Sadiq Umar hangs again

[The YeyeMan]

His coach should be biatched-slapped if he continues to bring him off the bench.

Funny you should say that.

Sadiq started against Feyenoord. He assisted on the equalizing goal .... and scored the winner (penalty). Not sure how long this video will be available:

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PS: Where is the agent-hunter john12 these days?

Not sure that was technically an assist on the first goal... look like the keeper palmed it into the goal scorer's path. Nice theatrics to win the penalty though, and it was well taken.

[mystic]

Actually sort of own that penalty. Very odd penalty. The ball seemed to be nowhere in sight. Umar was a nyisance throughout and seems to have improved his ball control.

I agree.
He seems to have added an element of aggression to his game which is great.

He has always had this
viewtopic.php?f=1&t=283666&p=5107303&hi ... +#p5107303
This guy bullies defenders all the time
Also he makes these lovely surging runs from deep which no one seems to notice
I think his height and lanky frame cause people to underestimate his strength and speed!
Crazy to me he hasn't been invited to the SE camp under Rohr

Yeah, you've always been a great fan of Umar. I'm not quite sold on his physicality just yet and still believe he gets knocked off his feet too easily. Maybe its his high centre of gravity.
But he's getting better, stronger and more experienced.
If he adds a mean streak to his game he could become an absolute beast.

@Damunk: You are right. If the guy would have that body build Yekini has then it would be different. I always feel his opponents always have it easy knocking him off balance.....

I'm sorry, but you guys (Damunk, Next) don't know what you're talking about.

Just say you disagree, be specific on what you disagree with and make your case.
Simple.
Today is Sunday.

Nope.

There are cases where folks just have to agree to disagree; and there are cases where folks just plain don't know what they're talking about. And this one is the latter.

Mind you, I'm not out to shoot you down as I do respect your opinions and always look forward to reading your contributions. However you are off base in your evaluation of Sadiq because you are focused on the wrong thing.

For a player of Sadiq's frame and body type physicality is the last thing you worry about because that will almost always come as he gets older and grows into his body. What you should be focused on is his skill set, his football intelligence, his natural tools (size, speed, power, explosiveness, for instance) and his intangibles (work ethic, mental make-up etc).

Focus on these and get back to me with your thoughts.

Have a blessed Sunday.

[Next]

He has always had this
viewtopic.php?f=1&t=283666&p=5107303&hi ... +#p5107303
This guy bullies defenders all the time
Also he makes these lovely surging runs from deep which no one seems to notice
I think his height and lanky frame cause people to underestimate his strength and speed!
Crazy to me he hasn't been invited to the SE camp under Rohr

Yeah, you've always been a great fan of Umar. I'm not quite sold on his physicality just yet and still believe he gets knocked off his feet too easily. Maybe its his high centre of gravity.
But he's getting better, stronger and more experienced.
If he adds a mean streak to his game he could become an absolute beast.

@Damunk: You are right. If the guy would have that body build Yekini has then it would be different. I always feel his opponents always have it easy knocking him off balance.....

I'm sorry, but you guys (Damunk, Next) don't know what you're talking about.

Just say you disagree, be specific on what you disagree with and make your case.
Simple.
Today is Sunday.

Nope.

There are cases where folks just have to agree to disagree; and there are cases where folks just plain don't know what they're talking about. And this one is the latter.

Mind you, I'm not out to shoot you down as I do respect your opinions and always look forward to reading your contributions. However you are off base in your evaluation of Sadiq because you are focused on the wrong thing.

For a player of Sadiq's frame and body type physicality is the last thing you worry about because that will almost always come as he gets older and grows into his body. What you should be focused on is his skill set, his football intelligence, his natural tools (size, speed, power, explosiveness, for instance) and his intangibles (work ethic, mental make-up etc).

Focus on these and get back to me with your thoughts.

Have a blessed Sunday.

@mystic: Neither Damunk nor I are doubting his skills or abilities (at lease that's my assumption). So we basically know what we are saying, unless of course if you are out to school me on that. What Damunk and I said was his tripping most of the time, his not able to maintain his balance when he is on the ball (of course he's got speed etc.) I still maintain he gets knock off the ball easily (go and watch most if not all his videos, even during the Rio Games)Though he did very well but it could have been more better if (I still maintain) he has that body Frame like Yekini or Drogba. He is not Messi, whose body frame is not like those two mentioned but can still turn opponents inside out...

Cheers

[Enugu II]

This is one player that should be called up along with Joel Obi. That is my opinion.

