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No surprises here. Picnic only like foreign stuff!



The local coaches have been crap

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Waldrum to replace Omagbemi as Nigeria women's boss
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Randy Waldrum previously managed Trinidad and Tobago's national women's team.

American Randy Waldrum has been appointed as the Technical Adviser of the Nigeria women's team.

The 61-year-old replaces Florence Omagbemi, whose contract expired after leading the Super Falcons to an eighth women's continental title last year.

Waldrum managed Trinidad & Tobago's women's side between 2014 and 2016, and his appointment is subject to contract terms being agreed with the Nigeria Football Federation (NFF).

He was fired as coach of the Houston Dash women's football team in May.

His immediate task will be to secure a qualifying spot and retain their continental title at the 2018 Africa Women Cup of Nations in Ghana.

But Waldrum's biggest challenge will be to seal qualification for the 2019 Fifa Women's World Cup in France - in what could be Nigeria's eighth record appearance at the tournament.

Despite being one of the 10 names on Fifa's list for Women's Coach of the year, former Nigeria captain Omagbemi was 'shocked and surprised' after she was not reconsidered for the job.

Nigeria are the only African team to have played in all Fifa Women's World Cup tournaments since 1991.

But they have failed to translate their continental dominance on the world stage, as their best performance came in the USA in 1999 when they reached the quarter-finals.

http://www.bbc.com/sport/football/41707242


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1naija wrote:
ikemba wrote:
No surprises here. Picnic only like foreign stuff!



The local coaches have been crap


:agree:

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Sir V wrote:
1naija wrote:
ikemba wrote:
No surprises here. Picnic only like foreign stuff!

The local coaches have been crap

:agree:

Exactly! Our ‘crappy’ local coaches only won the AWC 12 times and qualified us for EVERY WWC...
Need to “step up” to coaches fired in the Caribbean and cannot hold a prof job in their own countries. SMDH

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Sir V wrote:
1naija wrote:
ikemba wrote:
No surprises here. Picnic only like foreign stuff!

The local coaches have been crap

:agree:

BTW, the Falcons’ WORST-EVER performance in the WWC was under FOREIGN coach Jo Bonfrere... :roll:

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Gotti wrote:
Sir V wrote:
1naija wrote:
ikemba wrote:
No surprises here. Picnic only like foreign stuff!

The local coaches have been crap

:agree:

Exactly! Our ‘crappy’ local coaches only won the AWC 12 times and qualified us for EVERY WWC...
Need to “step up” to coaches fired in the Caribbean and cannot hold a prof job in their own countries. SMDH



Have you watched an AWC game? Any coach, foreign or local can win a tournament with such games. Our goal is to win the WC or even do well at the tournament, not to just make up the numbers.

BTW, this is not an endorsement of this new coach whom I know nothing about. But I believe in firing our way to success, so if he fails he should be fired immediately.

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It's a terrible shame that Nigeria would not give this lady a chance to show what she can do and have settled for somebody, anybody that's not black. The problems facing the Nigerian women is not just coaching but planning and resources. If you look at every continent except Africa, especially Europe, N. America and Australia, they are putting their women thru all kinds of development programs and playing friendly tournaments. African women do not have these opportunities and this is what the focus of the FF should be. Where, O where, is their creativity? It would be interesting to see what he's getting paid compared to Omagbemi. Maybe, just maybe, he can show the NFF what real planning is and maybe that would be of some help.

My other feeling is this. Several years ago when the issue of an FC for the men's team was being discussed, some of the women insisted that they also should have an FC. Just wondering of Omagbemi was one of them. We've always warned pro-FC's that it could come back to haunt you one of these days.
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1naija wrote:
Gotti wrote:
Sir V wrote:
1naija wrote:
ikemba wrote:
No surprises here. Picnic only like foreign stuff!

The local coaches have been crap

:agree:

Exactly! Our ‘crappy’ local coaches only won the AWC 12 times and qualified us for EVERY WWC...
Need to “step up” to coaches fired in the Caribbean and cannot hold a prof job in their own countries. SMDH

Have you watched an AWC game? Any coach, foreign or local can win a tournament with such games. Our goal is to win the WC or even do well at the tournament, not to just make up the numbers.

BTW, this is not an endorsement of this new coach whom I know nothing about. But I believe in firing our way to success, so if he fails he should be fired immediately.

Well, under FOREIGN coach Jo Bonfrere we did even WORSE than “just make up the numbers” at the WWC....

