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@Benteke,
Not surprised at all. Only few top clubs in the market for a top striker. Man U got Lukaku, Arsenal with Lacazette. PSG not looking.. CFC only club actually looking for a striker & clearly PEA is not top 3 options for CFC. With top targets such as Morata, Lukaku, & Belotti - CFC clearly looking for younger players

AC milan is the other possible option

BVB wants to cash in on a 28yr old but his hopes of Madrid did not materialize.

Except BVB drops their asking price, Bobo is staying.. at say mid 40M, CFC could be tempted if it cannot secure its top targets

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Zouma heading out on Loan

So back peddling Cahill, Luiz, Azpi, Rudiger ( are the 3 most senior CBs left, I think one more may have to be kept so ???who Christenson, Omeruo, Maiza( Loans) are the other CBs left

Right now Moses and Alonso are the only wing backs left

the squad is too thin

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Morata may have decided to stay at RM. Chelsea on to the next target.

How soon before we hear Belotti has decided not to move?

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@Benteke,
Not surprised at all. Only few top clubs in the market for a top striker. Man U got Lukaku, Arsenal with Lacazette. PSG not looking.. CFC only club actually looking for a striker & clearly PEA is not top 3 options for CFC. With top targets such as Morata, Lukaku, & Belotti - CFC clearly looking for younger players

AC milan is the other possible option

BVB wants to cash in on a 28yr old but his hopes of Madrid did not materialize.

Except BVB drops their asking price, Bobo is staying.. at say mid 40M, CFC could be tempted if it cannot secure its top targets

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Alex Sandro link made sense because of lack of options at LWB.

RWB is covered with VicMo and Azpi...so paying over 30 million for Danilo na wa.

Not sure we needed to splash the cash for Rudiger either unless Conte does not see a future for Zouma.


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Ugbowo wrote:
Alex Sandro link made sense because of lack of options at LWB.

RWB is covered with VicMo and Azpi...so paying over 30 million for Danilo na wa.

Not sure we needed to splash the cash for Rudiger either unless Conte does not see a future for Zouma.


Nah man. CfC needed another CB especially with JT & Ake out..
Even with Zouma leaving on loan, team probably need another CB. Hope Conte keeps christensen.

And Zouma is not a Conte style defender. He lacka ball playing skills. Not balanced/composed on the ball & poor passer. Doubt Rudiger is Conte's 1st choice but not a bad depth choice option.

Azpi not the most suitable back up for Moses. Need a wing back that contributes immensely offensively. I think Azpi is offensively limited. Can't dribble like Moses. The Danilo interest is understandable but I think Madrid just trying to off load the bobo. CFC should either do a James/bayern type of loan deal or force Madrid to drop price to low - mid 20s.

Will rather CFC get Sandro as an upgrade to Alonso. The defense will then be set.
Azpi/Rudiger/Luiz/Cahill/Christensen/Alonso for 3 CB spots
Moses/Azpi rotate RWB
Alonso/Sandro for LWB

Need to sort our midfield & striker

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Ugbowo wrote:
Alex Sandro link made sense because of lack of options at LWB.

RWB is covered with VicMo and Azpi...so paying over 30 million for Danilo na wa.

Not sure we needed to splash the cash for Rudiger either unless Conte does not see a future for Zouma.


The way I see it, with Zouma, Rudiger and Christensen, the future is good. Zouma goes out this new season to get his game fitness back.

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One for the future too if truly this tweet is to be believed.
For the future because of his injury.


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Rudiga, bakayoko, augmeyang and Morata.....Chelsea is set for a repeat next season and deep run in the champions league...


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analyzer wrote:
Ugbowo wrote:
Alex Sandro link made sense because of lack of options at LWB.

RWB is covered with VicMo and Azpi...so paying over 30 million for Danilo na wa.

Not sure we needed to splash the cash for Rudiger either unless Conte does not see a future for Zouma.


Nah man. CfC needed another CB especially with JT & Ake out..
Even with Zouma leaving on loan, team probably need another CB. Hope Conte keeps christensen.

And Zouma is not a Conte style defender. He lacka ball playing skills. Not balanced/composed on the ball & poor passer. Doubt Rudiger is Conte's 1st choice but not a bad depth choice option.

