bouncino wrote:Waffiman wrote:tolahs wrote:Major props to Manc on winning the EPL - they've done it @ a counter disproving the maxim that great footballing teams cannot win the league. The collective improvement by that team from last season's been astounding. Players like Sané(22), Sterling(23)
& KDB(26) move into that elite level of footballer now - it's truly frightening thinking of what they could accomplish over the next few seasons.
Liverpool have a winnable draw in the CL & Klopp should be looking to reunite that club with the big trophy.
As for my club - words truly fail me just now.
What maxim is that? All of Wenger's title winning teams were great footballing teams. Did you not watch them play?
Waffi,
This is 2018 not 2004. My son (you have met him) will be 14 this year. He did not see them play. Leave history abeg. I get am before no be property.
Wenger was great, adventurous and innovative when he was young. He is stale now and fixated in his ways. Foootball has moved beyond him. He loves his players like a Grand father does. Grand fathers don't knock their grand children into shape, they even interfere when the Fathers want to discipline them.
How he believes in players like Chambers beats me. And he says he can't find better quality players.
To the Arsenal teams you were referring to, they had the quickest transition from defense to attack. I think it was 5 seconds. These ones will pass sideways and backwards and finally gift the opponents the ball.
The team or club needs a complete overhaul and mindset change.
My dear brother,
As you opined so well and you are right to a point. Wenger introduced the quick counter attacking game with super fast, athletic and intelligent players to this league. But I disagree when you say he is past it. You forget how we destroyed Chelsea in the Cup final last May. You don't achieve such if you are past it. Playing the type of football you alluded to is in his DNA, he just needs the right player's, already with recent acquisitions, there is a clear indication of a change in style of play but it takes time.
I will start with what I say in my Arsenal WhatsApp groups. I am not against change, but what I disagree with is the idea that Wenger and Wenger only is the problem. He is not. I cannot wait to see the miracle this next genius Manager will do with the funds available to Wenger.
As you know only too well, I am a football optimist. I always hope for the best especially at season beginning. By this I mean we win silverware. We are in the semi-finals of a cup competition that could radically alter our immediate future in terms of financial ability to compete. So it is not all doom and gloom. If we somehow manage to win the Europa League (EL), I hope we can at lest match Liverpool who have now become the 4th biggest spenders in terms of the crucial wages figure and to a lesser extent - transfers.
EL has meant we play the type of team we played yesterday. The Europa league and The EPL don't go well, there comes a point you have to make a decision. ManU, with a far better squad, finished 6th. Liverpool with arguably a better squad finished I think 6th. They both got to the finals. We are facing the same problem they did in the last 2 seasons.
You talk about change, it is happening right in front of you. we have also made the crazy decision to revolutionise the playing squad. We have got rid of 13 players in two windows, 9 of whom played key roles in our last two seasons. Of these 9 players, 3 were our top scorers from last season. When you make changes like this, results go down, it is clear something has happened to force such a radical change at the club. We have also dumped the system that we used in recruiting most of our players in the last 4 seasons, in its place we have a new scouting and recruitment team. We now hear, These are Wenger's demand from the owner.
At the heart of our struggles, lay issues way bigger higher than Wenger despite this ridiculous idea that Wenger was this all conquering Lord of the manor. He is not, he is just an employee that has done so much for the club. You remember our disastrous summer window. Was that all Wenger's fault? I don't want to go through all of that again. But at the heart of it all was finance. I have accepted our position in the financial pecking order, it is this drive to sign players at a cheaper price that drove us to the American moneyball recruitment system with StatsDNA. Now We are looking to get rid of most of, if not all of those players.
At the Emirates, the vast majority still love Wenger, there has been 4 organised protests this season at the Emirates, the best turn out was about 50 protesters. The worst had 4 protesters. Despite this, many now see Wenger as a major problem. It is said openly by groups organising for change he is not the target but he stands in the way of the only people that can bring real change. Many see Wenger leaving and we will just continue changing Managers like Liverpool until they got proper Owners.
They want Wenger to go so they can focus on the people he has been proctecting - the Owner and his son. Why? They see the Owner as the one bleeding the club and unlike the Liverpool owners who have put their money into the club, ours have only taken money out. This must stop and groups are organising against them.
These groups want to start chanting those horrible nasty songs like the Newcastle fans chant about their Owner, that he cannot go anywhere near the stadium. These fans want to ensure the owner, his family and friends cannot come anywhere near the stadium because of dog's abuse and harassment, they are prepared to let on them. Then and only then will the right change take place. They see Wenger meeting their financial bottom line as the major problem. This will not change until he goes.
I will not be joining any groups that sing or chant vileness or nastiness at anyone. I am convinced as a club, we have already made the right changes so far, we just need one more transfer window like the last January window, and we will be at least top 4 again. But I am aware that those who see things like me are not necessarily in the majority anymore at the Emirates. At best it is 50/50.
.......................Danfo driver don run away with his danfo bus 