When a coach is proven ‘crap’ then replace that individual coach with someone else - not condemn the entire nationality of that coach (let’s not even note that the coach being replaced did NOT lose a single game and won the continental championship - while being owed NINE MONTHS’ salary and losing both his father and a son during her tenure of involuntarily-unpaid service to Nigeria). After all, the fact that Bonfrere crapped with the Falcons at the WWC apparently have not condemned nor precluded the entirety of foreign coaches from consideration for the Falcons coaching job.

BTW, this is not a condemnation of the appointment of this particular new foreign coach, whom I know nothing about and thus will evaluate and judge as an INDIVIDUAL coach based on his individual results and performance with the Falcons.

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 22, 2017 12:52 pm 
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Bell wrote:
MIXED FEELINGS HERE


It's a terrible shame that Nigeria would not give this lady a chance to show what she can do and have settled for somebody, anybody that's not black. The problems facing the Nigerian women is not just coaching but planning and resources. If you look at every continent except Africa, especially Europe, N. America and Australia, they are putting their women thru all kinds of development programs and playing friendly tournaments. African women do not have these opportunities and this is what the focus of the FF should be. Where, O where, is their creativity? It would be interesting to see what he's getting paid compared to Omagbemi. Maybe, just maybe, he can show the NFF what real planning is and maybe that would be of some help.

Getting paid? An indigenous coach? Are you for reals? :D

Bros, from what I can recall, Florence Omagbemi was NOT paid a dime (reportedly not even camp allowances) from her appointment in March or April 2016 for the entire NINE-MONTH period of her tenure up to winning the AWC against a tough host team in Cameroon. One can only hopevthat she has since been settled (one still recalls the disgraceful sight of our continental championship-winning Falcons marching through the streets of Abuja, not in triumph but rather in protest for the non-payment of agreed-upon allowances and bonuses), because during the period of her service to the Fatherland she reportedly lost her father, and then her son/nephew shortly thereafter! Nonetheless, like you I am somewhat conflicted - because it appears that when foreign coaches come on board, our inept and clueless administrators tend to step up a little bit more. SMDH

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1naija wrote:
Have you watched an AWC game? Any coach, foreign or local can win a tournament with such games. Our goal is to win the WC or even do well at the tournament, not to just make up the numbers.

BTW, this is not an endorsement of this new coach whom I know nothing about. But I believe in firing our way to success, so if he fails he should be fired immediately.

Bros, if our goal is really “to win the WWC or even do well at the tournament” then how many friendlies of any kind did the NFF organize in the almost NINE MONTHS between our qualification for the last WWC (by wining the 2014 AWC in Namibia) and the WWC 2015 in Canada, despite promising to organize friendlies with “top” countries? Let me help you - ZERO!!! In fact, even when the Falcons were invited to an invitational tournament in Australia that had many other WWC 2015 teams, the same NFF claimed that it could not raise a team to prosecute same. Yep, sounds just like a country intent on winning the WWC. SMDH

Anyway, we are talking about a country and federation that when Amunike complained about the inadequacy of preparations (and resources to prepare) for the 2015 world U17 was admonished that the U23 team won the U23 AFCON (and thus qualified for the 2016 Rio Olympics) with very shambolic preparations (if any at all). Unfortunately, Amunike did the WORST possible thing under the circumstances - he went to Chile and won the world championship!

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How Foreign is he; is he really a 'foreign coach' per say just because he is from the US especially given that US isn't really a Nation you put on your list of footballing nation until lately. My point is evident in the way thread starter hid the coach under the subject - foreign coach

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MIXED FEELINGS HERE


It's a terrible shame that Nigeria would not give this lady a chance to show what she can do and have settled for somebody, anybody that's not black. The problems facing the Nigerian women is not just coaching but planning and resources. If you look at every continent except Africa, especially Europe, N. America and Australia, they are putting their women thru all kinds of development programs and playing friendly tournaments. African women do not have these opportunities and this is what the focus of the FF should be. Where, O where, is their creativity? It would be interesting to see what he's getting paid compared to Omagbemi. Maybe, just maybe, he can show the NFF what real planning is and maybe that would be of some help.

Getting paid? An indigenous coach? Are you for reals? :D

Bros, from what I can recall, Florence Omagbemi was NOT paid a dime (reportedly not even camp allowances) from her appointment in March or April 2016 for the entire NINE-MONTH period of her tenure up to winning the AWC against a tough host team in Cameroon. One can only hopevthat she has since been settled (one still recalls the disgraceful sight of our continental championship-winning Falcons marching through the streets of Abuja, not in triumph but rather in protest for the non-payment of agreed-upon allowances and bonuses), because during the period of her service to the Fatherland she reportedly lost her father, and then her son/nephew shortly thereafter! Nonetheless, like you I am somewhat conflicted - because it appears that when foreign coaches come on board, our inept and clueless administrators tend to step up a little bit more. SMDH


FOR A WHILE...

...I thought the absence of African teams in the frequent get togethers involving mostly European and American teams (less frequently Asian) was a cliquish kind of a thing. Now it is looking like it could have more to do with traditional FF incompetence. In a related performance, it was the same FF that failed to plan for winning bonuses for historically the best African team in nearby Cameroon allegedly because they didn't think they would win. Not after the group stage, the semi-finals nor the finals.
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He was recently fired by the Houston dash for poor performance.


Do you think if he was any good, he'll come to Africa?
we take the junk from the west

One of Ghana's national team coaches was a PE teacher in Serbia



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You mean to tell me a PE teacher outdid all tihe coaches in ghana????? No b eem fault!!!!!!!!

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Bell wrote:
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It's a terrible shame that Nigeria would not give this lady a chance to show what she can do and have settled for somebody, anybody that's not black. The problems facing the Nigerian women is not just coaching but planning and resources. If you look at every continent except Africa, especially Europe, N. America and Australia, they are putting their women thru all kinds of development programs and playing friendly tournaments. African women do not have these opportunities and this is what the focus of the FF should be. Where, O where, is their creativity? It would be interesting to see what he's getting paid compared to Omagbemi. Maybe, just maybe, he can show the NFF what real planning is and maybe that would be of some help.

My other feeling is this. Several years ago when the issue of an FC for the men's team was being discussed, some of the women insisted that they also should have an FC. Just wondering of Omagbemi was one of them. We've always warned pro-FC's that it could come back to haunt you one of these days.
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Won't b a surprise or reason uf foreign based chicks choose to stay away instead of using the opps ( to play).

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It's a terrible shame that Nigeria would not give this lady a chance to show what she can do and have settled for somebody, anybody that's not black. The problems facing the Nigerian women is not just coaching but planning and resources. If you look at every continent except Africa, especially Europe, N. America and Australia, they are putting their women thru all kinds of development programs and playing friendly tournaments. African women do not have these opportunities and this is what the focus of the FF should be. Where, O where, is their creativity? It would be interesting to see what he's getting paid compared to Omagbemi. Maybe, just maybe, he can show the NFF what real planning is and maybe that would be of some help.

My other feeling is this. Several years ago when the issue of an FC for the men's team was being discussed, some of the women insisted that they also should have an FC. Just wondering of Omagbemi was one of them. We've always warned pro-FC's that it could come back to haunt you one of these days.
Bell




Won't b a surprise or reason uf foreign based chicks choose to stay away instead of using the opps ( to play).


PERSONALLY...

...I think the foreign based players would be eager to participate in these prestigious tournaments, FF incompetence notwithstanding.
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Waldrum to replace Omagbemi as Nigeria women's boss
By Oluwashina Okeleji
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Randy Waldrum previously managed Trinidad and Tobago's national women's team.

American Randy Waldrum has been appointed as the Technical Adviser of the Nigeria women's team.

The 61-year-old replaces Florence Omagbemi, whose contract expired after leading the Super Falcons to an eighth women's continental title last year.

Waldrum managed Trinidad & Tobago's women's side between 2014 and 2016, and his appointment is subject to contract terms being agreed with the Nigeria Football Federation (NFF).

He was fired as coach of the Houston Dash women's football team in May.

His immediate task will be to secure a qualifying spot and retain their continental title at the 2018 Africa Women Cup of Nations in Ghana.

But Waldrum's biggest challenge will be to seal qualification for the 2019 Fifa Women's World Cup in France - in what could be Nigeria's eighth record appearance at the tournament.

Despite being one of the 10 names on Fifa's list for Women's Coach of the year, former Nigeria captain Omagbemi was 'shocked and surprised' after she was not reconsidered for the job.

Nigeria are the only African team to have played in all Fifa Women's World Cup tournaments since 1991.

But they have failed to translate their continental dominance on the world stage, as their best performance came in the USA in 1999 when they reached the quarter-finals.

http://www.bbc.com/sport/football/41707242


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