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1. So I see our boy has scored again today, while Musa is nowhere to be found even as a bench warmer.

2. I have to ask this question. What is Gerhnot Rohr's beef with Henry Onyekuru ? Do you know that he would not even have been called up to the last squad had Simon Moses and Victor Moses not been injured.

3. It was criminal to give him only 20 minutes of these past 2 matches on a bumpy pitch in Algeria, where our team was playing disjointed football. Even at that he showed how dangerous he can be.

4. WHat does Rohr have against Onyekuru ? Scouts from all the big teams in Europe are talking about our boy yet Rohr would rather give minutes to a 28 year old wastepipe who is playing in Israel, or a headless chicken who doesn't even know what his club's bench feels like.

5. There has been all sorts of speculation that Onyekuru is not doing well in camp. There were even reports that he played poorly against the French regional side we played. From the highlights I remember ONyekuru having one or two vicious shots at the keeper and running at their defence.

6. If Rohr thinks Onyekuru is not good enough, let him field the player for 90 minutes in our next friendly and let him speak for himself.

7. As we have seen with Ebuehi, it seems that Rohr's judgement on talent is off. All along I was thinking Ebuehi was not SE material because Rohr had no faith in him. I put it to you that the same thing is going on with ONyekuru.

8. I like Rohr as a coach, but his major downfall is that he is far too conservative and he does not have the balls to choose new players who are showing themselves to be better than the devil that he knows.

9. This could be our undoing in Russia. Rohr needs to grow a pair or learn how to spot talent.

10. The preference of Musa over Onyekuru throughout Rohr's entire career, even in meaningless friendlies, IS ABSOLUTELY CRIMINAL AND NEGLIGENT.
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Rohr is Musas agent, simple :winking:
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maceo4 wrote:Rohr is Musas agent, simple :winking:
Why not shut your mouth look like a fool than open it and prove beyond every reasonable doubt that you are definitely a fool
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Same goes for his love affairs with Akpeyi, Ezenwa and Echiejile. He picked them over the more talented Uzoho, Aina and Idowu. Do you know that the word from camp was that before the Cameroon games, Dele Ajiboye was actually the best goalkeeper in camp but alas, Rohr was fixated on Akpeyi. When Akpeyi got injured, he turned his attentions on to Ezenwa.

I put it to all of you here today that Dele Ajiboye and Dele Alampasu would perform better then Ezenwa and Akpeyi if given the opportunity by Rohr. For me, there is only one solution to this - We have to revive the Mama Calabar Technical Committee to act as a restraining influence on Rohr. His excesses are deciding a bit too much these days.

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Thankfully Rohr doesn't care about the views of Vancity Eagle and Ayo Akinfe.
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Onyekuru was given a chance against corsica he failed to impress. He was given another chance against Algeria and was just okay. When you’re inexperienced, new in a team you have to take full advantage of our chances. Time is not on your side because the coach doesn’t know about you. Me personally I wouldn’t drop experienced Ahmed Musa for inexperienced Onyekuru because I have seen many inexperienced Nigeria players flatter to deceive then perform woefully at the big stage. You know exactly what you’re getting with your experienced guys. Onyekuru should continue working hard. His only 19 he has a bright future ahead of him. As for you agents, touts, clients etc your plan is not going to work this year. Every time we qualify for World Cup you guys seem to receive money behind the scenes to promote your clients. You guys have no integrity and would sell your country for some coins. Ndi ori! I can vividly remember these nonsense promotions that was done in 2002 when inexperienced players like ogbeche, opabunmi, obiora, afolabi was promoted ahead of our experienced finidi, oruma, Oliseh. Those aforementioned players failed to perform at the big stage and was just flash in the pan. You agents continued this nonsense in 2014 when the likes of uchebo, azeez, Reuben, ameobi was hyped week in and out prior to that World Cup. Azeez especially ( I was convinced he paid someone money) those guys once again performed woefully. This time you idiots are very disrespectful and cannot even respect the coach. Our fvcking coach conquered the group of death without losing any game, we just beat another world class team. Yet, people can’t respect the coach decision. You fools are really getting on my nerves it’s pissing me the Fock off.
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You goat! How many people was suggesting Ebuehie when shehu was putting MOM performances? You want to negate shehu MOM performance because of Ebuehie impressive 2nd half?? Ebuehie btw was given a chance against Corsica and the coach decided what was best at that point. Onyekuru has been given 2 chances to perform and was just okay. When you’re inexperienced and new with many competitors in your position you have to take advantage of the few minutes that you’re given. Onyekuru should continue performing for his club. The coach has earned the right to call him or not call him. Respect the coach you agents, clients.
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Rohr is a coach and a tactician, not a xbox FIFA 18 player. So when he selects a player he is looking at a player from the context of how he wants to set up his team tactically and how he wants the player deployed.

