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You need bigger font so that coconut head, TXJ can read it :rotf: :rotf:


No need; I read it alright... especially the last part :biggrin:



na you be coconut head? :huh: :huh:

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Not sure if the player has put in a transfer request but if so, then the club has to set a price and move on. The timing, though an important consideration, should not prevent an agreement from being reached. Contracts are made to be revisited as conditions change especially in professional sports.



So if Madrid came in for Hazard right now and he agreed, you would advise Chelsea to set a price and move on? Move on to what exactly?

Did PSG set a price for Veratti and move on when Barca turned his head?

As Klopp said, its about timing...

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Not sure if the player has put in a transfer request but if so, then the club has to set a price and move on. The timing, though an important consideration, should not prevent an agreement from being reached. Contracts are made to be revisited as conditions change especially in professional sports.



So if Madrid came in for Hazard right now and he agreed, you would advise Chelsea to set a price and move on? Move on to what exactly?

Did PSG set a price for Veratti and move on when Barca turned his head?

As Klopp said, its about timing...


Veratti didn't put in a transfer request do. Coutinho and Dembele did! Btw, Veratti will eventually join Barcelona in the future!

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txj wrote:
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Not sure if the player has put in a transfer request but if so, then the club has to set a price and move on. The timing, though an important consideration, should not prevent an agreement from being reached. Contracts are made to be revisited as conditions change especially in professional sports.



So if Madrid came in for Hazard right now and he agreed, you would advise Chelsea to set a price and move on? Move on to what exactly?

Did PSG set a price for Veratti and move on when Barca turned his head?

As Klopp said, its about timing...


Yes. If Hazard puts a transfer request, it's left for Roman to set a price. Let's say he demands 200 million pounds and the buyer comes up with the cash - and yes even on August 31st abi na September 1st, you close the deal and move on. It's not the first and won't be the last. Chelsea is actually bad example for you to use given they've sold multiple important players (past and present) without much drama like Robben to Madrid, Cech to Arsenal and of course Mata & Matic to ManU. Then you have promising young players that they let go like KDB, Lukaku, Ake and even Chalobah they cut loose for a measly 5mill just to push the young man along. Heck, even Liverpool gained from chelsea sales so you should know better. Liverpool shouldn't behave like a small club in this matter. If and/ or when coutinho puts in a transfer request, Liverpool must set a price and move on.

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Not sure if the player has put in a transfer request but if so, then the club has to set a price and move on. The timing, though an important consideration, should not prevent an agreement from being reached. Contracts are made to be revisited as conditions change especially in professional sports.



So if Madrid came in for Hazard right now and he agreed, you would advise Chelsea to set a price and move on? Move on to what exactly?

Did PSG set a price for Veratti and move on when Barca turned his head?

As Klopp said, its about timing...


Yes. If Hazard puts a transfer request, it's left for Roman to set a price. Let's say he demands 200 million pounds and the buyer comes up with the cash - and yes even on August 31st abi na September 1st, you close the deal and move on. It's not the first and won't be the last. Chelsea is actually bad example for you to use given they've sold multiple important players (past and present) without much drama like Robben to Madrid, Cech to Arsenal and of course Mata & Matic to ManU. Then you have promising young players that they let go like KDB, Lukaku, Ake and even Chalobah they cut loose for a measly 5mill just to push the young man along. Heck, even Liverpool gained from chelsea sales so you should know better. Liverpool shouldn't behave like a small club in this matter. If and/ or when coutinho puts in a transfer request, Liverpool must set a price and move on.


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I do not agree with the above. Every team has a plan for the season and that plan is to win with certain players or certain qualities. You cannot let a quality player leave at the very last moment except if you have a replacement setup. A player may not be happy but he is still a professional. I do not think Suarez performed poorly when LFC held on to him in spite of his initial demands to move. LPC has plans and Coutinho is a critical part of that. It is only best to let him go if you have a replacement. Furthermore, if you simply let a player go because he demands it then you will be forced to take less for such transfers. To strengthen your hand in negotiation is to keep the player's status as wide open as possible.

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txj wrote:
green4life wrote:
Not sure if the player has put in a transfer request but if so, then the club has to set a price and move on. The timing, though an important consideration, should not prevent an agreement from being reached. Contracts are made to be revisited as conditions change especially in professional sports.



So if Madrid came in for Hazard right now and he agreed, you would advise Chelsea to set a price and move on? Move on to what exactly?

Did PSG set a price for Veratti and move on when Barca turned his head?

As Klopp said, its about timing...


Veratti didn't put in a transfer request do. Coutinho and Dembele did! Btw, Veratti will eventually join Barcelona in the future!


He asked to leave, as did Dembele. Unlike the English, both countries do not have a culture of formal transfer request...

