Arsenal fans how do you really feel about Iwobi?
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Re: Arsenal fans how do you really feel about Iwobi?
He asked how I can compare a mere 21 year old with a veteran, so I decided to remind him that Jesus Gabriel is younger than Iwobi. Some of the best players in the Premiership are younger than all our boys:metalalloy wrote:How did we go from comparing Arsenal's treatment of Iwobi and Ozil to Jesus Gabriel?Ayo Akinfe wrote:How old is Jesus Gabriel?metalalloy wrote:are you seriously and with a straight face, comparing a 21 year old academy kid in arguably his 2nd full season in the first team with a veteran like Ozil?Ayo Akinfe wrote:Na wa for my people ooooo. Whenever our boys are not performing, we blame the club. I did not see anyone blame Arsenal when Ozil was playing badly!
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Re: Arsenal fans how do you really feel about Iwobi?
Sigh.. what was the context of the discussion? I asked how you compared a 21 year old kid in his second full season to a seasoned veteran who was the club record signing! The discussion was over the treatment by the club and fans towards both players and had little to do with their ages!Ayo Akinfe wrote:He asked how I can compare a mere 21 year old with a veteran, so I decided to remind him that Jesus Gabriel is younger than Iwobi. Some of the best players in the Premiership are younger than all our boys:metalalloy wrote:How did we go from comparing Arsenal's treatment of Iwobi and Ozil to Jesus Gabriel?Ayo Akinfe wrote:How old is Jesus Gabriel?metalalloy wrote:are you seriously and with a straight face, comparing a 21 year old academy kid in arguably his 2nd full season in the first team with a veteran like Ozil?Ayo Akinfe wrote:Na wa for my people ooooo. Whenever our boys are not performing, we blame the club. I did not see anyone blame Arsenal when Ozil was playing badly!
Srs question, Bros, do you have ADD?
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FYI Jesus Gabriel played 2 seasons in Brazil before coming to the EPL. Anthony Martial played two seasons in Monaco and a few games at Lyon before coming to Manchester United! Even if they are around the same age, they are not comparable experience wise to an academy player who was yanked midway in his first season with the full squad!
Rashford is definitely comparable as they came into the league around the same time and following the same path. Apart from a certain simpleton on this forum, Have you heard Rashford being bashed by a bunch of Manchester united fans on their version of "Arsenal TV"?
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He says that we are currently "brainwashed" into believing that the Premier League is the best competition in the world, and that we are now a long way off dominating the Champions League again.
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He says that we are currently "brainwashed" into believing that the Premier League is the best competition in the world, and that we are now a long way off dominating the Champions League again.
Gary Neville: Mirror: 12/23/14
I think Spain’s by far the best league.
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Re: Arsenal fans how do you really feel about Iwobi?
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Re: Arsenal fans how do you really feel about Iwobi?
Do you accept that Iwobi stank up the joint so much yesterday, nobody can defend him? Now ask yourself if Rashford has ever played so badly for Man United before.metalalloy wrote:Sigh.. what was the context of the discussion? I asked how you compared a 21 year old kid in his second full season to a seasoned veteran who was the club record signing! The discussion was over the treatment by the club and fans towards both players and had little to do with their ages!Ayo Akinfe wrote:He asked how I can compare a mere 21 year old with a veteran, so I decided to remind him that Jesus Gabriel is younger than Iwobi. Some of the best players in the Premiership are younger than all our boys:metalalloy wrote:How did we go from comparing Arsenal's treatment of Iwobi and Ozil to Jesus Gabriel?Ayo Akinfe wrote:How old is Jesus Gabriel?metalalloy wrote:are you seriously and with a straight face, comparing a 21 year old academy kid in arguably his 2nd full season in the first team with a veteran like Ozil?Ayo Akinfe wrote:Na wa for my people ooooo. Whenever our boys are not performing, we blame the club. I did not see anyone blame Arsenal when Ozil was playing badly!
Srs question, Bros, do you have ADD?
Jesus Gabriel - 20
Marcus Rashford - 20
Anthony Martial - 22
FYI Jesus Gabriel played 2 seasons in Brazil before coming to the EPL. Anthony Martial played two seasons in Monaco and a few games at Lyon before coming to Manchester United! Even if they are around the same age, they are not comparable experience wise to an academy player who was yanked midway in his first season with the full squad!
Rashford is definitely comparable as they came into the league around the same time and following the same path. Apart from a certain simpleton on this forum, Have you heard Rashford being bashed by a bunch of Manchester united fans on their version of "Arsenal TV"?
