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Men that is scary. Na him go face Messi?


Game will be over after 20 mins...

Hopefully Rohr has a plan B


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This is the recent freekick goal that is probably causing Akpeyi sleepless nights.


:rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: oh my this keeper nah one in a million chei :lol: :lol: :lol: he positioned himself the same spot where the ball went to ..kai we don finish :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Didn't The almighty enyeama concede a similar goal against south korea in 2010 world cup??? Check out their second goal. Stop the double standard



does that make the mistake less egregious?[/quote]

One wonders why some Nigerians tend to have a one-track mind. The issue at hand is the goalkeeping gaffe from a freekick by Akpeyi in a recent league match. I did not post the thread. I stumbled on the video via a sports journalist I follow on Twitter, and decided to post it for perspective. And you bring in Enyeama? I need to understand. Akpeyi vs Enyeama? Really? :clap: :clap: :?

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Look, my point is all keepers make such mistakes. Did anyone criticise enyeama when he let in those cheap goals against France,south Korea and Greece?


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Look, my point is all keepers make such mistakes.

Repeatedly?

And this is elementary stuff.

He's just good enough. A huge climb down from Enyeama, several levels below Ikeme, and actually no better than Ezenwa.

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 05, 2018 9:53 pm 
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Obong wrote:
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Didn't The almighty enyeama concede a similar goal against south korea in 2010 world cup??? Check out their second goal. Stop the double standard



does that make the mistake less egregious?


One wonders why some Nigerians tend to have a one-track mind. The issue at hand is the goalkeeping gaffe from a freekick by Akpeyi in a recent league match. I did not post the thread. I stumbled on the video via a sports journalist I follow on Twitter, and decided to post it for perspective. And you bring in Enyeama? I need to understand. Akpeyi vs Enyeama? Really? :clap: :clap: :?[/quote]

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If a player is hated in CE then every mistake must be noted. It does not matter that others may make a similar error.

What matters is that he's a poor GK.

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If a player is hated in CE then every mistake must be noted. It does not matter that others may make a similar error.

What matters is that he's a poor GK.


Yeyeman,

I do not rate him but sometimes I feel that his past is used to judge his performance in every game. That is just unacceptable, IMHO, if we are to be fair in evaluating performance. Go back and re-watch the Argentina game. The guy was not as bad as claimed here in CE beyond his mental error that led to the FK. Yet all you read on CE is that he was so poor in that game.

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Chief Ogbunigwe wrote:
Obong wrote:
This is the recent freekick goal that is probably causing Akpeyi sleepless nights.




that was a disgraceful goal to concede.


Seriously? You armchair loud mouth. How’s this freekick different from the one that Messi fired past Enyeama in Brazil :?: :!:


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Enugu II wrote:
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If a player is hated in CE then every mistake must be noted. It does not matter that others may make a similar error.

What matters is that he's a poor GK.


Yeyeman,

I do not rate him but sometimes I feel that his past is used to judge his performance in every game. That is just unacceptable, IMHO, if we are to be fair in evaluating performance. Go back and re-watch the Argentina game. The guy was not as bad as claimed here in CE beyond his mental error that led to the FK. Yet all you read on CE is that he was so poor in that game.

My fren, generally you might be right. But his past is used to judge his ability. The present is used to evaluate his current level of performance. That free kick in the video is a poor goal for a GK to concede.

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The YeyeMan wrote:
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Enugu II wrote:
If a player is hated in CE then every mistake must be noted. It does not matter that others may make a similar error.

What matters is that he's a poor GK.


Yeyeman,

I do not rate him but sometimes I feel that his past is used to judge his performance in every game. That is just unacceptable, IMHO, if we are to be fair in evaluating performance. Go back and re-watch the Argentina game. The guy was not as bad as claimed here in CE beyond his mental error that led to the FK. Yet all you read on CE is that he was so poor in that game.

My fren, generally you might be right. But his past is used to judge his ability. The present is used to evaluate his current level of performance. That free kick in the video is a poor goal for a GK to concede.


That is the point. Yes, you can use the past and the pattern built up to judge his overall ability. But in one game you use his performance in that game to judge. That was the big error in several evaluations of his performance v Argentina.