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green4life wrote:
txj wrote:
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Not sure if the player has put in a transfer request but if so, then the club has to set a price and move on. The timing, though an important consideration, should not prevent an agreement from being reached. Contracts are made to be revisited as conditions change especially in professional sports.



So if Madrid came in for Hazard right now and he agreed, you would advise Chelsea to set a price and move on? Move on to what exactly?

Did PSG set a price for Veratti and move on when Barca turned his head?

As Klopp said, its about timing...


Yes. If Hazard puts a transfer request, it's left for Roman to set a price. Let's say he demands 200 million pounds and the buyer comes up with the cash - and yes even on August 31st abi na September 1st, you close the deal and move on. It's not the first and won't be the last. Chelsea is actually bad example for you to use given they've sold multiple important players (past and present) without much drama like Robben to Madrid, Cech to Arsenal and of course Mata & Matic to ManU. Then you have promising young players that they let go like KDB, Lukaku, Ake and even Chalobah they cut loose for a measly 5mill just to push the young man along. Heck, even Liverpool gained from chelsea sales so you should know better. Liverpool shouldn't behave like a small club in this matter. If and/ or when coutinho puts in a transfer request, Liverpool must set a price and move on.


Chalobah! Why not Demba Ba? You are some funny dude...

I asked you about Hazard whom ur club was already quick to declare not for sale, even while injured, and u are giving me lousy examples of surplus players!

What a joke! :rotf: :rotf:

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Txj, the relevant question is whether the player put in a transfer request. If not, then I agree with you but if yes, then ultimately the club has to set a price and close.

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Why would any world class player want to rot in Liverpool? Of course he has already put a transfer request.
He is not playing today, is he?
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Txj, the relevant question is whether the player put in a transfer request. If not, then I agree with you but if yes, then ultimately the club has to set a price and close.


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Watching this Liverpool team no wonder Coutinho wants out! They are an average team with a very bad defense!

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Watching this Liverpool team no wonder Coutinho wants out! They are an average team with a very bad defense!



I would worry more about Barca if I were you. ALL your key players are 30yrs, close to it or over it: Messi, Iniesta, Pique, Suarez, Rakitic, Mascherano, Busquets....and ur Board has been unable to get in credible backups..

Even worse, ur la masia has been virtually destroyed...

Compare that to Madrid who have already made the transition with quality young players well in place...

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green4life wrote:
Txj, the relevant question is whether the player put in a transfer request. If not, then I agree with you but if yes, then ultimately the club has to set a price and close.



Its a wholly irrelevant question. Players request to be transferred all the time. Veratti did. PSG refused; end of story...

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txj wrote:
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Txj, the relevant question is whether the player put in a transfer request. If not, then I agree with you but if yes, then ultimately the club has to set a price and close.



Its a wholly irrelevant question. Players request to be transferred all the time. Veratti did. PSG refused; end of story...



I thought you just said Veratti didn't put in a transfer request because it isn't the culture in France? Now you are saying he did put in a request? :???: :???: :???: :???: :???: :???: :???: :???: :???: :???: :???: :???:

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Watching this Liverpool team no wonder Coutinho wants out! They are an average team with a very bad defense!



I would worry more about Barca if I were you. ALL your key players are 30yrs, close to it or over it: Messi, Iniesta, Pique, Suarez, Rakitic, Mascherano, Busquets....and ur Board has been unable to get in credible backups..

Even worse, ur la masia has been virtually destroyed...

Compare that to Madrid who have already made the transition with quality young players well in place...


txj, you be Looserpool fan? :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: Don't worry about Barcelona..... we are going to be find. There is a reason Veratti, Coutinho and Dembele and Dybala wants to just us. They know what we are all about. When Barcelona come calling, I have never ever seen a player that said no! Clubs needs to realized that and stop being difficult!

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Undertaker wrote:
txj wrote:
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Txj, the relevant question is whether the player put in a transfer request. If not, then I agree with you but if yes, then ultimately the club has to set a price and close.



Its a wholly irrelevant question. Players request to be transferred all the time. Veratti did. PSG refused; end of story...



I thought you just said Veratti didn't put in a transfer request because it isn't the culture in France? Now you are saying he did put in a request? :???: :???: :???: :???: :???: :???: :???: :???: :???: :???: :???: :???:


Bottomline is Veratti VERBALLY requested to go to Barca. The culture of a written transfer request is largely and English thing...

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Watching this Liverpool team no wonder Coutinho wants out! They are an average team with a very bad defense!



I would worry more about Barca if I were you. ALL your key players are 30yrs, close to it or over it: Messi, Iniesta, Pique, Suarez, Rakitic, Mascherano, Busquets....and ur Board has been unable to get in credible backups..