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Re: Arsenal fans how do you really feel about Iwobi?
Ayo Akinfe wrote:Do you accept that Iwobi stank up the joint so much yesterday, nobody can defend him? Now ask yourself if Rashford has ever played so badly for Man United before.metalalloy wrote:Sigh.. what was the context of the discussion? I asked how you compared a 21 year old kid in his second full season to a seasoned veteran who was the club record signing! The discussion was over the treatment by the club and fans towards both players and had little to do with their ages!Ayo Akinfe wrote:He asked how I can compare a mere 21 year old with a veteran, so I decided to remind him that Jesus Gabriel is younger than Iwobi. Some of the best players in the Premiership are younger than all our boys:metalalloy wrote:How did we go from comparing Arsenal's treatment of Iwobi and Ozil to Jesus Gabriel?Ayo Akinfe wrote:How old is Jesus Gabriel?metalalloy wrote:are you seriously and with a straight face, comparing a 21 year old academy kid in arguably his 2nd full season in the first team with a veteran like Ozil?Ayo Akinfe wrote:Na wa for my people ooooo. Whenever our boys are not performing, we blame the club. I did not see anyone blame Arsenal when Ozil was playing badly!
Srs question, Bros, do you have ADD?
Jesus Gabriel - 20
Marcus Rashford - 20
Anthony Martial - 22
FYI Jesus Gabriel played 2 seasons in Brazil before coming to the EPL. Anthony Martial played two seasons in Monaco and a few games at Lyon before coming to Manchester United! Even if they are around the same age, they are not comparable experience wise to an academy player who was yanked midway in his first season with the full squad!
Rashford is definitely comparable as they came into the league around the same time and following the same path. Apart from a certain simpleton on this forum, Have you heard Rashford being bashed by a bunch of Manchester united fans on their version of "Arsenal TV"?
I didn't watch the arsenal game, so I'll defer to you on that one. It is more than possible that Iwobi had a stinker. But so does every single player! The same martial you listed above was on his way out to loan this past summer! Rashford, i havent seen every Manure game, but a quick search reveals how he was treated when went through a poor patch and a stinker last year against Everton by his coach:
"Marcus Rashford doesn't score a [Premier League] goal since September, the only thing he deserves is support, nothing else, no critics, support. He works, he works, he works, he tries, he tries, he tries. He plays through the middle, he plays on the left, on the right, through the middle, he tries.
http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/ ... d-12846551When asked if Rashford was specifically lacking confidence, Mourinho replied: "It's easy to see and the kid is desperate, he tries.
"And it's not a surprise for me, the second year after the first one by surprise, it's something maybe one day I will try to find if it happens the same with some Ryan Giggs or some of these guys, they appear as a kid and then the next year probably it's not the same.
"But the kid is phenomenal, amazing professional, amazing professional, so no problem I told him just now. No problem. Keep going."
That is how a coach and a club treats a struggling player. That is the difference!
We have been brainwashed by the Premier League that it's the best in the world. Nonsense. It's the best brand
Roy Keane: ITV 02/25/14
He says that we are currently "brainwashed" into believing that the Premier League is the best competition in the world, and that we are now a long way off dominating the Champions League again.
Gary Neville: Mirror: 12/23/14
I think Spain’s by far the best league.
Scholes. UK Guardian 9/6/16
Roy Keane: ITV 02/25/14
He says that we are currently "brainwashed" into believing that the Premier League is the best competition in the world, and that we are now a long way off dominating the Champions League again.
Gary Neville: Mirror: 12/23/14
I think Spain’s by far the best league.
Scholes. UK Guardian 9/6/16
Re: Arsenal fans how do you really feel about Iwobi?
Iwobi had a problem with Sanchez and was told to differ to sanchez as he was more senior to him.....the truth was that sanchez was wrong. since then he plays better in training than he does in the league.
Wenger was saying about his body language just 2 weeks ago and actually when you look back at the matches....coming out from the tunnel he looks like he doesn't want to be there...
He played ok yesterday and in fact, welbeck came on and was worse....in my opinion...but his body language was far better....we know why he is the way he is and will get better
Wenger was saying about his body language just 2 weeks ago and actually when you look back at the matches....coming out from the tunnel he looks like he doesn't want to be there...
He played ok yesterday and in fact, welbeck came on and was worse....in my opinion...but his body language was far better....we know why he is the way he is and will get better
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Iwobi is lucky he is not playing in Italy. If he plays that badly for a Serie A side, the fans will boo him every time he touches the ball.