[mystic]

He has always had this
viewtopic.php?f=1&t=283666&p=5107303&hi ... +#p5107303
This guy bullies defenders all the time
Also he makes these lovely surging runs from deep which no one seems to notice
I think his height and lanky frame cause people to underestimate his strength and speed!
Crazy to me he hasn't been invited to the SE camp under Rohr

Yeah, you've always been a great fan of Umar. I'm not quite sold on his physicality just yet and still believe he gets knocked off his feet too easily. Maybe its his high centre of gravity.
But he's getting better, stronger and more experienced.
If he adds a mean streak to his game he could become an absolute beast.

@Damunk: You are right. If the guy would have that body build Yekini has then it would be different. I always feel his opponents always have it easy knocking him off balance.....

I'm sorry, but you guys (Damunk, Next) don't know what you're talking about.

Just say you disagree, be specific on what you disagree with and make your case.
Simple.
Today is Sunday.

Nope.

There are cases where folks just have to agree to disagree; and there are cases where folks just plain don't know what they're talking about. And this one is the latter.

Mind you, I'm not out to shoot you down as I do respect your opinions and always look forward to reading your contributions. However you are off base in your evaluation of Sadiq because you are focused on the wrong thing.

For a player of Sadiq's frame and body type physicality is the last thing you worry about because that will almost always come as he gets older and grows into his body. What you should be focused on is his skill set, his football intelligence, his natural tools (size, speed, power, explosiveness, for instance) and his intangibles (work ethic, mental make-up etc).

Focus on these and get back to me with your thoughts.

Have a blessed Sunday.

@mystic: Neither Damunk nor I are doubting his skills or abilities (at lease that's my assumption). So we basically know what we are saying, unless of course if you are out to school me on that. What Damunk and I said was his tripping most of the time, his not able to maintain his balance when he is on the ball (of course he's got speed etc.) I still maintain he gets knock off the ball easily (go and watch most if not all his videos, even during the Rio Games)Though he did very well but it could have been more better if (I still maintain) he has that body Frame like Yekini or Drogba. He is not Messi, whose body frame is not like those two mentioned but can still turn opponents inside out...

Cheers

Understood. But the more he grows into his body and matures, his strength and coordination will improve. Thus he'll be able to stay on his feet more. Most big athletes go through this.

[Next]

This guy bullies defenders all the time
Also he makes these lovely surging runs from deep which no one seems to notice
I think his height and lanky frame cause people to underestimate his strength and speed!
Crazy to me he hasn't been invited to the SE camp under Rohr[/quote]Yeah, you've always been a great fan of Umar. I'm not quite sold on his physicality just yet and still believe he gets knocked off his feet too easily. Maybe its his high centre of gravity.
But he's getting better, stronger and more experienced.
If he adds a mean streak to his game he could become an absolute beast.[/quote]

@Damunk: You are right. If the guy would have that body build Yekini has then it would be different. I always feel his opponents always have it easy knocking him off balance.....[/quote]


I'm sorry, but you guys (Damunk, Next) don't know what you're talking about.[/quote]Just say you disagree, be specific on what you disagree with and make your case.
Simple.
Today is Sunday.[/quote]


Nope.

There are cases where folks just have to agree to disagree; and there are cases where folks just plain don't know what they're talking about. And this one is the latter.

Mind you, I'm not out to shoot you down as I do respect your opinions and always look forward to reading your contributions. However you are off base in your evaluation of Sadiq because you are focused on the wrong thing.

For a player of Sadiq's frame and body type physicality is the last thing you worry about because that will almost always come as he gets older and grows into his body. What you should be focused on is his skill set, his football intelligence, his natural tools (size, speed, power, explosiveness, for instance) and his intangibles (work ethic, mental make-up etc).

Focus on these and get back to me with your thoughts.

Have a blessed Sunday.[/quote]


@mystic: Neither Damunk nor I are doubting his skills or abilities (at lease that's my assumption). So we basically know what we are saying, unless of course if you are out to school me on that. What Damunk and I said was his tripping most of the time, his not able to maintain his balance when he is on the ball (of course he's got speed etc.) I still maintain he gets knock off the ball easily (go and watch most if not all his videos, even during the Rio Games)Though he did very well but it could have been more better if (I still maintain) he has that body Frame like Yekini or Drogba. He is not Messi, whose body frame is not like those two mentioned but can still turn opponents inside out...