Azpi not the most suitable back up for Moses. Need a wing back that contributes immensely offensively. I think Azpi is offensively limited. Can't dribble like Moses. The Danilo interest is understandable but I think Madrid just trying to off load the bobo. CFC should either do a James/bayern type of loan deal or force Madrid to drop price to low - mid 20s.

Will rather CFC get Sandro as an upgrade to Alonso. The defense will then be set.
Azpi/Rudiger/Luiz/Cahill/Christensen/Alonso for 3 CB spots
Moses/Azpi rotate RWB
Alonso/Sandro for LWB

Need to sort our midfield & striker

:blink: :blink:
...U know he used to be an attacking mid right?

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paj wrote:
analyzer wrote:
Ugbowo wrote:
Alex Sandro link made sense because of lack of options at LWB.

RWB is covered with VicMo and Azpi...so paying over 30 million for Danilo na wa.

Not sure we needed to splash the cash for Rudiger either unless Conte does not see a future for Zouma.


Nah man. CfC needed another CB especially with JT & Ake out..
Even with Zouma leaving on loan, team probably need another CB. Hope Conte keeps christensen.

And Zouma is not a Conte style defender. He lacka ball playing skills. Not balanced/composed on the ball & poor passer. Doubt Rudiger is Conte's 1st choice but not a bad depth choice option.

Azpi not the most suitable back up for Moses. Need a wing back that contributes immensely offensively. I think Azpi is offensively limited. Can't dribble like Moses. The Danilo interest is understandable but I think Madrid just trying to off load the bobo. CFC should either do a James/bayern type of loan deal or force Madrid to drop price to low - mid 20s.

Will rather CFC get Sandro as an upgrade to Alonso. The defense will then be set.
Azpi/Rudiger/Luiz/Cahill/Christensen/Alonso for 3 CB spots
Moses/Azpi rotate RWB
Alonso/Sandro for LWB

Need to sort our midfield & striker

:blink: :blink:
...U know he used to be an attacking mid right?


And so what? Does that mean he is good as an attacking player?
Moses offers more going forward than Azpi. Azpi can cross but he cannot terrorize opposition defenders the way Moses can

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analyzer wrote:
paj wrote:
analyzer wrote:
Ugbowo wrote:
Alex Sandro link made sense because of lack of options at LWB.

RWB is covered with VicMo and Azpi...so paying over 30 million for Danilo na wa.

Not sure we needed to splash the cash for Rudiger either unless Conte does not see a future for Zouma.


Nah man. CfC needed another CB especially with JT & Ake out..
Even with Zouma leaving on loan, team probably need another CB. Hope Conte keeps christensen.

And Zouma is not a Conte style defender. He lacka ball playing skills. Not balanced/composed on the ball & poor passer. Doubt Rudiger is Conte's 1st choice but not a bad depth choice option.

Azpi not the most suitable back up for Moses. Need a wing back that contributes immensely offensively. I think Azpi is offensively limited. Can't dribble like Moses. The Danilo interest is understandable but I think Madrid just trying to off load the bobo. CFC should either do a James/bayern type of loan deal or force Madrid to drop price to low - mid 20s.

Will rather CFC get Sandro as an upgrade to Alonso. The defense will then be set.
Azpi/Rudiger/Luiz/Cahill/Christensen/Alonso for 3 CB spots
Moses/Azpi rotate RWB
Alonso/Sandro for LWB

Need to sort our midfield & striker

:blink: :blink:
...U know he used to be an attacking mid right?


And so what? Does that mean he is good as an attacking player?
Moses offers more going forward than Azpi. Azpi can cross but he cannot terrorize opposition defenders the way Moses can

with his dribbling how many assists did VM have?It's' about end product bro ..infact they have very similar goal/assist stats and we know which one is the defensive one

https://www.whoscored.com/Players/25931 ... zpilicueta
https://www.whoscored.com/Players/33064 ... ctor-Moses



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analyzer wrote:
paj wrote:
analyzer wrote:
Ugbowo wrote:
Alex Sandro link made sense because of lack of options at LWB.

RWB is covered with VicMo and Azpi...so paying over 30 million for Danilo na wa.

Not sure we needed to splash the cash for Rudiger either unless Conte does not see a future for Zouma.


Nah man. CfC needed another CB especially with JT & Ake out..
Even with Zouma leaving on loan, team probably need another CB. Hope Conte keeps christensen.