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Don't listen to Ayo, Iwobi didn't have a stinker. He was better than the likes of the huseless Lacazette.metalalloy wrote:Ayo Akinfe wrote:
Do you accept that Iwobi stank up the joint so much yesterday, nobody can defend him? Now ask yourself if Rashford has ever played so badly for Man United before.
I didn't watch the arsenal game, so I'll defer to you on that one. It is more than possible that Iwobi had a stinker. But so does every single player! The same martial you listed above was on his way out to loan this past summer! Rashford, i havent seen every Manure game, but a quick search reveals how he was treated when went through a poor patch and a stinker last year against Everton by his coach:
"Marcus Rashford doesn't score a [Premier League] goal since September, the only thing he deserves is support, nothing else, no critics, support. He works, he works, he works, he tries, he tries, he tries. He plays through the middle, he plays on the left, on the right, through the middle, he tries.http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/ ... d-12846551When asked if Rashford was specifically lacking confidence, Mourinho replied: "It's easy to see and the kid is desperate, he tries.
"And it's not a surprise for me, the second year after the first one by surprise, it's something maybe one day I will try to find if it happens the same with some Ryan Giggs or some of these guys, they appear as a kid and then the next year probably it's not the same.
"But the kid is phenomenal, amazing professional, amazing professional, so no problem I told him just now. No problem. Keep going."
That is how a coach and a club treats a struggling player. That is the difference!
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So I guess the Arsenal fans just picked on him fir no reason. He was brilliant and they just decided to single out for undue criticismmaceo4 wrote:Don't listen to Ayo, Iwobi didn't have a stinker. He was better than the likes of the huseless Lacazette.metalalloy wrote:Ayo Akinfe wrote:
Do you accept that Iwobi stank up the joint so much yesterday, nobody can defend him? Now ask yourself if Rashford has ever played so badly for Man United before.
I didn't watch the arsenal game, so I'll defer to you on that one. It is more than possible that Iwobi had a stinker. But so does every single player! The same martial you listed above was on his way out to loan this past summer! Rashford, i havent seen every Manure game, but a quick search reveals how he was treated when went through a poor patch and a stinker last year against Everton by his coach:
"Marcus Rashford doesn't score a [Premier League] goal since September, the only thing he deserves is support, nothing else, no critics, support. He works, he works, he works, he tries, he tries, he tries. He plays through the middle, he plays on the left, on the right, through the middle, he tries.When asked if Rashford was specifically lacking confidence, Mourinho replied: "It's easy to see and the kid is desperate, he tries.
"And it's not a surprise for me, the second year after the first one by surprise, it's something maybe one day I will try to find if it happens the same with some Ryan Giggs or some of these guys, they appear as a kid and then the next year probably it's not the same.
"But the kid is phenomenal, amazing professional, amazing professional, so no problem I told him just now. No problem. Keep going."
http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/ ... d-12846551
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Re: Arsenal fans how do you really feel about Iwobi?
My guy, I normally don't have time for the dude and his nonsense, but this takes the cake. Ridiculous to say the least. Anyways, thanks for the reminder to just ignore and move on.john12 wrote:Cally, na you the time. The ayo guy is either a comedian or he purposely tries to get a response. Imagine suggesting we drop iwobi who scored 2 important goals in WCQ against Zambia and 2 against Argentina 6 months to World Cup. He is even suggesting we drop iwobi for a rookie like nwakali or Ajagun lol
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Re: Arsenal fans how do you really feel about Iwobi?
What Arsenal fans. ArsenalTV is in no way a forum representative of Arsenal fans. And you know I am live and direct.Ayo Akinfe wrote:So I guess the Arsenal fans just picked on him fir no reason. He was brilliant and they just decided to single out for undue criticismmaceo4 wrote:Don't listen to Ayo, Iwobi didn't have a stinker. He was better than the likes of the huseless Lacazette.metalalloy wrote:Ayo Akinfe wrote:
Do you accept that Iwobi stank up the joint so much yesterday, nobody can defend him? Now ask yourself if Rashford has ever played so badly for Man United before.
I didn't watch the arsenal game, so I'll defer to you on that one. It is more than possible that Iwobi had a stinker. But so does every single player! The same martial you listed above was on his way out to loan this past summer! Rashford, i havent seen every Manure game, but a quick search reveals how he was treated when went through a poor patch and a stinker last year against Everton by his coach:
"Marcus Rashford doesn't score a [Premier League] goal since September, the only thing he deserves is support, nothing else, no critics, support. He works, he works, he works, he tries, he tries, he tries. He plays through the middle, he plays on the left, on the right, through the middle, he tries.When asked if Rashford was specifically lacking confidence, Mourinho replied: "It's easy to see and the kid is desperate, he tries.