All the noise you are making about Ebuehi, it was Rohr who actually went to seek him out and persisted with him to switch allegiance. Rohr know what every player can do and uses them depending on how he sees fit. He had Ogu on the bench for a while and at the right time used he when he needed to.

You guys are rambling on like he has frozen Onyekuru out of the team.. For all his exploits in the league, the SE shirt still weighs a bit heavy on him. Like everyone else, come march he will be given a fair chance to fight for a shirt.
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Mr Shows wrote:Rohr is a coach and a tactician, not a xbox FIFA 18 player. So when he selects a player he is looking at a player from the context of how he wants to set up his team tactically and how he wants the player deployed.

All the noise you are making about Ebuehi, it was Rohr who actually went to seek him out and persisted with him to switch allegiance. Rohr know what every player can do and uses them depending on how he sees fit. He had Ogu on the bench for a while and at the right time used he when he needed to.

You guys are rambling on like he has frozen Onyekuru out of the team.. For all his exploits in the league, the SE shirt still weighs a bit heavy on him. Like everyone else, come march he will be given a fair chance to fight for a shirt.
No one would have a problem with Onyekuru being benched for say Victor Moses but for Ahmed Musa who is not even in the Leicester City squad, that is another matter. Likewise, if we had a Chidi Odiah keeping Ebuehi out, no one would mind.
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Why don't you people grow a brain and stop thinking there's a beef or some money making scheme at play? As old as you people are you keep sining the same tune regardless of who is managing the team. It shows you lack respect or critical thinking.

Let the manager do his job and invite whom he wants and can fit into his system. When you people get to become the coach of The Super Eagles then you can invite anyone you want
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Don’t mind those agents. That van city guy did the same nonsense with Azeez in 2014. Azeez was promoted on this site numerous times. In fact, Keshy was accused of bribery for not calling Azeez. Azeez finally received his World Cup appearance only to flop. Now, they have forgotten about him. This is a guy that should had been given time to get accustomed to the team then should be having a prosperous SE career. They want to overhype a 19th year old talented guy only for him to be pressurized then flop. Afterwards, his SE career would be over. I have seen situations like this happen here numerous times. Onyekuru should wait his time will come. They shouldn’t rush him. Currently, we’re not lacking at his department. We have proven players at his position so while he would be a decent addition his not necessarily a need. Btw, Onyekuru has already been given 2 chances.
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If you cannot respect a coach that conquered the group of death by 6 point and no loss and just won a world class team only because your clients are paying you money then You’re a cretin. This criminals would sell their country for some rice
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pajimoh wrote:Why don't you people grow a brain and stop thinking there's a beef or some money making scheme at play? As old as you people are you keep sining the same tune regardless of who is managing the team. It shows you lack respect or critical thinking.

Let the manager do his job and invite whom he wants and can fit into his system. When you people get to become the coach of The Super Eagles then you can invite anyone you want

Football is the game it is today because of the fans. Take the fans out of the sport and you have nothing.

Have you ever watched a match played behind closed doors before? If you have ever been to a game in an empty stadium before you will not be so contemptuous of the fans.

It is the fans who buy tickets, jerseys, memorabilia, cheer the teams along and generate the positive atmosphere around the players. We the fans will not sit back and allow any individual to ruin our team with his personal biases. In a democracy, the participation of the electorate is compulsory, so Gernot Rohr will hear from us big time!
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No, rohr has earned our trust. He shouldn’t be compelled to listen to people that have personal profit from players.
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Ayo Akinfe wrote:
pajimoh wrote:Why don't you people grow a brain and stop thinking there's a beef or some money making scheme at play? As old as you people are you keep sining the same tune regardless of who is managing the team. It shows you lack respect or critical thinking.

Let the manager do his job and invite whom he wants and can fit into his system. When you people get to become the coach of The Super Eagles then you can invite anyone you want

Football is the game it is today because of the fans. Take the fans out of the game and you have no game.

