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PostPosted: Sun Mar 04, 2018 11:44 pm 
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Iwobi was very good and played just as good as any Arsenal player on the field in that game. He was involved with the only goal Arsenal scored and never lost balls so I am not sure what else he is supposed to do given how the entire has been playing.

On the contrary, I think Iwobi has actually played his way to a regular starter in the SE like Victor Moses and Mikel, as opposed to when he was coming off the bench. As far as I am concerned the only confirmed starters in the SE today are Mikel, Ndidi, Victor Moses, Iwobi, Balogun and Ekong!

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Iwobi was very good and played just as good as any Arsenal player on the field in that game. He was involved with the only goal Arsenal scored and never lost balls so I am not sure what else he is supposed to do given how the entire has been playing.

On the contrary, I think Iwobi has actually played his way to a regular starter in the SE like Victor Moses and Mikel, as opposed to when he was coming off the bench. As far as I am concerned the only confirmed starters in the SE today are Mikel, Ndidi, Victor Moses, Iwobi, Balogun and Ekong!


That’s just not true, he lost two balls in dangerous areas, one each half, first half he was double teamed in his half hesistated to play a quick pass then had to rush to clear but his clearance was blocked and they countered into the box and luckily Cech saved a low shot (see video) There was a second one in the second half when Arseanal was pushing for an equalizer and everybody was up he lost the ball you can see the counter at minute 2:16 of the video, after which he was promptly subbed.


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Iwobi was very good and played just as good as any Arsenal player on the field in that game. He was involved with the only goal Arsenal scored and never lost balls so I am not sure what else he is supposed to do given how the entire has been playing.

On the contrary, I think Iwobi has actually played his way to a regular starter in the SE like Victor Moses and Mikel, as opposed to when he was coming off the bench. As far as I am concerned the only confirmed starters in the SE today are Mikel, Ndidi, Victor Moses, Iwobi, Balogun and Ekong!


That’s just not true, he lost two balls in dangerous areas, one each half, first half he was double teamed in his half hesistated to play a quick pass then had to rush to clear but his clearance was blocked and they countered into the box and luckily Cech saved a low shot (see video) There was a second one in the second half when Arseanal was pushing for an equalizer and everybody was up he lost the ball you can see the counter at minute 2:16 of the video, after which he was promptly subbed.



Do you have minute by minute analysis of the other 10 players performance also?

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Iwobi was very good and played just as good as any Arsenal player on the field in that game. He was involved with the only goal Arsenal scored and never lost balls so I am not sure what else he is supposed to do given how the entire has been playing.

On the contrary, I think Iwobi has actually played his way to a regular starter in the SE like Victor Moses and Mikel, as opposed to when he was coming off the bench. As far as I am concerned the only confirmed starters in the SE today are Mikel, Ndidi, Victor Moses, Iwobi, Balogun and Ekong!


That’s just not true, he lost two balls in dangerous areas, one each half, first half he was double teamed in his half hesistated to play a quick pass then had to rush to clear but his clearance was blocked and they countered into the box and luckily Cech saved a low shot (see video) There was a second one in the second half when Arseanal was pushing for an equalizer and everybody was up he lost the ball you can see the counter at minute 2:16 of the video, after which he was promptly subbed.



Do you have minute by minute analysis of the other 10 players performance also?


Any of the other ones eligible for SE? If no SE was playing I wouldn’t bother watching such a useless team as Arseanal...

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maceo4 wrote:
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What does he do really well? What skills has he mastered? If you watched him as a neutral football fan, how would you describe his strengths?
What do fans/players/coaches of other teams say/fear most about him?
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He has a great first touch, good movement, and plays good one touch footie, but outside of that he doesn't have a great shot, not really a good dribbler. He's a decent passer and crosser of the ball and has a good footballing brain. I hear he's also eager to learn which might endear him to the coach, but at this point he's probably a mid to lower table player so I pray Arsene stays so he can continue working on him, next coach might get rid of him. That said, at the level of SE he's one of our better players and will gets lots of chances at the world cup.


God forbid bad thing! Maceo4, why would you want to wish that kind of thing to your country peopus?

