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Re: LIVERPOOL VS UNITED: 0-0 (FT)
Posted: Sun Oct 15, 2017 10:00 pm
by benteke
marko wrote:I dont care what anyone has to say, people talk about players in money value, when you have creative players like Pogba, hard workers like Felliani out injured, world class defenders like Bailly missing, you have to change your tactic and formation to make sure the other team does not do damage especially playing away from home, liverpool had more of the ball but they were reduced to pot shots, it eas their game to win, remember they are the ones that need the 3 points to play catch up with city and united, in context of chelsea and arsenal losing yesteray, it does not make oir point seem that bad, there are many games to be played this season, right now city are the team to beat, just hope we can get our good players baxk from injury
I agree with you there chap.
United next step is to continue dispatching small teams, i suspect City may drop shock points somewhere before December.
All we want now is to challenge, and most importantly finish comfortably in top 4.
Manchester United still has some final touches to do in the transfer market, just been watching Perisic, I think United must try to get him again if Mourinho really wants him, he is good and will make United solid.
Re: LIVERPOOL VS UNITED: 0-0 (FT)
Posted: Mon Oct 16, 2017 3:29 am
by wiseone
Parking the bus like that is asking for trouble. If Liverpool had scored, Man Utd would not have been able to get the bus moving to chase an equaliser.
Re: LIVERPOOL VS UNITED: 0-0 (FT)
Posted: Mon Oct 16, 2017 4:01 pm
by marko
Why mourinho did not start with rashford and mata? Our players were so hesistant, seems they were playing to a well rehearsed script, like i said the major key this season is to try and win all our home games especially against the lesser teams and ttry and nick points against the big teams if not win, we should finish comfortably in the top 4 this season without a doubt
Re: LIVERPOOL VS UNITED: 0-0 (FT)
Posted: Mon Oct 16, 2017 4:13 pm
by wiseone
Rashford was carrying an injury and Mata struggles in high paced, high tempo, intense games where the opposition press him (AKA games like Liverpool away).
marko wrote:Why mourinho did not start with rashford and mata? Our players were so hesistant, seems they were playing to a well rehearsed script, like i said the major key this season is to try and win all our home games especially against the lesser teams and ttry and nick points against the big teams if not win, we should finish comfortably in the top 4 this season without a doubt
Re: LIVERPOOL VS UNITED: 0-0 (FT)
Posted: Mon Oct 16, 2017 4:13 pm
by metalalloy
txj wrote:I think the real point here is, if you have a squad of 500MP, you should be able to do better than Burnley at Anfield. City also has a 500MP squad, but look at the way they played at SB...
That's why, in spite of whatever success he had at Madrid, he was fired, and is loathed there...
Keep repeating this. I've tried over and over again, but have encountered cement skulls. Blissful ignorance is a beautiful thing.
Re: LIVERPOOL VS UNITED: 0-0 (FT)
Posted: Mon Oct 16, 2017 6:47 pm
by benteke
metalalloy wrote:txj wrote:I think the real point here is, if you have a squad of 500MP, you should be able to do better than Burnley at Anfield. City also has a 500MP squad, but look at the way they played at SB...
That's why, in spite of whatever success he had at Madrid, he was fired, and is loathed there...
Keep repeating this. I've tried over and over again, but have encountered cement skulls. Blissful ignorance is a beautiful thing.
Let's forget these current over inflated transfer fees for once, how many times did Alex Ferguson's United go to Anfield and attack the highlights out of Liverpool.
From what i remember this has always been a very tricky fixture for United, a very big game where Liverpool is always up for it. One time they embarrassed United 3-0 when they were being coached by Dalglish in his 2nd stint.
I think it was a decent outing, nothing t shout about, but enough.
Re: LIVERPOOL VS UNITED: 0-0 (FT)
Posted: Mon Oct 16, 2017 7:44 pm
by marko
Much ado about nothing, liverpool needed the 3 points more than united, in the scheme of things, a point was just fine, i just hope we get all our injured players back, we need our best 11against the top teams
If felliani was fit, he would have added a different threat to oir team
Re: LIVERPOOL VS UNITED: 0-0 (FT)
Posted: Mon Oct 16, 2017 10:27 pm
by benteke
txj wrote:I think the real point here is, if you have a squad of 500MP, you should be able to do better than Burnley at Anfield. City also has a 500MP squad, but look at the way they played at SB...
That's why, in spite of whatever success he had at Madrid, he was fired, and is loathed there...
But Mourinho teams hold the records for team goals scored in EPL and La Liga.
The problem is to hire a manager with a certain style and expect him to play the Madrid or Barcelona way.
Capello also delivered some underwhelming stuff for Madrid.
A quick question, do you think Conte can be a good fit with Barcelona playing style.
That's where the issues arise in my opinion. When United got Mourinho i imagine they were ready to win trophies by all means, and with the occasional good footie from Mourinho, but not expecting a festival of football every weekend
Re: LIVERPOOL VS UNITED: 0-0 (FT)
Posted: Tue Oct 17, 2017 3:55 pm
by metalalloy
Re: LIVERPOOL VS UNITED: 0-0 (FT)
Posted: Tue Oct 17, 2017 4:10 pm
by analyzer
benteke wrote:txj wrote:I think the real point here is, if you have a squad of 500MP, you should be able to do better than Burnley at Anfield. City also has a 500MP squad, but look at the way they played at SB...