Even worse, ur la masia has been virtually destroyed...

Compare that to Madrid who have already made the transition with quality young players well in place...


txj, you be Looserpool fan? :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: Don't worry about Barcelona..... we are going to be find. There is a reason Veratti, Coutinho and Dembele and Dybala wants to just us. They know what we are all about. When Barcelona come calling, I have never ever seen a player that said no! Clubs needs to realized that and stop being difficult!



Thiago Silva said no. Neymar just dumped Barca. Marquinos has repeatedly said no.

I like Barca and I follow it much better than you do, and are much better informed about the team than you do...

Madrid sign Ceballos, 22yrs or thereabout and best U-23 player in europe. Your team is about to sign Paulinho from China at the young age of 29!

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txj wrote:
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txj wrote:
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Watching this Liverpool team no wonder Coutinho wants out! They are an average team with a very bad defense!



I would worry more about Barca if I were you. ALL your key players are 30yrs, close to it or over it: Messi, Iniesta, Pique, Suarez, Rakitic, Mascherano, Busquets....and ur Board has been unable to get in credible backups..

Even worse, ur la masia has been virtually destroyed...

Compare that to Madrid who have already made the transition with quality young players well in place...


txj, you be Looserpool fan? :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: Don't worry about Barcelona..... we are going to be find. There is a reason Veratti, Coutinho and Dembele and Dybala wants to just us. They know what we are all about. When Barcelona come calling, I have never ever seen a player that said no! Clubs needs to realized that and stop being difficult!



Thiago Silva said no. Neymar just dumped Barca. Marquinos has repeatedly said no.

I like Barca and I follow it much better than you do, and are much better informed about the team than you do...

Madrid sign Ceballos, 22yrs or thereabout and best U-23 player in europe. Your team is about to sign Paulinho from China at the young age of 29!


Thaigo Silva and Marqiunos, two PSG salves said "NO" to Barcelona? When? Go find me the story when they said no! Paulinho is a Brazilian... it is a duty of a Brazilian player to play for Barcelona. Why do you thinks Coutinho is fighting like hell to come play for us? Neymar dumped us? ok, that statement alone just exposed you hatred for FC Barcelona!

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@Tx, nno! Defence ogini?


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Undertaker wrote:
txj wrote:
Undertaker wrote:
txj wrote:
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Watching this Liverpool team no wonder Coutinho wants out! They are an average team with a very bad defense!



I would worry more about Barca if I were you. ALL your key players are 30yrs, close to it or over it: Messi, Iniesta, Pique, Suarez, Rakitic, Mascherano, Busquets....and ur Board has been unable to get in credible backups..

Even worse, ur la masia has been virtually destroyed...

Compare that to Madrid who have already made the transition with quality young players well in place...


txj, you be Looserpool fan? :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: Don't worry about Barcelona..... we are going to be find. There is a reason Veratti, Coutinho and Dembele and Dybala wants to just us. They know what we are all about. When Barcelona come calling, I have never ever seen a player that said no! Clubs needs to realized that and stop being difficult!



Thiago Silva said no. Neymar just dumped Barca. Marquinos has repeatedly said no.

I like Barca and I follow it much better than you do, and are much better informed about the team than you do...

Madrid sign Ceballos, 22yrs or thereabout and best U-23 player in europe. Your team is about to sign Paulinho from China at the young age of 29!


Thaigo Silva and Marqiunos, two PSG salves said "NO" to Barcelona? When? Go find me the story when they said no! Paulinho is a Brazilian... it is a duty of a Brazilian player to play for Barcelona. Why do you thinks Coutinho is fighting like hell to come play for us? Neymar dumped us? ok, that statement alone just exposed you hatred for FC Barcelona!



Like I said earlier, u are a fake Barca fan.

Thiago Silva chose PSG over Barca in moving from Milan. Marquinos has repeatedly said no since moving to PSG.

Not just that Neymar dumped Barca, he and his dad took Barcelona for mugs; even had the audacity to request the $26m bonus on their way out :rotf:

Madrid sign Ceballos, then your team is celebrating signing Paulinho at 29! :???:

So among top Spanish young players, Vallejo said no.

Ceballos said no.

Theo Hernandez said no...

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@Tx, nno! Defence ogini?


Poor, and its not about individuals but the mentality on defence...

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txj wrote:
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txj wrote:
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txj wrote:
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Watching this Liverpool team no wonder Coutinho wants out! They are an average team with a very bad defense!



I would worry more about Barca if I were you. ALL your key players are 30yrs, close to it or over it: Messi, Iniesta, Pique, Suarez, Rakitic, Mascherano, Busquets....and ur Board has been unable to get in credible backups..