Its been years since Wenger has successfully developed and nutured young talent. Where is Theo Walcott? Abeg let Wenger just sunset and let this boy stand on his 2 feet with a better coach, or move on to another league if necessary,


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What does he do really well? What skills has he mastered? If you watched him as a neutral football fan, how would you describe his strengths?
What do fans/players/coaches of other teams say/fear most about him?
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He has a great first touch, good movement, and plays good one touch footie, but outside of that he doesn't have a great shot, not really a good dribbler. He's a decent passer and crosser of the ball and has a good footballing brain. I hear he's also eager to learn which might endear him to the coach, but at this point he's probably a mid to lower table player so I pray Arsene stays so he can continue working on him, next coach might get rid of him. That said, at the level of SE he's one of our better players and will gets lots of chances at the world cup.


God forbid bad thing! Maceo4, why would you want to wish that kind of thing to your country peopus?

Its been years since Wenger has successfully developed and nutured young talent. Where is Theo Walcott? Abeg let Wenger just sunset and let this boy stand on his 2 feet with a better coach, or move on to another league if necessary,


The grass always looks greener...look at what Kelechi is going through now after the patient manager that gave him his chance was replaced.

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Guys something isn't right with our boy Iwobi, part of me feels his confidence has been shattered to a point where he might need someone of good authority like JJ to give him a pep talk. I watched him today against Brighton, and my God he was shocking, I know the entire Arsenal team is in shambles at the moment, but there has been absolutely no redeeming quality in Iwobis game for quite some time now... Arsenal fans pretty much conclude he isnt just good enough, but I boldly denounce that cause the Iwobi that turned up for Nigeria when it mattered most can't just be dismissed as not good enough, that Nigeria is in the world cup is because of his crucial goal against a Zambian team that had us on the back rope of fear. I think he needs a loan move from the toxic system in Arsenal and rediscover his form, could care less if he goes to a championship level team, we really need him in top gear form cause he is one of our most important players right now as much as we won't admit it... I'm surprised nobody talks about our players situation, all I see here are threads about EPL teams that are inconsequential to the growth of Nigerian football, just sad.


I don’t expect to be popular for saying this, but Iwobi has been poor for months now. Even when Arsenal were playing well earlier in the season....


Very true, but hopefully he’s a different player for the SE. Cuz his uselessness at club level is almost unbearable to watch, and worst thing in this game he added a bad habit of losing the ball in dangerous areas. He better not try that nonsense with SE. I’ve said it before, the likes of Iwobi would not even sniff the bench of any top 4 team in any of the top leagues. Y’all keep praying for Arsene to be out but our boy will likely suffer the most if that happens as Wenger has taken a liking to him.


Arsenal were set up very wrong before he lost the ball.

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Iwobi plays for a useless club....and he is vastly overrated.


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I told Waffi this a few weeks ago and he gave a passionate and myopic defence of Iwobi's performances - saying Arsenal are singling him because he chose Nigeria over England. :roll:

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Arsenal as a whole are poor so a younger player like Iwobi is likely to be affected.

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Nothing is wrong with the poor boy. I just hope Arsenal can sort out their nonsense before it drags in the poor poor and sap his confidence. The rubbish going on in that club will affect all the players one way or the other. I hope Rohr is in touch with him to encourage him to keep his chin up before that yeye club drag our boy down.


Thank you my chief. Nothing more to add. :agree:

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Weed smokers full this board o.



Weed doesn’t make u write rubbish like that, dude is on crack!


Maybe I follow am dey smoke the crack. But his game is just like the rest of his teammates, uninspiring. The one and half games I watched I was, what is going on with the dude. Not close to being the same player when he was a fringe player.

That being said, hard for me to point to any Arsenal player that is playing well.

Even their new additions seem to be a shadow of themselves.

But then again, they say it is not the manager.


For me, it’s more about staying football fit first, then anything else na bonus. Moses at CFC has been subpar compared to last season but I know that for the SE he’s got a different role, more freedom and more responsibility. I’m not sweating. Just don’t get injured na my yawa.

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Weed doesn’t make u write rubbish like that, dude is on crack!


Maybe I follow am dey smoke the crack. But his game is just like the rest of his teammates, uninspiring. The one and half games I watched I was, what is going on with the dude. Not close to being the same player when he was a fringe player.