And Zouma is not a Conte style defender. He lacka ball playing skills. Not balanced/composed on the ball & poor passer. Doubt Rudiger is Conte's 1st choice but not a bad depth choice option.

Azpi not the most suitable back up for Moses. Need a wing back that contributes immensely offensively. I think Azpi is offensively limited. Can't dribble like Moses. The Danilo interest is understandable but I think Madrid just trying to off load the bobo. CFC should either do a James/bayern type of loan deal or force Madrid to drop price to low - mid 20s.

Will rather CFC get Sandro as an upgrade to Alonso. The defense will then be set.
Azpi/Rudiger/Luiz/Cahill/Christensen/Alonso for 3 CB spots
Moses/Azpi rotate RWB
Alonso/Sandro for LWB

Need to sort our midfield & striker

:blink: :blink:
...U know he used to be an attacking mid right?


And so what? Does that mean he is good as an attacking player?
Moses offers more going forward than Azpi. Azpi can cross but he cannot terrorize opposition defenders the way Moses can


Not even arguable. PaJ need to lay off the cheap weed. :mrgreen: ... In any event, quality depth is the key for next season so the more the merrier for me. Last seasons paper thin squad won't hold up this season especially considering that they were very lucky with injuries.

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wonderful news, the overrated Matic continues to train alone

https://weaintgotnohistory.sbnation.com ... nter-milan

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he big news yesterday before the Bakayoko signing was basically confirmed last night was that Nemanja Matić has continued to train on his own at Cobham, which, as the Telegraph’s report puts it, means that “Chelsea’s players are convinced Matic is on the brink of leaving”. While the rest of the team (minus any new Loan Army members like Ruben Loftus-Cheek and Kurt Zouma) has been taking to Conte’s double sessions to start gearing up for the new season, Matić has been training by himself off to the side.


time to Enjoy Chelsea again ( Solid brothers running the midfield, alas Mikel, Essien, Maka, Geremi, Lass) Now we have Ngolo, Baka .. no more one legged donkeys alas Matic..no be only united sabi sign Africans

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green4life wrote:
analyzer wrote:
paj wrote:
analyzer wrote:
Ugbowo wrote:
Alex Sandro link made sense because of lack of options at LWB.

RWB is covered with VicMo and Azpi...so paying over 30 million for Danilo na wa.

Not sure we needed to splash the cash for Rudiger either unless Conte does not see a future for Zouma.


Nah man. CfC needed another CB especially with JT & Ake out..
Even with Zouma leaving on loan, team probably need another CB. Hope Conte keeps christensen.

And Zouma is not a Conte style defender. He lacka ball playing skills. Not balanced/composed on the ball & poor passer. Doubt Rudiger is Conte's 1st choice but not a bad depth choice option.

Azpi not the most suitable back up for Moses. Need a wing back that contributes immensely offensively. I think Azpi is offensively limited. Can't dribble like Moses. The Danilo interest is understandable but I think Madrid just trying to off load the bobo. CFC should either do a James/bayern type of loan deal or force Madrid to drop price to low - mid 20s.

Will rather CFC get Sandro as an upgrade to Alonso. The defense will then be set.
Azpi/Rudiger/Luiz/Cahill/Christensen/Alonso for 3 CB spots
Moses/Azpi rotate RWB
Alonso/Sandro for LWB

Need to sort our midfield & striker

:blink: :blink:
...U know he used to be an attacking mid right?


And so what? Does that mean he is good as an attacking player?
Moses offers more going forward than Azpi. Azpi can cross but he cannot terrorize opposition defenders the way Moses can


Not even arguable. PaJ need to lay off the cheap weed. :mrgreen: ... In any event, quality depth is the key for next season so the more the merrier for me. Last seasons paper thin squad won't hold up this season especially considering that they were very lucky with injuries.

Again...I have stats to back up my weed intake...U don't have to be a dribbler to be impactful in today's football.. 8-)

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wonderful news, the overrated Matic continues to train alone

https://weaintgotnohistory.sbnation.com ... nter-milan

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he big news yesterday before the Bakayoko signing was basically confirmed last night was that Nemanja Matić has continued to train on his own at Cobham, which, as the Telegraph’s report puts it, means that “Chelsea’s players are convinced Matic is on the brink of leaving”. While the rest of the team (minus any new Loan Army members like Ruben Loftus-Cheek and Kurt Zouma) has been taking to Conte’s double sessions to start gearing up for the new season, Matić has been training by himself off to the side.


time to Enjoy Chelsea again ( Solid brothers running the midfield, alas Mikel, Essien, Maka, Geremi, Lass) Now we have Ngolo, Baka .. no more one legged donkeys alas Matic..no be only united sabi sign Africans

You sound gleeful...this wont bring Mikel back tho :taunt:

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Should Chalobah leave on loan?