Cheers[/quote]


Understood. But the more he grows into his body and matures, his strength and coordination will improve. Thus he'll be able to stay on his feet more. Most big athletes go through this.[/quote]


That's the point we are making.. It was only an observation and not a criticism of Sadiq and i also believe he could and would be an option for the SE in Russia...

[john12]

He seems like his a decent player but sorry his as.s must wait until World Cup is over to be considered. Super eagles is not a place to accept prostitutes, Thots, Oloshos etc. if you want to play at the World Cup you must hustle like everyone else in WCQ. The only exceptions are Exceptional and Experienced players everyone else must wait for thier turn

[Chief Ogbunigwe]

He seems like his a decent player but sorry his as.s must wait until World Cup is over to be considered. Super eagles is not a place to accept prostitutes, Thots, Oloshos etc. if you want to play at the World Cup you must hustle like everyone else in WCQ. The only exceptions are Exceptional and Experienced players everyone else must wait for thier turn

Agency don close?

[Chief Ogbunigwe]

Actually sort of own that penalty. Very odd penalty. The ball seemed to be nowhere in sight. Umar was a nyisance throughout and seems to have improved his ball control.

I agree.
He seems to have added an element of aggression to his game which is great.

He has always had this
viewtopic.php?f=1&t=283666&p=5107303&hi ... +#p5107303
This guy bullies defenders all the time
Also he makes these lovely surging runs from deep which no one seems to notice
I think his height and lanky frame cause people to underestimate his strength and speed!
Crazy to me he hasn't been invited to the SE camp under Rohr

Yeah, you've always been a great fan of Umar. I'm not quite sold on his physicality just yet and still believe he gets knocked off his feet too easily. Maybe its his high centre of gravity.
But he's getting better, stronger and more experienced.
If he adds a mean streak to his game he could become an absolute beast.

@Damunk: You are right. If the guy would have that body build Yekini has then it would be different. I always feel his opponents always have it easy knocking him off balance.....

I'm sorry, but you guys (Damunk, Next) don't know what you're talking about.

Just say you disagree, be specific on what you disagree with and make your case.
Simple.
Today is Sunday.

we no fit abuse person on Sunday again, ah ah?

[ogasir]

If he can improve his ball control and get stronger physically, he will be a beast. Those are the two ingredients he is missing.

[pajimoh]

Umar seem to be very theatrical and goes to ground too easily. Dele is not even this bad

[bret- hart]

He is not ready for prime time

[The Eagle]

Umar seem to be very theatrical and goes to ground too easily. Dele is not even this bad

Yeah, folks are arguing about whether he is too easy to push off the ball .... but 50% of the time he fell in the clip, he looked like he was trained in Italian academies to fall the moment he feels the slightest touch. I am not fond of players who do that .... but I admit I would hypocritically come to terms with it if a striker on my team used simulation to win a penalty, a free kick in a dangerous area, or brought an opposing attack to an end by making the referee call a foul on an opposing attacker.

The other 50% of his falls might be a failure to organize his gangly legs properly .... or if you want to be charitable (i.e. give him an "assist" unlike TheYeyeman ), you could say it might be the effect of trying to take shots from difficult angles.

I think he is a promising player anyway. It is early days, but NAC Breda could be the place we see him play regularly and consistently, and thus be able to form opinions on his future prospects as a would-be senior international.

[smartbrother]

^^90% of his falls are theatrical attempts at drawing fouls and winning free kicks
He reminds me of drogba in his earlier days
He needs to cut that side of his game out before he gets a reputation

[pajimoh]

Umar seem to be very theatrical and goes to ground too easily. Dele is not even this bad

Yeah, folks are arguing about whether he is too easy to push off the ball .... but 50% of the time he fell in the clip, he looked like he was trained in Italian academies to fall the moment he feels the slightest touch. I am not fond of players who do that .... but I admit I would hypocritically come to terms with it if a striker on my team used simulation to win a penalty, a free kick in a dangerous area, or brought an opposing attack to an end by making the referee call a foul on an opposing attacker.

The other 50% of his falls might be a failure to organize his gangly legs properly .... or if you want to be charitable (i.e. give him an "assist" unlike TheYeyeman ), you could say it might be the effect of trying to take shots from difficult angles.

I think he is a promising player anyway. It is early days, but NAC Breda could be the place we see him play regularly and consistently, and thus be able to form opinions on his future prospects as a would-be senior international.

