MIKEL, MOSES, IGHALO HEAD 23-MAN SQUAD FOR ZAMBIA
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Why would Akpeyi start?Tbite wrote:If akpeyi starts I will slap Rohr so hard he will permanently resemble a tiger.
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1naija,
Enyeama is Nigeria's best ever keeper. Period. With due respect to Yobo's commendable national career, he can't lay claim to being our best ever defender - Chukwu, Keshi , Achebe, Okechukwu Uche- will all have superior assertions. No need getting your pants all crooked. You cannot rewrite history. Yobo lifted the 2013 Cup, but he played only a bit part. Notwithstanding, he belongs in the Nigerian Hall of Fame.
Enyeama is Nigeria's best ever keeper. Period. With due respect to Yobo's commendable national career, he can't lay claim to being our best ever defender - Chukwu, Keshi , Achebe, Okechukwu Uche- will all have superior assertions. No need getting your pants all crooked. You cannot rewrite history. Yobo lifted the 2013 Cup, but he played only a bit part. Notwithstanding, he belongs in the Nigerian Hall of Fame.
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Because Rohr called Ezenwa his 4th choice...Eaglezbeak wrote:Why would Akpeyi start?Tbite wrote:If akpeyi starts I will slap Rohr so hard he will permanently resemble a tiger.
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Akpeyi will have to earn it in training because he is not a regular for his club.
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Obong wrote:1naija,
Enyeama is Nigeria's best ever keeper. Period. With due respect to Yobo's commendable national career, he can't lay claim to being our best ever defender - Chukwu, Keshi , Achebe, Okechukwu Uche- will all have superior assertions. No need getting your pants all crooked. You cannot rewrite history. Yobo lifted the 2013 Cup, but he played only a bit part. Notwithstanding, he belongs in the Nigerian Hall of Fame.
I rate Okala and Rufai ahead of Enyeama.
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I'm not saying he will.Eaglezbeak wrote:Why would Akpeyi start?Tbite wrote:If akpeyi starts I will slap Rohr so hard he will permanently resemble a tiger.
but I will be extremely angry if he does.
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and I will kick him to so hard he'd become permanently nutless like TFCOTbite wrote:If akpeyi starts I will slap Rohr so hard he will permanently resemble a tiger.
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Based on what? Nostalgia? Because if you are talking of consistency and longevity at the highest level, no one compares to Enyeama. If it's trophies, individual awards/nominations still Enyeama. The only Nigerian to competently secure the number 1 spot in a European club in Europe's top 4 leagues for at least 3 seasons in a row. Add to that the second longest clean sheet run in Ligue 1 history. So where is the comparison.ohenhen1 wrote:Obong wrote:1naija,
Enyeama is Nigeria's best ever keeper. Period. With due respect to Yobo's commendable national career, he can't lay claim to being our best ever defender - Chukwu, Keshi , Achebe, Okechukwu Uche- will all have superior assertions. No need getting your pants all crooked. You cannot rewrite history. Yobo lifted the 2013 Cup, but he played only a bit part. Notwithstanding, he belongs in the Nigerian Hall of Fame.
I rate Okala and Rufai ahead of Enyeama.
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Yawwwnnn!
Do we have to go thru this song and dance again? Geez!
Do we have to go thru this song and dance again? Geez!
Obong wrote:1naija,
Enyeama is Nigeria's best ever keeper. Period. With due respect to Yobo's commendable national career, he can't lay claim to being our best ever defender - Chukwu, Keshi , Achebe, Okechukwu Uche- will all have superior assertions. No need getting your pants all crooked. You cannot rewrite history. Yobo lifted the 2013 Cup, but he played only a bit part. Notwithstanding, he belongs in the Nigerian Hall of Fame.
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Except when injured, Akpeyi is first-choice at Chippa...ohenhen1 wrote:Akpeyi will have to earn it in training because he is not a regular for his club.
However, if I was the SE coach, I would go with Ezenwa at this point.
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**The focus here should be on National team exploits, not what he did at his club. Nonetheless, the fact of the matter is Rufai accomplished a lot more for country than Enyeama did, considering the number of caps it took to accomplish those feats.
Enyeama = 101 caps (2002 - 2015) 13 yrs
Enyeama = 1 Nations Cup (2013), 3 WC appearances (2002, 2010, 2014)
Rufai kept in Belgium, Portugal and Spain
Enyeama kept in Isreal and France
Rufai - 65 caps (1983 - 1998) 15yrsAdisboy wrote: Based on what? Nostalgia? Because if you are talking of consistency and longevity at the highest level, no one compares to Enyeama
Enyeama = 101 caps (2002 - 2015) 13 yrs
Rufai = 1 Nations Cup (1994), 2 WC appearances (1994, 1998)Adisboy wrote:If it's trophies, individual awards/nominations still Enyeama
Enyeama = 1 Nations Cup (2013), 3 WC appearances (2002, 2010, 2014)
Foul!Adisboy wrote:The only Nigerian to competently secure the number 1 spot in a European club in Europe's top 4 leagues for at least 3 seasons in a row. Add to that the second longest clean sheet run in Ligue 1 history. So where is the comparison.
