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Re: LIVERPOOL VS CITY (4-3) FT

Posted: Sun Jan 14, 2018 8:38 pm
by ohsee
City and Liverpool are the best attacking teams in the PL--let me state the obvious. I wish they could meet again. Much respect to both coaches for playing The Beautiful Game. I think City will win the league, but about three teams now have shown how they can be beaten. They will not be able to score three goals against every defense.

They will have to change tactics when teams begin to press them high. Now that people know where the chi.nk (what bone-head murderator turned chi.nk into a swear word? :mad: :mad: ) in their armour lies, if they don't vary this pass the ball out of defense stuff, they will drop points and games before the season is over. As I said in another thread, Stones and Otamendi pass the ball to the opposition all the time--people just don't comment on it because it does not always result in a goal. In that thread, spastic came up with some lies, damn lies and statistics to show their high pass accuracy, but all it requires for one goal is one mistake even after you have passed the ball well 99% of the time.

In the next few games, teams can get some joy from putting pressure on Stones, whose confidence must be shaken right now--the penalty he gave up against Bristol must have been on his mind, that's why he let Firmino bully him off the ball so easily today. But I trust Pep to work on solutions with the City back four.

Re: LIVERPOOL VS CITY (4-3) FT

Posted: Sun Jan 14, 2018 8:43 pm
by ohsee
Coach wrote:@Chief Oga Tx, incase it has escaped one's awareness, Wilshere is back and has already reclaimed his royal standing. Lil' Prince, with choruses of Suuuuuper, super Jack, booming around the Vitality. Sadly, vitality escaped the young monarch and by the second-half, her was spent. Nevertheless, 45 minutes in a defeat to Bournemouth offers enough ammunition with which to fire shots at Liverpool's exaggerations of Alexander OC (poronounced Ohsee). Jack is back. Suuuuuuuuper, super Jack and repeat.
:rotf: :rotf: :rotf:
Useless man. :lol:

Re: LIVERPOOL VS CITY (4-3) FT

Posted: Sun Jan 14, 2018 9:05 pm
by Mr. Piffington
can04 wrote:
tfco wrote:
All good points. Which team is running way with the league, or does that not matter?
Footy fans are funny like that. TFCO has practically been in hiding for the past 3-4 months but now City lost a game after 23 games he comes out and starts beating his chest. Meanwhile that approach he advocates is the reason his team are 15 points behind the league leaders.

Re: LIVERPOOL VS CITY (4-3) FT

Posted: Sun Jan 14, 2018 9:12 pm
by Mr. Piffington
ohsee wrote:City and Liverpool are the best attacking teams in the PL--let me state the obvious. I wish they could meet again. Much respect to both coaches for playing The Beautiful Game. I think City will win the league, but about three teams now have shown how they can be beaten. They will not be able to score three goals against every defense.

They will have to change tactics when teams begin to press them high. Now that people know where the chi.nk (what bone-head murderator turned chi.nk into a swear word? :mad: :mad: ) in their armour lies, if they don't vary this pass the ball out of defense stuff, they will drop points and games before the season is over. As I said in another thread, Stones and Otamendi pass the ball to the opposition all the time--people just don't comment on it because it does not always result in a goal. In that thread, spastic came up with some lies, damn lies and statistics to show their high pass accuracy, but all it requires for one goal is one mistake even after you have passed the ball well 99% of the time.

In the next few games, teams can get some joy from putting pressure on Stones, whose confidence must be shaken right now--the penalty he gave up against Bristol must have been on his mind, that's why he let Firmino bully him off the ball so easily today. But I trust Pep to work on solutions with the City back four.
Oga ohsee, I disagree with you. The only thing teams should take from this game (and I'm surprised alot of people haven't figured yet) is that David Silva is still the heartbeat of this City team. That guy has to be the most underrated player in the world, it's unfortunate to him that he is a Spaniard and played in the same generation as Xavi and Iniesta otherwise he would be given the recognition he deserves. Every time he doesn't play it's obvious and when his name is not on a team sheet City will either lose or labor a win.

Teams will put pressure on City and they will be destroyed, don't let today fool you or anyone who tries. Pep's system revolves around punishing positional mistakes and there aren't many teams in the Prem that are talented enough or well drilled to do what Pool did today. Let me remind you that even though Liverpool won today and City had an off day they (City) were still plugging away and would have probably tied the game.

