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ohsee wrote:

Mr. Piffington wrote:

The YeyeMan wrote:

paj wrote:

The YeyeMan wrote:Coutinho is actually injured.

true...so how Pool go do am?

Press and isolate Mangala (sorry ohsee).

Deploy Lallana to mark Fernandinho

Transition quickly and especially get the ball to Mane and Salah on the flanks.

Don't get players sent off.

If you think pep is going to play Mangala in a game verses Liverpool then you really don't know anything about football. I don't understand ohsee's fascination with Mangala but the truth is that as good as he may be he just doesn't fit the system.

Chief, you are right about one thing: on Sunday, Pep will go with Stones and Otamendi, or Stones and Kompany if he is available. No number of mistakes Stones makes will change that. Stones is Pep's boy, but he made so many terrible mistakes last season that he should have been shipped out ages ago. I remember how, many years ago at AC Milan, the Dutch international Winston Bogarde made one bad backpass that led to a goal, and Fabio Capello shipped him out almost the next day. Old School coaches like Capello would never have tolerated the sort of mistakes Stones made last season.

We embrace players for mainly irrational reasons, and Pep shows that such behavior is not restricted to fans like me. But let me make one prediction for Sunday: if for some reason--injury or whatever--Mangala plays, he will be solid, as he has been in virtually all games he has played this season, whether he "fits the system" or not.

Damunk wrote:

Chief Ogbunigwe wrote:

wanaj0 wrote:

Mr. Piffington wrote:

The YeyeMan wrote:

paj wrote:

The YeyeMan wrote:Coutinho is actually injured.

true...so how Pool go do am?

Press and isolate Mangala (sorry ohsee).

Deploy Lallana to mark Fernandinho

Transition quickly and especially get the ball to Mane and Salah on the flanks.

Don't get players sent off.

If you think pep is going to play Mangala in a game verses Liverpool then you really don't know anything about football. I don't understand ohsee's fascination with Mangala but the truth is that as good as he may be he just doesn't fit the system.

Oloye's scouting report says that Mangala is world class. Oga Oloye no be so????

Wetin be the name of that 'world class' Portuguese player that Ferguson signed for Man U without even watching him play? Bebe????

I thought he was Angolan? What about the WC Cameroon player, named twice, that Ferguson signed? Don't even remind me of the world class defender from Estonia abi na Lithuania that Wenger signed, who was so poor that the Man U strikers began to pity him?

'Ojemba-Ojemba' (or suntin like dat).
I thought he was South African.

ohsee wrote:

Damunk wrote:

Chief Ogbunigwe wrote:


I thought he was Angolan? What about the WC Cameroon player, named twice, that Ferguson signed? Don't even remind me of the world class defender from Estonia abi na Lithuania that Wenger signed, who was so poor that the Man U strikers began to pity him?

'Ojemba-Ojemba' (or suntin like dat).
I thought he was South African.

Make Doc Sabi catch you. Eric Djemba-Djemba, from Plantania.

nemi2002 wrote:English press blaming mangala for the stones penalty

cic old boy wrote:

nemi2002 wrote:English press blaming mangala for the stones penalty

Actually, it was Mangala’s error that led to the dangerous situation where Stones had to concede the pen. If Mangala didn’t lose the ball, the pen would not have happened. That said, Stones’ challenge was rash, esp in the box.

There was also a howler (miskick) from Stones against Burnley.

But Stones has improved a lot since last season – even if the mistakes seem to have crept in since he came back from a few months’ injury layoff.

The thing is that Pep will forgive Stones his errors b/c he can play from the back and contributes offensively as an extra man in midfield. This means that with Stones in the side, City will create more goals either from Stones himself or from his contributions in overwhelming the opposition in midfield.

I remember one El Clasico where Barca goalie Valdez lost the ball while trying to play from the back and Benzema scored. Pep said it didn’t matter and that Valdez must continue playing like that b/c it was critical for Barca’s possession game.

cic old boy wrote:

nemi2002 wrote:English press blaming mangala for the stones penalty

Actually, it was Mangala’s error that led to the dangerous situation where Stones had to concede the pen. If Mangala didn’t lose the ball, the pen would not have happened. That said, Stones’ challenge was rash, esp in the box.

There was also a howler (miskick) from Stones against Burnley.

