that sports minister Solomon Dalung was shocked when he was told by officials that the technical committee have failed to sit ever since Rohr was appointed in July 2016.

Dalung has now ordered that all those saddled with responsibilities be allowed to discharge their duties for efficiency

Rohr told the committee the fact that the team did not train with the official match balls affected the team on Saturday in Uyo.

He also said he was missing skipper Mikel Obi, defender Leon Balogun, goalkeeper Carl Ikeme and Victor Moses, but he hopes they will all return in time for the World Cup qualifier against Cameroon.

yes he missed 4 starters, but playing the likes of Awazie, Shehu, Simon Moses , adn that pathetic Akpeyi should never happen , these players aren't good enough for the SE at this moment, they only dominate in youth football.. it was shocking watching all the work done vs the likes of Algeria and ZAmbia go down the drain..it is also very painful to watch the SE get humiliated by SA like that in Nigeria..if the game was away i would accept it, but you don't start dropping points at home and then expect to qualify ..for goodness sake we've missed 3 AFCONS in 5 years. 2012, 2015, 2017... shocking ..are you telling me we can't be among the top 16 on the continent?

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wale1974 wrote:
Enough already................Get over it and move on to the next game.

dude get the heck out of here

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Ohenhen1 and Enugu II, your points are well stated and are facts. Could it be that NFF are not able to put together a marketing outfit that can go out and solicit sponsorship/raising fund to help defray salaries for better players as an incentive to come back home and play. The big time oil magnets, networks (GLO, MTN etc) and others can be persuaded to help but the question is can the NFF be reliable to account for the generated funds.


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I really like the idea of strengthening our domestic league. In this way we can have a sizeable number of SE players based locally, to develop team cohesion, and then we can add a few foreign-based. I am also in favor of building up our local coaches or as Pinnick will say "building capacity". We should really stop employing foreign coaches . Nigeria should lead the way in encouraging local African coaches.


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