Is Bakayoko THAT much of an upgrade than Chalobah?

Is Rudiger that much of an upgrade than Zouma?

They are all around the same age.

I think we need 2 strikers. Tammy going on loan and Solanke leaving leaves us without a third choice. Unless Conte wants to continue that Hazard experiment.

I'm happy Musonda is staying. Hope he gets game time.

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Should Chalobah leave on loan?

Is Bakayoko THAT much of an upgrade than Chalobah?

Is Rudiger that much of an upgrade than Zouma?

They are all around the same age.

I think we need 2 strikers. Tammy going on loan and Solanke leaving leaves us without a third choice. Unless Conte wants to continue that Hazard experiment.

I'm happy Musonda is staying. Hope he gets game time.

Wsup w Kennedy???

I don't see anything special in that Chalobah,in fact he looks like the cheaper version of Mikel.

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Should Chalobah leave on loan?

Is Bakayoko THAT much of an upgrade than Chalobah?

Is Rudiger that much of an upgrade than Zouma?

They are all around the same age.

I think we need 2 strikers. Tammy going on loan and Solanke leaving leaves us without a third choice. Unless Conte wants to continue that Hazard experiment.

I'm happy Musonda is staying. Hope he gets game time.

Wsup w Kennedy???


My Chief, lets address it one at a time:

1. Bakayoko is definitely an upgrade on Chabolah. No doubt.

2. The greater concern with respect to Zouma is that his ball control and passing abilities as a defender are not good enough for what Conte needs from his CB. Rudiger is better in that regard and is also a good defender so on paper Rudiger seems like a better fit than Zouma.

3. CFC will buy a striker to replace Diego. Your guess is as good as mine as to whether it will be Morata, Belloti or Aubemayang. There are compelling arguments to make for each. On paper, Aubemayang seems like the least likely of possibilities in that he doesn't have that frame that Conte tends to favor but from a perspective of price and the future of a gem like Tammy Abraham, he gives CFC 2 to 3 yrs to plug the gap which Tammy can fill assuming his current career trajectory continues.

4. I'm also happy for Masonda as I feel he's a potential diamond in the rough from the few appearances I watched when he featured on loan in La Liga for Real Betis. He's quite exciting to watch which endeared him to the fans at Betis.

5. Kennedey, I feel has potential as a left wing back but with CL on the card this season, Conte understandably is looking to fill squad needs with as much proven talent as possible and I don't blame him given that Roman is not the most patient boss in Europe.

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green4life wrote:
Ugbowo wrote:
Should Chalobah leave on loan?

Is Bakayoko THAT much of an upgrade than Chalobah?

Is Rudiger that much of an upgrade than Zouma?

They are all around the same age.

I think we need 2 strikers. Tammy going on loan and Solanke leaving leaves us without a third choice. Unless Conte wants to continue that Hazard experiment.

I'm happy Musonda is staying. Hope he gets game time.

Wsup w Kennedy???


My Chief, lets address it one at a time:

1. Bakayoko is definitely an upgrade on Chabolah. No doubt.

2. The greater concern with respect to Zouma is that his ball control and passing abilities as a defender are not good enough for what Conte needs from his CB. Rudiger is better in that regard and is also a good defender so on paper Rudiger seems like a better fit than Zouma.

3. CFC will buy a striker to replace Diego. Your guess is as good as mine as to whether it will be Morata, Belloti or Aubemayang. There are compelling arguments to make for each. On paper, Aubemayang seems like the least likely of possibilities in that he doesn't have that frame that Conte tends to favor but from a perspective of price and the future of a gem like Tammy Abraham, he gives CFC 2 to 3 yrs to plug the gap which Tammy can fill assuming his current career trajectory continues.

4. I'm also happy for Masonda as I feel he's a potential diamond in the rough from the few appearances I watched when he featured on loan in La Liga for Real Betis. He's quite exciting to watch which endeared him to the fans at Betis.