But Stones has improved a lot since last season – even if the mistakes seem to have crept in since he came back from a few months’ injury layoff.

The thing is that Pep will forgive Stones his errors b/c he can play from the back and contributes offensively as an extra man in midfield. This means that with Stones in the side, City will create more goals either from Stones himself or from his contributions in overwhelming the opposition in midfield.

I remember one El Clasico where Barca goalie Valdez lost the ball while trying to play from the back and Benzema scored. Pep said it didn’t matter and that Valdez must continue playing like that b/c it was critical for Barca’s possession game.

cic old boy wrote:

nemi2002 wrote:English press blaming mangala for the stones penalty

Actually, it was Mangala’s error that led to the dangerous situation where Stones had to concede the pen. If Mangala didn’t lose the ball, the pen would not have happened. That said, Stones’ challenge was rash, esp in the box.

There was also a howler (miskick) from Stones against Burnley.

But Stones has improved a lot since last season – even if the mistakes seem to have crept in since he came back from a few months’ injury layoff.

The thing is that Pep will forgive Stones his errors b/c he can play from the back and contributes offensively as an extra man in midfield. This means that with Stones in the side, City will create more goals either from Stones himself or from his contributions in overwhelming the opposition in midfield.

I remember one El Clasico where Barca goalie Valdez lost the ball while trying to play from the back and Benzema scored. Pep said it didn’t matter and that Valdez must continue playing like that b/c it was critical for Barca’s possession game.

ohsee wrote:I am shaking with anticipation for Sunday. While I want City to win the league, I don't want it to be such a no-contest. I actually want Liverpool to beat them, so they will not be invincible like you-know-who, my real team, the team of my childhood.

Unfortunately, I see Liverpool opening nyash, van Dyke or no van Dyke. But this will be a cracker of a game. I can't wait.

ohsee wrote:

The YeyeMan wrote:

paj wrote:

The YeyeMan wrote:Coutinho is actually injured.

true...so how Pool go do am?

Press and isolate Mangala (sorry ohsee).

Deploy Lallana to mark Fernandinho

Transition quickly and especially get the ball to Mane and Salah on the flanks.

Don't get players sent off.

Chief, don't sorry me. If Mangala plays, the mistakes won't come from him. As spastic rightly pointed out (thinking it a slur on my boy), Mangala makes safe and conservative passes. Pep encourages the others to make more adventurous passes, and you will note that Otamendi and Stones pass the ball to opponents (far too) often, something that the media has said Pep does not mind. A team that wants to beat City will have to take advantage of such bad passes out of the back, and punish City for them.

Not sure why you want Lallana to mark Fernandinho, the designated DM on City. De genius DeBruyne is the main midfield man on City. Stop him and you stop City.

cic old boy wrote:

nemi2002 wrote:English press blaming mangala for the stones penalty

Actually, it was Mangala’s error that led to the dangerous situation where Stones had to concede the pen. If Mangala didn’t lose the ball, the pen would not have happened. That said, Stones’ challenge was rash, esp in the box.

There was also a howler (miskick) from Stones against Burnley.

But Stones has improved a lot since last season – even if the mistakes seem to have crept in since he came back from a few months’ injury layoff.

The thing is that Pep will forgive Stones his errors b/c he can play from the back and contributes offensively as an extra man in midfield. This means that with Stones in the side, City will create more goals either from Stones himself or from his contributions in overwhelming the opposition in midfield.

I remember one El Clasico where Barca goalie Valdez lost the ball while trying to play from the back and Benzema scored. Pep said it didn’t matter and that Valdez must continue playing like that b/c it was critical for Barca’s possession game.

spastic wrote:It's strange reading folks who don't watch City much run analysis on them. Jumping from one errronous assumption to the next. Quite stunning really.

Anyway for those who like facts and not feelings, here are some for you.

The highest pass completion rate in the Premier League At 96%
John' Stones, King of the North

The fifth highest at 92%
Nicolas Superman Otamendi

And slapped in between them at #3
Fabian Delph at 93%

This is why John Stones and Nicolas Superman Otamendi start and Mangala doesn't. Coz they are miles better than Mangala and anyone else in the league at passing out of pressure.

I'm happy CIC is here to do some explaining. Pa Ohsee, you are the closest City fan, why is CIC having to explain these things to you?