That's why, in spite of whatever success he had at Madrid, he was fired, and is loathed there...
But Mourinho teams hold the records for team goals scored in EPL and La Liga.
Maybe La Liga, but definitely NOT EPL except you explaining something different.
As for playing style especially vs. top teams, I can't in good conscience bash it because I also defended it when he coached CFC. But to see certain Man U fans now turn hypocrites by defending the same playing style they bashed while he coached CFC is just laughable..
Re: LIVERPOOL VS UNITED: 0-0 (FT)
Posted: Tue Oct 17, 2017 4:13 pm
by danfo driver
analyzer wrote:benteke wrote:txj wrote:I think the real point here is, if you have a squad of 500MP, you should be able to do better than Burnley at Anfield. City also has a 500MP squad, but look at the way they played at SB...
That's why, in spite of whatever success he had at Madrid, he was fired, and is loathed there...
But Mourinho teams hold the records for team goals scored in EPL and La Liga.
Maybe La Liga, but definitely NOT EPL except you explaining something different.
As for playing style especially vs. top teams, I can't in good conscience bash it because I also defended it when he coached CFC. But to see certain Man U fans now turn hypocrites by defending the same playing style they bashed while he coached CFC is just laughable..
Look at this one with his yellow pawpaw face! Did you also defend it two weeks ago when your club was humiliated in front of stamford bridge fans? playing 7 defenders at home and camping in your 18 yard box, as Man City foooked you like a cheap ugly whore??
And people wonder why Chelsea fans are becoming more hated than Arsenal fans. You think we dont know how you won your title last year? parking the bus like a scared puppy and then at home, just two weeks ago, camping inside your box, afraid to come out! AT HOMEEEE!!
for your information:
United -- 21 goals
Chelsea - 13 goals
FACT!!! I KNOW WHICH TEAM IS DEFENSIVE!
Re: LIVERPOOL VS UNITED: 0-0 (FT)
Posted: Tue Oct 17, 2017 4:25 pm
by metalalloy
Re: LIVERPOOL VS UNITED: 0-0 (FT)
Posted: Tue Oct 17, 2017 5:42 pm
by The YeyeMan
Interesting that Mourinho is already fluttering his eyes at PSG and refusing to commit to United in the long-term...
Re: LIVERPOOL VS UNITED: 0-0 (FT)
Posted: Tue Oct 17, 2017 5:49 pm
by analyzer
Re: LIVERPOOL VS UNITED: 0-0 (FT)
Posted: Tue Oct 17, 2017 6:22 pm
by benteke
analyzer wrote:benteke wrote:txj wrote:I think the real point here is, if you have a squad of 500MP, you should be able to do better than Burnley at Anfield. City also has a 500MP squad, but look at the way they played at SB...
That's why, in spite of whatever success he had at Madrid, he was fired, and is loathed there...
But Mourinho teams hold the records for team goals scored in EPL and La Liga.
Maybe La Liga, but definitely NOT EPL except you explaining something different.
As for playing style especially vs. top teams, I can't in good conscience bash it because I also defended it when he coached CFC.
But to see certain Man U fans now turn hypocrites by defending the same playing style they bashed while he coached CFC is just laughable..
Maybe you are talking about someone else who is a Man United fan, I was not part of the bashing when Mourinho was at Chelsea.
When he rumours started circulating about Mourinho replacing Van Gaal i did mention that United fans will be getting used to the the Mourinho style, which will be fine as long as he is winning things.
I think i used to defend Mourinho because when he won the league with Chelsea, his team was playing great football until after January or something.
I see nothing wrong with winning at all costs, I've never criticised it.
Re: LIVERPOOL VS UNITED: 0-0 (FT)
Posted: Tue Oct 17, 2017 7:18 pm
by marko
Mourinho is a safety first coach, maybe if he had Pogba and felliani at his disposal, it would have been a differnt game, Pogba is indeed a special player and he makes our midfield so differnt, this season, he has already banged in a few, even felliani is having the best season of his life, then both end up injured, well our squad should be able to handle this, we still have Matic, mata and herrera who can perform a decent job, even carrick is out injured, our defence seems to be solid, we have only conceeded 2 goals this season, we just have to continue winning against th lower sides and especially at home and hope th likes of Pogba and felliani come back from injury
Re: LIVERPOOL VS UNITED: 0-0 (FT)
Posted: Tue Oct 17, 2017 8:40 pm
by tfco
Re: LIVERPOOL VS UNITED: 0-0 (FT)
Posted: Tue Oct 17, 2017 8:44 pm
by tfco
if i ask you to provide proof....hmmm
Re: LIVERPOOL VS UNITED: 0-0 (FT)
Posted: Tue Oct 17, 2017 11:34 pm
by analyzer
Re: LIVERPOOL VS UNITED: 0-0 (FT)
Posted: Wed Oct 18, 2017 12:06 am
by benteke
I meant that the record for the most league goals scored in one La Liga season is held by Real Madrid and that happened when Mourinho was the coach at Madrid.
For some reason i thought it was Mourinho' coached Chelsea team that holds a similar record in the EPL, but looks like got mixed up with some other record that his team broke when he was the coach.
Re: LIVERPOOL VS UNITED: 0-0 (FT)
Posted: Wed Oct 18, 2017 12:24 am
by danfo driver