"And it's not a surprise for me, the second year after the first one by surprise, it's something maybe one day I will try to find if it happens the same with some Ryan Giggs or some of these guys, they appear as a kid and then the next year probably it's not the same.
"But the kid is phenomenal, amazing professional, amazing professional, so no problem I told him just now. No problem. Keep going."
http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/ ... d-12846551
That is how a coach and a club treats a struggling player. That is the difference!
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They mentioned other players too, he needs to improve but no reason sensationalizing his current form.Ayo Akinfe wrote:So I guess the Arsenal fans just picked on him fir no reason. He was brilliant and they just decided to single out for undue criticismmaceo4 wrote:Don't listen to Ayo, Iwobi didn't have a stinker. He was better than the likes of the huseless Lacazette.metalalloy wrote:Ayo Akinfe wrote:
Do you accept that Iwobi stank up the joint so much yesterday, nobody can defend him? Now ask yourself if Rashford has ever played so badly for Man United before.
I didn't watch the arsenal game, so I'll defer to you on that one. It is more than possible that Iwobi had a stinker. But so does every single player! The same martial you listed above was on his way out to loan this past summer! Rashford, i havent seen every Manure game, but a quick search reveals how he was treated when went through a poor patch and a stinker last year against Everton by his coach:
"Marcus Rashford doesn't score a [Premier League] goal since September, the only thing he deserves is support, nothing else, no critics, support. He works, he works, he works, he tries, he tries, he tries. He plays through the middle, he plays on the left, on the right, through the middle, he tries.When asked if Rashford was specifically lacking confidence, Mourinho replied: "It's easy to see and the kid is desperate, he tries.
"And it's not a surprise for me, the second year after the first one by surprise, it's something maybe one day I will try to find if it happens the same with some Ryan Giggs or some of these guys, they appear as a kid and then the next year probably it's not the same.
"But the kid is phenomenal, amazing professional, amazing professional, so no problem I told him just now. No problem. Keep going."
http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/ ... d-12846551
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Re: Arsenal fans how do you really feel about Iwobi?
Funny enough, Bellerin is the one being slaughtered by certain sections of Arsenal fans. Iwobi gets it from a minority of mainly England supporting Arsenal fans. But they are an irrelevant minority.maceo4 wrote:They mentioned other players too, he needs to improve but no reason sensationalizing his current form.Ayo Akinfe wrote:So I guess the Arsenal fans just picked on him fir no reason. He was brilliant and they just decided to single out for undue criticismmaceo4 wrote:Don't listen to Ayo, Iwobi didn't have a stinker. He was better than the likes of the huseless Lacazette.metalalloy wrote:Ayo Akinfe wrote:
Do you accept that Iwobi stank up the joint so much yesterday, nobody can defend him? Now ask yourself if Rashford has ever played so badly for Man United before.
I didn't watch the arsenal game, so I'll defer to you on that one. It is more than possible that Iwobi had a stinker. But so does every single player! The same martial you listed above was on his way out to loan this past summer! Rashford, i havent seen every Manure game, but a quick search reveals how he was treated when went through a poor patch and a stinker last year against Everton by his coach:
"Marcus Rashford doesn't score a [Premier League] goal since September, the only thing he deserves is support, nothing else, no critics, support. He works, he works, he works, he tries, he tries, he tries. He plays through the middle, he plays on the left, on the right, through the middle, he tries.When asked if Rashford was specifically lacking confidence, Mourinho replied: "It's easy to see and the kid is desperate, he tries.
"And it's not a surprise for me, the second year after the first one by surprise, it's something maybe one day I will try to find if it happens the same with some Ryan Giggs or some of these guys, they appear as a kid and then the next year probably it's not the same.
"But the kid is phenomenal, amazing professional, amazing professional, so no problem I told him just now. No problem. Keep going."
http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/ ... d-12846551
That is how a coach and a club treats a struggling player. That is the difference!
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Waffi I am sure you are on the fans forum and know what they are saying. Ask yourself if any other manager apart from Wenger would ever field him.Waffiman wrote:What Arsenal fans. ArsenalTV is in no way a forum representative of Arsenal fans. And you know I am live and direct.Ayo Akinfe wrote:So I guess the Arsenal fans just picked on him fir no reason. He was brilliant and they just decided to single out for undue criticismmaceo4 wrote:Don't listen to Ayo, Iwobi didn't have a stinker. He was better than the likes of the huseless Lacazette.metalalloy wrote:Ayo Akinfe wrote:
Do you accept that Iwobi stank up the joint so much yesterday, nobody can defend him? Now ask yourself if Rashford has ever played so badly for Man United before.