Re: LIVERPOOL VS CITY (4-3) FT

Posted: Sun Jan 14, 2018 10:30 pm
by Cellular
tfco wrote:
Hence, why they call him a football Coward.

Why would you in a club like United set up to defend against your closest rival with a club as deep as United?

Re: LIVERPOOL VS CITY (4-3) FT

Posted: Mon Jan 15, 2018 1:37 am
by ohsee
Mr. Piffington wrote:
ohsee wrote:City and Liverpool are the best attacking teams in the PL--let me state the obvious. I wish they could meet again. Much respect to both coaches for playing The Beautiful Game. I think City will win the league, but about three teams now have shown how they can be beaten. They will not be able to score three goals against every defense.

They will have to change tactics when teams begin to press them high. Now that people know where the chi.nk (what bone-head murderator turned chi.nk into a swear word? :mad: :mad: ) in their armour lies, if they don't vary this pass the ball out of defense stuff, they will drop points and games before the season is over. As I said in another thread, Stones and Otamendi pass the ball to the opposition all the time--people just don't comment on it because it does not always result in a goal. In that thread, spastic came up with some lies, damn lies and statistics to show their high pass accuracy, but all it requires for one goal is one mistake even after you have passed the ball well 99% of the time.

In the next few games, teams can get some joy from putting pressure on Stones, whose confidence must be shaken right now--the penalty he gave up against Bristol must have been on his mind, that's why he let Firmino bully him off the ball so easily today. But I trust Pep to work on solutions with the City back four.
Oga ohsee, I disagree with you. The only thing teams should take from this game (and I'm surprised alot of people haven't figured yet) is that David Silva is still the heartbeat of this City team. That guy has to be the most underrated player in the world, it's unfortunate to him that he is a Spaniard and played in the same generation as Xavi and Iniesta otherwise he would be given the recognition he deserves. Every time he doesn't play it's obvious and when his name is not on a team sheet City will either lose or labor a win.

Teams will put pressure on City and they will be destroyed, don't let today fool you or anyone who tries. Pep's system revolves around punishing positional mistakes and there aren't many teams in the Prem that are talented enough or well drilled to do what Pool did today. Let me remind you that even though Liverpool won today and City had an off day they (City) were still plugging away and would have probably tied the game.
Chief Piff, we live to see. In hindsight, this was coming; a lot of lousy teams have pressed City and caused them trouble. All it required was for a quality team to implement those lessons. The only reason they were able to make it interesting is that Liverpool has a lousy defense. If they meet another team that can defend and press, they are in trouble.

By the way, I started reading that book you recommended by Erik Reinert (finally). I like it so far. I'll let you know what I think when I am finished.

Re: LIVERPOOL VS CITY (4-3) FT

Posted: Mon Jan 15, 2018 5:27 am
by airwolex
I said it a few weeks back that Liverpool are the most exciting team in the Prem. There's no doubt about it; Man City is good but when the likes of Mane, Salah and Firmoni are bearing down on you it's a thing of beauty. Problem is their defenders and keeper. Does Klopp even want to sort it out? Maybe he is waiting on Kline to come back so Gomez can partner Van Dijk but they need to forget Lemar and all the other big name signings and go for a Keeper. If they do that they will close the gap on City considerably.

Re: LIVERPOOL VS CITY (4-3) FT

Posted: Mon Jan 15, 2018 6:39 am
by wanaj0
Cellular wrote:
tfco wrote:
Hence, why they call him a football Coward.

Why would you in a club like United set up to defend against your closest rival with a club as deep as United?
United is NOT deep in anyway. They've overpaid for some average players. You also have players who are not ready to push themselves to the limit. Look at the distance covered by the Pool players. How many United players have the work rate to do that? Don't even get me started with misplace passes. And check out the placement of the ball by Pool players. Too many carpenters in that United team.