Rufai kept in Belgium, Portugal and Spain
Enyeama kept in Isreal and France
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Even when his ego is probably shot due to him embarrassingly concede 4 goals in a cup final?
This one is a head scratchier for me.
This one is a head scratchier for me.
Gotti wrote:Except when injured, Akpeyi is first-choice at Chippa...ohenhen1 wrote:Akpeyi will have to earn it in training because he is not a regular for his club.
However, if I was the SE coach, I would go with Ezenwa at this point.
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What was the “embarrassment”? That he didn’t save 2 PKs...Otitokoro wrote:Even when his ego is probably shot due to him embarrassingly concede 4 goals in a cup final?
This one is a head scratchier for me.
While Ezenwa’s poor kick out (an Akpeyi specialty) led to Ghana’s 4th goal...
Akpeyi makes more mistakes in ONE game than Ezenwa did in the entire 5 WAFU games.
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I think Eguavoen captained the team at the 94 AFCON and handed the band to Keshi to receive the cup. Rufai captained the team at USA 94 except for the match against Greece when Keshi started.Obong wrote:Okay, Gotti. We got this. Yobo is unarguably one of Nigeria's greatest. However, in the 2013 ANC, Enyeama actually captained the matches especially with Omeruo upstaging Yobo. Out of respect, and following hallowed soccer traditions, Enyeama handed Yobo the captain's band for Chief Yobo to go and get the cup handed to him. Incidentally, in the 1994 ANC, the same scenario occurred where Rufai captained and an injured Keshi was given the band to receive the cup.Gotti wrote:MODS!1naija wrote:Only 3 Nigerian captains has lifted the African Cup of Nations.Gotti wrote:Because a strong bench is just as important...1naija wrote:Why do we always argue which bench player is omitted or selected? None of those players will see action against Zambia until the game is won regardless of how they play for their clubs.
Didn’t you take comfort in Yobo coming on for the last 2 mins of our ANC 2013 games to shut up shop?
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Rohr has called up this team on the basis of their performance in the last 2 games, right now Ezenwa is likely to get the nod..
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Fact not feelings...1naija wrote:Only 3 Nigerian captains has lifted the African Cup of Nations.Gotti wrote:Because a strong bench is just as important...1naija wrote:Why do we always argue which bench player is omitted or selected? None of those players will see action against Zambia until the game is won regardless of how they play for their clubs.
Didn’t you take comfort in Yobo coming on for the last 2 mins of our ANC 2013 games to shut up shop?
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Lemme play Devil's Advocate. Back during Rufai's time, Africa had only two world cup slots up until 94. AFCON had only eight slots which expanded to twelve slots in 92. During Enyeama's time Africa has five slots and sixteen AFCON slots. My point? It's easier to qualify today. Also, with more friendlies, additional countries joining CAF/FIFA, and new tourneys like the confed cup, there's more matches to play today so cap count will be much higher. With regards to playing pro ball, it was much more difficult back then than it is today. Any scrub gets to rush abroad at the first chances they get. Only the best got to go back then. Enyeama did win the African champs league with Enyimba though, I believe twice if I'm correct. Can someone confirm?Otitokoro wrote:**The focus here should be on National team exploits, not what he did at his club. Nonetheless, the fact of the matter is Rufai accomplished a lot more for country than Enyeama did, considering the number of caps it took to accomplish those feats.
Rufai - 65 caps (1983 - 1998) 15yrsAdisboy wrote: Based on what? Nostalgia? Because if you are talking of consistency and longevity at the highest level, no one compares to Enyeama
Enyeama = 101 caps (2002 - 2015) 13 yrs
Rufai = 1 Nations Cup (1994), 2 WC appearances (1994, 1998)Adisboy wrote:If it's trophies, individual awards/nominations still Enyeama
Enyeama = 1 Nations Cup (2013), 3 WC appearances (2002, 2010, 2014)
Foul!Adisboy wrote:The only Nigerian to competently secure the number 1 spot in a European club in Europe's top 4 leagues for at least 3 seasons in a row. Add to that the second longest clean sheet run in Ligue 1 history. So where is the comparison.
Rufai kept in Belgium, Portugal and Spain
Enyeama kept in Isreal and France
Anyways when it comes to team sports it's hard to judge based on such stats.
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Sure, Rufai was mainly a backup in these leagues, only real consist run was in Portugal. Was he ever named African PLAYER (not goalie) of the Season in any of those leagues? Or nominated multiple times for Best Goalie in the league?Otitokoro wrote:**The focus here should be on National team exploits, not what he did at his club. Nonetheless, the fact of the matter is Rufai accomplished a lot more for country than Enyeama did, considering the number of caps it took to accomplish those feats.