Have you ever watched a match played behind closed doors before? If you have ever been to a game in an empty stadium before you will not be so contemptuous of the fans.

It is the fans who buy tickets, jerseys, memorabilia, cheer yet team along and generate the positive atmosphere around the players. We the fans will not sit back and allow any individual to ruin our team with his personal biases. In s democracy, the participation of the electorate is compulsory, so Gernot Rohr will hear from us big time!
That does not mean fans should constantly display a level of stupidity at every turn. When Keshi was there, it was brown envelope and agent accusation, same CCC, same SSS, in fact every manager has been accused of the same thing and why? because he did not invite or invited someone the fans think he has no business of being there.

I remember some wanted Musa out of the last WC because he could not cross to save his life. But when we played Argentina, he showed his quality and scored two goals.

Let the manager do his job. Musa must be there for the managers reasons not our reasons. Fans today are still mentioning players that are injury racked and have not represented the SE for years and yet you want one that turns up and they can see his level in training withdrawn?

Please sometimes things are not as clear as day as not playing for club should mean not in the team. It might be so most times but you'll get the odd ones.

The politics of club football means sometimes we have to be sympathetic to the plight of our players. Some lose their position due to national call up. Do you drop them if they are not in their team as well?

Please fans should be fans but that doesn't mean we can't be reasoning fans
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bully12 wrote:
maceo4 wrote:Rohr is Musas agent, simple :winking:
Why not shut your mouth look like a fool than open it and prove beyond every reasonable doubt that you are definitely a fool
Does that warrant insults? You looking like the fool, it may have being a joke.
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pajimoh wrote:
Ayo Akinfe wrote:
pajimoh wrote:Why don't you people grow a brain and stop thinking there's a beef or some money making scheme at play? As old as you people are you keep sining the same tune regardless of who is managing the team. It shows you lack respect or critical thinking.

Let the manager do his job and invite whom he wants and can fit into his system. When you people get to become the coach of The Super Eagles then you can invite anyone you want

Football is the game it is today because of the fans. Take the fans out of the game and you have no game.

Have you ever watched a match played behind closed doors before? If you have ever been to a game in an empty stadium before you will not be so contemptuous of the fans.

It is the fans who buy tickets, jerseys, memorabilia, cheer yet team along and generate the positive atmosphere around the players. We the fans will not sit back and allow any individual to ruin our team with his personal biases. In s democracy, the participation of the electorate is compulsory, so Gernot Rohr will hear from us big time!
That does not mean fans should constantly display a level of stupidity at every turn. When Keshi was there, it was brown envelope and agent accusation, same CCC, same SSS, in fact every manager has been accused of the same thing and why? because he did not invite or invited someone the fans think he has no business of being there.

I remember some wanted Musa out of the last WC because he could not cross to save his life. But when we played Argentina, he showed his quality and scored two goals.

Let the manager do his job. Musa must be there for the managers reasons not our reasons. Fans today are still mentioning players that are injury racked and have not represented the SE for years and yet you want one that turns up and they can see his level in training withdrawn?

Please sometimes things are not as clear as day as not playing for club should mean not in the team. It might be so most times but you'll get the odd ones.

The politics of club football means sometimes we have to be sympathetic to the plight of our players. Some lose their position due to national call up. Do you drop them if they are not in their team as well?

Please fans should be fans but that doesn't mean we can't be reasoning fans
Fans forums like this are here to debate the team and the issues. let the gist flow. It is those who have hidden agendas that are afraid of a debate because it will expose them.

Anyone who has been around football will know that if a player has not played for half a season he will be match rusty. Now, Rohr will know that such a player will be of no use to him come the World Cup. If such players bring things to the dressing room then he should take them as part of the technical crew!
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osita wrote:
bully12 wrote:
maceo4 wrote:Rohr is Musas agent, simple :winking:
Why not shut your mouth look like a fool than open it and prove beyond every reasonable doubt that you are definitely a fool
Does that warrant insults? You looking like the fool, it may have being a joke.
Clearly, but then again it's what ppl would be saying if it was an LC.
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Ayo Akinfe wrote:
pajimoh wrote:
Ayo Akinfe wrote:
pajimoh wrote:Why don't you people grow a brain and stop thinking there's a beef or some money making scheme at play? As old as you people are you keep sining the same tune regardless of who is managing the team. It shows you lack respect or critical thinking.