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Enugu II wrote:
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Enugu II wrote:
The YeyeMan wrote:
Enugu II wrote:
If a player is hated in CE then every mistake must be noted. It does not matter that others may make a similar error.

What matters is that he's a poor GK.


Yeyeman,

I do not rate him but sometimes I feel that his past is used to judge his performance in every game. That is just unacceptable, IMHO, if we are to be fair in evaluating performance. Go back and re-watch the Argentina game. The guy was not as bad as claimed here in CE beyond his mental error that led to the FK. Yet all you read on CE is that he was so poor in that game.

My fren, generally you might be right. But his past is used to judge his ability. The present is used to evaluate his current level of performance. That free kick in the video is a poor goal for a GK to concede.


That is the point. Yes, you can use the past and the pattern built up to judge his overall ability. But in one game you use his performance in that game to judge. That was the big error in several evaluations of his performance v Argentina.

He conceded two goals in the 45 minutes he played. One a very, soft goal. And GKs who commit errors which lead to goals will always be judged harshly.

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The YeyeMan wrote:
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The YeyeMan wrote:
Enugu II wrote:
The YeyeMan wrote:
Enugu II wrote:
If a player is hated in CE then every mistake must be noted. It does not matter that others may make a similar error.

What matters is that he's a poor GK.


Yeyeman,

I do not rate him but sometimes I feel that his past is used to judge his performance in every game. That is just unacceptable, IMHO, if we are to be fair in evaluating performance. Go back and re-watch the Argentina game. The guy was not as bad as claimed here in CE beyond his mental error that led to the FK. Yet all you read on CE is that he was so poor in that game.

My fren, generally you might be right. But his past is used to judge his ability. The present is used to evaluate his current level of performance. That free kick in the video is a poor goal for a GK to concede.


That is the point. Yes, you can use the past and the pattern built up to judge his overall ability. But in one game you use his performance in that game to judge. That was the big error in several evaluations of his performance v Argentina.

He conceded two goals in the 45 minutes he played. One a very, soft goal. And GKs who commit errors which lead to goals will always be judged harshly.


That I disagree. His bravely actually prevented Nigeria being further behind in that half when the team was virtually overrun for a while. I am not sure which one is a soft goal -- the cross that was connected deep inside the box or the FK that was taken from the edge of the box? IMHO, none of those could be considered soft by any stretch.

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That I disagree. His bravely actually prevented Nigeria being further behind in that half when the team was virtually overrun for a while. I am not sure which one is a soft goal -- the cross that was connected deep inside the box or the FK that was taken from the edge of the box? IMHO, none of those could be considered soft by any stretch.

The free kick with the poorly-positioned wall that he stood behind and thus allowed the free-kick taker to pass the ball into the net with ease. That one.

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That I disagree. His bravely actually prevented Nigeria being further behind in that half when the team was virtually overrun for a while. I am not sure which one is a soft goal -- the cross that was connected deep inside the box or the FK that was taken from the edge of the box? IMHO, none of those could be considered soft by any stretch.

The free kick with the poorly-positioned wall that he stood behind and thus allowed the free-kick taker to pass the ball into the net with ease. That one.


Ok. IMHO, he invited the ball to be played in the open space (an attempt to suck the kicker into that) as we see Brazil's Taffarell do with pks. This way he (Akpeyi) prevents the ball from being played above the wall for a goal as we see often (see also Nigeria's FK) but then failed to get the spot quicker than the ball. IMHO, it is a gamble that failed and considering the distance for the FK I do not label that soft at all.

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That I disagree. His bravely actually prevented Nigeria being further behind in that half when the team was virtually overrun for a while. I am not sure which one is a soft goal -- the cross that was connected deep inside the box or the FK that was taken from the edge of the box? IMHO, none of those could be considered soft by any stretch.

The free kick with the poorly-positioned wall that he stood behind and thus allowed the free-kick taker to pass the ball into the net with ease. That one.


Ok. IMHO, he invited the ball to be played in the open space (an attempt to suck the kicker into that) as we see Brazil's Taffarell do with pks. This way he (Akpeyi) prevents the ball from being played above the wall for a goal as we see often (see also Nigeria's FK) but then failed to get the spot quicker than the ball. IMHO, it is a gamble that failed and considering the distance for the FK I do not label that soft at all.