That being said, hard for me to point to any Arsenal player that is playing well.

Even their new additions seem to be a shadow of themselves.

But then again, they say it is not the manager.


For me, it’s more about staying football fit first, then anything else na bonus. Moses at CFC has been subpar compared to last season but I know that for the SE he’s got a different role, more freedom and more responsibility. I’m not sweating. Just don’t get injured na my yawa.

It's important he (and all of our players) get games under their belt and I'd take that over them being stuck on the bench. Ideally they'd also be in good form running up the tournament.

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Basically, his money skills need serious improvement.
Like every thing in life. If you want to compete at a high level, work on your money skills.
Pick 3 of them, work on them day and night until you master them. then consistently try to use them in your job setting (on the pitch).
At times he shows flashes of dribbling skills. But, once in a blue moon, honestly.
I don't remember anything he did today that would separate him from the other players. Did he shoot? did he take on his man? did he create for other?
The fact that Arsenal is in shambles today should represent an opportunity for him to differentiate himself and shine. That is how he should think.
Other players are refusing to perform. Competition (Walcott, The Ox) has been offloaded. The path is clear. This is his time. He needs to take it.
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What does he do really well? What skills has he mastered? If you watched him as a neutral football fan, how would you describe his strengths?
What do fans/players/coaches of other teams say/fear most about him?
Bepanda

He has a great first touch, good movement, and plays good one touch footie, but outside of that he doesn't have a great shot, not really a good dribbler. He's a decent passer and crosser of the ball and has a good footballing brain. I hear he's also eager to learn which might endear him to the coach, but at this point he's probably a mid to lower table player so I pray Arsene stays so he can continue working on him, next coach might get rid of him. That said, at the level of SE he's one of our better players and will gets lots of chances at the world cup.


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The boy is doing ok,he even have issue with Wenger as Wenger don't want him do things he wanted.
Please no Arsenal player is playing better than him,if likes of Ozil that has been worst than Iwobi and guarantee starter for Germany ,Iwobi if he was white will even be the one telling voach who to play along him.
The boy is fine,as for those who want Wenger stay I hope you all see how his foolish ways can affect any good players
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Chief Ogbunigwe wrote:
oloye wrote:
Nothing is wrong with the poor boy. I just hope Arsenal can sort out their nonsense before it drags in the poor poor and sap his confidence. The rubbish going on in that club will affect all the players one way or the other. I hope Rohr is in touch with him to encourage him to keep his chin up before that yeye club drag our boy down.

Wenger is destroying the poor boy. Thank God Ndidi didn't join Arsenal like Oga Plat dem wanted him to do...Wenger would have converted him to an even poorer Coq.

Wenger is now a dream killer. Auba/Lacca/Kolasinac look like MLS players now. The man is well past it but he will not leave!


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Nothing is wrong with the poor boy. I just hope Arsenal can sort out their nonsense before it drags in the poor poor and sap his confidence. The rubbish going on in that club will affect all the players one way or the other. I hope Rohr is in touch with him to encourage him to keep his chin up before that yeye club drag our boy down.

Wenger is destroying the poor boy. Thank God Ndidi didn't join Arsenal like Oga Plat dem wanted him to do...Wenger would have converted him to an even poorer Coq.

Wenger is now a dream killer. Auba/Lacca/Kolasinac look like MLS players now. The man is well past it but he will not leave!


I suspect that is one of the reasons the man doesn't like buying big name players.

If he can turn dem to $#% it says a lot about him. The LMAO (Laccazette, Mkthitarian, Aubameyang, Ozil) crew are looking very ordinary.

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This is a player that NEEDS the international break. Along with VicMo.

They are different beasts in the GWG.


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Iwobi is being played out of position ( both at Arsenal and for SE) as a wide player .... he is a #10. While he might have flashes on the wing he is still very inconsistent because it’s not a position that fits him the best ... if he can’t get that at Arsenal he needs to go somewhere else where his game can flourish at that position

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Iwobi is being played out of position ( both at Arsenal and for SE) as a wide player .... he is a #10. While he might have flashes on the wing he is still very inconsistent because it’s not a position that fits him the best ... if he can’t get that at Arsenal he needs to go somewhere else where his game can flourish at that position



:clap: :clap: I like the way our players positions evolve based on their performance. When Kanu's Juju man was making him score from every tight corner on the pitch for Arsenal he was a top striker. When he refused to pay his juju man and the goals dried out he became a support striker.