Let the manager do his job and invite whom he wants and can fit into his system. When you people get to become the coach of The Super Eagles then you can invite anyone you want

Football is the game it is today because of the fans. Take the fans out of the game and you have no game.

Have you ever watched a match played behind closed doors before? If you have ever been to a game in an empty stadium before you will not be so contemptuous of the fans.

It is the fans who buy tickets, jerseys, memorabilia, cheer yet team along and generate the positive atmosphere around the players. We the fans will not sit back and allow any individual to ruin our team with his personal biases. In s democracy, the participation of the electorate is compulsory, so Gernot Rohr will hear from us big time!
That does not mean fans should constantly display a level of stupidity at every turn. When Keshi was there, it was brown envelope and agent accusation, same CCC, same SSS, in fact every manager has been accused of the same thing and why? because he did not invite or invited someone the fans think he has no business of being there.

I remember some wanted Musa out of the last WC because he could not cross to save his life. But when we played Argentina, he showed his quality and scored two goals.

Let the manager do his job. Musa must be there for the managers reasons not our reasons. Fans today are still mentioning players that are injury racked and have not represented the SE for years and yet you want one that turns up and they can see his level in training withdrawn?

Please sometimes things are not as clear as day as not playing for club should mean not in the team. It might be so most times but you'll get the odd ones.

The politics of club football means sometimes we have to be sympathetic to the plight of our players. Some lose their position due to national call up. Do you drop them if they are not in their team as well?

Please fans should be fans but that doesn't mean we can't be reasoning fans
Fans forums like this are here to debate the team and the issues. let the gist flow. It is those who have hidden agendas that are afraid of a debate because it will expose them.

Anyone who has been around football will know that if a player has not played for half a season he will be match rusty. Now, Rohr will know that such a player will be of no use to him come the World Cup. If such players bring things to the dressing room then he should take them as part of the technical crew!
Again, don't try as if I'm against discourse. What I'm against is the same accusation every time as if we lack critical thinking that we have to keep singing the same tune.

If a player we perceived deserve a place is not in the squad then it can only be one thing - The person is not dropping. If someone we perceived doesn't deserve to be in the squad is included then it can only mean one thing - Agent

We accuse people on a whim just to satisfy our own ego.

In club football, a change of managers mean some expensive players don't even get a look in while some are sold. No one shouts of brown envelope or agents at work.

Stop the accusations and discuss what could be the problem, who is he competing with, is he a selfish player and does he have the experience compared to his rivals? These are things we can discuss.

Not this agent and brown envelope thing all the time.
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pajimoh wrote:
Ayo Akinfe wrote:
pajimoh wrote:
Ayo Akinfe wrote:
pajimoh wrote:Why don't you people grow a brain and stop thinking there's a beef or some money making scheme at play? As old as you people are you keep sining the same tune regardless of who is managing the team. It shows you lack respect or critical thinking.

Let the manager do his job and invite whom he wants and can fit into his system. When you people get to become the coach of The Super Eagles then you can invite anyone you want

Football is the game it is today because of the fans. Take the fans out of the game and you have no game.

Have you ever watched a match played behind closed doors before? If you have ever been to a game in an empty stadium before you will not be so contemptuous of the fans.

It is the fans who buy tickets, jerseys, memorabilia, cheer yet team along and generate the positive atmosphere around the players. We the fans will not sit back and allow any individual to ruin our team with his personal biases. In s democracy, the participation of the electorate is compulsory, so Gernot Rohr will hear from us big time!
That does not mean fans should constantly display a level of stupidity at every turn. When Keshi was there, it was brown envelope and agent accusation, same CCC, same SSS, in fact every manager has been accused of the same thing and why? because he did not invite or invited someone the fans think he has no business of being there.

I remember some wanted Musa out of the last WC because he could not cross to save his life. But when we played Argentina, he showed his quality and scored two goals.

Let the manager do his job. Musa must be there for the managers reasons not our reasons. Fans today are still mentioning players that are injury racked and have not represented the SE for years and yet you want one that turns up and they can see his level in training withdrawn?

Please sometimes things are not as clear as day as not playing for club should mean not in the team. It might be so most times but you'll get the odd ones.

The politics of club football means sometimes we have to be sympathetic to the plight of our players. Some lose their position due to national call up. Do you drop them if they are not in their team as well?

Please fans should be fans but that doesn't mean we can't be reasoning fans
Fans forums like this are here to debate the team and the issues. let the gist flow. It is those who have hidden agendas that are afraid of a debate because it will expose them.