I was thinking when England get to the wc, in a must win game Alli is fouled in the 18 but does his best to stay on his feet and no pen is awarded. England end up losing the match.
When they ask him why didn't you go down when you were fouled? A priceless reply - in England they hate it when I fall in the 18

[The YeyeMan]

Umar seem to be very theatrical and goes to ground too easily. Dele is not even this bad

Yeah, folks are arguing about whether he is too easy to push off the ball .... but 50% of the time he fell in the clip, he looked like he was trained in Italian academies to fall the moment he feels the slightest touch. I am not fond of players who do that .... but I admit I would hypocritically come to terms with it if a striker on my team used simulation to win a penalty, a free kick in a dangerous area, or brought an opposing attack to an end by making the referee call a foul on an opposing attacker.

The other 50% of his falls might be a failure to organize his gangly legs properly .... or if you want to be charitable (i.e. give him an "assist" unlike TheYeyeman ), you could say it might be the effect of trying to take shots from difficult angles.

I think he is a promising player anyway. It is early days, but NAC Breda could be the place we see him play regularly and consistently, and thus be able to form opinions on his future prospects as a would-be senior international.

Hello Mr. The Eagle, how now?

Do you remember this time four years ago we were doing our best to ween Cellular off Shola Ameobi? We didn't succeed but we were right in the long run.

Who should be the non-scoring support striker we take this time?

[The YeyeMan]

Umar seem to be very theatrical and goes to ground too easily. Dele is not even this bad

Yeah, folks are arguing about whether he is too easy to push off the ball .... but 50% of the time he fell in the clip, he looked like he was trained in Italian academies to fall the moment he feels the slightest touch. I am not fond of players who do that .... but I admit I would hypocritically come to terms with it if a striker on my team used simulation to win a penalty, a free kick in a dangerous area, or brought an opposing attack to an end by making the referee call a foul on an opposing attacker.

The other 50% of his falls might be a failure to organize his gangly legs properly .... or if you want to be charitable (i.e. give him an "assist" unlike TheYeyeman ), you could say it might be the effect of trying to take shots from difficult angles.

I think he is a promising player anyway. It is early days, but NAC Breda could be the place we see him play regularly and consistently, and thus be able to form opinions on his future prospects as a would-be senior international.

I was thinking when England get to the wc, in a must win game Alli is fouled in the 18 but does his best to stay on his feet and no pen is awarded. England end up losing the match.
When they ask him why didn't you go down when you were fouled? A priceless reply - in England they hate it when I fall in the 18

We don't care about England or Spurs.

[pajimoh]

Umar seem to be very theatrical and goes to ground too easily. Dele is not even this bad

Yeah, folks are arguing about whether he is too easy to push off the ball .... but 50% of the time he fell in the clip, he looked like he was trained in Italian academies to fall the moment he feels the slightest touch. I am not fond of players who do that .... but I admit I would hypocritically come to terms with it if a striker on my team used simulation to win a penalty, a free kick in a dangerous area, or brought an opposing attack to an end by making the referee call a foul on an opposing attacker.

The other 50% of his falls might be a failure to organize his gangly legs properly .... or if you want to be charitable (i.e. give him an "assist" unlike TheYeyeman ), you could say it might be the effect of trying to take shots from difficult angles.

I think he is a promising player anyway. It is early days, but NAC Breda could be the place we see him play regularly and consistently, and thus be able to form opinions on his future prospects as a would-be senior international.

I was thinking when England get to the wc, in a must win game Alli is fouled in the 18 but does his best to stay on his feet and no pen is awarded. England end up losing the match.
When they ask him why didn't you go down when you were fouled? A priceless reply - in England they hate it when I fall in the 18

We don't care about England or Spurs.

But we care about Arsenal to keep crying every week and praying for a pensioner to be sacked Ungodly people wishing ill on a poor old man

[The Eagle]

Hello Mr. The Eagle, how now?

Do you remember this time four years ago we were doing our best to ween Cellular off Shola Ameobi? We didn't succeed but we were right in the long run.

Who should be the non-scoring support striker we take this time?

My brother, how body?

No need to look far, as a quick search indicates Shola Ameobi is still an active professional, on the books of Notts County in the English 4th tier.

So, if john12 can be persuaded, I suggest Ameobi reprise his leadership role from 2014. But only if john12 agrees.

[Dammy]

Sadiq Umar made the Team of the Week in the Dutch Eredivisie.

[The YeyeMan]

No need to look far, as a quick search indicates Shola Ameobi is still an active professional, on the books of Notts County in the English 4th tier.

Cellular must never ever see this thread.