When Iwobi was scoring back and forth for Arsenal and Nigeria he was played in the right position, now he is played out of position.

Ideye was once a striker, now he is a holding forward at Malaga ...i.e holding for another striker to come and score. :thumbs: :thumbs:

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Iwobi is being played out of position ( both at Arsenal and for SE) as a wide player .... he is a #10. While he might have flashes on the wing he is still very inconsistent because it’s not a position that fits him the best ... if he can’t get that at Arsenal he needs to go somewhere else where his game can flourish at that position



:clap: :clap: I like the way our players positions evolve based on their performance. When Kanu's Juju man was making him score from every tight corner on the pitch for Arsenal he was a top striker. When he refused to pay his juju man and the goals dried out he became a support striker.

When Iwobi was scoring back and forth for Arsenal and Nigeria he was played in the right position, now he is played out of position.

Ideye was once a striker, now he is a holding forward at Malaga ...i.e holding for another striker to come and score. :thumbs: :thumbs:

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Iwobi is being played out of position ( both at Arsenal and for SE) as a wide player .... he is a #10. While he might have flashes on the wing he is still very inconsistent because it’s not a position that fits him the best ... if he can’t get that at Arsenal he needs to go somewhere else where his game can flourish at that position



:clap: :clap: I like the way our players positions evolve based on their performance. When Kanu's Juju man was making him score from every tight corner on the pitch for Arsenal he was a top striker. When he refused to pay his juju man and the goals dried out he became a support striker.

When Iwobi was scoring back and forth for Arsenal and Nigeria he was played in the right position, now he is played out of position.

Ideye was once a striker, now he is a holding forward at Malaga ...i.e holding for another striker to come and score. :thumbs: :thumbs:



Bushman :taunt: :taunt: the travails of Victor Moses should be a clear example of how good players struggle when used wrongly by coaches .... I remember both Keshi (bless his soul ) and Brendan Rogers both decided to play Vic Mo in the hole behind the striker .

The poor Lad seemed destined for the Qatari or Indian League ... but when Conte decided to put a round peg in a round hole albeit with more defensive duties look how far VM has been able to bounce back. Many non Nigerian Chelshyt fans are shocked at his ability.

So if I’m AI’s family and agent, the sooner they find a club and a decent coach willing to use him in the proper way the better ... his football life should begin and end at Arsenal.

He has far too much talent and ability to be playing the way he currently is

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anikulapo wrote:
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Iwobi is being played out of position ( both at Arsenal and for SE) as a wide player .... he is a #10. While he might have flashes on the wing he is still very inconsistent because it’s not a position that fits him the best ... if he can’t get that at Arsenal he needs to go somewhere else where his game can flourish at that position



:clap: :clap: I like the way our players positions evolve based on their performance. When Kanu's Juju man was making him score from every tight corner on the pitch for Arsenal he was a top striker. When he refused to pay his juju man and the goals dried out he became a support striker.

When Iwobi was scoring back and forth for Arsenal and Nigeria he was played in the right position, now he is played out of position.

Ideye was once a striker, now he is a holding forward at Malaga ...i.e holding for another striker to come and score. :thumbs: :thumbs:



Bushman :taunt: :taunt: the travails of Victor Moses should be a clear example of how good players struggle when used wrongly by coaches .... I remember both Keshi (bless his soul ) and Brendan Rogers both decided to play Vic Mo in the hole behind the striker .

The poor Lad seemed destined for the Qatari or Indian League ... but when Conte decided to put a round peg in a round hole albeit with more defensive duties look how far VM has been able to bounce back. Many non Nigerian Chelshyt fans are shocked at his ability.

So if I’m AI’s family and agent, the sooner they find a club and a decent coach willing to use him in the proper way the better ... his football life should begin and end at Arsenal.

He has far too much talent and ability to be playing the way he currently is



All he needs to do is follow the trail of the Ox. :winking:

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