Re: LIVERPOOL VS CITY (4-3) FT

Posted: Mon Jan 15, 2018 1:05 pm
by FATHER TIKO
Klopp's 'Jagdfussball' Hunting Football described by Subotic who played for Klopp at Mainz and Borussia Dortmund:

" In the first year, it was rather normal football, with a pinch of Klopp tactics. in the second year, it got spicier. In the third year: Boom! We reached a whole new level, because all 25 players now truly got it. Training felt like war. The starting eleven playing v the subs. You can't imagine how difficult these games were. You were used to having a bit of space and air to breathe but that was all gone. Everyone attacked the ball, everyone defended. Everyone pressed. These games were as hard as the real ones, perhaps even harder."

from Klopp: Bring the Noise
by Rafael Honigstein

Re: LIVERPOOL VS CITY (4-3) FT

Posted: Mon Jan 15, 2018 1:12 pm
by Gooner1
for me.....the best match of the season by far........it had everything
both coaches trying to outwit each other......players on both sides highly technical and ready to take chances
wow.....if only :sneaky:

Re: LIVERPOOL VS CITY (4-3) FT

Posted: Mon Jan 15, 2018 1:50 pm
by airwolex
wanaj0 wrote:
Cellular wrote:
tfco wrote:
Hence, why they call him a football Coward.

Why would you in a club like United set up to defend against your closest rival with a club as deep as United?
United is NOT deep in anyway. They've overpaid for some average players. You also have players who are not ready to push themselves to the limit. Look at the distance covered by the Pool players. How many United players have the work rate to do that? Don't even get me started with misplace passes. And check out the placement of the ball by Pool players. Too many carpenters in that United team.
Pogba, Miki, Martial, Valencia, Lukaku, Valencia and De Gea. How much deeper do you want to be? I like Jose, but he is doing a sub-par coaching job this season.

Re: LIVERPOOL VS CITY (4-3) FT

Posted: Mon Jan 15, 2018 1:54 pm
by danfo driver
Gooner1 wrote:for me.....the best match of the season by far........it had everything
both coaches trying to outwit each other......players on both sides highly technical and ready to take chances
wow.....if only :sneaky:
:lol: :lol:

We watched different match. What I saw was one team totally batter another team and the game should have ended 7-1. But another team showed tactical and defensive naïveté and miss chances, as well as conceded 2 stupid goals.

Re: LIVERPOOL VS CITY (4-3) FT

Posted: Mon Jan 15, 2018 3:14 pm
by Ayo Akinfe
I am glad we will be up against Otamendi and Loveren come the World Cup. Both are total liabilities!

Re: LIVERPOOL VS CITY (4-3) FT

Posted: Mon Jan 15, 2018 4:09 pm
by tfco
Mr. Piffington wrote:
can04 wrote:
tfco wrote:
All good points. Which team is running way with the league, or does that not matter?
Footy fans are funny like that. TFCO has practically been in hiding for the past 3-4 months but now City lost a game after 23 games he comes out and starts beating his chest. Meanwhile that approach he advocates is the reason his team are 15 points behind the league leaders.
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

my hiding period of 3 months....probably more posts than your active 2 years defending everything Pep

Re: LIVERPOOL VS CITY (4-3) FT

Posted: Mon Jan 15, 2018 4:11 pm
by tfco
Cellular wrote:
tfco wrote:
Hence, why they call him a football Coward.

Why would you in a club like United set up to defend against your closest rival with a club as deep as United?
list the squad depth.

i'll start you off

1. Martial/ Rashford
2.
3.

thank you

Re: LIVERPOOL VS CITY (4-3) FT

Posted: Mon Jan 15, 2018 4:12 pm
by tfco
airwolex wrote:
wanaj0 wrote:
Cellular wrote:
tfco wrote:
Hence, why they call him a football Coward.

Why would you in a club like United set up to defend against your closest rival with a club as deep as United?
United is NOT deep in anyway. They've overpaid for some average players. You also have players who are not ready to push themselves to the limit. Look at the distance covered by the Pool players. How many United players have the work rate to do that? Don't even get me started with misplace passes. And check out the placement of the ball by Pool players. Too many carpenters in that United team.
Pogba, Miki, Martial, Valencia, Lukaku, Valencia and De Gea. How much deeper do you want to be? I like Jose, but he is doing a sub-par coaching job this season.
depth...coming off the bench.

unless theres another meaning.

Re: LIVERPOOL VS CITY (4-3) FT

Posted: Mon Jan 15, 2018 4:20 pm
by tfco
zee wrote:
ohsee wrote:
Coach wrote:@Chief Oga Tx, nno! Congratulations, but what is the aversion with resting on one's laurels? But for the brush of a comb, Aguero heads in for 4-4, absolute madness.
Coach, they tried to rest on their laurels. Did you not see them remove Salah? City is a formidable team. They find a way. Please doff your hat to Pep. The man has bought an incredible team. :thumb:
Kpom to the fullest :clap: :clap:
corrected

Re: LIVERPOOL VS CITY (4-3) FT

Posted: Mon Jan 15, 2018 4:25 pm
by kastro11
Otamendi is such an average to poor CB. I expect this clown to get destroyed every 1v1 he's faced with. He's benefiting from playing in a team that dominates possession so he doesn't have to defend much. His decision making under pressure is brutal. Absolutely terrible performance.

