I'm beginning to see an emerging plan with Rohr's team
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I'm beginning to see an emerging plan with Rohr's team
I think or I'm rather inclined to believe that Rohr is building a solid DEFENSIVELY cohesive team first before fan-tuning the team orchestra into an all round team. And that's why much of the playing structure is emphasized on attacking more from behind with diagonal passes sent out wild to our wingers, that explains why our width is particularly very strong judging from the players(Victor Moses,Simon, Onyekuru, Nwakaeme, Musa,Bazee, even Iwobi)...majority of our goals scored in the qualifiers came that the width,and the build up and transitioning sequence all came from the defensive phase...even our forwards like Moses, Ighalo, Simon tracked back to defend whenever we were on the back foot( 3 of our goals against Cameroon came from a fast defense )to attack team play. Its clear Rohr isn't much of a fan of attacking football from the middle,and that will explain why he has built the core of his midfield around mostly CDM's like Onazi, Ndidi, Ogu, Agu, with the exception of Mikel seems to play a more advanced role even though we know Mikel is best suited for the deep playmaking role; in all the primary goal of a good coach is to find a way to concede less goals first...and that is what Rohr seems to have achieved so far, yet we have maintained a good scoring record so far.
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^^ Are you just figuring this out?
In addition to this, to be a more well rounded team we also need to be able to possess the ball, press the opposition. I have only seen us do this against Tanzania and South Africa and it was not too successful. The best form of defence is attack or the possession game. We turn over the ball too easily for my liking. In reality you cannot only rely on counter attacking although it is a more realistic way of playing to get results.
In addition to this, to be a more well rounded team we also need to be able to possess the ball, press the opposition. I have only seen us do this against Tanzania and South Africa and it was not too successful. The best form of defence is attack or the possession game. We turn over the ball too easily for my liking. In reality you cannot only rely on counter attacking although it is a more realistic way of playing to get results.
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Defense has been our problem ever since we started qualifying for the wc. The 94 team was a little better but our inability to stop the top teams from scoring cheap goals has always been our undoing. Rohr knows that it’s still our problem. I see this SE grinding out results instead of dazzling opponents. We need to win the 1-0 games!
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Very good points, Tobi17.
Rohr is very smart to focus on consolidating our defensive capabilities because except for Keshi's tenure, that has been our Achilles heel for a long time. I am confident that this team will get a result against Argentina (and other attacking South American sides) if we meet them again at the WC.
The midfield possession, attacking game is very hard to sustain and very hard to maintain defensive solidity while doing it, because the two are related. In such a system, possession of the ball becomes the primary mode of defense (ala Spain and Barcelona). That is why there are only a few teams that can do it very well. Argentina thought they could play like that for many years but they just did not have the top-to-bottom quality to pull it off, which is why they were successful against teams like Nigeria, Greece, Mexico etc at the WC, but once they come up against teams that have the quality to hurt them, they are hurt really bad.
So Rohr is being very clever and our potential is likely to be maximized next year at the WC. We will not be giving up many soft goals with this man at the helm, and we will hurt some teams very badly (I am looking at you, Argentina).
Rohr is very smart to focus on consolidating our defensive capabilities because except for Keshi's tenure, that has been our Achilles heel for a long time. I am confident that this team will get a result against Argentina (and other attacking South American sides) if we meet them again at the WC.
The midfield possession, attacking game is very hard to sustain and very hard to maintain defensive solidity while doing it, because the two are related. In such a system, possession of the ball becomes the primary mode of defense (ala Spain and Barcelona). That is why there are only a few teams that can do it very well. Argentina thought they could play like that for many years but they just did not have the top-to-bottom quality to pull it off, which is why they were successful against teams like Nigeria, Greece, Mexico etc at the WC, but once they come up against teams that have the quality to hurt them, they are hurt really bad.
So Rohr is being very clever and our potential is likely to be maximized next year at the WC. We will not be giving up many soft goals with this man at the helm, and we will hurt some teams very badly (I am looking at you, Argentina).
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Defense has always been most teams problem otherwise they won't be losing matchesEMIR KONGI JAFFI JOFFA wrote:Defense has been our problem ever since we started qualifying for the wc. The 94 team was a little better but our inability to stop the top teams from scoring cheap goals has always been our undoing. Rohr knows that it’s still our problem. I see this SE grinding out results instead of dazzling opponents. We need to win the 1-0 games!
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Our has been really bad. Too many cheap goals.pajimoh wrote:Defense has always been most teams problem otherwise they won't be losing matchesEMIR KONGI JAFFI JOFFA wrote:Defense has been our problem ever since we started qualifying for the wc. The 94 team was a little better but our inability to stop the top teams from scoring cheap goals has always been our undoing. Rohr knows that it’s still our problem. I see this SE grinding out results instead of dazzling opponents. We need to win the 1-0 games!
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The truth is that is the way Rohr plays. He did that with previous teams that he coached. I actually wrote about this in my blog when he was hired.
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Then major kudos must go to the people who sought him out and hired him, for identifying our problems and hiring the right man to address them.Enugu II wrote:The truth is that is the way Rohr plays. He did that with previous teams that he coached. I actually wrote about this in my blog when he was hired.
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Kindly provide me the link.Enugu II wrote:The truth is that is the way Rohr plays. He did that with previous teams that he coached. I actually wrote about this in my blog when he was hired.
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Bros, Rohr fell into our lap after the Le Guen fella that those "people" wanted fashi-ed us...Scipio Africanus wrote:Then major kudos must go to the people who sought him out and hired him, for identifying our problems and hiring the right man to address them.Enugu II wrote:The truth is that is the way Rohr plays. He did that with previous teams that he coached. I actually wrote about this in my blog when he was hired.
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Gotti wrote:Bros, Rohr fell into our lap after the Le Guen fella that those "people" wanted fashi-ed us...Scipio Africanus wrote:Then major kudos must go to the people who sought him out and hired him, for identifying our problems and hiring the right man to address them.Enugu II wrote:The truth is that is the way Rohr plays. He did that with previous teams that he coached. I actually wrote about this in my blog when he was hired.
. It was a good accidental hiring by the still inept Pinnick
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ikemba wrote:Gotti wrote:Bros, Rohr fell into our lap after the Le Guen fella that those "people" wanted fashi-ed us...Scipio Africanus wrote:Then major kudos must go to the people who sought him out and hired him, for identifying our problems and hiring the right man to address them.Enugu II wrote:The truth is that is the way Rohr plays. He did that with previous teams that he coached. I actually wrote about this in my blog when he was hired.
. It was a good accidental hiring by the still inept gotten Pinnick
Where is le Guen now? The oloriburuku woulda gotten us knocked outta the wc even before Ghana. Oloshi.
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Then thanks must go to divine providence. Doubly so as Le Guen is no one's idea of a good coach.Gotti wrote:Bros, Rohr fell into our lap after the Le Guen fella that those "people" wanted fashi-ed us...Scipio Africanus wrote:Then major kudos must go to the people who sought him out and hired him, for identifying our problems and hiring the right man to address them.Enugu II wrote:The truth is that is the way Rohr plays. He did that with previous teams that he coached. I actually wrote about this in my blog when he was hired.
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Here you go (Enjoy!):proclaimjesus02 wrote:Kindly provide me the link.Enugu II wrote:The truth is that is the way Rohr plays. He did that with previous teams that he coached. I actually wrote about this in my blog when he was hired.
http://eaglecity.blogspot.com/2016/08/r ... eting.html
http://eaglecity.blogspot.com/2016/08/p ... hr-as.html
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Re: I'm beginning to see an emerging plan with Rohr's team
Simply and short: Rohr prefers 2 ball winners operating in a middle trio behind a creative midfielder to provide balance. He likes wingers that are creative but also hard working and his #9 is more of a focal point - bringing others into play and helping retain possession upfront - than an attacker. It's about balance and control with regards to Rohr.Tobi17 wrote:I think or I'm rather inclined to believe that Rohr is building a solid DEFENSIVELY cohesive team first before fan-tuning the team orchestra into an all round team. And that's why much of the playing structure is emphasized on attacking more from behind with diagonal passes sent out wild to our wingers, that explains why our width is particularly very strong judging from the players(Victor Moses,Simon, Onyekuru, Nwakaeme, Musa,Bazee, even Iwobi)...majority of our goals scored in the qualifiers came that the width,and the build up and transitioning sequence all came from the defensive phase...even our forwards like Moses, Ighalo, Simon tracked back to defend whenever we were on the back foot( 3 of our goals against Cameroon came from a fast defense )to attack team play. Its clear Rohr isn't much of a fan of attacking football from the middle,and that will explain why he has built the core of his midfield around mostly CDM's like Onazi, Ndidi, Ogu, Agu, with the exception of Mikel seems to play a more advanced role even though we know Mikel is best suited for the deep playmaking role; in all the primary goal of a good coach is to find a way to concede less goals first...and that is what Rohr seems to have achieved so far, yet we have maintained a good scoring record so far.
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Rohrs strategy is balance. He is molding a team both strong in defence as in attack. In attack he prefers the half field counter and to execute this he has ball winners at the base and a 3 man attacking midfield. In defence the wingers fall back creating a 3 man midfield defense. Mikel plays a libero role. Playing mostly at the central attack.
His problem has been to find a striker that can play the lone striker position on the counter or be a box player.
His problem has been to find a striker that can play the lone striker position on the counter or be a box player.