Even worse, ur la masia has been virtually destroyed...

Compare that to Madrid who have already made the transition with quality young players well in place...


txj, you be Looserpool fan? :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: Don't worry about Barcelona..... we are going to be find. There is a reason Veratti, Coutinho and Dembele and Dybala wants to just us. They know what we are all about. When Barcelona come calling, I have never ever seen a player that said no! Clubs needs to realized that and stop being difficult!



Thiago Silva said no. Neymar just dumped Barca. Marquinos has repeatedly said no.

I like Barca and I follow it much better than you do, and are much better informed about the team than you do...

Madrid sign Ceballos, 22yrs or thereabout and best U-23 player in europe. Your team is about to sign Paulinho from China at the young age of 29!


Thaigo Silva and Marqiunos, two PSG salves said "NO" to Barcelona? When? Go find me the story when they said no! Paulinho is a Brazilian... it is a duty of a Brazilian player to play for Barcelona. Why do you thinks Coutinho is fighting like hell to come play for us? Neymar dumped us? ok, that statement alone just exposed you hatred for FC Barcelona!



Like I said earlier, u are a fake Barca fan.

Thiago Silva chose PSG over Barca in moving from Milan. Marquinos has repeatedly said no since moving to PSG.

Not just that Neymar dumped Barca, he and his dad took Barcelona for mugs; even had the audacity to request the $26m bonus on their way out :rotf:

Madrid sign Ceballos, then your team is celebrating signing Paulinho at 29! :???:

So among top Spanish young players, Vallejo said no.

Ceballos said no.

Theo Hernandez said no...


txj, I thought you said you liked Barcelona and you are a fan? :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: With haters like you who need enemies? You keep naming all these players who will eventually amount to nothing. Not every player can play for Barcelona but we will definitely taking your players if we want them and you know that well they are willing to join us? Visca El Barca!

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Undertaker wrote:
txj wrote:
Undertaker wrote:
txj wrote:
Undertaker wrote:
txj wrote:
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Watching this Liverpool team no wonder Coutinho wants out! They are an average team with a very bad defense!



I would worry more about Barca if I were you. ALL your key players are 30yrs, close to it or over it: Messi, Iniesta, Pique, Suarez, Rakitic, Mascherano, Busquets....and ur Board has been unable to get in credible backups..

Even worse, ur la masia has been virtually destroyed...

Compare that to Madrid who have already made the transition with quality young players well in place...


txj, you be Looserpool fan? :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: Don't worry about Barcelona..... we are going to be find. There is a reason Veratti, Coutinho and Dembele and Dybala wants to just us. They know what we are all about. When Barcelona come calling, I have never ever seen a player that said no! Clubs needs to realized that and stop being difficult!



Thiago Silva said no. Neymar just dumped Barca. Marquinos has repeatedly said no.

I like Barca and I follow it much better than you do, and are much better informed about the team than you do...

Madrid sign Ceballos, 22yrs or thereabout and best U-23 player in europe. Your team is about to sign Paulinho from China at the young age of 29!


Thaigo Silva and Marqiunos, two PSG salves said "NO" to Barcelona? When? Go find me the story when they said no! Paulinho is a Brazilian... it is a duty of a Brazilian player to play for Barcelona. Why do you thinks Coutinho is fighting like hell to come play for us? Neymar dumped us? ok, that statement alone just exposed you hatred for FC Barcelona!



Like I said earlier, u are a fake Barca fan.

Thiago Silva chose PSG over Barca in moving from Milan. Marquinos has repeatedly said no since moving to PSG.

Not just that Neymar dumped Barca, he and his dad took Barcelona for mugs; even had the audacity to request the $26m bonus on their way out :rotf:

Madrid sign Ceballos, then your team is celebrating signing Paulinho at 29! :???:

So among top Spanish young players, Vallejo said no.

Ceballos said no.

Theo Hernandez said no...


txj, I thought you said you liked Barcelona and you are a fan? :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: With haters like you who need enemies? You keep naming all these players who will eventually amount to nothing. Not every player can play for Barcelona but we will definitely taking your players if we want them and you know that well they are willing to join us? Visca El Barca!


I think my record on Barca here on CE is clear. I'm far better informed about the team than you are...Barca is my fav team next to LFC, but I'm informed enough to know the current board are not just crap, but thieves...

The top next generation of Spanish players are all at Madrid and u are claiming they'll amount to nothing...shows how much u know!

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txj wrote:
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@Tx, nno! Defence ogini?


Poor, and its not about individuals but the mentality on defence...



Liverpool is a very useless team. It is very poor and yes, it isn't about the individuals but the mentality of the team is very poor as well. The truth is that Looserpool is just a very small poor team living on past glories. Let Courtinho go!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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