5. Kennedey, I feel has potential as a left wing back but with CL on the card this season, Conte understandably is looking to fill squad needs with as much proven talent as possible and I don't blame him given that Roman is not the most patient boss in Europe.


Kpom!!

Feel sad for Zouma but his deficiencies were clear right from day 1. If he can work on his ball playing skills while on loan, that will be great. Unfortunately, I just do not see him significantly improving those skill sets..

Kenedy does seem like a forgotten man. Agree, will be suited in LWB if plays similarly to Moses. Not a fantastic individual defender but working in cohesion with the rest of the back line, can keep the D tight. Injuries have not been kind to the kid. Still hold out hopes for him. Exciting player.

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oloye wrote:
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Should Chalobah leave on loan?

Is Bakayoko THAT much of an upgrade than Chalobah?

Is Rudiger that much of an upgrade than Zouma?

They are all around the same age.

I think we need 2 strikers. Tammy going on loan and Solanke leaving leaves us without a third choice. Unless Conte wants to continue that Hazard experiment.

I'm happy Musonda is staying. Hope he gets game time.

Wsup w Kennedy???

I don't see anything special in that Chalobah,in fact he looks like the cheaper version of Mikel.

the cheaper version of Mikel is 500 billion times better, please , do not mention Mikel's name near that junk

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green4life wrote:
Ugbowo wrote:
Should Chalobah leave on loan?

Is Bakayoko THAT much of an upgrade than Chalobah?

Is Rudiger that much of an upgrade than Zouma?

They are all around the same age.

I think we need 2 strikers. Tammy going on loan and Solanke leaving leaves us without a third choice. Unless Conte wants to continue that Hazard experiment.

I'm happy Musonda is staying. Hope he gets game time.

Wsup w Kennedy???


My Chief, lets address it one at a time:

1. Bakayoko is definitely an upgrade on Chabolah. No doubt.

2. The greater concern with respect to Zouma is that his ball control and passing abilities as a defender are not good enough for what Conte needs from his CB. Rudiger is better in that regard and is also a good defender so on paper Rudiger seems like a better fit than Zouma.

3. CFC will buy a striker to replace Diego. Your guess is as good as mine as to whether it will be Morata, Belloti or Aubemayang. There are compelling arguments to make for each. On paper, Aubemayang seems like the least likely of possibilities in that he doesn't have that frame that Conte tends to favor but from a perspective of price and the future of a gem like Tammy Abraham, he gives CFC 2 to 3 yrs to plug the gap which Tammy can fill assuming his current career trajectory continues.

4. I'm also happy for Masonda as I feel he's a potential diamond in the rough from the few appearances I watched when he featured on loan in La Liga for Real Betis. He's quite exciting to watch which endeared him to the fans at Betis.

5. Kennedey, I feel has potential as a left wing back but with CL on the card this season, Conte understandably is looking to fill squad needs with as much proven talent as possible and I don't blame him given that Roman is not the most patient boss in Europe.


G4L,

1. I know Bakayako is an upgrade over Chalobah. But do we need to go shell out 40 million for him? is he THAT much of an upgrade? I think the jury is out on him being that he was really a 1 season guy and Fabinho IMHO was the better player of the two when he played in midfield. I'm not too excited about this one.

2. We keep harping on Zouma's ball control but we are playing Cahill in our defense as well. What Zouma lacks in ball control he more than makes up for in speed and physicality. He was rusty last season and just needs game time. I guess with cut throat nature of the business we cant afford for a young player to play through his rustiness? Going to Stoke or WBrom may give him game time but im not sure what it does for actual technical development. Rudiger seems like Conte's FIFTH choice in the transfer market. Another defender im not too sold on as well because of his strangely inadequate disciplinary record in the not so fierce Serie A last year. I don't think he is an upgrade to anything we currently have in the first 11. 32 million for a back up. No be my money sha.

3. I know we are going to get a striker. If you noticed, I said 2 strikers. The top 3 are the ones you mentioned...those are a given. We need another option besides Batman as back up.

5. I am not in training with CFC, but the Kennedy Mourinho unleashed on us always seemed like he will be a way better fit than Alonso at LWB. He works very hard and was very strong and physical when he played. Had ability to take on players and packed a wicked left foot. I am sick and tired of seeing Alonso being pressed during the big games and almost always falling into a clumsy situation and losing the ball. Sandro would have been the perfect upgrade but not for 70 million. Kennedy deserves a shot.


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