I didn't watch the arsenal game, so I'll defer to you on that one. It is more than possible that Iwobi had a stinker. But so does every single player! The same martial you listed above was on his way out to loan this past summer! Rashford, i havent seen every Manure game, but a quick search reveals how he was treated when went through a poor patch and a stinker last year against Everton by his coach:
"Marcus Rashford doesn't score a [Premier League] goal since September, the only thing he deserves is support, nothing else, no critics, support. He works, he works, he works, he tries, he tries, he tries. He plays through the middle, he plays on the left, on the right, through the middle, he tries.When asked if Rashford was specifically lacking confidence, Mourinho replied: "It's easy to see and the kid is desperate, he tries.
"And it's not a surprise for me, the second year after the first one by surprise, it's something maybe one day I will try to find if it happens the same with some Ryan Giggs or some of these guys, they appear as a kid and then the next year probably it's not the same.
"But the kid is phenomenal, amazing professional, amazing professional, so no problem I told him just now. No problem. Keep going."
http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/ ... d-12846551
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Gerhnot Rohr will.Ayo Akinfe wrote:Waffi I am sure you are on the fans forum and know what they are saying. Ask yourself if any other manager apart from Wenger would ever field him.Waffiman wrote: What Arsenal fans. ArsenalTV is in no way a forum representative of Arsenal fans. And you know I am live and direct.
We have been brainwashed by the Premier League that it's the best in the world. Nonsense. It's the best brand
Roy Keane: ITV 02/25/14
He says that we are currently "brainwashed" into believing that the Premier League is the best competition in the world, and that we are now a long way off dominating the Champions League again.
Gary Neville: Mirror: 12/23/14
I think Spain’s by far the best league.
Scholes. UK Guardian 9/6/16
Roy Keane: ITV 02/25/14
He says that we are currently "brainwashed" into believing that the Premier League is the best competition in the world, and that we are now a long way off dominating the Champions League again.
Gary Neville: Mirror: 12/23/14
I think Spain’s by far the best league.
Scholes. UK Guardian 9/6/16
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Re: Arsenal fans how do you really feel about Iwobi?
Iwobi is a solid player. Watching him play for Nigeria and Arsenal shows a clear difference. The real question should be what is going on at Arsenal that is affecting the brother!! I read that there is some clash between him and Sanchez. I dont know - I am not a l'arse fan.
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Cristao II wrote:Iwobi is a solid player. Watching him play for Nigeria and Arsenal shows a clear difference. The real question should be what is going on at Arsenal that is affecting the brother!! I read that there is some clash between him and Sanchez. I dont know - I am not a l'arse fan.
Na wa for my people and excuses. How come all that is not affecting Ozil, Wilshire, Sanchez, etc. Even the kid Niles is immune from it!
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The first fan does bring up a good point: how much has Iwobi progressed since he entered the first team?
Second fan: "Alex Iwobi; I don't care if he is an academy graduate. He is not good enough...Let's put Iwobi in. Bollox, f**k off. absolute rubbish."
Dang, that was brutal!
Second fan: "Alex Iwobi; I don't care if he is an academy graduate. He is not good enough...Let's put Iwobi in. Bollox, f**k off. absolute rubbish."
Dang, that was brutal!
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That's moronic.wiseone wrote:The first fan does bring up a good point: how much has Iwobi progressed since he entered the first team?
Second fan: "Alex Iwobi; I don't care if he is an academy graduate. He is not good enough...Let's put Iwobi in. Bollox, f**k off. absolute rubbish."
Dang, that was brutal!
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Re: Arsenal fans how do you really feel about Iwobi?
Honestly, all some of these boys need is a bit of calmness, and a coach that would believe in them. Alex Iwobi can be great...he just needs the time and the confidence to grow into his greatness. The last game he played, he was clearly harried....trying to get the ball off his legs as quickly as possible. He does better for Nigeria - and so does Victor Moses - because we have given them the freedom and time...partly because we have no choice.
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Re: Arsenal fans how do you really feel about Iwobi?
1 goal 2 assists this season from 17 appearances There are defenders/wing backs at the club with better offensive stats.Arsenal fans how do you really feel about Iwobi?
Has been poor for me, needs to improve his final ball, shooting and do more off the ball to hurt the opposition.
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