But given the distance why would he need to gamble in the first place? If they play it over the wall he has wayyyy more than enough time to move his feet and get himself over there to make a save. The gamble tells me he is not confident in his own footwork and speed to get across to the ball if it is played over the wall...

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Enugu II wrote:
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That I disagree. His bravely actually prevented Nigeria being further behind in that half when the team was virtually overrun for a while. I am not sure which one is a soft goal -- the cross that was connected deep inside the box or the FK that was taken from the edge of the box? IMHO, none of those could be considered soft by any stretch.

The free kick with the poorly-positioned wall that he stood behind and thus allowed the free-kick taker to pass the ball into the net with ease. That one.


Ok. IMHO, he invited the ball to be played in the open space (an attempt to suck the kicker into that) as we see Brazil's Taffarell do with pks. This way he (Akpeyi) prevents the ball from being played above the wall for a goal as we see often (see also Nigeria's FK) but then failed to get the spot quicker than the ball. IMHO, it is a gamble that failed and considering the distance for the FK I do not label that soft at all.


:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: Prof, go and sleep abeg. In the morning, you will laugh at yourself. Let's not get into the paralysis by analysis mindset. No point trying to make an academic exercise of defending the indefensible.

12 year old GKs know that you position the wall to cover most of the path to goal and you maintain sight of the ball (mostly possible) and cover the near side or narrower path to goal. That is why the good FK takers have to bend the ball over the wall. That was what Nacho did in that same game.

According to you, Akpeyi ignores this basic principle and tries to play voodoo and mind games with the FK taker. Well, its not working. Against Argentina, it didn't help that he conspired with himself to create the FK in the first place, but due to his FK methods (hiding behind the wall and peeping), all the Argie player had to do was pass the ball into the net. No special FK skills needed.


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Enugu II wrote:
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That I disagree. His bravely actually prevented Nigeria being further behind in that half when the team was virtually overrun for a while. I am not sure which one is a soft goal -- the cross that was connected deep inside the box or the FK that was taken from the edge of the box? IMHO, none of those could be considered soft by any stretch.
The free kick with the poorly-positioned wall that he stood behind and thus allowed the free-kick taker to pass the ball into the net with ease. That one.

Ok. IMHO, he invited the ball to be played in the open space (an attempt to suck the kicker into that) as we see Brazil's Taffarell do with pks. This way he (Akpeyi) prevents the ball from being played above the wall for a goal as we see often (see also Nigeria's FK) but then failed to get the spot quicker than the ball. IMHO, it is a gamble that failed and considering the distance for the FK I do not label that soft at all.

Bros, you are NOT helping Akpeyi here...
Because if that was his mindset, it was obtuse (given his ability).

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The YeyeMan wrote:
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If a player is hated in CE then every mistake must be noted. It does not matter that others may make a similar error.

What matters is that he's a poor GK.

Yeyeman,

I do not rate him but sometimes I feel that his past is used to judge his performance in every game. That is just unacceptable, IMHO, if we are to be fair in evaluating performance. Go back and re-watch the Argentina game. The guy was not as bad as claimed here in CE beyond his mental error that led to the FK. Yet all you read on CE is that he was so poor in that game.

My fren, generally you might be right. But his past is used to judge his ability. The present is used to evaluate his current level of performance. That free kick in the video is a poor goal for a GK to concede.

KPOM! :clap:

I have had this same line of discussion with EII so many times, I have given up on him.

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The unfortunate thing is that you can’t coach these errors out of him at this stage of his career development. All goalkeepers make errors but this has to be the exception rather than the norm. Why bother with a defender who is guaranteed to give you 89 mins of brilliant play but always has a momentary lapse that will more than often lead to you conceding a goal?

The simple fact of the matter is that Akpeyi in his current form is not good enough. His confidence has taken a battering and mentally he isn’t strong enough to fight his way back. I’m sure the pressure got to him before the Cameroon game and his injury gave him a convenient way out. You just need to see his face every time the camera pans on him. He always looks petrified and uncertain. He lacks that aura and commanding presence most world class goalies have.

Rohr hasn’t sent his goalkeeping coach to Spain for the fun of it. IMHO We are simply flogging a dead horse here.


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Akpeyi is back on the bench at his SA club. There is no way this guy is better than an Enyeama with one hand.

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