I'd attack the $#% out of him when you lot meet Argentina in Russia. It makes sense how Argentina struggled to qualify when they have clowns like Otamendi in defence.

Re: LIVERPOOL VS CITY (4-3) FT

Posted: Mon Jan 15, 2018 4:25 pm
by zee
FATHER TIKO wrote:
Klopp's 'Jagdfussball' Hunting Football described by Subotic who played for Klopp at Mainz and Borussia Dortmund:

" In the first year, it was rather normal football, with a pinch of Klopp tactics. in the second year, it got spicier. In the third year: Boom! We reached a whole new level, because all 25 players now truly got it. Training felt like war. The starting eleven playing v the subs. You can't imagine how difficult these games were. You were used to having a bit of space and air to breathe but that was all gone. Everyone attacked the ball, everyone defended. Everyone pressed. These games were as hard as the real ones, perhaps even harder."

from Klopp: Bring the Noise
by Rafael Honigstein
:clap: :clap: :clap:
Watched his 1st year with Mainz(Dean got them to the Bundesliga) and I knew that I am watching Dean Hitzfeld's successor.

Re: LIVERPOOL VS CITY (4-3) FT

Posted: Mon Jan 15, 2018 4:43 pm
by anikulapo
zee wrote:
FATHER TIKO wrote:
Klopp's 'Jagdfussball' Hunting Football described by Subotic who played for Klopp at Mainz and Borussia Dortmund:

" In the first year, it was rather normal football, with a pinch of Klopp tactics. in the second year, it got spicier. In the third year: Boom! We reached a whole new level, because all 25 players now truly got it. Training felt like war. The starting eleven playing v the subs. You can't imagine how difficult these games were. You were used to having a bit of space and air to breathe but that was all gone. Everyone attacked the ball, everyone defended. Everyone pressed. These games were as hard as the real ones, perhaps even harder."

from Klopp: Bring the Noise
by Rafael Honigstein
:clap: :clap: :clap:
Watched his 1st year with Mainz(Dean got them to the Bundesliga) and I knew that I am watching Dean Hitzfeld's successor.

You mean you watched him when he got Mainz relegated? Ok :taunt:

Re: LIVERPOOL VS CITY (4-3) FT

Posted: Mon Jan 15, 2018 4:59 pm
by Bigpokey24
to me MO=Salah is the best player in England this season.. the guy scares the crap out of everyone. bobo is the Messi of the EPL etc..whata player... and then Mane kai.... Pool is going to become a team many Africans go begin support, ( Salah, Mane, Matip and then Keita)

Re: LIVERPOOL VS CITY (4-3) FT

Posted: Mon Jan 15, 2018 5:04 pm
by danfo driver
tfco wrote:
zee wrote:
ohsee wrote:
Coach wrote:@Chief Oga Tx, nno! Congratulations, but what is the aversion with resting on one's laurels? But for the brush of a comb, Aguero heads in for 4-4, absolute madness.
Coach, they tried to rest on their laurels. Did you not see them remove Salah? City is a formidable team. They find a way. Please doff your hat to Pep. The man has bought an incredible team. :thumb:
Kpom to the fullest :clap: :clap:
corrected
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: And he is begging to buy Sanchez to replace Jesus who is injured and will return in 2 weeks. :lol: :lol: :oops: :oops:

Check book fecker!

Re: LIVERPOOL VS CITY (4-3) FT

Posted: Mon Jan 15, 2018 5:05 pm
by danfo driver
kastro11 wrote:Otamendi is such an average to poor CB. I expect this clown to get destroyed every 1v1 he's faced with. He's benefiting from playing in a team that dominates possession so he doesn't have to defend much. His decision making under pressure is brutal. Absolutely terrible performance.

I'd attack the $#% out of him when you lot meet Argentina in Russia. It makes sense how Argentina struggled to qualify when they have clowns like Otamendi in defence.
Remember what Iwobi did to him and mascherano. he got so frustrated and his a little child (Iheanacho) :lol: