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you no well i swear :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf:

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We have been brainwashed by the Premier League that it's the best in the world. Nonsense. It's the best brand
Roy Keane: ITV 02/25/14

He says that we are currently "brainwashed" into believing that the Premier League is the best competition in the world, and that we are now a long way off dominating the Champions League again.
Gary Neville: Mirror: 12/23/14

I think Spain’s by far the best league.
Scholes. UK Guardian 9/6/16


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PostPosted: Sun Apr 15, 2018 10:23 pm 
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Joint earliest league win

Potentially highest points ever in the league
Highest number of goals scored


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PostPosted: Mon Apr 16, 2018 12:11 am 
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More steak for some of you to lose your minds over :lol:

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Pep Guardiola was told to adapt – instead he bent English football to his will


https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/sport/pep-guardiola-was-told-to-adapt-instead-he-bent-english-football-to-his-will-pqsbx5xf7

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Roy Keane: ITV 02/25/14

He says that we are currently "brainwashed" into believing that the Premier League is the best competition in the world, and that we are now a long way off dominating the Champions League again.
Gary Neville: Mirror: 12/23/14

I think Spain’s by far the best league.
Scholes. UK Guardian 9/6/16


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PostPosted: Mon Apr 16, 2018 12:52 am 
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Hmm, methinks this video was made for last week's derby with the presumption that City would win that game and the EPL then. :)

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Many people are taxed about the "revolutionizing" comment. Some are mixing up "revolutionizing" with winning. You can win without "revolutionizing". You can "revolutionize" without winning. One of the most "revolutionizing" coaches is Marcelo Bielsa and he doesn't have that may titles to his name. "Revolutionizing" is about changing the way the game is played - stuff like sweepers were brought in by "revolutionizing" coaches, overlapping fullbacks, wing-backs, etc, building from the back with the goalie, defensive high line, high press, etc are about "revolutionizing". If you "revolutionize" and win, many will copy you.

Wenger was a "revolutionizing" coach in England when he first came.

Our Gary agrees with me.

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"I think unquestionably Guardiola will influence the style of football in this country," Lineker said.

"Not only is it pleasing on the eye, but it's bringing success.

"We all know that success is copied and imitated by other teams, other coaches and children playing the game."

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/43789027

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 16, 2018 9:17 pm 
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Many people are taxed about the "revolutionizing" comment. Some are mixing up "revolutionizing" with winning. You can win without "revolutionizing". You can "revolutionize" without winning. One of the most "revolutionizing" coaches is Marcelo Bielsa and he doesn't have that may titles to his name. "Revolutionizing" is about changing the way the game is played - stuff like sweepers were brought in by "revolutionizing" coaches, overlapping fullbacks, wing-backs, etc, building from the back with the goalie, defensive high line, high press, etc are about "revolutionizing". If you "revolutionize" and win, many will copy you.

Wenger was a "revolutionizing" coach in England when he first came.

Our Gary agrees with me.

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"I think unquestionably Guardiola will influence the style of football in this country," Lineker said.

"Not only is it pleasing on the eye, but it's bringing success.

"We all know that success is copied and imitated by other teams, other coaches and children playing the game."

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/43789027


Who will copy .......bus parking :bump:

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Joint earliest league win

Potentially highest points ever in the league
Highest number of goals scored

After spending 600M Pounds...STERLING...

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After spending 600M Pounds...STERLING...

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But he didn't spend a penny on Sterling :lol:
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 17, 2018 12:41 pm 
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After spending 600M Pounds...STERLING...

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Conte spent 260M this season and he is almost 30points behind almost certain to miss top 4
Mourinho has spent over 300M yet to win just one, he is double digits behind


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cic old boy wrote:
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Many people are taxed about the "revolutionizing" comment. Some are mixing up "revolutionizing" with winning. You can win without "revolutionizing". You can "revolutionize" without winning. One of the most "revolutionizing" coaches is Marcelo Bielsa and he doesn't have that may titles to his name. "Revolutionizing" is about changing the way the game is played - stuff like sweepers were brought in by "revolutionizing" coaches, overlapping fullbacks, wing-backs, etc, building from the back with the goalie, defensive high line, high press, etc are about "revolutionizing". If you "revolutionize" and win, many will copy you.

Wenger was a "revolutionizing" coach in England when he first came.

Our Gary agrees with me.

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"I think unquestionably Guardiola will influence the style of football in this country," Lineker said.

"Not only is it pleasing on the eye, but it's bringing success.

"We all know that success is copied and imitated by other teams, other coaches and children playing the game."

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/43789027


Gary Lineker ... :lol: :lol:

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 17, 2018 1:22 pm 
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Many people are taxed about the "revolutionizing" comment. Some are mixing up "revolutionizing" with winning. You can win without "revolutionizing". You can "revolutionize" without winning. One of the most "revolutionizing" coaches is Marcelo Bielsa and he doesn't have that may titles to his name. "Revolutionizing" is about changing the way the game is played - stuff like sweepers were brought in by "revolutionizing" coaches, overlapping fullbacks, wing-backs, etc, building from the back with the goalie, defensive high line, high press, etc are about "revolutionizing". If you "revolutionize" and win, many will copy you.

Wenger was a "revolutionizing" coach in England when he first came.

Pep agrees with me on Bielsa. Great football minds think alike. :thumbs:

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However, Cruyff is by no means the only influence. Another is Argentine Marcelo Bielsa, the man known affectionately as 'El Loco' - the madman.

The former Chile and Argentina boss - most recently the head coach of Lille at club level - is a man of huge influence but relatively few trophies.

"It is important for me to say this about Marcelo because it doesn't matter how many titles he had in his career," Guardiola has said.

"We are judged by that - how much success we have, how many titles we have won. But his titles are much less important than how he has influenced football and his football players. That is why, for me, he is the best coach in the world."

Bielsa told Guardiola during an 11-hour chat at the Argentine's villa that football is all about an idea, fighting for it, improving players, and never losing the passion.

The rest of the article is a great read: http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/43486412

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paj wrote:
After spending 600M Pounds...STERLING...

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Conte spent 260M this season and he is almost 30points behind almost certain to miss top 4
Mourinho has spent over 300M yet to win just one, he is double digits behind



Conte na special case. Typical example of hiring gone wrong. :taunt:

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While players like Pogba, Martial, Alexis, Mata are getting worse under Mourinho


This is what ESPN researched about players under Guardiola

It was Raheem Sterling's 22nd goal of the season. He had doubled his previous best tally
But he has company. Around an hour earlier, Ilkay Gundogan converted a penalty. His sixth goal of the season was a new personal best. Another German, Leroy Sane, had already rattled the post. His total stayed at 13, still a career high. Injury deprived Sergio Aguero of the chance to participate; otherwise he may have closed in on his biggest haul of 33 which, nevertheless, came under Guardiola's management.

It is part of a trend that dates back a decade. Players become more prolific under Guardiola; not all, obviously, but sizeable numbers, many of whom score far more than before. Thomas Muller, Mario Mandzukic and Arjen Robben -- with 32, 26 and 21, respectively -- had their finest scoring season in his Bayern Munich teams. So, at Barcelona, did Andres Iniesta (nine), Bojan Krkic (12), Xavi (14), Pedro (23) and Lionel Messi (a ludicrous 73).

The Argentinian is the great outlier. Yet it is notable both that, pre-Guardiola, his highest total was 17 and that he improved year on year under a mentor: 38 in his first year, followed by 47, 53 and then 73. But in a way Xavi is as indicative, a distributor becoming a scorer for Guardiola. The playmaker never got more than seven goals in a season for Barcelona under any other manager. Like Sterling, he doubled that for Guardiola.

http://www.espn.com/soccer/club/manches ... -guardiola


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Kaiser1 wrote:
While players like Pogba, Martial, Alexis, Mata are getting worse under Mourinho


This is what ESPN researched about players under Guardiola

It was Raheem Sterling's 22nd goal of the season. He had doubled his previous best tally
But he has company. Around an hour earlier, Ilkay Gundogan converted a penalty. His sixth goal of the season was a new personal best. Another German, Leroy Sane, had already rattled the post. His total stayed at 13, still a career high. Injury deprived Sergio Aguero of the chance to participate; otherwise he may have closed in on his biggest haul of 33 which, nevertheless, came under Guardiola's management.

It is part of a trend that dates back a decade. Players become more prolific under Guardiola; not all, obviously, but sizeable numbers, many of whom score far more than before. Thomas Muller, Mario Mandzukic and Arjen Robben -- with 32, 26 and 21, respectively -- had their finest scoring season in his Bayern Munich teams. So, at Barcelona, did Andres Iniesta (nine), Bojan Krkic (12), Xavi (14), Pedro (23) and Lionel Messi (a ludicrous 73).

The Argentinian is the great outlier. Yet it is notable both that, pre-Guardiola, his highest total was 17 and that he improved year on year under a mentor: 38 in his first year, followed by 47, 53 and then 73. But in a way Xavi is as indicative, a distributor becoming a scorer for Guardiola. The playmaker never got more than seven goals in a season for Barcelona under any other manager. Like Sterling, he doubled that for Guardiola.

http://www.espn.com/soccer/club/manches ... -guardiola


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