Anyone who has been around football will know that if a player has not played for half a season he will be match rusty. Now, Rohr will know that such a player will be of no use to him come the World Cup. If such players bring things to the dressing room then he should take them as part of the technical crew!
Again, don't try as if I'm against discourse. What I'm against is the same accusation every time as if we lack critical thinking that we have to keep singing the same tune.

If a player we perceived deserve a place is not in the squad then it can only be one thing - The person is not dropping. If someone we perceived doesn't deserve to be in the squad is included then it can only mean one thing - Agent

We accuse people on a whim just to satisfy our own ego.

In club football, a change of managers mean some expensive players don't even get a look in while some are sold. No one shouts of brown envelope or agents at work.

Stop the accusations and discuss what could be the problem, who is he competing with, is he a selfish player and does he have the experience compared to his rivals? These are things we can discuss.

Not this agent and brown envelope thing all the time.

We cannot avoid childish people coming here to make all sorts of accusation. There is one person on CE for instance who has been really sweating over Ahmed Musa over the last week, accusing everyone who opposes him being in the team of being an agent who wants to get their own players selected.

I just ignore such people and stick to the issues. We all watch our players week-in-week-out, so can see those who are performing and those who are not. If we see a good player, we recommend him to the forum. CE debates are easily accessed by the NFF and the Eagles technical crew, so it is not surprising that when we recommend a player, he generally gets looked at.

Come March, I fully expect the likes of Dessers, Bonaventura, Bazee, Osimhen, Awoniyi, etc to get a look-in. However, I am braced for allegations that it is because I am the agent of all of them.

Winston Churchill once said: "If you stop to throw sticks at every dogs that barks at you, then you will never get to your destination." Let us ignore such infantile rants and continue with what we are doing.
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pajimoh wrote:Why don't you people grow a brain and stop thinking there's a beef or some money making scheme at play? As old as you people are you keep sining the same tune regardless of who is managing the team. It shows you lack respect or critical thinking.

Let the manager do his job and invite whom he wants and can fit into his system. When you people get to become the coach of The Super Eagles then you can invite anyone you want
Pa J, i don't blame him for thinking like that. There are people on this forum promoting inexperienced players and when it is pointed out to them mistakes that have been made in the past about including these players in the WC squad, they just ignore any reasonable arguments and remain dogmatic and it makes one to wonder, Could there be more to it?
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vancity eagle wrote:1. So I see our boy has scored again today, while Musa is nowhere to be found even as a bench warmer.

2. I have to ask this question. What is Gerhnot Rohr's beef with Henry Onyekuru ? Do you know that he would not even have been called up to the last squad had Simon Moses and Victor Moses not been injured.

3. It was criminal to give him only 20 minutes of these past 2 matches on a bumpy pitch in Algeria, where our team was playing disjointed football. Even at that he showed how dangerous he can be.

4. WHat does Rohr have against Onyekuru ? Scouts from all the big teams in Europe are talking about our boy yet Rohr would rather give minutes to a 28 year old wastepipe who is playing in Israel, or a headless chicken who doesn't even know what his club's bench feels like.

5. There has been all sorts of speculation that Onyekuru is not doing well in camp. There were even reports that he played poorly against the French regional side we played. From the highlights I remember ONyekuru having one or two vicious shots at the keeper and running at their defence.

6. If Rohr thinks Onyekuru is not good enough, let him field the player for 90 minutes in our next friendly and let him speak for himself.

7. As we have seen with Ebuehi, it seems that Rohr's judgement on talent is off. All along I was thinking Ebuehi was not SE material because Rohr had no faith in him. I put it to you that the same thing is going on with ONyekuru.

8. I like Rohr as a coach, but his major downfall is that he is far too conservative and he does not have the balls to choose new players who are showing themselves to be better than the devil that he knows.

9. This could be our undoing in Russia. Rohr needs to grow a pair or learn how to spot talent.

10. The preference of Musa over Onyekuru throughout Rohr's entire career, even in meaningless friendlies, IS ABSOLUTELY CRIMINAL AND NEGLIGENT.
I’d always suspected VanShitty and Ayo were the same person. Now I have my proof!
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MY NAME IS WAKA-MAN, and YES, I AM A CHELSEA FAN. Please don't hate me - I was fan when David Ellery dashed Cantona two penalties as Man U beat us 4-0 in the FA Cup final. So I've paid my dues.

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