Rufai - 65 caps (1983 - 1998) 15yrsAdisboy wrote: Based on what? Nostalgia? Because if you are talking of consistency and longevity at the highest level, no one compares to Enyeama
Enyeama = 101 caps (2002 - 2015) 13 yrs
Rufai = 1 Nations Cup (1994), 2 WC appearances (1994, 1998)Adisboy wrote:If it's trophies, individual awards/nominations still Enyeama
Enyeama = 1 Nations Cup (2013), 3 WC appearances (2002, 2010, 2014)
Foul!Adisboy wrote:The only Nigerian to competently secure the number 1 spot in a European club in Europe's top 4 leagues for at least 3 seasons in a row. Add to that the second longest clean sheet run in Ligue 1 history. So where is the comparison.
Rufai kept in Belgium, Portugal and Spain
Enyeama kept in Isreal and France
https://www.thenational.ae/sport/footba ... d-1.248151
Or any FIFA awards?
https://www.premiumtimesng.com/sports/f ... award.html
Not to even mention Man of the Match awards in FIFA World Cup games....
I mean you guys need to stop trying to diminish Enyeama's accomplishments just because of whatever personal gripe, doesn't change the facts! Enyeama is Nigeria's best EVER goalie, and its not even close!
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That's scary!maceo4 wrote:Because Rohr called Ezenwa his 4th choice...Eaglezbeak wrote:Why would Akpeyi start?Tbite wrote:If akpeyi starts I will slap Rohr so hard he will permanently resemble a tiger.
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I agree. The closest was Emmanuel Okala. He was recognised as the best in Africa at that time (early to mid 70s). His time was unfortunately well before Africa based players were able to move to European clubs. Same situation for Segun Odegbami and Christian Chukwu.maceo4 wrote:Sure, Rufai was mainly a backup in these leagues, only real consist run was in Portugal. Was he ever named African PLAYER (not goalie) of the Season in any of those leagues? Or nominated multiple times for Best Goalie in the league?Otitokoro wrote:**The focus here should be on National team exploits, not what he did at his club. Nonetheless, the fact of the matter is Rufai accomplished a lot more for country than Enyeama did, considering the number of caps it took to accomplish those feats.
Rufai - 65 caps (1983 - 1998) 15yrsAdisboy wrote: Based on what? Nostalgia? Because if you are talking of consistency and longevity at the highest level, no one compares to Enyeama
Enyeama = 101 caps (2002 - 2015) 13 yrs
Rufai = 1 Nations Cup (1994), 2 WC appearances (1994, 1998)Adisboy wrote:If it's trophies, individual awards/nominations still Enyeama
Enyeama = 1 Nations Cup (2013), 3 WC appearances (2002, 2010, 2014)
Foul!Adisboy wrote:The only Nigerian to competently secure the number 1 spot in a European club in Europe's top 4 leagues for at least 3 seasons in a row. Add to that the second longest clean sheet run in Ligue 1 history. So where is the comparison.
Rufai kept in Belgium, Portugal and Spain
Enyeama kept in Isreal and France
https://www.thenational.ae/sport/footba ... d-1.248151
Or any FIFA awards?
https://www.premiumtimesng.com/sports/f ... award.html
Not to even mention Man of the Match awards in FIFA World Cup games....
I mean you guys need to stop trying to diminish Enyeama's accomplishments just because of whatever personal gripe, doesn't change the facts! Enyeama is Nigeria's best EVER goalie, and its not even close!
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Yes we do!!!!!!Otitokoro wrote:Yawwwnnn!
Do we have to go thru this song and dance again? Geez!Obong wrote:1naija,
Enyeama is Nigeria's best ever keeper. Period. With due respect to Yobo's commendable national career, he can't lay claim to being our best ever defender - Chukwu, Keshi , Achebe, Okechukwu Uche- will all have superior assertions. No need getting your pants all crooked. You cannot rewrite history. Yobo lifted the 2013 Cup, but he played only a bit part. Notwithstanding, he belongs in the Nigerian Hall of Fame.
Until you guys agree that Enyeama is our best keeper ever.
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Enyeama was a good goalkeeper for Nigeria but never won any trophy as the SE captain, and will never do so since he has retired and will never be made captain again. And as good as he was for Nigeria, he would not make the top 3 Nigerian keepers of all times. The fact is Okala, Rufai, Ike were all better SE goalkeeper than Vincent.Obong wrote:1naija,
Enyeama is Nigeria's best ever keeper. Period. With due respect to Yobo's commendable national career, he can't lay claim to being our best ever defender - Chukwu, Keshi , Achebe, Okechukwu Uche- will all have superior assertions. No need getting your pants all crooked. You cannot rewrite history. Yobo lifted the 2013 Cup, but he played only a bit part. Notwithstanding, he belongs in the Nigerian Hall of Fame.
I do think Vincent deserve all the praise you are giving him, but most Nigerians will remember him for his temperament than his goalkeeping, which is unfortunate.
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Rufai was the regular keeper for Hercules Alicante in the Spanish La Liga in their season in the Spanish top flight. He joined Deportivo La Coruna as back up to Songo after their relegation.
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