I can understand when Arsenal fans like Oloye, and Kajifu keep viewing City thru Arsenal lenses, or Chelsea fans like PaJ or Airwolex just talk crap for the sake of it... I won't even dignify the Reds from the suburbs like Tfco a d woman-brassiere... But etu?

I mean, now I'm down to just CIC and Piffingtion on here...

Come on Pa, I need you to do quick and get on board. You are a bit like Bernardo Silva. I know you have it in you, but this wait is getting a bit long.

In short, Mangala is not it Nice guy, poor footballer

Chief Ogbunigwe wrote:

spastic wrote:It's strange reading folks who don't watch City much run analysis on them. Jumping from one errronous assumption to the next. Quite stunning really.

Anyway for those who like facts and not feelings, here are some for you.

The highest pass completion rate in the Premier League At 96%
John' Stones, King of the North

The fifth highest at 92%
Nicolas Superman Otamendi

And slapped in between them at #3
Fabian Delph at 93%

This is why John Stones and Nicolas Superman Otamendi start and Mangala doesn't. Coz they are miles better than Mangala and anyone else in the league at passing out of pressure.

I'm happy CIC is here to do some explaining. Pa Ohsee, you are the closest City fan, why is CIC having to explain these things to you?

I can understand when Arsenal fans like Oloye, and Kajifu keep viewing City thru Arsenal lenses, or Chelsea fans like PaJ or Airwolex just talk crap for the sake of it... I won't even dignify the Reds from the suburbs like Tfco a d woman-brassiere... But etu?

I mean, now I'm down to just CIC and Piffingtion on here...

Come on Pa, I need you to do quick and get on board. You are a bit like Bernardo Silva. I know you have it in you, but this wait is getting a bit long.

In short, Mangala is not it Nice guy, poor footballer

kai, this spastic's mouth is worse than OBJ's own. I thought the guy for don mellow, but for whia? see as he take style put Dean Oloye together with shaking Kajifu

The YeyeMan wrote:

ohsee wrote:

The YeyeMan wrote:

paj wrote:

The YeyeMan wrote:Coutinho is actually injured.

true...so how Pool go do am?

Press and isolate Mangala (sorry ohsee).

Deploy Lallana to mark Fernandinho

Transition quickly and especially get the ball to Mane and Salah on the flanks.

Don't get players sent off.

Chief, don't sorry me. If Mangala plays, the mistakes won't come from him. As spastic rightly pointed out (thinking it a slur on my boy), Mangala makes safe and conservative passes. Pep encourages the others to make more adventurous passes, and you will note that Otamendi and Stones pass the ball to opponents (far too) often, something that the media has said Pep does not mind. A team that wants to beat City will have to take advantage of such bad passes out of the back, and punish City for them.

Not sure why you want Lallana to mark Fernandinho, the designated DM on City. De genius DeBruyne is the main midfield man on City. Stop him and you stop City.

But Chief.. pressing Mangala (if he plays) would probably force him into errors as his distribution accuracy isn't as good as the other defenders - he was poor when Liverpool defeated City at the Emptyhad a couple of seasons ago and even contributed an own goal. And I say this as someone who likes Mangala and knows he's been unfairly treated by the know-nothing pundits.

Otamendi (if he plays) could be a weak link - Salah had some joy against him before Mane's sending off changed the complexion of the game...

And rather than trying to stop KdB or Silva or Sterling or Sane nko nko... they should try to stop the man who gives the ball to them and controls their tempo.... Fernandinho.

spastic wrote:

The YeyeMan wrote:

ohsee wrote:

The YeyeMan wrote:

paj wrote:

The YeyeMan wrote:Coutinho is actually injured.

true...so how Pool go do am?

Press and isolate Mangala (sorry ohsee).

Deploy Lallana to mark Fernandinho

Transition quickly and especially get the ball to Mane and Salah on the flanks.

Don't get players sent off.

Chief, don't sorry me. If Mangala plays, the mistakes won't come from him. As spastic rightly pointed out (thinking it a slur on my boy), Mangala makes safe and conservative passes. Pep encourages the others to make more adventurous passes, and you will note that Otamendi and Stones pass the ball to opponents (far too) often, something that the media has said Pep does not mind. A team that wants to beat City will have to take advantage of such bad passes out of the back, and punish City for them.

Not sure why you want Lallana to mark Fernandinho, the designated DM on City. De genius DeBruyne is the main midfield man on City. Stop him and you stop City.

But Chief.. pressing Mangala (if he plays) would probably force him into errors as his distribution accuracy isn't as good as the other defenders - he was poor when Liverpool defeated City at the Emptyhad a couple of seasons ago and even contributed an own goal. And I say this as someone who likes Mangala and knows he's been unfairly treated by the know-nothing pundits.

Otamendi (if he plays) could be a weak link - Salah had some joy against him before Mane's sending off changed the complexion of the game...

And rather than trying to stop KdB or Silva or Sterling or Sane nko nko... they should try to stop the man who gives the ball to them and controls their tempo.... Fernandinho.

Mangala will not play.if both Stones and Otamendi got injured, I'm sure Pep would rather go with Dihno and Danilo over Mangala.

Mangala can barely handle non-pressing teams. He'd be lunch meat for the hyenas at Liverpool.

I mean, didn't you guys see what Bristol did? Oh wait... You didn't watch Okay, let me explain. They held in the middle and only pressed hard when Mangala got the ball.

If Bristol City spotted that in 2 seconds. What do you think Liverpool will do if he played?

I mean, even you ate already praying for him to play and deducing Liverpool will press him.

Now you really think the "cheque book" manager doesn't know that

The YeyeMan wrote:

He no get mouth when City were getting bent over by the likes of Everton and Leicester last season. Instead of writing thesis he picked race.

Btw, I hope he now realises that City is not a truly big club in the way that Man United and Liverpool are - Pep and Mourinho already don talk am. I had to school this guy last season when he was making noise about City being one of the big English clubs.

The YeyeMan wrote: Nna... keywords: if he plays. Stop worrying. It's only football.

spastic wrote:

The YeyeMan wrote:

He no get mouth when City were getting bent over by the likes of Everton and Leicester last season. Instead of writing thesis he picked race.

Btw, I hope he now realises that City is not a truly big club in the way that Man United and Liverpool are - Pep and Mourinho already don talk am. I had to school this guy last season when he was making noise about City being one of the big English clubs.

Haba,

I talk am for beginning of last season now. I said wait till the aging crew with expiring contracts leave and he gets his own players. Then we can judge. All that nonsense talk of "you can't do that in the Premier League" don almost finish now.

Abi no be so? Sebi nah because him dey one team league for Spain and Germany abi? Lol.

Last season, the Journos and all the English league "we are the bestest league" couldn't help themselves. Nah so so "Pep, this is the toughest league you've been in, right?" "And what have you learned about how tough it is to play in this league?"

Anyway, make we siddon dey look.

spastic wrote:

The YeyeMan wrote: Nna... keywords: if he plays. Stop worrying. It's only football.

Pali, if you be Coach, you go play Mangala?

Chief Ogbunigwe wrote: kai, this spastic's mouth is worse than OBJ's own. I thought the guy for don mellow, but for whia? see as he take style put Dean Oloye together with shaking Kajifu

The YeyeMan wrote:

spastic wrote:

The YeyeMan wrote: Nna... keywords: if he plays. Stop worrying. It's only football.

Pali, if you be Coach, you go play Mangala?

Not against Firmino, Salah etc.

But coaches often surprise me with their thinking and selections...

The YeyeMan wrote:

spastic wrote:

The YeyeMan wrote:

He no get mouth when City were getting bent over by the likes of Everton and Leicester last season. Instead of writing thesis he picked race.

Btw, I hope he now realises that City is not a truly big club in the way that Man United and Liverpool are - Pep and Mourinho already don talk am. I had to school this guy last season when he was making noise about City being one of the big English clubs.

Haba,

I talk am for beginning of last season now. I said wait till the aging crew with expiring contracts leave and he gets his own players. Then we can judge. All that nonsense talk of "you can't do that in the Premier League" don almost finish now.

Abi no be so? Sebi nah because him dey one team league for Spain and Germany abi? Lol.

Last season, the Journos and all the English league "we are the bestest league" couldn't help themselves. Nah so so "Pep, this is the toughest league you've been in, right?" "And what have you learned about how tough it is to play in this league?"

Anyway, make we siddon dey look.

Admittedly, City have had an incredible first half of the season. I'd like them to win the league - especially since some of the roforofo clubs have begun to target their players. The CL is the real challenge....